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The Movie "Oppenheimer", due to be released in July is getting much fanfare as a classic American Hero saga celebrating the struggle to create a weapon to end WW2.
Will Oppenheimer, played by Cillian Murphy, be portrayed as a hero or a reluctant and tragic character haunted by his creation?
Today we know there was no need to vaporize Nagasaki or Hiroshima as it served no military purpose, other than to show the world how badass we were. America - f_ _ k yeah!
But since the Swamp has this penchant for re-writing history, especially through the lens of Hollywood, he is sure to be projected as a true-blue American Hero.
It will be released in July of 2023, but I'm not sure I will waste my last remaining good dollars on more pseudo-history or slanted hero worship.
Guardians of the Galaxy is much more entertaining.
I've seen the rework done on "Patton", who was exposed as something less than heroic by modern historians such as Andrei Martyanov.
The accolades given to Reagan, for starting the freefall of American rules and regulations on big business, were wholly unearned.
Obama, given the Nobel peace prize for starting wars in three countries and a threatening pivot towards China was an insult on all former recipients.
And the infamous Stephan Bandera, given the honor of omission in the Ukraine debacle. Can't wait for the "Nazi Lives Matter" signs being swung thru the streets of world capitals.
The recent revelations of the blatant fraud of House Representative George Santos fabricating his entire life, is welcomed to government and given committee assignments. Apparently, he is considered well qualified by Republicans and Democrats.
Birds of a feather........
And don't get me started on the burgeoning "failing up" trend happening in government and business. Wish that would trickle down to the working class.
Naw, we just need to stop that practice immediately.
The cancer of greed and corruption is infused in governments throughout the western world and is becoming idolized as right and desirable, the "rules based order".
This charade is leading us to extinction.
The younger generations haven't a clue what real war against real peer opponents is like.
They may soon find out. But don't blink, you could miss it.
End rant.
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Perhaps one can notice the slight difference in the greeting?

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earthling1's picture

@humphrey
that MBS has a clue what side of his bread has the butter?
Or else he thinks Dementia is contagious.
Thanks for the clips.

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Cillian Murphy's face seems to have been optimized from birth to convey pathos, and the historical truth was that Oppenheimer was very much haunted by what had been done in the rush to the bomb. That was multiplied by a factor of ten once the government started hounding him after the Trinity work was done.

I can't imagine Murphy doing a happy-happy-joy-joy thing. But I'll bet that any whitewashing that is done will be to expunge the way Oppenheimer was treated once he had exceeded his usefulness, and the effort was redirected to implement Teller's "super" (the hydrogen bomb, which Oppenheimer rather vehemently opposed as being unnecessary) at all costs. Betcha they don't say a word about his supposed "Communist sympathies", or the way he was summarily stripped of and barred from any further opportunities for work in the field afterwards.

I had the pleasure of taking an undergraduate high energy physics class from Vera Kistiakowsky, who was (along with her Ukranian husband father George) on Oppenheimer's staff during the race to the Gadget. She had a lot to say about his mental state after the Trinity test: it was a brutal thing for all of them. She confirmed that he quoted the Bhagavad Gita privately among the team after the shot, long before making this well-known public statement:

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This was not a happy man. I don't see them Adam-Sandlerizing this, somehow.

On edit; you can tell how long ago this was: my memory is well corrupted. Vera was George's *daughter*, not his wife. And she was present at Los Alamos for most of the process, but not on staff. Thus her memories were accurate- but mine weren't...

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

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@usefewersyllables I was looking forward to this.

Hollywood movies take a long time to make; hopefully that means this'll effectively be a pre-FEB/2022 time-capsule of serendipitous sobriety.

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

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@usefewersyllables
chance they include that "I am death" quote from RO.
Thanks for the background info. You were blessed with a unique professor of unusual insight.
It must have been soul destroying to have to develop such a weapon.
If only people like Fauci could feel humbleness and horror with what they unleash on humanity.
Thanks for the clip and the reminder of what is at stake.

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@humphrey
The French have always been called the surrender monkeys, and America is the home of the brave.
And black is white, up is down, and slavery is freedom.
Where have I heard that before?
Humm.
I actually still have my Yellow vest from years ago when I was anticipating a movement springing up here.
I saved it, although I don't know why.
I guess I could put it in my car in case I have to change a tire or something.

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@earthling1

victory at Yorktown and Cornwallis' surrender.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@enhydra lutris
Russia's rescue of America multiple times. Yet we keep wanting to knock them down.
Russia even tried to join NATO twice, once at Yalta in 1946, iirc, and recently after the fall of the USSR.
Rebuffed both times. It's pretty clear we want Russia's milk shake.

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the CIA in movies. Production advisors, script advisors, and so on. As long ago as that has been, I remember it because the article described the CIA's involvement in the filming of "Hello Dolly!"
The shock of them infiltrating a damn musical was what blew me away.
If they can advise on a musical, just imagine how muscular they will be inserting propaganda in this Oppenheimer film.
You folks go first, let us know how impressed by the beauty and majesty of the bomb you were. I will wait on your reviews before I get a ticket.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@on the cusp
I a longtime fan of Ken Burns documentaries until his Vietnam War series and the complete omission of the CIA involvement. It changed my perspective of his past works entirely.
I guess their tenacles reach far and wide.
As an addendum, The Vinyard of the Saker (Andrei Raevsky) is shutting down at the end of February. I for one will miss him and the contributing community that blessed his blog.
Although he notes that his family needs more of his time and his health is a concern, his fear that the US government may revoke his status here should the West go to war with Russia. Although he is a Swiss native.
Thanks for stopping by, OTC

Standard disclaimer: (raises right hand) I am a tax paying, law abiding, natural born citizen of the United States of America who loves his country and would never commit to the violent overthrow of said government, ever, so help me Allah.

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@earthling1 The silver lining to that dark cloud is that amarynth (one of the Saker staff) is now running her own blog off of the Saker site at:

https://thesakeris.global/

while the rest of the original blog stays up as an archive. So there will still be good content coming out, but with a somewhat different focus.

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@on the cusp Just watch this

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

enhydra lutris's picture

in 2 days plus one more next wednesday. Heh, tears the hell out of the day, it does. I fear that regardless of the message Oppenheimer conveys, or how well and persuasively it does it, the war party will remani firmly entrenched in power in the US of War.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@enhydra lutris
I have a really gentle dentist, but I still can't stand the needle work and ultrasound. Multiple days in the chair must be excruciating. Heal well and fast.

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It is only offensive to the western war mongers.

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@humphrey The recruitment goons showed up in some village. All the "eligible" men that could be taken and sent to their deaths were all gone. Funny that. The Ukraine government wants EU governments with male refugees to forcibly send men of "draft age" back to the Ukraine.

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@humphrey
It's about Freedumb and Democracy, ok?
They are also rounding them up in other countries and shipping them back to go to the frontlines.
It's no wonder we are seeing less Ukraine advocates on the overpasses and shopping centers here in America.
Thanks for that video.

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If this doesn't turn out to be a pro-war movie, I would be surprised. Oh, it won't be ugly and overt, but sensitive and justifying the necessity of the task to save the world. Twice over.

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@MrWebster
an it will probably be a blockbuster.
Heh. It's all Hollywood knows.
Thanks for the post.

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And don't forget - more weapons leads to peace.

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@crescentmoon
some Euro underling said something to that effect.
"We must send Ukraine weapons to win the peace".
Or some such. I've got to go barf.
Thanks for the post.

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earthling1's picture

Had to go run some limbs through the chipper to relieve stress.
Yes, tree limbs for crimea sakes!
Although......

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