Scott Ritter on Tank Realities
Ritter provides detailed information on the reality of tank warfare in Ukraine, as well as the maintenance nightmare as described by American veterans.
He also gives a history of the Banderite fascist Nazi armed groups supported by the U.S., starting with the CIA after WWII.
The most memorable part of this vital piece by Ritter is a quotation of remarks by Petr Bystron in the German Parliament.
SCOTT RITTER: The Nightmare of NATO Equipment Being Sent to Ukraine
January 24, 2023
... German History & Optics
The Ramstein meeting was hampered by concern within the German Parliament over the optics associated with Germany providing tanks which would be used to fight Russians in Ukraine.
This angst was perhaps best captured by Petr Bystron of the right-wing Alternative for Germany party. “German tanks [fighting] against Russia in Ukraine,” Bystron challenged his colleagues, “remember, your grandfathers tried to do the same trick, together with [Ukrainian nationalists] Melnik, Bandera and their supporters.
“The result was immense suffering, millions of casualties on both sides and, eventually, Russian tanks came here, to Berlin. Two of those tanks remain on permanent display nearby, and you must keep this in mind when you pass them by every morning,” Bystron said, referring to the two Soviet T-34 tanks at the Tiergarten memorial to fallen Soviet soldiers...
History is on the side of the Russians.
How long did the following countries last before they surrendered to Nazi Germany in WW2?
Netherlands: 5 days
France: 6 weeks
Belgium: 18 days
Denmark: 6 hours
The USSR fought the Nazis for 1418 days and were victorious
this tank deal is not going to go well for the Germans
Looks like Poland will do OK though.
Insensible. There is little forethought here.
This may actually be the deal breaker.
EU in shatters. No more NATO. And still
the US can't win. Heh
as I have said before --
"The cost of sanity in this society is a certain level of alienation." -- Terrence McKenna
And a number of those groups contributed men for the Nazi army
I found this interesting that I came across while looking for
something else. Not quite sure of its significance.
Wow, I guess the Woke
haven't woken up yet in Finland.
Allegiances can be a strange and powerful thing, even if not necessarily of mutual benefit.
I was quite surprised by Germany's decision to send tanks to Ukraine. I wish Germany had honoured the Mana it achieved for trying to right wrongs. I hope it hasn't all gone down the drain.
I was reading a live report of this year's....
....March of the Immortals by Dmitry Orlov, a Russian American writer who is staying in Russia to witness this conflict first hand. Orlov had also visited Russia many times during the Russian collapse in the 1990's, and has written several books that projected that the US will be entering the same collapse right about now. But with far fewer resources and security.
The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Thanks great essay.
what is it that scares the collective west about Russia
to such an insane degree? Is this
PenisPutin envy or what?
Why fight what you can't control? Look at the real enemy here, Nazi Neo-
cons are a much better target if you gotta fight.
The Russians believe that this Western insanity
...is a continuation of the Crusades. It's a religious obsession on the part of the Western Christofacists. According to Dmitry Orlov:
This war started over a thousand years ago. This is actually true. Ukraine is merely a battlefield of irrelevant bystanders. Nobody wants Ukraine. The IMF and Russia begged each other for years to take Ukraine. They both begged the EU to adopt the basket case. But Ukraine is a moral and economic black hole that cannot be reformed. Meanwhile, Americans have little to no history to guide them. What's there is largely a propaganda narrative. The current geopolitical reality goes right over their heads. As citizens, they have no agency and they are economically insecure. The US is essentially a large concrete industrial park surrounded by a plantation, held together by a mid-century modern infrastructure. The US is the incarceration capital of the World, because incarceration is the only solution for a failed state and untethered society. The official language of the US is DoubleSpeak.
The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
the conquistadors have been in the business of pillaging for eons
in the name of god or democracy, conquest is the purpose of these
greedy sponges. It is apparent present day countries and societies
no longer adhere to such past norms.
Christendom as Jay Gatsby
Unable to let go of a glorious self-image based in the past, we wind up face down in our opulent estate's swimming pool.
I don't quite buy it as an explanation of our suicidal crusade against Putin, but it is a compelling idea as a contributing element.
I still believe that this bizarre adventure is part of a bigger globalization project that requires the end of the Anglo-American Era of world history. There might not be any meaningful distinction between the two conceptions.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
Orlov's Reinventing Collapse is pertinent today
as it describes his experience of the last oligarchic days of the Soviet republic. Now I see many similarities I hadn't personally felt before.
Example: He mentions some older women who owned similar sets of dishes and in order to speak freely would describe what was happening to these as a way of translating to each other current real-life or financial events otherwise dangerous to mention. And his description of the comtempt oligarchs had for people who did any work at all work rings true now as well.
TheNewAtlas as a good discussion on the M1Abrams
He goes over two articles written by US military officers over the problems that have to be overcome by the Ukrainians.
Thank you Linda, for an interesting read
and for the commentary it evoked.
Thank you, janis.
I am so shaken by a video I saw today, from a link at MofA, of Ukrainian forces dragging a young man from his home as his little boy tried to save him and Ukrainian forces knocked the little boy down, I am despondent and screaming to myself, how are we going to stop this? What are we going to do to stop this? I wish we could have a forum here just dedicated to that question.
I think if there's a solution to be found suggestions from those here would be sound ones. Often though the way seems insurmountable, leading one to a feeling of despondency and lament.
That was on a Telegram
Horrifying and heartbreaking as the young boy tried to peel the soldiers off his Dad.
Scott has it right
Alexander Mercouris has it right.
100 tanks to Ukraine will not change a thing.
Russia has 12,000 tanks on hand and is building 1,000 new up-to-the minute tanks per year.
Spitting in the wind, all the brouhaha about tanks that will be wiped out by Russian fire as soon as they get to Ukraine. Just as the 3,000? previous tanks have been taken out of service.
The endless celebrating about tanks is the Current Distraction from reality.
Which may be what we have all talked about---Ukraine is Losing.
Or it may be something else entirely, as The Duran guys speculated yesterday. The tanks are to build up Poland's front line for the day when Ukraine is Partitioned and the USA's 20,000 troops stationed in Poland join the Polish military to secure what they used to call Galicia.
One essay I read today said that Russia has already
destroyed close to 4,000 tanks and lots more of the other equipment that has been sent over there. One thing to keep in mind is that NATO countries have disarmed themselves and now have fewer ways to protect themselves. From what is the question. Plus there’s all the money our defense companies are going to make because they will replace the equipment that Russia has destroyed. It’s why not too many congress members complained about that $80 billion of equipment we left in Afghanistan. Might be why we bugged out so quickly. I’m impatiently waiting for the day Americans stand up to congress for spending hundreds of billions on weapons of death and destruction instead of spending it on making our lives better.
As a kid I thought that the world of the Jetsons could be possible, but last week I saw how billions of dollars were spent on the next phase of deadly automated weapons that will bring their makers tons of money. Just think what could have been if we hadn’t been so propagandized.
I feel like I’m riding in the backseat of a '66 Thunderbird with Thelma at the wheel and Louise riding shotgun whilst heading towards a cliff.
Nothing matters except the drive for profit.