The “Seventeen intelligence agencies” Lie
Clinton's "17 US intelligence agencies" may be the biggest, most immediately disprovable wopper ever intentionally made during a debate.
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) October 20, 2016
Hillary Clinton's "17 US intelligence agencies" include:
*Coast Guard
*DEA
*Navel Intelligence
*Department of Energy
*Air Force recon— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) October 20, 2016
We've all ran into the “Seventeen intelligence agencies” Lie online. It's been repeated ad nauseam.
The other day the NY Times admitted it was all BS.
Nevertheless, many high-profile pro-establishment outlets like Politifact and USA Today found Clinton’s claims to be 100 percent true on the grounds that James Clapper, then-Director of National Intelligence and notorious Russophobic racist, “speaks on behalf of” all 17 intelligence agencies. To this day Politifact stands by its false claim on the basis of that same spurious assertion.
It turns out, however, that in addition to Clapper’s office there were only three intelligence agencies involved in that assessment, not 17, and that the conclusions were drawn not by the actual agencies in full, but by a mere two dozen loyalists from those agencies hand-selected by Russophobic eugenicist Clapper himself. The great Robert Parry notes in his Consortium News article about this point, “as any intelligence expert will tell you, if you ‘hand-pick’ the analysts, you are really hand-picking the conclusion. For instance, if the analysts were known to be hard-liners on Russia or supporters of Hillary Clinton, they could be expected to deliver the one-sided report that they did.”
As reported by Parry, we have known about these facts since they emerged from Clapper’s racist face hole on May 8, and they were confirmed by former CIA Director John Brennan on May 23.
Russiagate was always a scandal in search of a crime.
As I pointed out the other day, Russiagate is first and foremost about making wild claims that often prove to be either untrue, unproven, or based on very thin amounts of questionable evidence.
No matter how you cut it, Russiagate isn't working as a political strategy.
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It took more than a month and a half ...
... more of repeating the lie before they have been backed-into admitting its falsity.
There was just some shameless Clintonite on Crosstalk spouting it as well. Fortunately Lionel was there to point it out.
They use their msm megaphone to scream
false narratives all over the US headlines for weeks on end, and then quietly retract, or qualify their previous assertions on page six.
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Politifake
Yet another credibility casualty of the 2016 election.
Makes him sound like Joseph Mengele.
Compare and contrast.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
The 17 canard will live on for years.
I was watching a debate on TheRealNews just posted with ex-Clinton official Curry. He repeated it, and also repeated that Putin messed with the French election. Both were corrected by a guy named Taylor but Curry just went on with his mindless party talking points.
Clapper racist?
Is that in regard to Slavic people, as like the Ukraine nazis, or what the word means usually in US discourse?
It is a fact that all the main organs of state security have been guided by racists since their inception. Dulles hiding from. FDR the Nazi extermination of Jews; JE Hoover, etc.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
Clapper has made comments
about how Russians in general are "predisposed" toward acts of evil.
“Liberal“ Supreme Court Chief Justice Earl Warren
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/30/opinion/le-saturday30.S1
https://www.history.com/news/george-takei
Executive Order 9066
http://www.fear.org/RMillerJ-A.html
Germans of the 1968 generation confronted their parents and grandparents and rebelled in ways that profoundly changed post-war West German society — how many Californians ever asked, “Hey, dad, mom, grandma, grandpa, did our family profit from putting the ‘Japs’ in camps? How? You guys get any good bargains on their stuff?”
Edited to add:
Oh, sorry, gjohnsit, I didn’t mean to go off on a tangent, none of this is directed at you. It’s just that whenever people say nowadays, “{Bad thing X} is not inherent with {ethnic group Y}, it’s kind of Nazi-ish to think so,” sometimes something in me wants to say, “Oh, how awfully nice of you to notice. I seem to recall you were quite on the other side of that issue in 1942.”
!7 intelligence agencies all agree
that the earth is flat, i know this because 17 intelligence agencies said so. Are you going to argue with the conclusions of 17 intelligence agencies?
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
"Some" experts say...
Hey, the "some" experts say _______ defense has been strong enough for everything from climate change deniers to creationists trying to take over the classroom. At least 17 is an actual number...
/s
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
McCarthyite tactics never get old.
The actual number doesn't matter. It's the quantifying of the bullshit that drives the con.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Intelligence? These outfits are in the business
of collecting and analyzing information, but that doesn't automatically make them intelligent. They might be able to collect all the information in the world, but what have they been doing with it? Much of the time, it would seem they've been busy fomenting revolutions, promoting criminality, and overthrowing a number of governments. I'm not sure that any of this activity has demonstrated a high degree of intelligence.
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Most of it is used for manipulating foreign entities and
rationalizing subsequent overt/covert operations. It's all about control and little to do with 'truth'.
The CIA has been doing its thing
for seventy years now, with the full support of the US government. Might one not expect a certain amount of retrospective self-examination to be in order? Here's the gold standard, IMO:
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:16-20King James Version (KJV)
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Once again the Democrats are wasting their time
I don't know where they intended to go with this. There is no "where" there. It has no possibility of success. Russia did not alter the results of the election and Trump is not in collusion with the Russians to undermine the security of the US. The Democrats are truly a bunch of dip-shits. Meanwhile, Trump has gotten himself elected on polices that are truly worthless and harmful to the country and the world, and ironically his only good policy is to get along with Russia. Where is the principled opposition to Trump's worst policies? Oh yeah, busy beating the Russia is evil drum. This IS how he got elected.
During the campaign, Hillary heard Trump say that he wanted to get along with Russia. She immediately began to salivate, uncontrollably. She shook at times and stared uncontrollably into space with her mouth wide open. She even fell off of her feet in the excitement. This was the end of Trump! She would be POTUS. Any aspirant to the office of the President of the United States of America must be a raging, war-hawk maniac with blood running down their jowls and a cackle in their voice or no one will vote for them. Didn't Trump know that? She decided to use "soft on Russia" as her biggest issue. The mainstream media then, in their sycophant response, gave up all pretense of journalistic integrity and reported these ridiculous lies without any research. All bow to the mighty Clinton creature. I can't even imagine the disappointment in Clinton circles at not finding important jobs in DC as part of the spoils of being a good Clinton soldier.
I fear that the evil one gets stronger by the week.
Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.
I'm pretty sure...
I'm pretty sure there's a ring somewhere that we can throw into a lava flow and zap, she disappears.
Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.
Even though a whole generation has passed since “Harry Potter,”
in recent weeks I’ve been reading the books again for the inspiration and imagery of the young and innocent defeating ancient, organized evil.
I’m sure Tom Riddle / Voldemort in his manipulative hubris always thought of himself as “pragmatic” and “the only adult in the room.”
Thank you
for saying this about Trump:
You describe it very well.
Soon as Trump says "Let's get along with Russia", Hillary starts salivating uncontrollably. She's like my dog when he's watching me prepare his dinner, drooling like a water faucet all over the floor. It's purely a conditioned response, he can't help it -- and neither can she.
But what's really weird is how the MSM all jumped on that bandwagon. Like a single organism! I mean, unanimously declaring Russia to be Public Enemy #1 all of a sudden, without any evidence to speak of. Creepy-weird for sure.
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I keep saying to them
If you are going to make extraordinary claims then you better have solid proof. You can only howl wolf so many times until the next real wolf along actually eats you.
There is a credibility crisis across the internet
Few agree on what the facts are anymore. It's strange to observe, and incredibly dangerous.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
@LaFeminista
Or defecates on your newspaper...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Western MSM just doing what they have been doing for decades
- LIE and misrepresent by twisting the truth.
Pretty damn fucking accurate
That guy is funny.
It was obviously horse puckey from the start
It was simply Hillary Clinton cynically saying something she knew was false, but would be believed by her gullible marks and eager believers. It was obvious horseshit the very first time she said it.
Each of those agencies has its own defined area of responsibilities, and it's laughable to claim that monitoring US elections would be within the purview of all 17.
I like the way grrrl reporter, Caity Johnstone tells it:
June 2017? So when did the lie start? According to Johnstone, Hillary Clinton made that baseless assertion in a debate back in October 2016. But ever since, pundits and establishment loyalists have been regurgitating the ridiculous lie nonstop.
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/new-york-times-forced-to-retract-long...
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Somehow, "17 intelligence agencies" needs to make its way into
common parlance as slang for "(what an) outrageous whopper"
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Sure. That's what you and the 17 intelligence agencies say.
Heh, love it.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
oops, dupe, or, at least that's
what the 17 intelligence agencies say.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Maybe the "17 agencies" can hire Joe Isuzu
"Trust me. You have 17 intelligence agencies word on it!"
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