From that dying platform...
Seriously... The Little Napoleon Webmaster (Kos) has committed webmaster suicide not understanding that we would move on with our revolution without him, when he walked that NeoLiberal plank, closing the door on our progressive values of the once great party of FDR...
Just let the GOS (Great Orange Stain) die its undignified death, we don't have to pander to the remaining ring around the bathtub...

Just look how far the GOS has fallen, it is now in the column directly across from those it once ran with such as "The Onion" & The Daily Caller...

If they choose not to cross publish here or on Reddit, insisting that we visit a diseased platform to read their material, where our comments are subjected to rudeness, and censorship, then so be it...
They are publishing to an unappreciative audience, and I don't have to be there...

I rec other Bernie posts I see.

Many folks don't seem to be leaving TOP. If I have something I want to share with them, I'll do a post there, like the fundraiser Last week.

I'm going to write a post here soon about the Green Party. People keep talking about creating a new party and there is one with 20 years experience and elected officials in some places.

I still am with the Dem Party, but if I left, I would be a Green.

No one is creating a third party here. Besides there is a party far to the left of the Dems, the Green Party.

Kool-Aid is a known brand and more popular.

Anyone remember Wylers? It was the off brand, a tad cheaper, not as good, and most of the flavors had an unpleasant aftertaste.

It seems like Daily Kos wanted to be a major brand with a good flavor, but the reality is something else entirely.

Koswylers

It may not flow as well as a word/phrase but it seems a bit more fitting overall.

and I can see why people don't want to go there any more.

But I am glad that there are some brave souls who still promote and defend Bernie over there.

has to be coordinated with the rise of c99% if anything good is to come of it.

Kos threw us and his blog under the bus back in 08. He's just more obnoxious about it now than he was before. If anyone on dailykos is a paid shill for the Democratic Party it is Kos. This time we were ready for him. In c99 we really have an option to his hell hole - something he never expected. Have you ever looked at his blog's demographics? White, male, 50+, grad degree, 100K plus, and no kids. Why do I want to go there to be lectured, bullied and abused by this privileged bunch of jerks? I can't decide if the people who insist on staying there are heroes or masochists. So I waffle between not going and going there to support them. There is no doubt dailykos can wreck anyone's mood and raise their blood pressure.

Another point. Gjohnsit posts his stuff here first. OPOL posts his stuff here sometimes. LD and Swern never. When you bring Joe's stories over from EB do you link them here? Maybe if you didn't spend so much time at dkos, you'd have more time to participate here. I don't mean to give you a hard time Don, but it wouldn't be me if I didn't speak the truth. I know you mean well, but.... Johnny has put a ton of effort into building this blog - all of it unpaid. Progdog is now volunteering his time to help Johnny. People are donating money to this site to make it a better home - not to play second fiddle to dailykos.

Unlike dkos, we don't demand loyalty oaths to anyone or anything. Those who want to go back there will for whatever reason. I have deleted all of my emails. I am in the process of deleting my diaries. I log out when I am not there. When I am there and look at the front page, most often I click on nothing. The place is predictable. "Your momma wears combat boots. No your mother wears combat boots." I saw all the tripe about "wooing" Bernie voters. Did somebody have a lovers quarrel? That site has the maturity of a 12 year old and the intelligence of a turnip.

Just saying.

someone goes and reads something at dailykos or not.

I go there to scan what has been published. My couple of clicks will make a difference to "make dailykos collapse"? Frankly, I can't believe it and doubt it.

People have created groups and friendships over there in real life, not only in virtual groups. Why would one trash that? I never have liked what kos wrote. That didn't influence me to not read on dailykos what other people wrote though.

It's a fact that people need to communicate, over there as well as here. That one can realize that the amount of time spent on communicating without being able to know with whom one converses is problematic, because it's unnatural to judge people without being able to use all your six five senses. I see a mental health problem developing easily out of that. But that's the same everywhere, there and here.

I wouldn't say I go over there to "my daily dose of fun and teasing" though. I really don't think that there is much fun over there, aside from some groups, and teasing is what can hurt people in this kind of setting. So, it's may be nice to avoid it a little. But then, whatever, a little teasing, if it's understood, can be fun and is human.

Nobody can tell me what to read and what not. Nobody can try to influence whom I trust and do not trust in online conversations of strangers and nobody can get any loyalty pledge from me. I am not used from my upbringing to have to "make pledges" other than not to lie. Therefore I am inclined to see in pledges more the lies they include than the honesty some might put into them.

I have so many difficulties to understand libertarian-ism, liberal-ism, progressisv-ism and all that. Snarks, sarcasm, teasing is adding to the obfuscation. It gets less transparent for me. I am tired of it, no matter where I encounter it online.

If someone deducts from me going over to dailykos to read something over there, that it means I support the Democratic establishment of the party, or Hillary Clinton, or President Obama or anyone for that matter, is really ... well... I don't have a good word here ... but I don't like if people conclude something like that, don't like it at all.

I don't know anymore how to support a good essay from dailykos. if it's not published over here, then I can't twitter it as a sign of support. If I twitter it from there (which I can despite being banned), I am a supporter of dailykos ... Oh well, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. You really expect me on the long run to care about it?

Of course I like almost all collections of something, the environmental collection of articles of MB, the BNR, I read for a while Black Kos. And here I came for the EB and was curious what this site is all about. I still can't bash a writer as a person, just because I don't like their personal attitudes, if on the other hand they write something that is worthwhile reading because of the historical facts etc.

So, Don, I like your comments and links a lot and go over there to read them. I like bobswern and dallasdoc and some others writers over there. I understand your intentions of your essay and have nothing against it.

It's just a problem for me to develop an archive of my own. I wished I had started that from the beginning in 2004, when I ran into dailykos. Same here.

I liked to be a little church mouse in Joe Shikspack's archives ... too bad I didn't learn it from the beginning and had to tend other archives, which were not online, but physcial ones on tapes etc.

List, along with other authors' posts, I think there are a lot of lurkers over there who do have open minds. Those posts are being read and rec'd. There may be a lot of quiet people who are reading and learning.

My guess is that a lot of those people stay out of the comment sections and many of them may not know where else they can go. The people who continue to post over there may be reaching some of the silent folks.

I seldom go over there now. When I do, I rec everything I see that deserves one and leave. I cannot handle reading comments anymore.

There are many, many ads now and that site is slow compared to anyplace else I visit.

It's takes me to a place that is unhealthy. I do go back occasionally mainly if someone here links to GOS. The last time I went there kos was saying Bernie was a violent bad man who was leading his supporters astray. Why should I subject my self to such toxicity. It's a cesspool. It's not just kos it's the ugly mind set of the whole place. Your posts are good and you seem able to not get caught up in nasty negativity and vicious authoritarianism. I learn a lot reading you.

Why go to a site that demands you not damage the scared Democratic party or the thugs pols that have a D after their name. It's like a church or a cult where you must hate the Republicans and assume a totally false world view. It's freaking political blog and a anti-democratic one at that. It does mirror the worst of the Democratic party faithful. A microcosm of the worst of our society.

I like bobswern's writing but see no point in going there to support anyone including Bernie. Sure there are still good people left but imo they ought to leave. What good does it do? It is like the corrupt anti-democratic Democratic party. I am no longer a Democrat. Over the years every liberal good writer has left, been banned or run off by the flying monkeys. They scream racist, sexist, purist, privileged, winger, hater if you refuse to accept their authoritarian hateful twisted view of reality.

It's not my place to tell people where to post or read. I don't like self censorship or propaganda that's why I'm here. I also feel that dkos is a huge mind sink and a distraction purposely directed at stopping any insurrection in the authoritarian rank and file Dem.sheeple. Fear, lies, hate and mock the other be they lefty purists or RWNJ.

It does freak me out when c99% starts drifting towards being the church of kos without Markos. Here I can either not read the essays that are kos centered or sya what I want in defense of a dkos free net. Like the Democratic party we would all be better off if they would fade away and become extinct. Fear and loathing does not move me as there is no lesser evil it the same evil. 'You ask why I don't live here, honey how come you don't move?'

I am also understanding of those who have different positions. I think we all process change in different ways and should be tolerant of individual choices. For now, I am going there although the enjoyment has stopped. I do so because you make buddies of sort over the years and I feel I should support kindred spirits while at the same time I am making the move to join new groups rather than go cold-turkey. It's nice to find familiar names away from there! I have also come to consider and care for those who work for kos who are against his policies. Meteor Blades has made it clear he is a Bernie supporter and Mark Summer confessed the same on the APR this morning. That must be brutal. I sense our task must be like organizing for labor. Some folks want to join but are constrained by personal reasons and cannot be in the forefront or the timing is bad for them. We each evolve at our on pace and will move when the time is right for us.