Saturday Open Thread - 8/24/24: Odds and Ends

Good morning, good people!

After the week of travel that occurred 3 weeks ago, I am still in travel mode in my mind, thinking of visiting historical sites, natural wonders, but this is the passage of time to the now, as Kamala would say.

Yesterday, RFK, Jr., suspended his campaign and endorsed Trump. You all know that by now. His speech is below, in case you didn't get to actually see it. There is also a transcript provided.

I haven't read the entire transcript, only saw the last 30 to 40 minutes of the speech live, as it happened while I was at work. My initial impression is that no politician in the race has his ability to state specific facts, specific statistics, or put any information into policy as supporting evidence. I regard him as the only statesman on the stage. The only one with any regard for the next generation of Americans. I am in disagreement with him that American kids are a focus and we must save them, at the same time he completely disregards children in Gaza, and wholeheartedly supports the genocide. My thinking at the time of this writing is that the Democrats will say sour grapes. The Republicans will be energized. If the Uncommitted were a 1 issue anti-genocide group, they will go to Stein.

I expect lots of analysis to be posted in the comments today. Please!

In other things on my mind, it would be surveillance. This is a strange criminal case. In Texas, we require sex offenders to register their presence and/or residence with a 7 day time frame. Two family members despise my client. They reported to the cops my client had moved, stayed gone, then suddenly re-appeared, and failed to register upon his return. They were described in the police report as "seemed to be mentally impaired." The client is charged with a 3rd degree felony, is not eligible for probation. Prison or drop the case, head to trial and hope for the best. I only spent 15 minutes skimming the District Attorney's paper file while we were awaiting the judge to take the bench. This is what I saw: GPS tracker info, cell phone info. I am talking 50 plus pages of tracking of my client's activities. All over the US, since he was a cross-country trucker. Map of everywhere his truck went, location of every call. It gave me the creeps. The info was READILY available to local cops.

I am extremely bothered by that. In the long run, the state has two impaired witnesses my client moved, didn't come back to Texas and register within 7 days, and I have 10 witnesses that can testify he was on the road working, didn't move. It is just the government's ability to know our every move, all day, every day. All of us. Very depressing, very frightening. Big Brother is watching you. All the time.

It is one thing to hear Snowden say we are the most surveilled country on the globe, but this week, I saw it first hand.

So, what are you all up to, and do you mind that much if your whereabouts and calls to pals are tracked and recorded and monitored? Ho.w many times have I heard that it's ok, I am not doing anything wrong, but nothing like "If I am not doing anything wrong, leave me alone, you fuckers. Get a warrant!"

To the NSA and FBI and Homeland Security and all you other fucks, have a boring damn day, ok? I am doing fucking laundry! Let me know if you think I use to much or too little detergent!

This is an open thread, so any comment about any topic is not only ok, it is encouraged.

Let 'er rip!

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I hope to get info about the RFK, Jr. election news, and all other comments about such stuff as war, music, birds, taxes, food prices, chores, picnics, travels, bad knees, stupid neighbors, great neighbors, aggravating relative, bestest dog or cat EVAH, etc...
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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

The suspension of Kennedy’s campaign and his endorsements of Trump has shaken our two party paradigm, hopefully for good. Kennedy announced that he will request his removal from swing state ballots.

Brett Weinstein clip below puts the ramifications of the Trump/Kennedy collaboration in perspective.

https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1827297934251024560

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“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024

@ovals49 if RFKJr.s' move makes any difference. If the influx of illegal immigrants vote, which seems to be a done deal, Harris will win overwhelmingly.
Our lives will get incrementally worse no matter the outcome. I can't remember a vote actually helping anybody since Nixon went to China and moved to end the draft.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp
about the well being of the populace, and how we might improve it is a breath of fresh air, and a step in the right direction. Finding substantial common ground to agree to work together on smells a least a little bit like hope.

Our lives will get incrementally worse no matter the outcome.

I hope you are mistaken, and that that the cross border voting scare is overblown.

Is it really true that non citizen immigrants can cast a vote, if they simply believe that they are a registered voter?

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“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024

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@ovals49
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the wave of immigrants are not about to sway the election
if the states have any spine
another psyops scare tactic to make it easier to steal
a national election is all. gives the pollsters ammunition.
blame it on the non-citizens?

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@ovals49 seems to be the case.
I just watched this 11 minute MOATS vid with Galloway and Salvati. It occurred before RFKJr. stepped down, but they were both discussing the possible impact as they knew it would happen.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp
He has suspended his campaign. He requested removal of his name from the ballot in a “handful” of swing states but remains on the rest. His campaign is on hold, but he remains a candidate.

In the New York ballot access challenge over his ‘residency’ in NY, it is where his ‘domicile’ is claimed (In New York) that is the cogent determinant, not his current place of ‘residence’. RFK jr consulted a lawyers specializing in ballot access law, and filed according to this legal advice. There was no fraud, as claimed by NY. He should easily win on appeal.

One of the many ways the DNC and its operatives have hectored RFKjr’s campaign has from the beginning to pile on with frivolous legal challenges, thereby draining campaign funds on legal defenses. That and refusing a primary challenge within the party and denying crucial debate access were among the very undemocratic tactics of the Democratic Party. They no longer deserve the name Democratic IMHO.

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“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024

@ovals49 days before he "suspended" his campaign, not step down. He is only seeking to remove his name from the ballot in swing states.
The DNC is a corporation owned by the Clintons. Why anyone would expect it to be honest and democratic is beyond me. Hence, the reference to the "Clinton Circle".
Nonetheless, the uncommitteds are a 1 issue group. They will not vote for pro-genociders, which includes Harris, Trump, and RFKJr.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@ovals49 campaign law, there's a difference between "suspending" and "ending" a campaign. If you suspend, you remain able to continue to raise funds beyond immediate needs in order to retire campaign debt. If you end a campaign, fund raising is more restricted.

But it's effectively an end to his campaign. He will arrange to remove his name from the ballot in "about 10" swing states, lest he become the spoiler, he said. His name will remain on ballots in most of the remaining 40 states. But as he has endorsed DJT, his campaigning will presumably consist of joint appearances with T on an occasional basis probably.

Look for more silly and misleading negative stories about him. The DNC plays hard and dirty.

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A pleasant 62F this AM as I strolled Trade Day. Didn't buy a thing, but enjoyed visiting around. I did pick up some wood chip mulch for here around the house. We painted the downstairs porch deck and noticed it is getting bare around it so the mulch will fix that. One of those fast jobs with quick satisfaction.

The tomatoes are finally beginning to play out. All the dry weather I guess. It is already time to think about fall planting. How quickly the year spins these days.

I've really got nothing to say about our endless wars nor puppet selection.

I hope all is well in your world and your case goes well. I appreciate your battle with the injustice system. Thanks for the OT!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout Our first round of tomatoes were delicious. That second round had thick skins and they were not juicy. The weather did us no favors.
We are off to the store for some groceries for the upcoming week. A pleasant 15 mile drive through the country, cattle ranches all along the way.
I am seeing more and more cases on the docket about solicitation of prostitution, possession of child porn, etc...and have gotten info that there are teams of undercover cops working and posing, and entrapment is happening, but attorney's aren't utilizing it as a defense.
Even a local retired state trooper of high rank got swept up in a solicitation net. No pity for that crooked sob.
One place to have a talk with a client, leaving cell phones behind, would be...guess where? The holler!
Have a great day, friend!

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right, RFK supports Trump? What the fuck is going wrong?

Ok. I am too old for all this BS. Sorry good folks around here. I come back when I recover from his almost successful heart attack.

I better go searching my neighbors turtle. Our garden is more than 4000 square meters amd I am determined to find my neighbors turtle. How long do you bet it will take me to find that damned turtle. But they are such nice neighbors. I will give it a try. Jesus life is hard.

If you had the choice between being depressed, being pissed or being furious about things, what would be choir choice?

I am so happy to mot that mmentally "out of order" that I can't find the question mark on the key board, though it took me ... too long.

Be all well you good people. And not aggressive, please. Love and peace would be nice to have more of.

Bye, bye.

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@mimi ‘see’ you mimi
glad you’re still here

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Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .

Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march

@mimi I hope your health is good, and that you find that turtle!
As we wade through the weeds of the Democrat party, there is no person or policy to endorse. What they did to keep third party candidates off the ballot is nothing short of fascism.
The big stupidity of the Republicans is to identify Harris as a commie. I wish they would spend an hour reading so they could properly distinguish those two economic theories.
Have a wonderful hunt!
Always good to "see" you, chica!

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@mimi

Whenever I see you and your photo avatar, my spirit lightens.

As disturbing these times are, we are all somewhat confused. I'm glad for you that you have a wonderful neighbour, and I hope together you find that turtle.

Look for your pet turtle in areas with moist soil, dense vegetation, and logs or rocks that can provide shelter. Turtles tend to hide in quiet, shady spots. Check around the base of plants, under bushes, and in any small crevices or holes in the ground. Search carefully as turtles can easily conceal themselves. If you have a water feature in your garden, check there as well, as turtles often like to swim. Move slowly and quietly, and use a flashlight to peer into darker areas. Calling out your turtle's name may also help, as they can sometimes respond to familiar voices. With diligent searching, you should be able to locate your lost pet turtle.

For turtle bait, you can use lettuce, worms, vegetables, or even a can of tuna with holes punched in it. You should scout out the location where you believe the turtles live.

xox

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....had a qualcom system in them. This could track the tractors location, be used for messages from and to the dispatch center, and keeping electronic logs. I'm not sure how private owner/operators are equipped. The lease to own people are like subcontractors, so I'm pretty sure they have the same or similar setup. A trucker pretty much lives in his truck. Even if you have a home, family life is almost nil, one weekend a month for most, maybe once every three weeks. I knew truckers who lived in their trucks. If you're single without a family, why take on the costs of a house or apartment you almost never use? You could store your personal effects there, your property, I guess. Take a shower at a place other than a truck stop. On the other hand, drivers who lived in their trucks just used commercial storage facilities or would tell me, I keep my stuff at my son's home or something like that.

There are day cab jobs, where the driver ostensibly "gets home every night." There is no place to sleep in a "day cab." The mileage is not as good, so the pay sucks unless you're a teamster, or UPS driver or something like that. Some companies say "home every weekend." That's rare. A company like Walmart that did it, might have a waiting list to get OTR jobs there. My info is probably out of date, so be advised. In my opinion its better to be an employee than a sub, as a driver, because the employer/carrier has to absorb the overhead and have benefits (mostly just health ins) to get any decent drivers.

Thanks for the Odds and Ends OTC.

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語必忠信 行必正直

the early @soryang nineties when I drove
never made it to a million miles
unless I count my time in western europe
in the eighties
from st joe’s to quebec city to
BC and the lower 48 came off the road
in ‘98 tracked by truck the whole time

shark fin antenna on all autos since ‘05
connected to the mothership they can be
shut down with a simple command anywhere
anytime

faraday bag for the cellphone(pricey) keeps
the geeks away while mobile
no faceplant,goggle or twit

Fourth amendment violations All
constitution limits Govenment
not citizens if they can suspend
during ‘emergencies’ they are
Permissions not rights
Fuck That Shite

not voting(participating) in the Farce
so don’t know why bobby’s switch
creates feelings of hope(illusory?)
hopeless romantic? probably

two inches of rain in AUGUST? wtf
great for the fire crews so no bitchin’
watch the Beauford Gyre the future
is Cold
good luck

thanks for the ot otc
keep up the good fight

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Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .

Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march

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@Tall Bald and Ugly

farady cages. Go down the coffee and tea aisle of your local grocery, a lot of stuff sells in resealable foil bags. My farady cage, should I think I want to use it, is an empty 7.9 oz bag of Guyaki brand Yerba Mate.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

have you actually @enhydra lutris tried those
I’ve tested over two dozen
no bueno
even tried two or three together
same same

if you found one that works
spill the beans porfavor

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Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .

Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march

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@Tall Bald and Ugly

set it on my desk, and dialed it with our home phone from maybe 3 feet away; nuthin', then "your call has been forwarded to an automated messaging system."

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

will have to @enhydra lutris investigate
more
thanks
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If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march

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@Tall Bald and Ugly

I had about 700k miles. Only drove in Canada a few times. I stopped driving to retire. I think Vermont was the only one of the lower 48 I never drove through.

My reaction to the locals here when they start talking about Trump or Biden/Harris is pretty much indifference. The reaction I get from either side, is an assumption I must support the other side. I think "what other side?" If I use the expression "uniparty" or "they're all warmongers," they are nonplussed.

One thing I noticed was that the first people to put up Harris signs recently had had Ukraine symbols on their properties ever since that war began. The Trump signs have been up for years.

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St Albans @soryang vt one winter
watched Ice float in my tank
as I fueled used two gallons power service
company roadside said to pull over to
the Gas pumps and top off with
regular unleaded got me to masena(?) ny
standing temps from the radio next morning
-37 windchill -52 f not going anywhere
road side local came out change three
fuel filters could’ve been ugly melted butter
dripping from them I stayed next to the mech
as he worked to assist-Facking COLD baby
and people wonder why I stay in cali

I’m sure you got Stories as well

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Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .

Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march

@Tall Bald and Ugly a bad ass trucker!
I had mentioned earlier in an OT that beginning in 2025, all vehicles will have a kill switch. Supposedly, it is to control speeders.
So, imagine that big truck speeding along the interstate suddenly stalls.
That won't cause any pile up, ya think?
There is reason to believe insurance providers love this, as they can cancel a policy if they find their insured is a claim waiting to happen.
If it ain't the government, it's the corporations that control us!
Good suggestions for privacy, friend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

even close @on the cusp to BA
just a guy trying to make a living
and get by is all

doing what You do is bad ass counselor
you see instant results and have immediate
impact on peoples reality-totally rad

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Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march

@soryang on the stand to make damn sure the jurors understand that truckers seldom see their homes.
This guy's cell phone was provided by the company and had to remain in the truck at all times. They fired him when he voluntarily gave it to the cops upon being arrested.
It isn't the fact that we are all surveilled that was the shocker.
It was seeing the detailed evidence. Just touching the maps, reading page after page, just really shook me. The coordination between the manufacturers and spy agencies has us all in a net. We just don't see it until we get arrested.
Truckers are just bad asses. You are in that class, friend.
Your comment actually gave me some ideas for evidence to present.
Have a great day, friend!

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A quick note before heading to the blackberry patch to gather a few berries for breakfast muffins.

The surveillance is insidious. A couple of neighbors are independent truckers. At least 10 years ago began complaining about tracking while carrying certain loads. Insurance demands and safety for driver was the reasons provided for the requirements. Intersection cameras appeared on all routes but one to travel back and forth from the post office box to pick-up mail.

Spoke with the Fed-Ex driver yesterday during a delivery. They have received resent instructions to not photograph address on label, house or mailbox, unique identifying markers and keep themselves and other persons out of the picture.

Surveillance of suspected illegal activity on a nearby property can include drones monitoring your home. Four years ago thought I was being a little over-sensitive about being monitored. Computer, network and internet oddities kept happening. Surprising number of people would stop by to talk when I was outside and I would walk to the driveway gate. A few were most generous with offers to provide a helping hand with any work on the property.

Then my most troubling neighbor stopped to have me read the paperwork her trial attorney had provided after her place had been raided by the Sheriff's department. My place had been included in the area authorized for drone surveillance. The man she let park a trailer to live on her property in exchange for "help" around the place was an undercover cop. No wonder he was so persistent with offers of assistance with any little task I might find daunting to do myself.

Think we are entering the level of media, industry, agricultural and population control last seen WWII, only with modern technology twists. Found it amusing in my 20 and 30's how many of the silent generation I worked with would not indicate how much they knew about a subject until knew who were my parents, grandparents or employer. Then the type of conversation shifted completely.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

@studentofearth Yum! I used to make a pie that was essentially sweetened condensed milk with blackberries in a pie crust. They once grew everywhere around my yard, but there are only a few small briar patches left. I rarely failed to find a coral snake in the patch. For reasons, black berries attracted them.
I figure drones are the future. Add food control, medical control, travel control, and thought control into the mix, and paranoia will be the next new mental illness. The treatment for that should be another expensive pharmaceutical product that was patented before the paranoia games began.
When I hear any of the WEFfers and Gates harping on the need to reduce population, I am glad I am old.
Thanks for the story of the raid!
Have a great weekend, friend!

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Goebbels was right. The media turned the lowest rated veep in history and made her into a candidate that could win. And they got millions of people to believe that JOY is the most important part of her campaign. Not her policies.

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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?

Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.

@snoopydawg saga makes no sense to me whatsoever. Out of nowhere, she is thrust upon us and magically becomes the best of the best, with no evidence of any real accomplishments in her whole life to prove it.
What a country, huh?

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@on the cusp  
… back in the days of classic rock, without anyone ever having heard any actual music by them.

“Oh, music, who cares about that? [Karl Rove voice:] You’re part of what we call the ‘music-based community.’ That’s not the way the world works anymore. We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create [Karl Rove voice abruptly ends, reverting to original “hip” persona] vibes, man!”

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answer the phone with some variant of "Hello all you cops, feebs, spooks, spies aniks, and narcs on the line. So who's calling?" This would inform or remind callers that your phone should be presumed to be bugged. There was really nothing one could do about all the surveillance and things like infiltrators and provocateurs at gatherings, etc. and if by some magic you could get an order prohibiting some aspect of it in certain cases, the law would simply ignore the order, so why bother. Everybody knew all about cointelpro, though it didn't have a name yet until actually disclosed, but it was no secret. I recall one party where, upon looking out the window (second floor) one could easily spot all the unmarked cars from various and sundry agencies, sometimes we would wave hi.

Today everybody is more hi tech (hello, how's your keylogger doing today?) There are more tools on both sides, but unless you air gap your existence, if they want to know shit, they do and will, which creates a presumption that they have and do, so adapt.

you can, of course, encrypt innocent messages to waste their time, I used to do that in some of my posts here. It's kind of fun picking the content, but tiresome.

be well and have a good one

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https://consortiumnews.com/2024/08/22/the-right-to-be-left-alone/

THE right to be left alone. That says iy all. It is a Natural Right given to ALL humans at birth. Just like THE First Amendment. He says that Jefferson wrote it as THE 1st amendment because it existed before the Bill of Rights was signed. The government doesn’t grant us our rights, it’s supposed to UPHOLD them.

As to Kennedy withdrawing I agree with you on where the anti genocide voters will go. I still think he might have won the election if he wasn’t so insane on Gaza. He’d have gotten the votes to win, but he wouldn’t have been allowed to take office.

I posted this last night and hope people will read it. Skip past what he said to what democrats said about his withdrawal. Nothing like shooting your voters on 5th avenue in public.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-live-rfk-jr-addresses-nation

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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?

Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.

@snoopydawg

an appointment to the Supreme Court.

More Boeing news.

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@humphrey Another crooked judge on the Supreme Court, supreme in its' criminal composition.
If ever a company needed to pay for what it has done to innocent people for years, it is Boeing.
Boeing needs to disappear and take its' planes with it to oblivion.
Or Hell.
Thanks for the comment. Always interesting, friend!

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@on the cusp  
Robert Kaplan, while Dallas head of the Federal Reserve Bank, was (insider-) “trading like a hedge fund kingpin” yet never faced any consequences for his actions.

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2023/10/after-two-years-theres-still-no-l...

https://nypost.com/2024/05/08/business/goldman-sachs-names-ex-dallas-fed...

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@snoopydawg I did read the Napolitano article last night, and he can break down legal concepts to a point that makes it very comprehensible to lay persons. He taught that course in Constitutional law as a law school prof.
Various rw sites push the RFKJr. endorsement as the game changer. I do not see any gain for Harris. In fact, I doubt it changes the minds of her base at all. For her, it should be a ho hum event.
Pro-Palestine voters have nobody other than West and Stein, and West really has no campaign infrastructure.

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@on the cusp

at the bottom of the long article. But anyone voting for Kennedy didn’t give a damn about what was happening on Palestine and they will vote for Trump. Or stay home.

But get ready for the misogyny accusations to start flowing.

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Why the headline? Because she won’t give an unscripted interview. Why that’s deemed misogynistic is beyond me.

Joy is a media driven slogan, not a policy.

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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?

Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.

@snoopydawg Being a woman, I know misogyny when I see or hear it, no matter the subtlety. 72 years of living the life, with 50 years of it working in fields dominated by men.
So, anything anybody says that in any way is critical of Harris can expect completely unfounded insults and slurs. The perfect candidate, the perfect strategy, to completely hoodwink the public.
Imagine how it will be if she is elected. If so, we may as well stock up on tape, keep our mouths shut tight.

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@on the cusp

can be manipulated in a way that is similar to defining one as ‘antisemitic’.

Unfortunately, true misogyny can be dangerous, especially in combination with other deeply felt animosities. The MSN news here suggested that misogynistic threats to Jacinda Ardern were credible, and accounted partly for her decision to quit as PM. The grapevine here also suggests it was credible. Because of misogynistic tendencies, in combination with other deeply angry feelings due to her management of the covid pandemic, I can believe it was a credible threat. I’m not naive enough to believe it was the defining reason, but I’m sure it contributed to her decision. Fear, real or perceived does weird things to people.

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@janis b The take on from here is that Adern was so disliked, so validly criticized for her handling of the Covid crisis that she had enough and stepped down.
What you said about her feeling endangered is news to me.
Thanks for your input, friend!

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@snoopydawg for these people:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_Through_Joy

  • Kraft durch Freude (German for 'Strength Through Joy'; KdF) was a German NSDAP-operated leisure organization in Nazi Germany.[1] It was part of the German Labour Front (German: Deutsche Arbeitsfront), the national labour organization at that time.
  • Set up in November 1933 as a tool to promote the advantages of Nazism to the German people and internationally, it was also used to ease the process of the rearmament of Germany. Through its structure of organized events and promotion of propaganda, it was also intended to prevent dissident and anti-state behavior. By 1939, it had become the world's largest tourism operator.
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“When there's no fight over programme, the election becomes a casting exercise. Trump's win is the unstoppable consequence of this situation.” - Jean-Luc Melanchon

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So, clownfarce at work, spreading its tentacles ever further. Even if you don't run windoze or MSOriface, you're still at risk from their failings

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris Short and to the point.
Annnddd...how's the chore list looking? Whittled down a bit?
Annnddd...are you doing the cooking this week?
I made an impulse buy today. A package of sliced beef brisket, fully cooked. After I got home and checked the label, I discover it is from a smoke house in Henderson, TX, specializing in mesquite wood in smoke pits and established in 1949. We will give it a test run for Sunday dinner. My bet it on it being stocked and the meal going into the rotation of our favorites.
We live in crazy times, and this election is the craziest of my life.
Have a great weekend, friend!

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@on the cusp

is tomorrow. I've been getting a lot done, but the list is endless, though priorities vary. Wink Good luck with your sunday meal.

bwahago

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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prolly not the governed -- seekret

saw a funny sign on a pub called the Perfect Pig
they specialize in smoked pork and craft brews
"Brine your mind while you dine on swine"

Thanks for the OT!

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@QMS All this watching, and the crime rates soar. So, what is the real purpose?
Have a great weekend, and keep us posted on your food stuff, your writing stuff. I envy you that you have like-minded associates.
Thanks for your comment, and making me and others give this issue some thought, my friend.

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from the judge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMGFzoYsrE0&t=44

Last night Kennedy said that Trump will give us back our rights, but during his 1st term….listen to what the judge said he do. And don’t forget how he got Johnson to pass the new FISA law that doesn’t require the spy agencies to get warrants to spy on us.

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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?

Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.

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@snoopydawg
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politicians will say all kinds of BS to "get votes"
insincerity needs to be pointed out
thanks for parsing this issue

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@snoopydawg I encourage everyone on the site to listed to it. Devote 12 minutes to obtain a great understanding of what is going on and what it means to all of us.
Thanks, chica!

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@on the cusp

Maybe you can use his message in your court case.

Sheesh…what part of "congress shalt make no law…" does congress not understand?

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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?

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@snoopydawg since it has been established as fine and dandy all the way up to the Supreme Court.
But I can use it to make a jury squirm, make them understand they could be next.

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@on the cusp

And bring up how they are spied on 24/7 without warrants even though they have done nothing wrong. Remind them of their right and not to just roll over and yawn like the country did when Snowden told us about it. Maybe if people got upset about their rights because stolen the government would quit stealing them.

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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?

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was deeply involved.

https://fox59.com/news/national-world/reports-telegram-founder-arrested-...

Pavel Durov, the founder and CEO of the popular messaging service Telegram, has been arrested in France.

The French outlet TF1 Info was the first to report the arrest saying that Durov was taken into custody around 8 p.m. Saturday evening at the Le Bourget airport. According to TF1 Info, the 39-year-old billionaire was accompanied by his bodyguard and a woman.

French authorities issued a search warrant for Durov, which was authorized by the OFMIN (Office to Combat Violence Against Minors) of the national directorate of the French judicial police on the basis of a preliminary investigation.

According to TF1: “[The] Justice considers that the lack of moderation, cooperation with law enforcement and the tools offered by Telegram (disposable number, crypto, etc.) makes him an accomplice in drug trafficking, pedocriminal offenses and fraud.”

Durov will face a judge and could face an indictment for a multitude of offenses including terrorism, narcotics, complicity, fraud, money laundering, and receiving stolen goods, among other possible charges.

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@humphrey Another censorship case, imho.
Shut down all opposition or go to prison and have all your assets taken.
What's your take on this shit?

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@on the cusp

It seems to me that Durov will not comply with giving access to the program that frustrates the watchers. If he would give a backdoor he would walk free. Besides the charges seem to be quite a reach tying him to everything criminal without actual proof.

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@on the cusp

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Israeli source?

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breath claim that they acted in self defense.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/24/middleeast/israeli-strike-hezbollah-leban...

he Israeli military is striking what it says are “terror targets in Lebanon” after identifying that Hezbollah was “preparing to fire missiles and rockets toward Israeli territory.”

“A short while ago, the IDF identified the Hezbollah terrorist organization preparing to fire missiles and rockets toward Israeli territory,” Israel Defense Force spokesperson Daniel Hagari said early Sunday local time.

‎‏”In a self-defense act to remove these threats, the IDF is striking terror targets in Lebanon, from which Hezbollah was planning to launch their attacks on Israeli civilians,” Hagari added.

Of course!

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