@gjohnsit are you insulted because you Are an authoritarian douchebag or not?
I’m confused.
And I backed up my tool query with actual Full statements you made in the op. Punctuation included.
Did you afford me the same courtesy? Nay nay!

And the person who’s Obsessing(reading comprehension, Again) is the person who’s last three or four post have been about the’rona.
Rona and Ukraine
Rona and Chernobyl
America is leaving Rona behind
THAT’S not Obsessive? Obsessive, not offensive. Again with the reading comprehension! Oye vei!

You might wonder why I even respond?
I respond to dogshit, or in this case Bullshit. To pick it up if it’s mine or to point it out to others so they May not step in it as a courtesy

Do I do this in a genteel fashion? Of course Not!

Dogshit here! Don’t step in it! Some ASSHOLE didn’t clean up after his dog! Don’t step in it!

Consider yourself insulted with this, if I’m gonna tweak ya, you’ll know it.

#2
So I'm the one being offensive, huh? I'm the one trolling, huh?
Let's look at your comments to my last essay.

Personal attacks
Dude, are you really this big a tool for the establishment?
like other posters that spew bullshit in Really Obvious ways

Slanders
Gaslight to the Max, Baby!

Insults
Well, here’s where you Will be told to cordially Fuck Off any AND All would be authoritarian douchbags
Apologies to actual douchebags performing a service.

Note that despite all of this cr*p I didn't once respond with a personal insult or slander.
But I'M the one being offensive!
It's responses like yours that makes me convinced that I'm on the right track and that you are the one spreading disinformation and propaganda.

@JtC or his last post @JtC about the covidian cult still pushing jabs that are killing people left right and center? Color me confused ‘cause I thought I was incompany of people Against that?

And way to post Partial statements Out of Context to rise up the host
GJ while Still not address my points

And just to be clear(even if I gotta sit in the corner, again)

If you Are pushing for the Jabs you’re either an Enemy of Humanity or a fuckin’ idjit
Makes no difference to me.

If you’re pushing for more weapons to Ukraine
Same same

Please excuse me while Johnny puts me in time out

And I was Serious about the bong rip GJ you’re a little Too tight

edit for spelling

#2
TB&U.

@gjohnsit

You bring in things that you have heard other people outside this site say and act like we were the ones that said it. If you have proof that people here have said what you wrote above it’s on you to show the proof of that. I don’t remember anyone here saying that it’s only the elderly dying so that’s okay.

This especially:

When COVID deaths skyrocketed Team Skeptic downplayed this, and still do. Even to the point of slandering working-class nurses as "Twitter Nurses" and buying into konspiracy theories. While Team Vaccine felt obliged to not believe any criticism of the COVID response at all.

I’m guessing you are referring to all the tik tok videos of nurses dancing after people were told that hospitals were overwhelmed and nurses too tired to anything after their shifts? Yeah I don’t remember ever seeing that posted here. The one video of dancing nurses that I posted was to make fun of the White House having a great shindig while many people were trying to make ends meet. And I don’t remember anyone signing up to be on one team or another. Paint us honestly and stop bringing in stuff from other sites.

#3
I have/had all sorts of problems with the COVID response, but instead I became "an establishment tool". Why? Because this is all about the culture war.

For examples:

1) The cost of the lockdowns fell disproportionately upon the working class, while the upper-middle class paid almost no price. This is a big deal.
What was the take from Team Skeptic? To invent derogatory terms for people that could telecommute, like "laptop class". IOW, to hate the upper-middle class rather than questioning the priorities of our capitalist society.
And from Team Vaccine? TINA.
My skepticism doesn't fall into culture war narrative, so it gets dismissed.

2) When COVID starting spreading the government made no attempt to do mass testing. The cost of a private test was in the thousands of dollars. And when the government finally started free testing, they offered no way to pay for the massive costs of being treated. This was a moment to highlight and reform our insane private health care system.
Team Skeptic response: It's only dangerous to the old and the sick, so you don't have to worry.
Team Vaccine response: Trump Bad.
My skepticism doesn't fall into culture war narrative again.

Notice that my takes had clearly identifiable issues and logical (although unlikely) reforms.
Team Skeptic and Team Vaccine both led us into armed camps.

After that both sides hardened their opinions and refused to consider anything but highly biased data. And why not? It's a culture war issue first and foremost. That's what you are supposed to do in a culture war.

3) When COVID deaths skyrocketed Team Skeptic downplayed this, and still do. Even to the point of slandering working-class nurses as "Twitter Nurses" and buying into konspiracy theories. While Team Vaccine felt obliged to not believe any criticism of the COVID response at all.

So when the vaccines got rolled out you were either a slack-jawed moron, or an authoritarian shitlib. And that dividing line was clearly demarcated on whether you allowed yourself to be "needle-raped".
I personally waited for maybe 4 to 6 months after the vaccine got rolled out, and when I went to get it I asked for the Cuban vaccines (which they not surprisingly didn't have because capitalism). I've repeatedly pointed out that the Cuban vaccines are NOT mRNA vaccines, but I haven't met a single member of Team Skeptic that has cared in the slightest about that. And why should they, since this is a culture war issue, not a health care issue.

It's because of this that I want to see this issue go away - because it is damaging in every way.
It's damaging to society. It's damaging to our health care system. It's damaging to debate right here.

@Tall Bald and Ugly

as to how we the people hold our elected (or appointed) representatives accountable?
Won't be the press, demonstrations seem to produce little results, opinion polls are
rigged and science is misquoted or ignored. It is becoming more obvious the ruling
elites run the show, and we are just paying passengers on this train to oblivion.

Thanks for speaking up.

but I’m going to agree #5 100%
more if I could

My experience follows a not dis-similar path

I don’t care about their reasons, their conspiracies(theories or not) their fucked up culture(or just plain cult) wars Least of all what political stripe(like a skunks, down the back)

The shitty response Killed people

The jabs Are killing people

More weapons to Ukraine will kill All the people

Seems pretty kiss to me

How do we hold the assholes that be accountable is the only question I have for the moment

Please, feel free to disagree. . .

@Pluto's Republic The continuous work done at the site is pretty amazing. I had not kept up on the large number of treatments being evaluated with various mechanism of actions.

#8

....compiled hourly on this anonymous scientific website:

https://c19early.org

An important research tool, if you don't already have it.

@Pluto's Republic

I agree that the CDC and others used to produce good studies, but not since big pharma got so powerful. When someone pays you to approve your product how non biased can you be? And the fact that Fauci and others get royalties from the products they approve should be another warning sign imo. As Dr. Bhakdi pointed out in the video animal studies on reproduction weren’t done nor were pregnant women included in the studies and yet Walensky and doctor organizations for women insisted that they were safe for them to get at any stage in their pregnancy. Not one of them pointed out after Pfizer was forced to release their papers said anything about how women in the trials were told not to get pregnant and take every precaution against it. Men were also told to wear protection. Pfizer knew. Any health person who read the report before giving authorization knew that they were not tested on pregnant women for safety or what they would do to the fetus.

Dr. Yeadon:

Specifically in relation to pregnant women, we NEVER ever give experimental medical interventions to pregnant women. Not even in cases where she might benefit. Prior to even contemplating that act, we demand full reproductive toxicology reports, in two species. Also, a huge amount of anecdotal evidence from non-pregnant patients and usually some from inadvertently dosed pregnant women. Only then. So blasting all pregnant women using lies to back it up? Censorship & smearing of those simply reminding people what we have done since thalidomide (60 years+) is appropriate? No. It’s more evidence of malign acts of unconscionable evil.
….I point out in this rhetorical question: “What’s the right number of times your health officials & government should lie to you about matters that affect your health, life & liberty?” Obviously it’s ZERO. I don’t mean mistakes or ignorance. I mean knowingly telling untruthful things.

Anyone remember what happened to the children of women who took thalidomide? And one other drug which name escapes me that caused horrific birth defects?

Comment on this article by an obstetrician who just completed a study on women who have been jabbed.

There have been many doctors who have been trying to bring attention to the problems they are seeing that have had their licenses suspended and privileges removed and even some who have been prosecuted for doing it. Both here at home and across the pond. Debate should be encouraged not stifled.

#11

Your insights into what's going on seem solid to me. There is certainly significant distrust of US public health agencies. But like so many other realities, few in the public eye would dare point them out. That could make them a target.

The NIH and CDC, historically, have produced a lot of important studies and records about diseases, public health, health safety, and health research. A centralized system for health data works well for them. Conversely, national Public Health practices are flawed for the same reason; they are largely centralized and don't have much direct rapport with people, at the state level. Whatever state politicians decide to dish out is the only standard of public health the people will ever know. These days the 'Republic' system puts the states in an adversarial relationship with the Federal Government. (Plus, each new administration feels like a 'regime-change coup' to approximately half the population.) As for the FDA, the obvious corruption is probably the best you're going to get in a capitalism-based government.

It's never a good time for a national health crisis. But now, due to a number of entangled factors, every decision the United States makes is a bad decision, with many adverse consequences.

People have to strengthen their community relationships and adapt to trickle-down problems as fast as they can. The Federal Government is a rogue entity. Maintain a low public profile. The algorithms are watching.