Open Thread WE 28 DEC 22 ~ Cosmos


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“For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.”
― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

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Welcome to Wednesday. Have had this theory for many moons that the smallest things measurable and the
largest things measurable are at once the same. All else is incremental. Any perspectives?

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“Everybody has a little bit of the sun and moon in them. Everybody has a little bit of man, woman, and animal in them. Darks and lights in them. Everyone is part of a connected cosmic system. Part earth and sea, wind and fire, with some salt and dust swimming in them. We have a universe within ourselves that mimics the universe outside. None of us are just black or white, or never wrong and always right. No one. No one exists without polarities. Everybody has good and bad forces working with them, against them, and within them."

PART SUN AND MOON by Suzy Kassem

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The journey from one end to the other is where we are. Some see it as a blip, a gradient, a wave
or an illusion. Where do you find yourself today?

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Credits ~
Pillars of Creation photos taken by NASA's James Webb Space
Telescope capturing a small portion of the Eagle Nebula in the constellation
Serpens 6500 light years from earth

https://www.thisiscolossal.com/2022/12/james-webb-pillars-of-creation-co...

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Fiddling with year-end business today.

Some interesting anniversary items ..

1612 First observation of Neptune - Galileo observes and records a "fixed star"
with out realising it is a planet
1732 Benjamin Franklin under the pseudonym Richard Saunders begins publication of
"Poor Richard's Almanack"
1860 Harriet Tubman arrives in Auburn, New York, on her last mission to free slaves, having evaded capture for 8 years on the Underground Railroad
1912 1st municipally owned streetcars take to the streets in San Francisco, California as SF Municipal Railway starts operation at Geary St (MUNI)
1945 Congress officially recognizes "Pledge of Allegiance"
1956 Miss Frances [Horwich], last Ding Dong School on NBC-TV
1968 100,000 attend Miami Pop Festival; performers included: The Jimi Hendrix Experience; The Mothers of Invention; Chuck Berry; John Lee Hooker; The Crazy World of Arthur Brown; and Blues Image
1985 Warring Lebanese Muslim & Christian leaders sign peace agreement
2005 A U.S. immigration judge orders John Demjanjuk deported to Ukraine for crimes against humanity committed during World War II.

enjoy your day

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TLOML could spend all day and all night in a cosmos chat.
My public school was firmly entrenched with administrators and teachers who were also Sunday School teachers. When science came up with theories that couldn't be explained by the Bible, or, contradicted the Good Book,the classrooms went silent. The theory of evolution was mentioned, but brushed off in favor of God's word as the Truth.
Thus, I missed out on much of Sagan's Cosmos, and all the beautiful ideas it contained. I missed out on that gorgeous photo, so thanks for introducing it to me.
This is the week I typically write checks to various charities. I am stepping back. So many are somehow in league with the WEF. Even Jane Goodall spoke at a WEF meeting, declared depopulation was the answer to saving gorillas.* Several giant wildlife charities work hand in hand with Industrial agriculture, especially Gates.
I will lose that deduction, but will have something left in case a friend needs groceries or money for a utility bill.
Take good care, and Q, I hope you are fully recovered from your recent illness.
*edit: I agree with the content of her statement to some degree. It was where she was, and with whom she was associating that upset me. Those weffers imagine they know who shall live, who shall die. Those rich geniuses know the exact number of humans that should populate the earth, although they have not shown the science behind it, nor the way to achieve it.
Fuck them all, just for good measure.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp

and who shall die. This segues well into a related topic I will post on the Dose.

Thanks for chiming in today!

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@QMS relates to massive depopulation. And they are extremely intertwined with WHO and The Bill and Linda Gates Foundation.
Glad you posted the OT, and I look forward to your Dose, friend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp

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@on the cusp over the last umpteen years or so is sale of the idea that the end justifies the means. And that this facturd becomes the rule that everyone should follow for interacting in our society.

Up in the cloudy areas I have no idea what the underlying motives might be (I think it's power and hubris) but I believe that the end justifies the means is what they sell to so many people to further their goals. And they make very sure that the end they have in mind has a very singular importance. Dam aphasia, importance isn't the right word but I'll spend all day trying to remember a better one. Sorry.

The easiest example is the pro-life crowd. They focus (ahah!) on saving a child and ignore anything that might contradict that belief. No matter who it might hurt along the way.

Or having every living being in Ukr die because we need to stop the communisms.

(on edit) Fixed some grammar.

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@exindy

to the exclusion of branched consequences

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@exindy don't worry about that perfect word that got lost.
Weffers are hell bent and determined to attain a population of 500 million people. No margin, such as 10,000 more or less.
Remember when the world scorned China for attempting to keep families in cities there down to 1 child per family?
Is Trudeau setting the example?
One right winger I read a lot has a great tag line: Do Not Comply.
I should steal it.

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@exindy forgets that each mean is an end in itself.

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@The Hindsight Times

You aren't try to be mean right?
And the self severing is golden.
Thanks!

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@on the cusp Ok, this may be a little self severing but there is a 501(c)(3) charity you can give some money that is in no way connected to any other org let alone the WEF. Full disclosure here, I am the only paid employee for Friends of Maha`ulepu. FOM, as we call it, works to protect and preserve the waters of Kauai, HI. https://friendsofmahaulepu.org/ We post the work of our president, the brilliant and forever vigilant retired blind lawyer, Bridget (Baynes) Hammerquist, to the website. I'm Bridget's assistant behind the computer.

You can check her out giving testimony to the Hawaii Board of Land and Natural Resources on the front page of the website. We may be small but we have had many victories; two examples, stopped an industrial dairy from setting up shop on Kauai and most recently won a unanimous Decision from the State Supreme Court that will change how environmental studies are done in the State. Sure we may recoup some fees but court cases cost money. As you can see if you check out the current and past news, Bridget does incredible work for no compensation. So, if you are inclined, donate to FOM this year!

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@The Hindsight Times I am a "water is life" sort of gal.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp

with love water

[video:https://youtu.be/TT30jj_L1Dc]

having a wonderfully stained sunset sky tonight
peaches, oranges and tangerines fruit colors
with gray outlines
Oh

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@QMS Lots of water of love here. One less thing to worry about! Lol!
It will be my luck just as the sky gets beautiful with the setting sun, it will rain.
More rain tomorrow, too.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@The Hindsight Times

is Mt. Waialeale, once considered the wettest place on earth, and the source of valuable water for the island. Thank you for your effort in helping to prevent further abuse of this diminishing resource caused by climate change and development. I would be happy to contribute a little something.

All the best.

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@janis b

I watched the following discussion with Bridget Hammerquist. What a wonderful example of the potential of local environmental activism and support of sustainable agriculture.

[video:https://youtu.be/3lz4L0XOA6Q]

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It has been a busy week for us.
In this song is a verse that goes "A man looked so far into outer space he saw the back of his head"
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksz6sjxTQ7o&t=20s]

Have fun pondering the cosmos and good luck with your year end chores!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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1968 100,000 attend Miami Pop Festival; performers included: The Jimi Hendrix Experience; The Mothers of Invention; Chuck Berry; John Lee Hooker; The Crazy World of Arthur Brown; and Blues Image

Is there a video about that pop festivaL? Would be nice to watch and listen to it.

Hope you all get better, warmer weather in the North. If I think about Buffalo... oh shit. I had the nerves to send my son there for a year in a boarding school. Never, ever would I do that again.

Do you also always think about what you have done wrong in your life? I do too much.

Well all this shit will end too. Let's hope.

Have a good 'in-between' time and try to relax.

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@mimi
in the wrong thread. Sorry for that.

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@mimi

There were 2 that year in Miami. The second one was today.

https://woodstockwhisperer.info/2015/12/28/1968-miami-pop-festival/

and

https://www.setlist.fm/festival/1968/miami-pop-festival-1968-2-43d6970b....

cheers!

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@QMS

heh, I feel like it today. Wno knows how I feel tomorrow, enjoy as long as it lasts Wink

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@mimi

I do this for a laaving dahling Wink

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lately and am doing some catch-up. My focus has been on small things lately not the Cosmos...but it is one and the same...no? I'm seeing the back of my head as someone said up thread. It is discombobulating...which is par-for-the-course.

Thanks for the interesting OT QMS and for you and all holding down the fort here. What a good bunch of comments on this thread. I have to catch up on your dose and on snoopy's dose as well. Nothing like being selected to be one of the 'important ones' who get the saline jab. h/t Tall-B-&-U.

Hope things are well in the north woods and that you and yours are all good.

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