Saturday Open Thread - 4/20/24: Odds and Ends
Good morning, good people!
I had a little trip through 5 counties to attend a series of lectures for purposes of fulfilling the requirement to attend a minimum of 15 hours of legal education each year.
I am very proud of myself for staying awake and faking interest in the topics.
This trip goofed up my usual shopping trip to do a little consumer prices check on food, but I can say that the gas prices held fast and firm at $3.20 per gallon from my town to the gulf. I am interested about prices for basic necessities around the country, so please let us know how it is affecting your part of this "exceptional" country. /s
I am now gonna turn to a topic that has recently become an issue in my law practice: underwear.
Years ago, a young man died, leaving behind a young wife. Wife was hated by the man's mother, who, unfortunately, lived on the same acreage, and who had primary rights to control the acreage.
They were trying to get along, post-funeral, and wife understood mil wanted to receive certain personal effects of her son. Agreed. Until mil insisted she be allowed to get her son's underwear, including his dirty underwear still in a laundry basket of dirty clothes. Hell in probate court was then unleashed. I thought this was a fluke. I was wrong.
Looking back to many asset and debt lists of many divorcing couples, I have always grouped intimate apparel into a category of "personal effects" without listing them item by item, nor has it ever been necessary for me to assign monetary values to underwear. How the hell do you assess the fair market value of used panties? If anybody on the site has experience in this niche field, please share!
So, a client listed 50 items in storage she wanted. Her valuable art and furniture was way down the list. Bra and panties (pastel color) was at the top. I told her to revise and edit the list ahead of mediation to only what is valuable. She cut the list to 30 items. Bras came in first, panties second.
She ranked for importance, not $ value.
Well, I discussed this with a couple of attorneys. One choked from laughter, said he would add underwear specifically to his client information forms. The other said she hoped I had malpractice insurance for all those past cases where I failed to put a dollar value on underwear. It is possible someone got ripped off! Then, she choked from laughter.
Before you think these people must be young and stupid, imagine these underwear issues arising from people in the professional class, middle-aged. Well, they were from the latter describe class. Both times.
We think of politicians and banksters and weapons manufacturers being crazy, but craziness comes from many sources, many types of folks. Perhaps Bill Clinton fielding a question from a reporter, "Boxers or briefs?", was a portend.
The one who wrote it:
The one who could sing it to the music chart heavens:
PSA: List underwear, both clean or dirty, in your will or pre-nuptual agreement.
I leave it to you good people to do the right thing. It can save money, time, effort.
Comments
This is an open thread,
and feel free to expand the topic beyond stretchy underwear. Please do, in fact.
Let 'er rip, good people!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I suppose the value is dependent...
on who wore said underwear...at least in the used category. New underwear could be valued based on Amazon, WalMart, or some retail outlet. Your buddies are correct, the situation is laughable. What a bizarre world!
A drizzle here today, and a larger rain due tomorrow...and the world is green. Got down cardboard and wood chips in the central garden alley, plus mulched trees. Glad we beat the rain.
Have a good day, and thanks for the OT! We're off to B'ham for a memorial service for an old friend who recently passed away.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Good morning!
Glad you got your mulching done. A chore, but a very satisfying chore, ain't it?
Although I seldom get involved in local politics, we had a miracle win in the sheriff's race. A good friend/client of mine, against all odds, beat the incumbent sheriff by such a large margin, there is no run off. This afternoon, a party is being thrown, and we will go for a while, have a spaghetti dinner, and just look around at the scene, get an idea who in the community is of like mind.
The man has had to watch his back for a year, as the way to eliminate opponents is to arrest them on phony criminal charges, or burn their house down. That is true. Not making it up. I have defended at least 6 officials and all charges were either dismissed or juries found them not guilty. A judge's house was burned down, a man running for constable had his home burn down, and an ex-wife of a commissioner had her house burned to the ground, sending the message to keep her mouth shut.
LO, so sorry about the loss of your friend. Here's hoping the family sorted out the underwear problem and that there will be no fight over them. (I just can't make this shit up!)
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Well duh…
.
Why are groceries so expensive? Because we are being priced gauged so compared can buy back their stock and pay executives lots of money. This ain’t rocket science.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/04/19/why-do-my-groceries-cost-so-much/
Oil went up briefly after Israel attacked Iran, but then went back down. My gas jumped 10 cents, but what are the odds it comes back down?
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
Good morning, friend!
I believe the initial stage of the COVID lock downs did interrupt supply chains, but that was short-lived.
Trucks were limited by the highway patrol from entering the Texas border.
That said, the article you linked is short, to the point, and today, it is absolutely true $100 worth of groceries before is $65 in groceries now.
I bitch about our government aiding and abetting the Gaza genocide by starvation, and often forget that they aid and abet the starvation of Americans every damn day. Can't regulate mergers and can't regulate price gouging, because lobbyists.
Being in government means giving up your conscience.
I will take advantage of a free dinner offered up by the sheriff-elect.
Do your best to amuse and satisfy my client today. Oh, and yourself!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I’m old enough to remember when government didn’t
like monopolies. I don’t remember when that changed, but looking at food maker charts there are maybe 7 different companies that make everything.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
I guess I do not understand libertarian
de-regulation, promotion of free market competition, as though that gives consumers competitive prices.
The un-regulated corporations consolidate, the richest one always wins and takes over, which eliminates all competition.
I just do not have a problem with limited regulation of these manical money hungry CEOs.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
It seems like what regulation there is
or social policy more generally, is to protect the big players and enforce dependence on them for everyone else...
Vaccine mandates (for people, chickens...) a pretty good example - choke off/demonize any alternatives, eliminate any liability for those making and dispensing, facilitate by control of hospital systems, regulatory agencies, state medical boards...
And you've got a system that works just fine for those in a position to cash in, for everyone else not so much.
Seems like there's a generalized war against small producers. Below is from Oregon - apparently, if you are using a well to water a half acre of lawn around your MacMansion it's unregulated, but use the same amount of land to grow anything for sale then you *are* subject to Oregon-level bureaucratic hoops to jump through.
Presumably as punishment for attempting to do something productive...
I am so worried
about the golf courses!
The rich just gotta have fun!
I just got a call about my 72 yr old vibrant school superintendent I grew up with being transferred to a Houston hospital after a major stroke.
She was vaxxed and boosted with every booster.
Who is making bank on this?
Not me. How about you?
No really good news out there, is there?
Thanks for stopping by, friend!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
To quote, or at least paraphrase the Great
Nancy Pelosi: "We live in a capitalist country, get over it". Sellers should charge whatever the market will bear; thus, such prices are not, by definition, gouging.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
That is a very cool definition
as long as you are a seller.
Can we say that a true capitalist has no problem starving people? It seems accurate, to me.
Are you off the hook for the cook?
We are debating about going to the political gathering. The weather looks bad, flooding alerts, hail warnings...Besides, do we want ourselves on a "list" made by local political opposition? Especially involving law enforcement? I am thinking even the county judge disapproves of the sheriff elect. Do we want to get cross-wise with him?
Life in a tiny community as its' problems.
Have a fun weekend, my dear friend!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
not off the hook until Sunday 4/21 n/t
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Just a few more hours
and the load shall be lifted.
I think I am going to make a pot of peas and pone of cornbread to take to the office for a lunch or two.
Betcha haven't heard "pone" in a long time!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
This made me laugh
.
A nice good belly laugh.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
Aw, man!!!
Hilarious!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Heh…
I gotta wonder what happened to the lion.
I finally got the beast towed to the dealer to figure out why it won’t start. It’s 3 years old and has been in the shop twice already. My Mazda was much older and it’s probably still going strong.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
What make and model is
The Beast?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
It’s a Nissan Armarda
I got a so I could tow a bigger trailer than the Mazda could here towed. It’s really the Sam car because she’s not that comfortable in the car with the top up which I have to do if I drive long distances and on faster roads. It’s just not safe for her if the top is down. It’s why I take the backroads when she is with me.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
I hope it is still
under warranty. Dealerships always jack up prices more than independent mechanic shops.
I hope it is a simple problem with a quick fix. Sam needs her better ride.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
It’s a simple fix and it will be done
this afternoon. Good because I need to get the trailer ready unless gas goes skyward.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
When will you start
your camping trips?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
When the campgrounds open
and the snow melts in the high country. The mountains had an excellent winter even though the valley got mostly rain. I keep thinking I’ll go down south, but everywhere is so crowded now. Reservations to get into the Arches parking lot. Zion is out of the question because of the crowds.
It costs hundreds of dollars to go into the high mountains. Much less coming back down…
But there is a great stretch of lonely road going through a mostly unpopulated area of Wyoming. Sometimes I’m the only person on the road. I often think of the cowboys and Indians crossing the territory on horses. It must have taken them days that I cross in less than an hour.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
I have wonderful memories of
Wyoming. Just one trip there.
It was gorgeous, and the locals were wonderful. I considered moving there back in the late 90s.
I was driving along, topped a hill, and had to slam on my brakes when I saw some drovers were herding cattle in the highway. They helped me ease through the big herd. Nice guys. Not often you get accompanied by handsome cowboys riding nice hosses.
I envy you for your trips! You are so close to paradise!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Patsy
It’s amazing how Patsy Cline could put more feeling into a song than I imagine even the writer knew existed. I played one of her CD’s so many times I should’ve gotten tired of it but never did.
Anya
Agreed
Patsy could sing. I grew up listening to her and Saturday was house cleaning day, but she helped make it fun. Even after I moved away I played her music. And Bobby Vinton.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
Here's a good one
for house cleaning:
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Cline was simply
all that. If you wear out the cd, go get a new one.
Hope everything is going well in your neck of the woods.
We are due to get a sever thunderstorm exactly during the hours of the political gathering. We will go, but may not stay very long, as there is a bridge between us and the party place that tends to flood.
Have a fun day, Anya!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
She could indeed.
Pretty tumultuous personal life. Never have gotten to see this bio-pic movie
(she's played by Jessica Lang).
Her relationship with Loretta Lynn figures in Coal Miner's Daughter movie, too. (she's played by Beverly D'Angelo).
Have seen and highly recommend that one for anyone who hasn't seen it !
Interesting!
How did I miss that movie?
Should be worth the watch!
Thanks, pal.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
your dirty underwear story is funny
-
it is crazy what people seem to value
truth is considered foreign influence, world peace is a threat to national security
Good afternoon and good song, QMS!
One more underwear story.
Over 25 yrs ago, a young couple were divorcing, and the fight was about child custody, not assets.
My client was the wife/mom. Husband/dad was from a prominent family.
In order to make sure the judge understood the problem, we offered into evidence the guy's favorite lace trimmed underwear, matching bra, and spike heeled dressy shoes. This was his favorite attire when at home.
The ultra conservative judge was not amused, gave my client custody, gave dad visitation only if supervised by an adult relative.
He got pissed about being outed, ran to his truck, laid his rifle barrel in the driver's window, circled the court house until police finally surrounded him. Meanwhile, my client and I were in the judge's chambers lying on the floor. Big windows on the outer wall of the room.
This lasted 30 minutes. I was given police protection from the courthouse to my home. 4 cop cars, in fron, to the rear, and both sides. They stayed with me until I got into my home. I was told, shoot first, then call 911.
What I dread is having a fight in open court about who gets the underwear and what value is placed on it by the husband. So far, he doesn't seem to be fixated on the underwear.
The current sheriff hates my guts, so I can't count on protection now.
Have a great weekend, my dear friend!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
SMH! I imagine that the Democrats are the ones waving the
flags.
In the expanded view you can see Marjorie Taylor Greene (lower middle of the video) expressing her thoughts.
a stopped clock is right
twice a day.
What a world it is when I agree with MTG!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Western influence is melting in Africa
-
-
The colonial powers are being kicked out, one country after another.
Now it is Niger to join their neighbors in this push.
US to pull troops from Niger
The African nation shredded a military agreement with Washington last month
https://www.rt.com/africa/596309-us-troops-withdraw-niger/
Wonder why Russia is a better alternative?
truth is considered foreign influence, world peace is a threat to national security
One word:
Yaah!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
America is responsible for the new terrorists in Somalia
and other areas there because they killed Gaddaffi who did a great job holding terrorists in check. After Libya was destroyed so were its borders and terrorists flooded into other areas. Great job you Hellabitch and Obama. Everything America does turns to sh*t.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
Good evening otc et. al. Way late to the show. Assorted
hardware issues. Speaking of hardware, the ukies are gonna get some more net of all the graft, and Congress people greeted this idiocy with a sophomoric chant that only lacked pom-poms for the cheerleaders. This childish type of phenomena is all too present in all US affairs of all kinds. I propose we replace the star bungled banana with the following:
dizzgusting, really.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Perfect damn anthem for
the perpetually childish idiots in elected office. Their theatrics at the vote is embarrassing as hell.
I am very pissed at that aid bill, but very, very pissed about the FISA bill.
I will soon speak into the pc monitor with a loud "fuck you!" to the spies each time I send an email or post anything on any website.
We skipped out on the political gathering due to weather. In honor of the winner, who was feted with a catered spaghetti dinner, we are having spaghetti tonight.
Wonderful, since Dear One does the cooking, and my sous chef tasks take 2 minutes. Heh...I never argue when he suggests spaghet...
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
By strange coincidence, tonight I made Pasta fazool. n/t
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
great minds
blah blah blah
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
MoA comment
.
Someone posted this screenshot.
Lots of discussion on the 3rd page from yesterday’s article.
Damn scary if true.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
Would not be surprised in the least
-
-
The IDF butchers have no moral conscience.
If RUS did take out a nuke, good for us.
Just wonder what happened to the payload?
Just sitting in the sand in Saudi Arabia?
Sounds unlikely. But who knows?
truth is considered foreign influence, world peace is a threat to national security
Just wonder what happened to the payload?
That’s part of the discussion over there. Since Pepe is the source then I think the likely hood of it being true is better than false, but who knows? Israel would be a pariah and lose all kinds of support if they did that. And how dangerous would it be for a nuclear plant to lose power? But if this is true then I want the word to get out. Hopefully Israel’s criminal enablers would rethink their support.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
Larry Johnson
Pepe Escobar Ignites Social Media
See article for the rest.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
More discussion of this on MoA tonight
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/04/palestine-open-thread-2024-115.htm...
Pepe posted it to the Twit too.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
Time will tell.
Pepe isn't one to rely on unreliable sources. He must have felt confident to report this bombshell. (at least the one on the plane didn't explode, if it exists)
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Dammit!
Some humans do not believe other humans should exist.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
It's worse than that
They think their own tribe are the only humans. Paleolithic thinking at its Lowest Common Denominator - aka "Hate Speech".
We got one of those on Geni (genealogical site I hang out on), stuffed full of "Black Studies Run Amok". It seems there's a lunatic fringe full of Young Earth Creationists to whom it is an article of faith that "everybody" was Black until very recent history (they're not consistent with themselves, let alone each other, as to how recently), and they claim a Vast International Conspiracy To Suppress The Truth and yada yada yada. This particular twit expressed the opinion that melanin is essential to being human and "the more melanin you have, the more human you are". He got called out for Hate Speech, the offending statements (there were more of them than just that one) were deleted, the discussion was locked...but the twit was not banned even though Hate Speech is explicitly against the Terms of Use. Double standard?
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Double standard
fer shure.
Did you ever think you would engage in a discussion about
the definition of who or what is a human?
The blacks coming after me are welcome to see my genetic testing results which show I am 12% black.
I am a sistah, despite my appearance. Native Americans can see my 12% Cherokee, before they come after me.
Can't judge a book by it's cover sort of thing.
Have a great weekend, and my respect for you spending time on those sorts of websites is very great.
Take care, pal!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
The twit on Geni was an anomaly
Most of the users and staff are serious genealogical researchers. It's just that the site attracts the occasional head case, probably because it's relatively easy to use. We've had royalty-wannabes (now and then), wannabe-related-to-Robert E. Lee (one or two), and, always, people just getting started on genealogy who have a whole lot to learn.
But this character took the cake, the icing, and all the candles. :-O
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Yeah...
who doesn't want to be a descendant of the "great Robert E. Lee?
There has to be one nut job or complete dick head on any site, at least from time to time, just to keep people alert.
4th grade science: We studied the Bell Curve, not what you see when you google it today. We sat through science classes, looked at the screen, saw pictures and diagrams projected, showing how the back of the head of Negro was curved, protruding outward, how their foreheads were flat, and how that made them incapable of high intelligence, and much closer to "their" ancestors, the apes. Melanin kept them from getting sun burned, making them the perfect farm worker. Diagrams showing their lips, hips, and noses clearly reflected their genetic closeness to apes.
4 years later, our school was integrated.
The only Negro given any attention positively in all of my public school ed was George Washington Carver, and only because all local farmers grew peanuts as crop rotation to enrich the soil, and as a draw for cheap black labor.
The term Negro was replaced by black when I was almost done with college.
There is good reason why old Southern red necks think they are superior.
Are you a mutt, as I am, or from European stock?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Mostly-Euro mutt
25% Italian, and I even know from which little South Italian hill town. 75% this-and-that, Anglo, Irish, German, who-knows-what. (There's the usual rumor of Native ancestry, but I haven't found any yet.)
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Northern England, German,
and the Native/Black is my mix. My last name sounds Scottish, family lore said it was Irish. That was bull shit, but the family lore about the marriage of the Louisiana Cherokee woman marrying the Reconstruction Freedman proved true.
It is fascinating to go exploring our ancestry. Wish I had more time to devote to the search.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981