Open Thread - 04-08-22 - An Announcement About The Dose

Submitted by JtC on Fri, 04/08/2022 - 8:19am

Effective Monday, April 11, The Dose will be suspended. It will be taken under consideration to reinstate if the pandemic flares up again.

If something happens that is covid/pandemic news worthy then folks can write an essay about it. We'll use the same parameters as The Dose, no covid/pandemic essays will be on the front page. The Dose was created in concert with our open discussion policy and as an effort to protect c99 from censorship or outright banning of the site, at least that's what the hope was in keeping it from the front page. I can't prove that the move worked but we (c99) are still standing, so there's that.

We also ask that members not discuss pandemic news in the open threads so as not to penalize the hard work our OT authors put into their essays. If you have something important to say please say it in an essay.

A huge thank you to our open thread authors for stepping up and publishing The Dose whether in agreement with it's content or not. All open thread authors were given the option to post or not to post The Dose and all, in accordance with our policy of tolerance for all sides of an issue, accepted the responsibility.

Thank you.

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A Canticle for Leibowitz - A great novel about post nuclear conflagration that I read back in the 60s, is once again, relevant.

Synopsis:

In the depths of the Utah desert, long after the Flame Deluge has scoured the earth clean, a monk of the Order of Saint Leibowitz has made a miraculous discovery: holy relics from the life of the great saint himself, including the blessed blueprint, the sacred shopping list, and the hallowed shrine of the Fallout Shelter.

In a terrifying age of darkness and decay, these artifacts could be the keys to mankind's salvation. But as the mystery at the core of this groundbreaking novel unfolds, it is the search itself—for meaning, for truth, for love—that offers hope for humanity's rebirth from the ashes.

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The sacred shopping list: “Pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels—bring home for Emma.”

Here we are, possibly on the brink of nuclear war, any lists or notes you want to make for the future of mankind? A list or note worthy of a future religion?

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Submitted by JtC on Fri, 04/08/2022 - 8:27am

purple berries for Leibowitz grocery list?

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Submitted by QMS on Fri, 04/08/2022 - 8:35am
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It may not turn into a religious artifact in the vast wasteland of future civilizations, but seems
relevant for today. Maybe add: feed the birds (if there any left). They are not responsible for
human wars. And: don't feed the oligarchs!

thanks for the OT!

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Submitted by Snode on Fri, 04/08/2022 - 4:33pm

@QMS to the birds. How about Zuckerberg foie gras?

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Submitted by Sima on Sat, 04/09/2022 - 9:21pm
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@Snode
Be trying to poison those innocent birds! Smile Smile . Feed the oligarchs to... hmm, what do I hate enough... other oligarchs!

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Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

Submitted by Lookout on Fri, 04/08/2022 - 9:21am
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Even read the sequel Saint Leibowitz and the wild horse woman.

I wish I could remember the name of the book from the 60s or 70s which painted a utopian future...people living in harmony with one another and the land, but I guess I used up those brain cells holding the name of that book. I do remember Huxley's Island which describes a utopian society.

Had a minor success today. My tractor wouldn't start yesterday. I had been having trouble with the ground connection on the battery. So I bought a new cable. My old one is 30 something YO and this new one is half the thickness, but I replaced it and tested it and everything was showing power....but alas no starting. I left it to come back to this AM, and upon inspection found a loose wire on the solenoid. Refitted it and varoom, back in business. Sometimes the simplest of things cause major issues.

As to the dose. It is curious how in this day of record infections (although low hospitalizations and deaths) the subject has disappeared from public discourse and debate. All eyes are on Ukraine and Russia...such hypocrisy. They kicked Russia off the UN Human Rights council leaving Saudi Arabia, the US and UK still on it. Talk about human rights abusers.

Well, we live in interesting times. Thanks for hosting this thoughtful community to share our amazement. Thanks for the OT!

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Fri, 04/08/2022 - 9:47am
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Shopping list: Beans, Corn, Squash, pointed stick.

Religions; Be here now, Be tathegata, An it harm none do what ye will. Mind your step.

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by Tall Bald and Ugly on Fri, 04/08/2022 - 11:00am

am grateful for the Dose
and this Site

The info provided by Both has been key to me staving off the insanity that has possessed so many in meatspace.
does that make me sane then?
Doubtful

Also, the contributions brought here from other sites has widened the horizon that I now can view
some maybe more outlandish than others but still good info to know about in context with the Dominant Narrative.

the scary part is the number of untimely deaths happening to folks that have ‘blown the whistle’ on said narrative

Seems a little too convenient for the Psychos in power.

Thanks again to All and sundry

head up, eyes open
Always

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Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

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Now you know. . .
sign at protest march

Submitted by humphrey on Fri, 04/08/2022 - 2:29pm

propaganda war! (with plenty of help from its friends)

The latest from a long list questionable claims.

There can be no doubt as to the carnage but the cause has yet to be determined except by the MSM.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-ukrainian-tochka-u-missile-kille...

Worth a full read.

Ukrainian Tochka-U Missile Killed Dozens At Kramatorsk Train Station
The current top headline of the New York Times is:

Live Updates: Russia Strikes Train Station, Ukraine Says, as Thousands Flee From East

“Dozens” were feared dead and injured, a local official said, after a missile strike in Kramatorsk, which had been a main point of evacuation for people trying to leave eastern Ukraine.
CNN quotes an Ukrainian military official who described it as an Iskander missile strike:

Two missiles struck the station, according to the head of Ukraine's national rail system, Oleksandr Kamyshin. Pavlo Kyrylenko, the head of Donetsk regional military administration, said the Russian military used Iskander short-range ballistic missiles.
A pro-Ukrainian twitter account also describes this as a result of the missile attack (the time stamp is UTC+2):

This from a different source.

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Submitted by mimi on Fri, 04/08/2022 - 3:30pm
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thanks so much, JtC, for letting me in. Though I am so sick and tired of all the reporting from Ukraine, Russia, EC, Le Pen (for heaven's sake), I don't wanna look at any of this.

I have to sow some flower seeds and wonder what the best flowers are to attrackt bees and butterflies.

Any suggestion?. We have some butterfly parks in my woods of the world and - shame on me - I didn't know about them and never visited.

It's next on my to do list.

Have a good evening all.

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Submitted by joe shikspack on Fri, 04/08/2022 - 8:47pm
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@mimi

not sure what grows in your zone/continent, but here are some things that work well here:

Buddleia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddleja

Asclepius

https://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=astu

Milkweed

https://www.nwf.org/Garden-for-Wildlife/About/Native-Plants/Milkweed

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Submitted by janis b on Fri, 04/08/2022 - 6:30pm
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With the proposed change, the word ‘covid’ or something related, will now be in the essay title. Might that not bring more unwanted attention than an essay titled 'The Dose’, represented by a lively piece of art by Paul Klee? Just wondering.

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Submitted by Blue Republic on Sat, 04/09/2022 - 5:58am

that is somehow Covid/Plandemic-related...

So much so that it makes me wonder about the effectiveness of attempting to wall it off.

How can, for example, meaningful discussion of the general issue of what is 'science' and of big tech/government censorship take place without reference to Covid-related?

And/or issues of

Bodily autonomy?

Privacy?

Limits of legitimate government authority?

Corporate accountability?

To get down to cases, as it were, where do the following fall in the Covid/Not-Covid delineation?

From Daily Veracity on Ukraine's implementation of (an effectively mandatory) digital ID - in planning for a decade but implementation begun as part of Covid response policy and now justified further by wartime conditions. Yes, it's 'Covid-related' but it is also, to appearances, a whole lot more:

Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the President of Ukraine, has officially rolled out the “E-Governance” social credit iPhone tracking system with the Ukrainian government’s new “Diia app.”

While the technology behind the Diia app has been under development for close to a decade, Zelenskyy has used the guise of COVID lockdowns to integrate the invasive technology into everyday Ukrainian life. Now, the government claims all personal data will go digital by the year 2025.

https://diia.gov.ua
The “Diia” app was designed by a Ukrainian government agency calling itself the “Ministry of Digital Transformation.”

The program is similar to a project funded by the Rockefeller Foundation-backed ID2020 Alliance, with the goal of paving the way for a universal digital wallet with an all-encompassing universal digital ID.

In one article, Journalist Whitney Webb noted that the CEO of the International Rescue Committee developed a pilot program in Myanmar for the digital biometric identification system, supported by the ID2020 alliance. According to Webb, the ID2020 Alliance is backed by Microsoft.

On their manifesto, the ID2020 Alliance describes itself as a ‘Global private-public partnership’ which brings together technologists, advocates, implementers, and funders toward a good digital ID for all.

Under the guise of ‘closing the identity gap’ for the ‘one billion people on earth’ who cannot prove who they are, the ID2020 alliance pledges to pave the way to create a universal digital identification system.

Working in partnership with Facebook, Mastercard, iRespond, Microsoft, Gavi, The Rockefeller Foundation, and others, the ID2020 Alliance says the program will ‘proceed in four phases from mid-2021 to late 2025.’ On their website, they hypothesize that the future ‘biometric digital ID’ will be linked with humans from the point of birth to the point of death.

Or this?

Ruling coalition in Germany suffers major defeat with Bundestag rejecting key proposals for
mandatory vaccination of elderly (mandatory vax for everyone also on their agenda).

This obviously gets into bodily autonomy/government over-reach territory - what jumped out at me though was that while the measure was supported by the Greens (part of the ruling coalition) it was opposed by *both* 'hard' Left and Right. Which seems significant beyond the immediate Covid issue in exposing the general authoritarian drift of Euro Greens as well as a potentially positive trend if cooperation between AfD and Die Linke could extend to other areas such as anti-war efforts.

The plans had faced fierce opposition during a debate in the Bundestag on Thursday morning, with politicians from the AfD, Left Party and CDU/CSU lining up to criticise the bill.

As the results were announced, loud cheers and applause came from AfD politicians seated in the right-hand corner of the Bundestag, as the speaker called on MPs to treat the issue with the “seriousness it warrants”.

MPs also voted against a motion from the opposition CDU/CSU parties that would have mandated the introduction of a general vaccine register and paved the way for a targeted vaccine mandate for certain professions and vulnerable groups.

Two motions against a vaccine mandate were also voted down in the Bundestag on Thursday.

The first, presented by a group of politicians around Wolfgang Kubicki (FDP) had argued for improvements to the vaccination campaign rather than a general mandate, while the second, from the AfD, stated that a vaccine mandate would be ineffective and unconstitutional.

Coverage from The Local (English-language German news)

Your thoughts, JtC? Or anyone's?

PS - Big thanks to those who have kept The Dose going during its existence!

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