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12/15 Open Thread - Bill of Rights Day

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Today is the Bill of Rights Day in the US. This phrase simply denotes the first ten amendments to the US Constitution. They were written to establish a fundamental baseline of freedoms of which that the government could not deprive the people, or so the authors thought. In reality, not so much. At the time of this writing I think that there are no governmental "time, place, and manner" restrictions applicable to this forum and/or what I intend to write.That could change overnight, of course as could the content based prohibitions that our government is so fond of, but here we go --

I couldn't decide between ten sub-rants and one gargantuan rant so finally decided on a single small rant. I'm pretty much just going to post the bill of rights in its entirety for everybody to re-familiarize themselves with and hopefully study, contemplate and consider. Among other things one should consider is what we nearly had and what we have lost and are further losing, daily, and perhaps what we can do about it singly and/or collectively. These rights, as enumerated and enunciated have been steadily evaporating a bit at a time through the creation of exceptions and interpretations.

Exceptions are things like freedom of speech not extending to "obscene" speech, even though those supportive of such a stupid restriction couldn't define "obscene" (because it is a garbage concept with a heavy stench of underlying religious dogma and no other reasonable basis). Interpretations are things like the infamous "Terry Stop" and the line of cases following from it that have completely eliminated the need for probable cause or any other objective basis for rousting people, rendering the fourth amendment largely inapplicable with respects to people afoot, motorists and their passengers, and, generally, anybody not inside their own domicile.

First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Second Amendment: A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Third Amendment: No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Fourth Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Fifth Amendment: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Sixth Amendment: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Seventh Amendment: In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Eighth Amendment: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Ninth Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Tenth Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

The First, Second, Fourth and Eighth amendments allegedly apply at the state level. The third and seventh do not apply at the state level. The fifth allegedly applies at the state level except for the right to an indictment by a grand jury. The sixth allegedly applies at the state level except for the right to have a jury from the district where the crime was committed. It has also been alleged that the bill of rights applies to the executive branch, but you can judge for yourself whether or not this is even remotely true in fact, as opposed to in theory.

It is perhaps relevant to note that the US has ratified but three of the nine core UN human rights treaties and only somewhere around five of the eighteen major international human rights instruments. Oh yes, we've also never ratified the Equal Rights Amendment. Just sayin'

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On this day in history:

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1256 – Mongol forces under Hulagu entered and dismantled the Nizari Ismaili (Assassin) stronghold at Alamut Castle

1270 – The Nizari Ismaili garrison of Gerdkuh surrendered to the Mongols. after 17 years

1791 – The United States Bill of Rights became law
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1836 – The U.S. Patent Office building burned almost to the ground, destroying all 9,957 patents issued by the federal government to that date, as well as 7,000 related patent models.

1890 – Hunkpapa Lakota leader Sitting Bull was killed on Standing Rock Indian Reservation

1893 – Symphony No. 9 by Antonín Dvořák premiered in a public afternoon rehearsal

1903 – Italo Marchiony received a U.S. patent for a machine that made ice cream cones.

1905 – The Pushkin House was established in Saint Petersburg, Russia

1917 – An armistice between Russia and the Central Powers was signed.

1941 – German troops and Ukranian auxilliaries killed over 15,000 Jews at Drobytsky Yar

1944 – An airplane carrying USAAF Major Glenn Miller was lost over the English Channel.

1945 – General Douglas MacArthur ordered that Shinto be abolished as the state religion of Japan.

1960 – Richard Pavlick was arrested for plotting to assassinate U.S. President-Elect John F. Kennedy.

1965 – Project Gemini: Gemini 6A was launched from Cape Kennedy, Florida.

1970 – Soviet spacecraft Venera 7 successfully landed on Venus

1973 – The American Psychiatric Association voted to remove homosexuality from its official list of psychiatric disorders

1978 – U.S. President Jimmy Carter announced that the United States will recognize the People's Republic of China and sever diplomatic relations with Taiwan.

1989 – The Second Optional Protocol to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights relating the abolition of capital punishment was adopted.

2000 – The third reactor at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant was shut down.

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Some people who were born on this day:

“The public has a distorted view of science because children are taught in school that science is a collection of firmly established truths. In fact, science is not a collection of truths. It is a continuing exploration of mysteries.

~~ Freeman Dyson

1567 – Christoph Demantius, composer, poet, and theorist
1610 – David Teniers the Younger, painter
1657 – Michel Richard Delalande, organist and composer
1686 – Jean-Joseph Fiocco, violinist and composer
1710 – Francesco Zahra, painter
1832 – Gustave Eiffel, architect and engineer, co-designed the Eiffel Tower
1852 – Henri Becquerel, physicist and chemist, Nobel Prize laureate
1859 – L. L. Zamenhof, linguist and ophthalmologist, created Esperanto
1860 – Niels Ryberg Finsen, physician and educator, Nobel Prize laureate
1861 – Charles Duryea, engineer and businessman, co-founded the Duryea Motor Wagon Company
1886 – Florence Jepperson Madsen, contralto singer and professor of music
1891 – A.P. Carter, country singer, songwriter and musician (More Carter Family)
1894 – Vibert Douglas, astrophysicist and astronomer
1896 – Betty Smith, author and playwright
1907 – Oscar Niemeyer, architect, designed the United Nations Headquarters and the Cathedral of Brasília
1910 – John Hammond, record producer and critic
1911 – Stan Kenton, pianist and composer
1913 – Muriel Rukeyser, poet, academic, and activist
1916 – Buddy Cole, pianist, organist, and conductor
1916 – Maurice Wilkins, physicist and biologist, Nobel Prize laureate
1919 – Max Yasgur, dairy farmer and host of the Woodstock Music & Art Fair
1921 – Alan Freed, radio host
1923 – Freeman Dyson, physicist and mathematician
1928 – Ernest Ashworth, singer and songwriter
1928 – Ida Haendel, violinist and educator
1932 – Jesse Belvin, singer, songwriter, and pianist
1939 – Cindy Birdsong, singer and songwriter
1939 – Dave Clark, musician and songwriter
1945 – Heather Booth, civil rights activist, feminist, and political strategist
1946 – Carmine Appice, drummer and songwriter
1950 – Sylvester James Gates, theoretical physicist and professor
1952 – Rudi Protrudi, singer, songwriter, and producer
1955 – Paul Simonon, singer, songwriter, and bass player
1957 – Tim Reynolds, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1958 – Richard Kastle, classical pianist
1960 – Walter Werzowa, composer and producer
1962 – Tim Gaines, bass player
1971 – Clint Lowery, singer, songwriter, guitarist, and producer
1978 – Ned Brower, drummer
1978 – Mark Jansen, guitarist and songwriter
1980 – Sergio Pizzorno, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1983 – Ronnie Radke, singer, songwriter, guitarist, and producer
1986 – Kim Junsu, singer, songwriter, and dancer
1996 – Jenifer Brening, singer

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Some people who died on this day:

“You cannot lose what you never had.”

~~ Isaak Walton

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence

~~ Christopher Hitchens (Hitchens' Razor)

1675 – Johannes Vermeer, painter and educator
1683 – Izaak Walton, author
1792 – Joseph Martin Kraus, pianist, violinist, and composer
1817 – Federigo Zuccari, astronomer,
1819 – Daniel Rutherford, chemist and physician
1855 – Jacques Charles François Sturm, mathematician and academic
1878 – Alfred Bird, chemist and businessman, invented baking powder
1890 – Sitting Bull, tribal chief
1943 – Fats Waller, singer, songwriter and pianist
1944 – Glenn Miller, bandleader and composer
1958 – Wolfgang Pauli, physicist and academic (Pauli exclusion principle)
1966 – Walt Disney, animator, director, producer, and screenwriter,
1971 – Paul Lévy, mathematician and theorist
1984 – Jan Peerce, tenor and actor
2003 – George Fisher, cartoonist
2011 – Bob Brookmeyer, trombone player and composer
2011 – Christopher Hitchens, essayist, literary critic, and journalist
2013 – Harold Camping, evangelist, author, radio host
2024 – Zakir Hussain, tabla player, musical producer, film actor and composer

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Some Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:

Bill of Rights Day (United States)
2nd Amendment Day (South Carolina)
Cat Herders Day
National Cupcake Day
Zamenhof Day (International Esperanto Community)
World Turkic Language Family Day (UNESCO)

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Today's Tunes

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Christoph Demantius

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Michael Richard Delalande

Jean-Joseph Fiocco

A.P. Carter

Stan Kenton

Buddy Cole

Ida Haendel

Jessie Belvin

Cindy Birdsong

Dave Clark

Carmine Appice

Paul Simonon

Fats Waller

Glenn Miller

Bob Brookmeyer

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Ok, it's an open thread, so it's up to you folks now. What's on your mind?

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Cross posted from http://caucus99percent.com

open thread, Bill of Rights Day, AP Carter, Fats Waller, Christopher Hitchens, Dave Clark, Glen Miller

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usefewersyllables's picture

totalitarian governments throughout history:

"That which is not prohibited is mandatory."

It's kind of pretty how the colors all blend together as we slide down this slope together, innit?

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

enhydra lutris's picture

@usefewersyllables
"All that is not mandatory is forbidden" and we are going there at a goodly pace. All the colors swirling and blending together as we slide into tyranny do make pretty patterns but we all know that the end result is wither black or a dark muddy brown.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

QMS's picture

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It will be filed under accounts receivable.
Amendable pending further discovery.

Thanks for the Glenn Miller mood song.
A swinging start to a snowy day.

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Zionism is a social disease

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@QMS

keeps going up while the rights afforded keep decreasing; perhaps it has something to do with "inverted democracy"?

Glad you liked to tune, it does seem to add some bounce to the morning.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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A cold 17F early, but already in mid-20's and headed to about 40F. Tomorrow will be warmer, but still cold for Trade Day in the morning. Fortunately the sun is out and the house is heating itself.

Too bad the constitution no longer applies... especially the bill of rights. Nor does once accepted international law. No the US is a law unto itself.

“What if the rights and principles guaranteed in the Constitution have been so distorted in the past 200 years as to be unrecognizable by the Founders? What if the government was the reason we don’t have a Constitution anymore? What if freedom’s greatest hour of danger is now?”—Andrew P. Napolitano

Thanks for the OT and all the music!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

enhydra lutris's picture

@Lookout

rights, like both US and international law are vanishing from this land.
Thanks for that great quote from the Judge

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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our beloved gummint is playing fast and loose with freedom of navigation of the skies as well. This one is nasty, and shows just how utterly insane our Caribbean policy is right now. Narco and Hegseth's lttle play-war is going to get a lot of people killed.

A US military aircraft narrowly avoided a collision with a JetBlue passenger jet in skies near Venezuela after crossing into the commercial plane's flight path without activating its transponder, according to air traffic control audio reviewed by The NY Times and others.

The JetBlue flight had departed from Curaçao, a Dutch Caribbean island roughly 40 miles off Venezuela’s coast, and was heading to New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport when the near-miss incident occurred Friday. That it was headed for JFK from what's a popular seasonal tourist destination suggests that most of the passengers were Americans on board.

"We almost had a midair collision," the JetBlue pilot said in the recording. "They flew directly through our flight path … and they don’t have their transponder on. It's outrageous."

https://archive.ph/247bK

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@usefewersyllables

If they do knowk one down they'll just claim that they thought it was a terist F-14. It worked for the Vincennes when it gunned down Iran Air Flight 655.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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....take on the global economy, and how it works. Perhaps because Australia is not a contender for Empire, its views seem more objective and intellectually honest. in any event, economist. Steve Keen's views on industrialization and international trade seem both enlightened and pragmatic. It is also rare to run across a Westerner who actually knows what "communism" is and how it works. Communism is very hard to spot in the real world, where leaders employ a wide variety of complex systems and ideologies to manage their social and commercial enterprises. Although communism does remain an incoherent fever-dream in the Neocon-run nations.

Lots of fresh perspectives and practical wisdom, here. And very few dire predictions. Keen points out that it is almost impossible for a developed nation to implode and drag other nations into economic chaos. There are too many practical regulations firmly in place in the modern world to prevent that sort of chaotic contagion. With Jackson Hinkle.
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...how much junk is being launched into space.

The wind woke me up last night about 4am, so I thought I might have missed the Atlas V launch. Turns out the launch was postponed due to wind conditions till zero dark thirty Dec. 16, between 3:28am and 3:57am.

There's a Falcon 9 flight Starlink mission scheduled from Florida not long after that on the 17th-

Launch time: Window opens at 7:19 a.m. EST (1219 UTC)
Launch site: Launch Complex 39A, Kennedy Space Center, Florida

SpaceFlight Now

I visited the old Norad hq about 50 years ago, and they complained about keeping track of all the space junk back then.

Enjoyed listening to the music videos this am, thanks EL! At one point, I was very committed to the 4th Amendment; then I discovered the problem lay not only with police but judges as well.

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語必忠信 行必正直

2nd, 4th, 5th are the biggies for me. Texas has the right to abridge the 2nd in numerous ways. There are categories of misdemeanors which take away your right to bear arms upon conviction. This is tough in my neck of the woods when you can't hunt, can't protect yourself, your home, or your family. I can bitch slap a neighbor and get a misdemeanor assault charge that has no lasting effect beyond the victim's bruise...heh...but if I bitch slap a family member, hoo wee! Victims in this category also include persons with whom you have a dating relationship.
Thanks for the interesting OT and In the mood!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981