Open Thread for April 18, 2016


Open Thread for April 18, 2016 - Happy Nevsky.

Today we celebrate Alexander Nevsky's defeat of the Crusaders & Teutonic Knights, but more on that later.

It is April 18, so today's number is 18
18 is a multiple of 9, 3, and 6, leading to suspicions that it will generate unending fractions (more later)

18 is the sum of 3 of its divisors, 3, 6, and 9
18 is argon, a noble gas
I8 is the group containing noble (inert) gases in the periodic table

The Mahabarata has 18 books, (including the Bhagavad Gita which has 18 chapters) and concerns a war between 18 armies that lasted 18 days

OK, deep breath, but first recall that 1/3 is .333 repeated forever, 1/6 is .666 repeated forever and 1/9 is .111 repeated forever.
1/18 = 0.055 repeat 5 forever
2/18 = 0.111 repeat 1 forever (1/9)
3/18 = 0.166 repeat 6 forever (1/6)
4/18 = 0.222 repeat the 2 (2/9)
5/18 = 0.277 repeat the 7
6/18 = 0.333 repeat the 3 (1/3)
7/18 = 0.388 repeat the 8
8/18 = 0.444 repeat the 4 (4/9)
9/18 = .5 (1/2)
10/18 = 0.555 repeat 5 forever (5/9)
11/18 = 0.611 repeat 1 foreve
12/18 = 0.666 repeat 6 forever (2/3)
13/18 = 0.722 repeat the 2
14/18 = 0.777 repeat the 7 (7/9)
15/18 = 0.833 repeat the 3 (5/6)
16/18 = 0.888 repeat the 8 (8/9)
17/18 = 0.944 repeat the 4

In most countries, 18 is the age of majority
In most countries, 18 is the voting age
18 is the age of sexual consent under the Mann Act (What famous performer was busted under the Mann Act?)
18 is 6 pm

There are 18 chapters in Ulysses by James Joyce

18 BCE was Year of the Consulship of Lentulus and Lentulus (That would be Publius Cornelius Lentulus Marcellinus, and Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus)
Caesar Augustus introduced two of the lex Julia, the Lex Iulia de Ambitu which punished bribery when acquiring political office and the Lex Iulia de Maritandis Ordinibus which restricted marriage between differing social classes
Juba II was King of Mauretania and Lugaid Riab nDerg was High King of Ireland

18 CE was the Year of the Consulship of Augustus and Caesar
The Roman poet Ovid died

On this
day in

1521 Martin Luther's trial went into day two during the assembly of the Diet of Worms.

1831 The University of Alabama was founded, providing a future alma mater for The Snake

1857 Allan Kardec published "The Spirits Book" bringing about the birth of Spiritualism in France.

1906 An earthquake and fire destroyed much of San Francisco, California.

1909 Joan of Arc was beatified in Rome. Not bad for a heretic burned at the stake for her heresies.

1924 Simon & Schuster published the first crossword puzzle book.

1930 The BBC reported that there was no news and then played piano music.

1946 The International Court of Justice held its first meeting.

1958 A United States federal court ruled that Ezra Pound had to be be released from an insane asylum.

2007 The Supreme Court upheld the so-called "Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act".

Born
this
day in

1480 Lucrezia Borgia, the daughter of Pope Alexander VI

1648 Jeanne Guyon, a mystic and hence heretic of some acclaim in France

1772 David Ricardo, an economist

1857 Clarence Darrow, an attorney.

1882 Leopold Stokowski, a conductor

1901 Al Lewis, a songwriter

1918 Clifron Hillegass, the founder of CliffsNotes

1924 Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown, a guitarist, singer and songwriter

1940 Mike Vickers, a guitarist, sax player and songwriter (Manfred Mann)

1946 Skip Spence, a singer, songwiter, drummer and guitarist (Jefferson Airplane, Moby Grape)

Died
this
day in

1945 Ernie Pyle, a journalist and soldier

1955 Albert Einstein, a patent clerk, physicist, inventor, and engineer

2012 Dick Clark, a television personality and tv producer

2013 Cordell Mosson, a bass player (Parliament, Funkadelic)

Holidays, Holy Days, Feasts, Observances and such
The Evil Russkies celebrate Nevsky's victory over the glorious Crusaders at "The Battle of the Ice" on Lake Peipus. This particular sub-crusade of the Northern Crusades was led by the Teutonic Order, aka Teutonic Knights. Like the Albigensian Crusade, it was aimed at exterminating a European Christian sect that did not, in the minds of various Popes and lesser Catholic functionaries, properly follow prescribed dogma, doctrine, rite and ritual. (In this case, it was the Eastern Orthodox Church and its followers, as opposed to the Cathars, but it's all the same Crusader schtick of attempting to force Catholicism upon all humankind by the sword.) Unlike the Albigensian Crusade, it was also aimed at the extermination and/or conversion of all pagans.

Also unlike the Albigensian Crusade, this one failed. Nevsky hammered the living crap out of the Crusader invaders. This put pause to the northeastern thrust of the Catholic Church's quest for global religious hegemony and tyranny, and also took a big bite out of the Teutonic Knights, some of its most aggressive thugs and enforcers. It did, however, protect and preserve the Eastern Orthodox Church, which is becoming something of a tyranny of its own in Russia these days, but that is perhaps the nature of the beast.

So, we get:
Al Lewis
Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown
Mike Vickers
Skip Spence
Dick Clark
Cordell Mosson

Written by Al Lewis & Sylvester Bradford, sung by Little Anthony & The Imperials

Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown

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Mike Vickers
Skip Spence

Dick Clark's American Bandstand introduced a lot of acts to the broader public, like ...

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and the Evening Blues are just awesome--jam--packed full of excellent material. Love it! Thank you, el Smile

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and everyone. Happy Monday. Smile Thank you for the open thread, el.

NYTimes' coverage of Bernie's rally in Prospect Park. In the Politics section this morning. No pictures of rally, but a picture of Clinton on the subway from earlier this month.

The battle for Brooklyn between Hillary Clinton and Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont is intense, and Mrs. Clinton is counting on her deep support in the borough’s African-American neighborhoods to offset Mr. Sanders’s popularity among white liberals. At a block party in the Bedford-Stuyvesant section on Sunday, she was praised by Representative James E. Clyburn, a civil-rights leader who traveled from his home state, South Carolina, for the occasion.

The former secretary of state is comfortably ahead in the polls here, and she seems to be enjoying hopscotching around the state she represented for eight years in the Senate.

But for all the warmhearted reminiscences, Mrs. Clinton has something to fear from Mr. Sanders on Tuesday. Around the time she visited Bedford-Stuyvesant, thousands gathered for a rally for Mr. Sanders in Prospect Park, the pristine patch of green wedged between lower-income Crown Heights and upscale Park Slope. The actor Danny DeVito led the cheerful crowd in chants of “Bernie! Bernie!” and someone handed out copies of a fake newspaper with a banner headline reading “A Vote for Hillary Clinton Is a Vote for Donald Trump.”

The Sanders campaign said the crowd reached 28,300, a record for its rallies.

Mr. Sanders will hold a rally at Hunter’s Point South Park in Queens on Monday evening, for which doors open at 5 p.m. And Mrs. Clinton will address one of her core constituencies — women — at the New York Hilton Midtown. Doors open at noon.

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complete embarassment. Thanks for posting that.

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It is a GLORIOUS day here, going to be near 70 F. I've already cleaned up my patio, and have started on cleaning up my garden....

Last winter we lost a big cedar tree on the property. It split in the wind and part of it fell all of the way across the street. Turns out it was a city tree, so they cleaned it up and took down the rest of the tree. It was dead on the inside. So, when they take one down they replace it. And I got to pick what we get!

I chose a Serviceberry over a Lilac. One can eat the Serviceberries. One more step towards permaculture! Smile The Arborist I have been talking to is a cool young man, and is trying to get the city to start planting more food trees. But the lawyers are afraid someone might get hurt if fruit drops on sidewalks. This is something to change for us urban homesteaders.

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Holy Macaroni: Welcome To The First-Ever Official Pastafarian Wedding

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Bridegroom Toby Ricketts and bride Marianna Fenn stand on a jetty in Akaroa harbor, New Zealand, on Saturday.
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I gotta do that if I ever get married again.

Course as I've stolen joke from Sam Kinison, if I ever get married again, I want a guy with a drum set there to do rim shots during the vows...

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that's why I haven't met her yet......

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I donated to Bernie's campaign today. First time I ever gave $$ to a politician -- Ever. I guess I had to wash out the bad taste of the Clooney Dog Food For Hellery fiasco.

And I ordered my Bernie button today. This will go on my baseball cap. I never go outdoors without my cap on. Smile

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Just a quick reminder - the thread for this weeks photography assignment is up and already has some contributions. The assignment is Black and white outdoor flowers and or plants. All contributions welcome!
Smile
http://caucus99percent.com/content/weekly-photography-assignment

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at my house. Scouring the neighborhood for more, but nobody seems to carry the spiced Rose that I like. (Plain rose, yes, but nobody carries the "Dragon's Blood" variety. Yes, I sound like a dork, but it's something that has made my living situation better... and cheap too.)

One thing I've realized I do with my kids is a very theatrical thing but it works for us. Every day before it's time to go, I give the kids "Calls". Ten Minutes, Five minutes, One minute till time, Kids! (To which they respond, "Five Minutes, Thanks Dad".) It's theater protocol, but it makes our mornings go so smoothly, it's crazy. Nobody racing to get things together at the last second.

Actually not certain what I'm going to do today, but I really feel the need to DO something positive today. Almost think today might be the day I start working on the book again. Sounds like a positive step towards success. Smile

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You are in a nice groove with your children.

But added pollutant molecules @ home? I am a scent-sensitive, but I can tolerate that. I live in a Radon House. Outside air, 20 min per hour, but the intake is close to ground. My water is sky-high with radon, no doubt out-gassing. But, it's radiation background, except for Marcellus shale.

30 years in this house, smoked inside maybe 2 hours, long ago. Nights get chilly on the porch. Vaper now. Wink Inside, in bed, w00t.

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Since I don't smoke in the house, and it's near the kitchen we've got plenty of ventilation. Also have a fan right over where we burn it, so no worries about air quality.

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Yesterday, outside, butt on ground while puppy ran around, I heard the plants grow. Under me, all around, the ground made little popping noises that I think were plants emerging from the leaves. I heard Nature. Wink

That makes me good.

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Dragon's Blood in the antique store three blocks from here. But it's in California, so you wouldn't want it. ; )

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Sigh...you'd think after 25 years of marriage (29 years of relationship) I'd be used to it by now.

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ugh. Hunkered down and doing okay but no work for Papa and no school for Kid (still asleep) so Ill be in the kitchen... back later!


http://abc13.com/weather/flash-flood-emergency-issued-for-parts-of-se-texas/39346/

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doing it outside today.

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Clarence Gatemouth Brown - w00t!
Nevsky - w00t!
The consulship of Lentulus & Lentulus - sigh: after the republic, comes the empire; always and forever because human nature evolves (pre-climate change, but I repeat myself) glacially.

Have a great day,

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And an august cast of characters for ABCDE? If I had picked a boy-pup, his name was designated Flynn, In Like Flynn, referring to the penile element I think. Very naughty, lost in time.

I picked a girl-pup instead. Just for a change-up from boy-dogs. Squat, not leg-lifting.

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know that. I was thinking of a rock star who did 3 years hard time.

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Chuck Berry. Sentenced to three years; served twenty months. GG is right; Chaplin was prosecuted under the act, too. As were Frank Lloyd Wright, and boxer Jack Johnson. The latter needed to go into the jail at all costs because he was black and in the ring knocked out white men. Jedgar Hoover tried for years to pop Errol Flynn under the Act, but failed; he did get charged with stautory rape, though. The Mann Act is still in effect, so be careful. It was authored by James Mann, a howling imbecile, who said of the March 1913 Washington DC parading suffragists, who were "jeered, tripped, grabbed, shoved" and subjected to "indecent epithets and barnyard conversation," that "they should have been at home where they belonged."

I don't think that numbers that "will generate unending fractions" should be allowed to run around loose.

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Unending decimals are conceptually interesting, IMHO. One ninth, for example is 0.1111 and ones forever. Well and good. Early pocket calculators, faced with (1/9) x 9 returned 0.9999 and nines forever. Is this an error, or perhaps a proof of limit theory? I personally have a serious fondness for 1/7, but I do admit to wierdness, so there is that ...

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is, classically, considered dissonance.

A minor ninth:

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHalQXynK4]

The major seventh, it is also considered dissonant.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO5p-gNyVlo]

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like Bennett Cerf, on "What's My Line?", I had to disqualify myself as I know too much about these musician's lives. Like how Buddy Holly left Lubbock Texas to move to Greenwich Village. Or how Gene Vincent was in the taxi with Eddie Cochran when Eddie got killed. Also Sharon Sheeley, who wrote "Poor Little Fool". And, while on the subject of car crashes of the famous pop stars, that Gloria Jones, who did the original version of "Tainted Love", was driving the car that went out of control, killing her boyfriend Marc Bolan.

and about the major 7th, one of those clever Beatle bits is how they use it in "No Reply". Thanks, remaining Beatles, for making it difficult to find youtubes of your music. The only one I could find was this Beatle cartoon.

but anyway, in the part that goes "I saw the light...I saw the light" someone came up with the great idea to use different chords on the same melody. That is, the first "I saw the light" uses a minor (let's call it E minor, which has the notes e, g and b), going to a B minor, while the second "I saw the light" uses a major 7th (here it would be C major 7th, using the notes e, g, b and c). Just a tiny little detail that is hardly noticeable but affects the feel.

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remaining Beatles (down to two now) even control their music? I thought it was owned by Michael Jackson and that chimp in the sleep chamber.

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so if someone wants to cover the Beatles songs, for an album or a commercial, they have to ask Sony and if someone wants to use the actual records they have to ask Apple.

When Apple released the new version of 1 (1+, 1+ with book, 1+ with Paul and/or Ringo moving in with you and the other variations) they figured out how to pull all of those videos off of youtube, since they're selling 50 videos on the new package.

note: I used the edit feature to make myself look less illiterate than it originally seemed.

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doesn't jettison the edit feature. If he does, this place will look like Night Of The Knuckledraggers.

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I enjoy your number explorations...fun. Speaking of numbers, how 'bout 28000+ in Brooklyn yesterday. Will the Queens rally be even larger today?

It's tax day. Guess who isn't paying any?
https://ourfuture.org/20160418/tax-day-global-corporations-prefer-to-defer

For those waiting for an indictment, more people are speaking out.
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/04/17/is-hillary-clinton-above-the-law/

And finally a nice 1 min video of Jane talking about her partner

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It is a beautiful day here in western NC. We took the dogs for a walk this morning and it was very chilly to start and almost hot by the time we finished.

At our Peace vigil on Saturday, we had two teenage skateboarders stop by. Both boys were sixteen, too young to vote, but they saw Don's Bernie pin on his hat and said that if they could vote, they would be voting for Bernie. They also asked if they could hold one of our signs. We were just about ready to pack up, but I handed my sign to one of them for a few minutes. Earlier we had several young girls walk by and they all said "Go Bernie!" as they passed. I asked the boys how they knew about Bernie and they said they read about him on the internet. One boy said that he was very interested in politics and tried to read as much as he could. If Bernie does not win this time, it will probably be the last gasp for the establishment. These kids are smart and they want big changes. They know that they are getting screwed. It does my heart good to see kids like this.

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GG I recall you posted a few pics of you and the Peace Revolutionaries back in the What's Happenin' diaries. Great to see you haven't given up the fight! Smile

I agree, young people know more about what's really going on. Probably because they don't watch the teevee corporate news, rather getting news from trusted online sources. There's a New Hope!

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Me and two octagenarians. One of them is not well but he comes when he can. Our 86 year old is like the Energizer Bunny and he is the one who was behind this in the beginning. I have told him that I will stay as long as he does.

These kids were impressive. They know just how bad the future looks for them. One kid told me he tries to read all he can about the politicians. But, they do not trust the establishment. I found the same thing with the millennials I met in Occupy. They do not trust either party. And if they are indicative of the young people of voting age, I think a lot of them will sit out if Bernie is not the nominee.

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but it looks like he wasn't busted and arrested for it. At any rate, he's not who I had in mind.

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Chuck Berry.

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I have no sympathy for adults who bugger children, but We All Know that happens. Only the famous get targeted. Different"legal" plane. ----Did I spell that last word correctly? Plain? Too many homonyms.

edit: bad spelling, earlier than the last.

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and Hellery to his right. Otherwise it looks accurate.

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Economic: He is more of a Neolib
Foreign Policy: She is more of a Neocon
But as this is only an economic scale Obama is certainly as close if not closer to the GOP.

I also take a bit of issue with the liberal/progressive scale but that is an old discussion.

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is even a moderate Repug. Not unless you believe Goldwater or Kissinger are in any way moderate. As for domestic policy she's full blown conservative with no redeeming value. Goldman Sachs and Robert Rubin are not moderate. Turns out Mr. 'Conscience of a Liberal' Krugman is not very moderate either. Neocon- Neoliberalism is not moderate it's freaking fascistic and way off the charts regardless of what the measurements of mass deception tell you. The compass of right center left are gone daddy gone and the interpretations that all sides use to bolster their claims that this is reality and all insurrections are fringe and off the charts they devised. These charts and measurements define where we all stand in relationship to the pols of mass deceptions stances which have no direction other then killing , misery and profit. What kind of political measurement is this?

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rarely acknowledged positives of the Soviet period is that during it the Russian Orthodox Church was told to shut up and sit in the corner. Now it is back, and, again, completely out of control.

April 18 is also the birthday of actor Eric Roberts, who for several years snorted most of the cocaine to come out of Bolivia.

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Not defending current behavior of Russian Orthodox Church but surely there is some middle ground between now and then?

Under Stalin

The main target of the anti-religious campaign in the 1920s and 1930s was the Russian Orthodox Church, which had the largest congregation. Nearly all of its clergy, and many of its believers, were shot or sent to labor camps.

Under Krushchev

A new and widespread persecution of the church was subsequently instituted under the leadership of Nikita Khrushchev and Leonid Brezhnev. A second round of repression, harassment and church closures took place between 1959 and 1964

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Orthodox_Church

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researching the brutality the Russian Orthodox Church inflicted upon the Russian people. And for centuries. And is inflicting upon them again, now. I don't condone Soviet violence against the church and its adherents. But it is a fact that for hundreds of years the Russian Orthodox Church was a major contributor to the miseries of the Russian people. And that it is currently one leg of the troika that is smothering Russia.

And, wikipedia? Really? ; )

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but two wrongs do not make a right.

Re the wiki thing are you saying that the two quotes are wrong? If you want me to find a different source I'm sure that it wouldn't take me too long.

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18 —> a 1 and an 8 —> the 1st and 8th letters of the alphabet

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no matter the context, I get an Alice Cooper earworm.

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There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.

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Ho ho — picturing “Adolf Cooper” belting out, “I wanna be elected!” — calling Mel Brooks . . .

In the Netherlands, the initials A.H. are more associated with the ubiquitous Albert Heijn, a small-town grocer whose operation grew to become a huge supermarket chain owned by the holding company Ahold.

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Eisenstein, 1938, because Nevsky the great Russian hero defeated the Nazis.

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to post that movie
[video:https://youtu.be/-nRev9FvsBU]

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but the bit about the knights falling through the ice is probably fiction. Nonetheless, there's a great allusion to it in the movie "Billion Dollar Brain".

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I have to admit that I get confused who was invading whom, who fought against whose oppression and who were the oppressors of whom.

The Evil Russkies celebrate Nevsky's victory over the glorious Crusaders at "The Battle of the Ice" on Lake Peipus. This particular sub-crusade of the Northern Crusades was led by the Teutonic Order, aka Teutonic Knights. Like the Albigensian Crusade, it was aimed at exterminating a European Christian sect that did not, in the minds of various Popes and lesser Catholic functionaries, properly follow prescribed dogma, doctrine, rite and ritual. (In this case, it was the Eastern Orthodox Church and its followers, as opposed to the Cathars, but it's all the same Crusader schtick of attempting to force Catholicism upon all humankind by the sword.) Unlike the Albigensian Crusade, it was also aimed at the extermination and/or conversion of all pagans.

Also unlike the Albigensian Crusade, this one failed. Nevsky hammered the living crap out of the Crusader invaders. This put pause to the northeastern thrust of the Catholic Church's quest for global religious hegemony and tyranny, and also took a big bite out of the Teutonic Knights, some of its most aggressive thugs and enforcers. It did, however, protect and preserve the Eastern Orthodox Church, which is becoming something of a tyranny of its own in Russia these days, but that is perhaps the nature of the beast.

Teutonic Order, teutonic Knights? I need to learn about this. Teutonic sounds like Wiking-ish, may be aryan? Sigh. You are so lucky to be that educated. I wished I were.

Your OTs are a great catalyst to try to understand history. I will get there eventually. In the end they are all ass-holish oppressors.... like in the nature of the beast.

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In the end they are all ass-holish oppressors.... like in the nature of the beast.

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a great article by Erica Garner from Common Dreams at TOP.
I Feel a Political Revolution Coming.

I think Don Midwest made a great comment in the thread of this diary, which links to another article in Common Dreams.
Would Hillary Overthrow a Government Run by Bernie?
by Les Leopold

Oh, quite damning of Hillary Clinton's involvements back in the days.

I can't figure out how to pull up just a single comment on TOP and link to it, so I have to copy it here in its entirety.

Don midwest Apr 18 · 10:51:41 AM
Would Hillary Overthrow a Government Run by Bernie?

I was kicked out of the Peace Corps for several reasons including profound language difficulties and leading a revolt in the training group. In 1967 I had a MA in Math from Berkeley and was in a revolting mood. At the time there were more Peace Corps volunteers in Chile than any other country in the world and the US government was trying to sway the election so that Allende would not be elected. He was elected and a US sponsored coup killed him and led to decades of oppression. Henry Kissinger, one of Hillary’s friends and advisers and vacation couple, was linked to the coup in Chile, among other places.

This article is a thought piece. Bernie’s democratic socialism policies are aligned with positions that have led to US linked coups in Latin America, so as an exercise in thinking, would Hillary overthrow a government run by someone with the policies of Bernie? Short answer, sure she would.

Lots of details in the well written article.

Let’s try a thought experiment.

Imagine for a moment that a Bernie-like leader was elected the president of a Latin American country and that the U.S. feared he would adopt policies that were hostile to American corporate interests. Further imagine that Hillary became the president of the U.S. Would she consider supporting a coup against Bernie?

We know what this Bernie-like president would likely do. He would want to break up the largest banks and begin to replace them with public banks. He would call to renegotiate foreign debt, especially with American creditors. In addition, he would increase labor rights in ways that might threaten American business interests. Also he might extend diplomatic ties with Cuba, China and Iran, contrary to the wishes of the U.S.

In short, his policies would be reminiscent of those put forth by Salvador Allende, the socialist Chilean president who was undermined by covert American operations even before he was elected in 1970. By 1973, the U.S. had created the conditions that led to the violent overthrow of the democratically elected government by General Pinochet, who proceeded to kill thousands of Chileans....

article continues and much more detail there

So Would Hillary Support a Coup to Oust a Sanders-like Presidency in Latin America?

While our thought experiment may at first appear ludicrous, the people of Honduras might not think it so. Under Hillary Clinton’s leadership as Secretary of State, the U.S. gave support to the Honduras military which ousted yet another democratically elected president. Here’s Dana Frank’s description in the New York Times on January 26, 2012.

“Ever since the June 28, 2009, coup that deposed Honduras’s democratically elected president, José Manuel Zelaya, the country has been descending deeper into a human rights and security abyss. That abyss is in good part the State Department’s making....
This chain of events — a coup that the United States didn’t stop, a fraudulent election that it accepted — has now allowed corruption to mushroom. The judicial system hardly functions. Impunity reigns. At least 34 members of the opposition have disappeared or been killed, and more than 300 people have been killed by state security forces since the coup, according to the leading human rights organization Cofadeh. At least 13 journalists have been killed since Mr. Lobo took office, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists....

Why has the State Department thrown itself behind the Lobo administration despite brutal evidence of the regime’s corruption? In part because it has caved in to the Cuban-American constituency of Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the Republican chairwoman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and her allies. They have been ferocious about Honduras as a first domino with which to push back against the line of center-left and leftist governments that have won elections in Latin America in the past 15 years. With its American air base, Honduras is also crucial to the United States’ military strategy in Latin America.”

The Honduras story evokes some similarties ... outside of Latin America, no? I think. But what do I know. Just my guts making some noise in my mind. Sorry, if that is all known stuff to you, to me that's all something I learn along the way in recent months. And I am a slow learner and a fast "forgetter".

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[video:https://youtu.be/UtfEuxonpmk]

I like Rev. Barber's take and the Moral Mondays activists. But I haven't quite understood or remember wrongly the whole thingy that happened on TOP with regards to someone saying Dailykos people are not supposed to come to a Barber speech or something.

What has become out of this story? I am getting confused again.

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Here's a math problem or you el....

Thanks for the OT.

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Since you are now studying geometry and trigonometry, I will give you a problem. A ship sails the ocean. It left Boston with a cargo of wool. It grosses 200 tons. It is bound for Le Havre. The mainmast is broken, the cabin boy is on deck, there are 12 passengers aboard, the wind is blowing East-North-East, the clock points to a quarter past three in the afternoon. It is the month of May. How old is the captain?

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Where "N" represents the average age of a working sailor, we can also add a modifier of "X" for the years of the new captain's education. While N CAN correlate to X, it is not an essential variable, but will affect the long term stability of the new crew. Smile

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfol_TLLnIw]

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I've heard it as "you're driving a bus. At the first stop you pick up seven passengers. At the next stop 3 get off and 4 get on..." it continues with a mind-numbing series of pluses and minuses until it asks, like this example, "what color are the bus driver's eyes?"

I think it's part of a "test" that includes "a plane crashes on the border of Georgia and Florida. In which state do they bury the survivors?"

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Dr. Von Chaos: "I would say, On the Florida Side."

Examiner: "Ah, ah, that was a trick question, I said where would you bury the SURVIVORS."

Dr. Von Chaos: "I Stand by my answer."

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Who got a question wrong on a physics test. The question was Using a barometer how can you determine the height of a building. The answer the guy gave was to find the ratio of barometer height to the length of its shadow, then applying that ratio to the length of the building's shadow. Student said it was valid. Instructor maintained it was a physics class and the student gave a math class answer. The instructor gave the student a chance to change the answer to one appropriate to a physics class. So he answered Take the barometer to the top of the building, carefully noting the pressure indicated, then drop the barometer timing until it hits the ground. That was a correct physics answer.
The student did tell the instructor he had a much simpler method: take the barometer to the basement, find the head custodian, and inform him he can have this really fine barometer if he could tell how tall the building was.

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hate his sister?

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Gotta love Houston!

We have been slammed again by relentless torrents that, similar to Memorial Day last year, squatted in one spot and poured buckets! The line eventually moved through the Greater Houston Area this evening, but not before dumping nearly 18" in one particular spot in less than 24 hrs. Harris County supposedly received enough water in that same time-frame to power Niagra Falls for 88 hrs (news guy said it while I was not in room, so don't quote me.)

Horses and people and pets have been rescued. Some were not reached, even still. Human body count so far is 4. Horse & pet count unknown.

More rain expected over next two days at least. A line is developing and moving this way as I type with my thumb on my phone.

If you visit - stay out of the water! The fire ants, they float inside their mounds and will f*ck you up, when it's seriously the last thing you need while wading through nasty flood water, with the exception of a cotton mouth or an open man hole.

Oh yeah, happy tax day, too. Ugh.

Cray 2

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