I can't believe this.

Submitted by tapu dali on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:03pm

Hillary is now going after the chimera known as

moderate, socially liberal Republicans

for donations, see Ask liberal Republicans for support

And turning the Democratic party farther right is, now to TOP, a GOOD thing?

Well, not surprising; Markos always a "liberal Republican" and so are most of the remaining FPs and diarists (except maybe for MB, who probably needs the job).

Sad.

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Submitted by Not Henry Kissinger on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:11pm
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What? All three of them?

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

Submitted by tapu dali on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:12pm
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A lot of business-oriented Republicans are fairly socially liberal. Much more so than the Trump squad at least.

I replied:

Good point, thanks.

And it’s a good thing that Democrats are looking to business-oriented Republicans for support.

I quite understand, gotta raise as much money as you can, and it doesn’t really matter where it’s coming from.

And of course these “business-oriented Republicans” will never be able to influence democratic policies.

Of course not.

For those who refuse to go to TOP.

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Submitted by tapu dali on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:26pm
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took my response literally [SMH}.

I knew Americans don't do irony.

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Submitted by TomP on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:29pm

Two Wall Street parties. Socially liberal and fuck the working class. The DLC dream comes to fruition.

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Submitted by tapu dali on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:52pm
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Are the Establishment Democrats hypocritically using certain socially liberal issues (you know what I mean) to divert people from real-world economic issues of poverty, income inequality, the 99% getting poorer every year by means of a "shiny object": "But look what we've done for ... x, y, and z demographic!"

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Submitted by Deja on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 7:09pm
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You nailed it, imho.

"Oh look, a squirrel" rather than, "historic, life-threatening flooding" and "hundreds of thousands of acres burning due to temps in the 90s in fucking early May, in fucking Canada of all places." Don't forget how much better the economy is now - with all those (minimum wage) jobs we've created. You won't hear them say it, but they're allowing us to eat cake.

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Submitted by progdog on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 7:11pm
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So much cheap food is addictive garbage.

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Submitted by Deja on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 7:50pm
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The FDA says it is, so it must be true!

OT: is that you in your icon photo? Are you a ginger too?

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Submitted by progdog on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 9:09pm
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Submitted by featheredsprite on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 7:12pm
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Anything to divert us from the real problem.

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Submitted by RichM on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 9:03pm

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Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?

Submitted by Wink on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 9:39pm
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Yes.

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Submitted by mjsmeme on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:33pm
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uninspiring unoriginal uncreative selfish humorless cranks whose MO swings from victimhood to viscious pitbull. Smile

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Submitted by mjsmeme on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:37pm
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how to to make those things happen.

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Submitted by progdog on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:42pm
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Hi mbeitchman! Our text editor automatically replaces certain textual smileys such as ;) with graphical representations. If you want to get around the automatic replacement and formatting, choose "Special Format" from the "Text Format" dropdown on the comment entry form.
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Submitted by mjsmeme on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:57pm
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Submitted by dennis1958 on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 7:00pm

http://www.caucus99percent.com/filter/tips#filter-smiley

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Submitted by mjsmeme on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 9:00pm
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not just on this site?

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Submitted by Oldest Son Of A... on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 11:58pm
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and others set up in the same manner...

If a site doesn't support it you can save them as an image and then use images on other sites...

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Submitted by ek hornbeck on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:16pm

it makes perfect sense. I waste no tears on MB, he not only had a choice, he had opportunities and ignored them. Bootstrap Bill sails with Davy Jones for a reason.

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Submitted by BlaBlaOligarchy on Wed, 01/30/2019 - 7:40am

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Submitted by Bollox Ref on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:40pm
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Clean up on Isle Hillary.

Oh, wait........... he's dead.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

Submitted by fugwb on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:45pm

over at TOP in January

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally here.
After the event, Trump declined to answer when asked by CNN to clarify his comments.
The GOP front-runner has repeatedly pointed to the loyalty of his supporters, many of whom tell reporters and pollsters that almost nothing could make them change their mind about voting for Trump in the presidential race.

hillbots and trumpsters. The only difference are the tee shirts and hats they wear...

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Submitted by BlaBlaOligarchy on Wed, 01/30/2019 - 7:40am

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Submitted by Timmethy2.0 on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 7:09pm

Towards the end of her show.

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Submitted by WindDancer13 on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 6:56pm
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I was rather surprised to see that, and I don't mean by a smidgen. I mean quite far left of her, so she sees no problem seeking the approval of those who are politically aligned with her (what we currently call Republicans).

As a good explanation of how we got to where we are today, this article offers some good analysis, including:

Ever since Bill Clinton’s election in 1992, Democrats have been touting their pragmatism and eagerness to work across the aisle with Republicans and those aligned with them, patterning their market-oriented neoliberalism more along the lines of Ronald Reagan than any Democratic predecessor, only to be relentlessly attacked by Republicans in return. Negative partisanship inhibits any Republican gestures toward compromise, rewards intransigence, and helps move the GOP to the right. But, over the long run, negative partisanship moves Democrats right as well, inhibiting criticism from the left on the ground that it “helps Republicans.” The fighting spirit critics exemplify is perceived as Republican-friendly as well. Such arguments preempt serious consideration of the substantive criticisms being made, further consolidating the Democrat’s rightward drift. We’re seeing this dynamic once again in how Sanders’ criticisms of Clinton are being dismissed, not just by her campaign, but by the broader establishment she represents. Thus, negative partisanship has helped shift the entire political spectrum to the right, while increasing the importance of fighting over that of actually governing effectively.[emphasis added]

"You've come a long way, baby"* does not apply to HRC as she has gone backwards. [*annoying but very popular phrase from the 70s used often in regard to the women's movement--but stemmed from a cigarette ad]

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Submitted by featheredsprite on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 7:17pm
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What's she spending it on? DNC and PACs are paying her expenses. And she isn't doing that much advertising that I can see. And most of her travel is from one fundraiser to another.

ETA:
Unless she's trying to replace some laundered funds somewhere.

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Submitted by fugwb on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 8:02pm

sure ain't clothes. Some of that shit she wears looks like it came out of the dumpster behind the walmart in Possum Fat Kentucky.
My guess is a lot goes for her personal upkeep, her entourage, private jets etc. It ain't cheap being a goldmam sachs girl...

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Submitted by Sunspots on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 9:10pm

Heavy gold that looks like 24-karat, big pearls, big stones.

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Submitted by neoconned on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 9:18pm

. . . from when she left the Walmart board. They gave her the employee discount.

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Submitted by mjsmeme on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 9:40pm
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Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 8:29pm
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Then some of the ones that she wears. Especially when they make her look like a Trekkie.
Does she wear anything else besides those God ugly pantsuits?
Oops, sexist comment. Shame on me.

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Submitted by mjsmeme on Sat, 05/07/2016 - 9:56pm
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reddit's kossacks4sanders a couple of weeks ago that could be viewed as an exercise in how to interpret what is being projected by the wearer and in turn such discussions could be deemed valuable in an anthropological / sociological sense. And then we get to rag on her 'style' without being sexist or being called catty. An especially interesting comment had to do with one of her outfits looking like the one worn by Captain Kangaroo. ;-D

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Submitted by Miss SPED on Sun, 05/08/2016 - 9:48am

On some CBS Sunday program, glimpsed it before I changed the channel...black pantsuit above and below, white panel from torso to mid thigh.
Anyone who can afford a twelve hundred dollar hair color and hair cut can afford a stylist to tell her that people look heavier on television, and wearing black-white-black on tv makes one resemble an ocean liner.
Not sexist, just the same reason I never wear white shoes.

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Submitted by on the cusp on Sun, 05/08/2016 - 12:01pm

on her attire, but it just isn't that difficult to look well-turned out. Some of her best friends are world-renown designers. Is she just that hard headed? Arrogant?
Those of us in professional and public jobs often have to do our best on WalMart budgets and resale shops.
"Clothes make the man" applies to women. Women who look silly in their attire just make it harder to be taken seriously.
I have now shown my pettiness, but if Bernie's rumpled suits and wispy hair make headlines, then her Chairman Mao jacket should get a mention.

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Submitted by mjsmeme on Sun, 05/08/2016 - 12:27pm
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Submitted by Deja on Sun, 05/08/2016 - 12:32pm
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I love this place!

Her clothes look very uncomfortable, hot, itchy. Jackie O, she ain't, that's for sure!

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Submitted by Oldest Son Of A... on Sun, 05/08/2016 - 12:26am
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Goes flying through into law if Hillary gets in...

Next question...
Will Hillary be speaking before or, after Sarah Palin at CPAC?

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Submitted by movie buff on Sun, 05/08/2016 - 11:52am
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TRUMP: 'Taxes for the rich will go up somewhat'

Washington (CNN) — Donald Trump says taxes on the wealthy could increase if he's elected president -- and that he personally wouldn't mind paying higher taxes.

But they know their money will be safe with Hillary.

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