Flame War and I've Had Enough
If somebody of any persuasion does not appreciate something I say, I believe that he or she has every right to conceive of me as a jerk. And I can accept criticism with equanimity, even as I argue for my point of view. But I have my limit -- which kicks in as soon as some keyboard warrior moves the debate into personal messages. I got one of those yesterday from the always loquacious Gjohnsit and it pissed me off as you can see from the transcript:
From Gjohnsit
(Quoting me from another thread) This kind of formalism shows up on message boards quite often, as earnest advocates of particular points of view try to apply this zero-sum game logic to internet discussion. "Since you did not cover this point, you lose and my take is therefore true."Do you really not recognize that you did EXACTLY this to me yesterday?
I replied May 14
Good luck with that kind of sniping, please post it in on the board.
I added May 14
And I just re-read what I did "to" you yesterday. I said you won. Irony, thy name is G.
Me May 14
Two hours later and three other members of the board have responded. And none of them reacted to this paragraph or showed any awareness that the quoted paragraph applies to you. I will be shocked if anybody else does.
This is exhibit A in my case against you for overweening self-importance.
Regarding my literal intent in writing that passage, let's just keep that our little secret.
gjohnsit May 14
Your complete lack of self-awareness is noted
You May 14
I am rubber and you are glue.
Neener neener neener.
Feel free to quote me and to repeat your latest insult on the main pages of C-99. I will then share with the group what I really think about you.
25 years of message board habit has taught me that the majority of posters do not like to see flame wars and I don't think it is in anybody's interest to play that stupid game out.
IT IS UP TO YOU.
You can make me aware of myself with more of your notions like "common courtesy" being your guiding light rather than misdirected ego. Part of me wants to see where your bile sends you even if you win over the couple dozen or so souls who still post here and I have to quit posting on C-99.
But I don't really care which way you want to go.
gjohnsit May 15
All of the bile appears to be on your side. It's you who wants to escalate this. You are obviously lying when you say that you "don't care".
But I'll keep replying just to see how long you can keep from "share with the group what I really think about you."
(emphasis added)
Me May15
Good luck with the self-righteous routine. I'll see you on the main board, liar.
Buckle up your chin strap.
This individual and I are incompatible. So I'm finally done with message boards.
Too many true believers who get bossy.

Comments
There are always
those who desire argument more than resolution. I've never understood them, and try to just avoid the whole thing, but sometimes we all get drawn in. These guys certainly understood the zeitgeist, though...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Pssst
If you put the link in the video box it shows like this.
Just an FYI.
The message echoes from Gaza back to the US. “Starving people is fine.”
Oh, I know...
In this case, I thought that making the reader take an affirmative action to find out what was hidden behind the rather anonymous link had a little bit more impact, given what I was trying to say. But this is just fine as well...
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
I forgot the text of that great sketch
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
Always appreciated your voice and opinions.
Over the years it has provided valuable input in forming, reflecting and expanding my own thoughts about many subjects. The diaries and comments authored have been on my must read list.
The private e-mail attack is insidious and cuts all other members the opportunity to know the intent of some members to restrict subjects open for discussion or simply awareness of varying viewpoints. It almost worked early in the COVID cycle on me. Would have stopped contributing if JtC had not assigned The Dose as an additional requirement for Open Thread authors. Concluded maybe there was value, kept writing until other voiced began covering similar information and felt it was time to reduce the time commitment.
Hoping you find a way to continue your valuable contributions.
Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.
Ditto.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Thank you for the nice thoughts
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
Let me chime in...
I've been in private message contact with gjohnsit today. He asked what I thought and if he should be banned.
I opted for a one month time out because of his many contributions to c99 over the years rather than an outright ban. I also stated that I'm losing my patience. It will be up to him if he wants to return in a month, or not.
Taking flame wars to private messaging is frowned upon on most blog sites, including this one.
Post script to my previous comment...
I just received confirmation from gjohnsit that I shouldn't bother with the time out, he's gone, meaning he's leaving c99, or so I surmise.
With that said, I wont block his account because that prevents people from reading his past work. It will still be there for perusal if anyone so wishes.
Not what I was hoping for
"This town is not big enough for the both of us." Nothing to feel good about.
As far as my drama queen habit of quitting the board every couple of years or so -- my thought never has to do with this particular board which is OK. The medium itself invites overeager souls to push their personal envelopes of outrage, providing great cover for hired trolls {influencers}. With this guy, the substance of his opinions is rational. He just has to insult people who do not buy his arguments. He obviously does not believe he is doing that. I sincerely wish him well as he takes his act to another theater.
My act is about to go on hiatus as I really hate this kind of shit.
But my message board jones has never completely let go of me.
Hasta luego, amigos.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.