The Dose - Thurs 20 Jan 2022

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Post All the Covid Things in this Thread!

A little about me and my views on Covid:
1. I am vaxxed, but will not be boostered unless made to be.
2. I got vaxxed because it seemed like it would help open society back up, and let life be normal. I didn't get vaxxed because I was worried or scared of Covid, although, I understand and accept people that can be scared and worried and hold nothing against them and their getting vaxxed, boostered, etc.
3. The vaxx push is illogical to me. When it was supposedly really a vaccination to prevent one getting the disease, that made sense. Now? I don't know. Get vaxxed/boostered so the vaxxed/boostered don't catch covid? Seems nutsy. I would fully support and get a true vaccination, one that works as a vaccine to prevent Covid.
4. I read the Dose top to bottom every day. I don't always agree with everything, but I do read it. Information from all sides and perspectives is important!

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QMS's picture

Thanks for stepping up to fill the dose slot. Appreciate your open honesty of where you stand
with the vax madness. It all makes sense to me. Snoopy posted a comment in yesterday's dose
looking for reactions, but it was early this morning.

Will cross post it here ..

https://caucus99percent.com/comment/557347#comment-557347

good luck!

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question everything

@QMS , yesterday and I think a few previous ones as well. Thanks for reposting that. I hope to read it all this evening. (And thanks to snoopy as well.)

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This story of Brianne Dressen‘s participation begins in an early Astra Zenica trial in November 2020. It is difficult to read, and even more difficult to realize the extent to which vaccine injury was being actively suppressed by our health agency “leaders” while Big Pharma and their minions continued to rake in their windfall profits.

The Brianne Dressen’s story is cautionary and important in the extreme with regard to our future response to “pandemics” and EUA approved products. It needs to be read through to the end, including the part played by;

Dr. Eric J. Rubin, NEJM editor-in-chief and member of the FDA’s review committee that recommended covid shots be okayed for five-year-olds.

A Million Americans Were Injured by Covid Vaccines; One Woman Stands Up for Them>

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“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024

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@ovals49

After the treatments at the NIH concluded, Brianne and the others were instructed not to talk about what went on during their stay at the National Institute for Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS). When one of the group put something on social media about the visit, it resulted in a call and threat that if she did it again, they would “yank” her entire NIH health account and cut off all communication with her.

“At this point,” Brianne said, “we all complied. We thought they were going to publish this data over the summer and then the floodgates will open, allowing the sick to get care.”

But despite the hope that a treatment protocol would come out of the research, the NIH suddenly became unavailable to the group, something that coincided, said Brianne, with the FDA having a meeting with the NIH. When a NINDS spokesperson was recently asked about the status of the findings, the only response they would offer was “this research has been submitted to a journal.”

It sure seems like a bunch of folks are conspiring to cover up vaccine injuries. That’s pretty much proven with Brianne's story and others who have had contact with government agencies only to have all communication stopped and people being told not to talk about it.

I asked yesterday if Carlson had talked about vaccine injuries and deaths and it looks the media on both sides have been told not to. Threatened to not talk about it? Newsmax, OANN (?) and other right wing news sites wouldn’t touch the story.

But where is congress? Ron Johnson held one meeting for the injured, but why isn’t he doing everything he can to get this story out? Paul is happy to go after Fauci, but is that all he’s willing to do? Johnson had his video removed by YouTube and he’s just going to roll over and let it be covered up? Boy I sure hope that I live to see the trials on this because there sure looks like there are a lot of smoking guns to nail people with.

Thanks for your story, Sima. Keeping an open mind.

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@snoopydawg

Why are we the only ones?

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for posting the dose. My biggest issues with all of this is the lack of transparency, an unjustifiable vaccine mandate, intentionally flawed data collection, failure to take basic measures to prevent spread of the virus, deliberate use of flawed testing, censorship of a whole host of people who seem to have legitimate criticisms, and failure to report vaccine injuries. It all adds up to an incredibly damning picture of the people who have been entrusted with this job of 'public health'. Something about all of this is very wrong.

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https://www.activistpost.com/2022/01/england-ends-all-covid-passports-ma...

This news from the UK is blowing me away this morning!

End of all Passports! Mask Mandates! Work

restrictionshttps://preview.redd.it/p3hh15wnqtc81.jpg?width=758&auto=webp&s=625a4f76...

Looks like common sense is breaking out all over.

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NYCVG

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@NYCVG

Hope the US follows suit. Sadly I fear big pharma's grip on the US power structure is far stronger than the UK.

Sima, we've had similar experience with the vaccine. In retrospect I might have handled it differently but hindsight is 20-20. I can't make the passports make sense either.

ggersh (or ovals?) posted this the other day. It mirrors my current thinking...

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All the best!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout

All of the free At-Home Tests Brandon has released will be prone to significant numbers of False Negative results. I was mildly symptomatic for several days following an extended exposure to a confirmed positive, but asymptomatic, individual who had been boosted recently. My At-Home tests were all negative.

I feel fairly certain I was infected with Omicron, but will need follow up antibody testing for a more definitive diagnosis. The free home tests (if negative) are far from reliable with regard to the Omicron variant.

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“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024

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@ovals49

There's away to tell with them if you have natural immunity or just vaccine generated antibodies. I would like to learn more about them...
not sure if these tests are available...
https://news.mit.edu/2021/smart-develops-10-minute-test-detect-covid-imm...
T cell testing may make more sense...
https://patch.com/us/across-america/did-you-have-covid-19-new-t-cell-tes...
Some people had T cells for COVID at the start of the pandemic.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200716-the-people-with-hidden-prote...

When researchers tested blood samples taken years before the pandemic started, they found T cells which were specifically tailored to detect proteins on the surface of Covid-19

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout
assuming you (or helper) are not averse to curette finger pricking. The others require IV blood draws, specific labs and presumably a Dr.’s order.

I wonder, additionally, how amenable the NIH/CDC/BigPharma gang will be to approval and availability here in the US. It would seem a significant threat to future COVID vaccine sales if a sizable portion of the public were to learn they had natural immunity and could skip the jab at very little risk.

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“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024

I have been wondering what trap they are setting for us with the coordinated lifting of restrictions. Now I think I know thanks to others on the web for bringing it to my attention.

TPTB are expecting a huge tsunami of illnesses to pop up (either because of vax side effects or some new shit they deliberately release). And they want to be able to blame the spread of illness on the lax restrictions, so they can justify even stricter lock downs.

@NYCVG

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snoopydawg's picture

@entrepreneur

But you’re probably right. They don’t give up power very easily so when they do look for something more devious to come our way. Remember that tweet about a guy getting in another guy’s face making him back up. 1st guy keeps pushing 2nd guy back till 2nd guy said enough so 1st guy stops for now. But then he starts doing it again and 1st guy gives up more ground on top of what he’s already given up. Rinse and repeat until 2nd guy has backed over the cliff. Yeah the tweet said it better, but you get the drift. 1st guy is always thinking of ways to make people back up. Look at how much power we have already lost the last 2 years.

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@NYCVG That's good news! I hope the USA follows suit!

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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Episode 10: Vaccine Remorse: What to do if You've Already Vaxxed
https://vsecretscc.com/episodes-10-live/?mpweb=1603-539-146343
including a bonus on the spike proteins the mRNA gene therapy causes your body to create.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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Israel keeps on boosting with devastating effects, which way will amerikkka go?

Thanks for the Dose Sima, like you I got the original Vaxx but will not get boosted
unless it's off to the internment camp and even then I will try to fight it.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

@ggersh @ggersh for the answer to your questions aboutthe USA

Maybe NOT!

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NYCVG

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@NYCVG but it's also about power and control over us the people

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnrb8HnQvfU]

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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@ggersh Hate to say it, but I'm actually afraid that could happen, and like you, I would probably give in and get boostered to stay out of such a camp.

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

I really like your statement of your positions. Curious to hear others so I will post my own.

I work as a stylist in a small salon, as a private contractor.
I am very thankful that Trump and congress passed legislation that allowed me to collect unemployment during the initial 10 week shutdown. It was a lifeline for me. Joe Biden owes me 600$.
I believe in masking and distance/space. My coworkers and I have avoided Covid now for over 1.5 years despite seeing dozens of people per week and being up close and personal with them.
I was Vax hesitant. Waited until data was looking fairly good over summer of 2021 to get jabbed.
I got jabbed late June and early July. Moderna.
I got a blood clot in my leg 12 days after second shot. Ended up in ER and 3 months of blood thinner.
I will not get boosted.
I have been on human use Ivermectin for 2 months now. Prescribed by an Integrative Neurologist. Delivered by mail to my home.
Several times a week I google "Covid deaths in Uttar Pradesh". My simple calculations show that in late 2021 my state of Minnesota citizens had a 2400 times greater chance of dying than those in U.P.
I know numerous people who have died of Covid unjabbed. I know numerous who have died despite being jabbed.
I am in a "let er rip" frame of mind now. However, due to many of my clients being older I must remain vigilant. They are only as safe as I am.
That being said, many of my older clients believe so strongly that the jab will protect them that they don't seem to care anymore.
I don't cry when people die due to ignorance/misinformation. Nor do I dance on their grave.

The Dose, Naked Capitalism, Dr John Cambell and FLCCC are the best sources of information that I have found.

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@wouldsman experience and positions. These little summaries are a great learning tool, I think. I had no idea blood clots were a possible side effect of the vaccination until long after I was vaccinated. I'm so sorry you suffered that!

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

The United Kingdom pulling the plug on two years of preposterous nonsense is the best news I have heard since this nightmare began. Of course what goes up can come back down and they can stick the plug back in the Lunacy Socket at any time, but you cannot gainsay the significance of this policy reversal -- especially BoJo's use of the term, endemic.

The biggest single mystery to me about the "news" coverage of the various governmental regulations imposed supposedly to stop the pandemic is where anybody got the idea that the Pfizer and Moderna products would stop the spread of the virus. I have seen the video clips of Biden, Harris and the rest of the Liars saying the getting vaccinated would keep you from getting infected or spreading the infection. That was an obvious lie at the time as the rap always was that the "vaccine" would prevent you from suffering the more serious symptoms or death from the virus AND simultaneously prevent you from spreading the disease. I have seen cockamamy arguments from Team Vaxx that the jabs will reduce the probablity of you spreading the disease, even as you catch it.

That weaseling way to defend the original lie that the vaccine will keep you from spreading the infection to other people is pretty lame. But the truth is even worse. I do not understand why the politicians could make those promises for the vaccine with a straight face while the words of the Pfizer company completely contradict that bogus claim.

March 11, 2021 Transcript of Pfizer Conference for Investors:

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Frank A. D'Amelio - Pfizer Inc. - CFO & Executive VP of Global Supply

So in terms of, I'll call it, the business going forward, although we're not certain, based on everything we've seen to date, we believe it's becoming increasingly likely that an annual revaccination is going to take place. And we believe that, that's going to take place for the foreseeable future, most likely a single dose, but that's what we see based on what we've seen to date. And not as -- so we don't see this as a onetime event, but we see this as something that's going to continue for the foreseeable future.

Now in terms of pricing, let me see if I can hit on that. So if you look at how current demand and current pricing is being driven, it's clearly not being driven by what I'll call normal market conditions, normal market forces. It's really been driven by kind of the pandemic state that we've been in and the needs of governments to really secure doses from the various vaccine suppliers. So what we believe, what I believe is as we move from a pandemic state, from a pandemic situation to an endemic situation, normal market forces, normal market conditions will start to kick in. And factors like efficacy, booster ability, clinical utility will basically become very important, and we view that as, quite frankly, a significant opportunity for our vaccine from a demand perspective, from a pricing perspective, given the clinical profile of our vaccine. So clearly, more to come here. But we think as this shifts from pandemic to endemic, we think there's an opportunity here for us.

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You can read the entire transcript and you will not find the slightest indication that Pfizer had any intention of letting the opportunity pass to shoot the product into the veins of hundreds of millions of customers for the "forseeable future." Yet our entire "news" culture projected the idea that the vaccine was a vaccine and would make you immune.

This faith in the "vaccine" doing what its manufacturer NEVER claimed it would do is the most disturbing part of this clusterfuck. It has cost me several friendships and my career so far. I refuse to deny how angry this has made me.
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I am not so sure that the Big Bananas who have coordinating the bullshit campaign behind Forced Vaccination will stop lying. Which begs the real question for all of us as we follow Pfizer into the Endemic Phase of the Asteroid Virus: What the fuck is really going on? The one thing and only one thing I am sure of -- it is not a sincere effort to protect public health.

Why? Pick your poison.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

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@fire with fire

Seems to me that there was a plan to deceive from the git go. And most of the world leaders were in on it. As are the courts. I posted about the Supremes decision yesterday and in it the author wondered why no law for the no vax side didn’t bring up the constitutional issue that no emergency authorization vax could be forced on us. I’m asking why no justice brought it up themselves? After all they are supposed to be the experts on the constitution right? Did all 9 of them just forget about how it’s supposed to protect us from an overreaching government? Forgive me for calling bull on that.

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@snoopydawg but Scotus likely was presented with the central issue of whether OSHA had the authority in the first place to issue such an order absent Congress weighing in, and ruling that it didn't, there was therefore no need to address any other constitutional issues raised, if in fact they were brought up in the pleadings. So you have a narrow, technical basis for the ruling, rather than a ruling based on the larger constitutional issues which concern many of us.

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@wokkamile

But then they made everyone working in CMS paid hospitals get vaxxed which goes back to the point of mandating them while they are still under EAU which is not legal under the constitution. Am I wrong on this? I’m open to being wrong here.

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@snoopydawg similar threshold issue approach: Scotus was looking only at the question of whether the HHS Sec'y had proper authority to issue the mandate. The Court found there was enough specificity in the existing statutes and rules to make the process legal. Four Justices (conservatives) dissented.

My impression is that because of the expedited nature of the lawsuits, the rulings focused narrowly on the proper authorization matter.

It's my non-expert understanding however, now that the threshold issue is decided in both areas, that the CMS ruling can still be challenged at the lower fed court level on some of the underlying issues that have been raised, the EUA - Comirnaty tricky issue, and fundamental issues of violation of right to privacy and bodily integrity and the interesting question of whether vaccines that don't work to stop community spread can still be mandated on other grounds.

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@wokkamile . found the formal pleadings before the Court, only an amicus brief submitted by CHD from Drs Malone and Montagnier, so no idea whether the plaintiffs in both cases brought up the issue of the EUA/Comirnaty. In the amicus from Malone and Montagnier, they do raise the issue of vaccine inefficacy undercutting the rationale for the mandates of stopping community spread of disease, but as scientists and not lawyers they don't mention the tricky EUA/Comirnaty issue.

But my belief, as noted above, is that the Court on a rushed basis is likely to reach for the quickest, easiest way to resolve the cases, namely here the question of proper authority to issue the mandates, and not the substantive constitutional issues regarding the mandates per se.

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@wokkamile

to the lower courts as you said.

CMS ruling can still be challenged at the lower fed court level on some of the underlying issues that have been raised, the EUA - Comirnaty tricky issue, and fundamental issues of violation of right to privacy and bodily integrity

It’s in the article I excerpted yesterday and QMS provided the link above. I don’t remember reading the 2 points you mention here though that doesn’t mean much with my memory. I don’t think he wrote about it though. He too came late to questioning the decision.

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@snoopydawg

It's a hopelessly out of date artifact. You also have a right to privacy in the Constitution that is utterly worthless. Citing the Constitution as the legal beacon for decision making may sound good as a slogan, but it is not a comfortable argument to make on paper. The sketchy document is filled with holes and loose ends and complete irrelevance to 21st century realities. Look at where we are in the US today, which is a shitshow of injustice. We could not have ended up in the mass-delusional situation we are in as a nation if it were not for such a flawed and antiquated document to lead us here.

An intellectually honest Supreme Court Justice would want to avoid referencing it, because it casts a shadow of culpability and disregard over their life's work.

And in any event, relying on Constitutional brain farts by a bunch of partially senile political appointees, who were approved by mostly corrupt Duopoly insiders — is an undignified hit-or-miss fiasco. I wouldn't pledge allegiance to it.

Other than that, I'm right there with you.

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@Pluto's Republic

Look at where we are in the US today, which is a shitshow of injustice.

No right to privacy anymore nor no right to a fair trial under the espionage act plus add in the patriot act and Obama’s 2011 NDAA the constitution has been nullified with the blessing of the courts. But even before that it was on life support.

And in any event, relying on Constitutional brain farts by a bunch of partially senile political appointees, who were approved by mostly corrupt Duopoly insiders — is an undignified hit-or-miss fiasco. I wouldn't pledge allegiance to it.

Guess it’s hard for me to give up the brainwashing I’ve undergone for so long that I still think America is a nation of laws instead of it being run by people who make up the rules as they want to fit their goals. My bad.

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@snoopydawg whatever credibility it had with its Buckley and Bush v Gore decisions. That said, I'm reminded of the wise words from a great American statesman: "There's no sense dwelling on our losses. We just keep on lighting the lights and following the formalities." - Norman Bates, small businessman.

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@wokkamile

were people. And when they misinterpreted Jacobson to allow women to be sterilized and other heinous acts. I think I learned about that in one of the many videos I’ve been watching. I follow Aaron Siri too who is an attorney working on the constitutional side of the vaccines. He sued Pfizer to get their papers released earlier than 75 years. It took Fauci and friends only 108 to read them and authorize it.

QMS asked if the EAU had expired yet, but they should be a non issue because now there are 2 drugs for early treatments. Unless because they are under the EAU it doesn’t count? But of course there have been lots of drugs for it and recognized by the FDA except not for treating the Rona. Kos has a diarrhea diary up poo pooing all the early treatment drugs. I hope that one day they will see how they have been lied to about them.

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They demanded it. The government is immune to any liability automatically because they are the government.

It seems as if it would be hard to establish proof, if one got Covid and was injured, Even if you got neuro covid, how would you establish that the vaccine was responsible for not preventing it?

Se the Most importantly, the government is liable for anything that hurts business. That may include not doing anything that would make their business as profitable as possible

Countries are suing each other right and left for doing things that deprive corporations of the value in their investments. For example, the US sued Mexico for closing some factories during the height of covid because several employees caught it and died. Mexico was clearly saying that the factories needed changes to be safe. But we didnt get it.

There is often an attitude that if we gave an inch we'd have to give a mile. I think the message thats being sent is that the factory running as much as it can is the most important thing, especially in low wage countries. Human lives in low wage countries do clearly have less value in terms of money than in the richest countries like in Wastern Europe. The US is somewhere in the middle. Not as cheap as Mexico or India but not as high as Scandinavian countries, France or Germany. The more neoliberal a country is, generally the less they devote to their poorer peoples welfare, in terms of cost. The rich can usually do okay on their own, anyway. Thats why there is pressure coming from the WTO to decouple governments from social services, with them often only providing services to the very poor.

Here in the US we are devoted stronly to tiered healthcare and so we also fight anything that threatens to subvert the hierachical tiered valuation of lives, calling it "trade distorting" in the WTO.

tied values of life are to the incomes. Since we are the most neoliberal country, our lives cost benefit analysis value is based on a sick workers lost value to their employer, ie their income. Thats whats used to determine the QALY value.. (quality adjusted life years) Also, the peak value of a life is not necessarily in their prime earning years, not when they are old and may be earning a lot more than when they are younger, I think. The calculation is complex. .

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Kick in. Pfizer is the company that is charging $156,000 / year for the XTandi prostate cancer medication they recently unveiled. So you know thats what hes talking about, imagine your government spending $1000 a year for the life saving vaccines?

The research for it was funded by the US taxpayer. and African Americans males are far more likely to get prostate cancer, and African American males make less already than white males, is that why its so expensive? No because they make less so have less, so the high price for Xandi must be because of some other reason. Maybe its because of the stranglehold the WTO drug pricing rules have on the country that wrote them, the US.

It needs to be compared to the price of having untreated cancer, which is infinite, i.e. death. Also how much does it cost to get COVID, Its my understanding that in the past pre-waiver the average cost per insured patient is around $45,000, higher if somebody is uninsured or gets severe Covid. I dont know how much people who never receive a positive COVID test pay, if COVID isnt the primary diagnosis. This is he "free market" united states so the cost of anything medical is fairly reliably the highest in the world. In other countries the costs of drugs made there is usually lower but here its higher, why?

Read up on "market spiral pricing"

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to catch additional diseases from staff.

I think it all comes down to that. Dont forget a stay in a US hospital is extremely expensive often thousands of dollars a day. Think about it and you'll realize that its a lawsuit waiting to happen. Someday, soon, the routine moving of patients, etc will be done by robots but until themn they have to take every possible step to prevent sfaff from having contagious diseases.

This isnt about their health, its about liability risk of the hospitals for others getting sick.

In some countries (India) as many as half of the staff have latent TB, often drug resistant TB. People do catch it from hospital staff too. That must really suck.

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@CB

the take away is how the Fauci mafia controls the narrative which protects the orthodoxy and
continues the pharacare industries' fleecing of the taxpayer money to the tune of billions $$$
yucky poo doo. No wonder health care as we know it is just another money making scam.

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@QMS

This is from June 2021

Fauci Emails Reveal Damage Control Scramble After ZeroHedge Spotlights Man-Made COVID-19 Theory

In January, 2020, when the World Health Organization insisted that COVID-19 wasn't transmissible between humans, and Dr. Anthony Fauci said that the risk to the American public from the virus was "low," officials at the National Institutes of Health were scrambling to perform damage control after a controversial - and now withdrawn - study suggested that there were HIV-like 'insertions' included in SARS-CoV-2.

The study, "Uncanny similarity of unique inserts on the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag," posited that segments of the virus's RNA had no relation to other coronaviruses such as SARS, and instead appeared to be closer to HIV.

I’ve read about this off and on from the beginning and it alludes to how the virus was man made. Now we have the emails from Fauci that seems to back it up. He sure seems to be walking like a duck..

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ss they are literally dying, because they cant afford it. They will just try to tough it out. Thats what its like being poor. Its like that in the US too but not as bad. So I would not trust UP statistics.

Just sayin! As far as myself, I Am avoiding all close contact with anybody outsode my household and taking a food that I know dramatically reduces both the covid virus replication and acts as a natural anti inflmmatory substance and reduces cytokine storm in animals. It was the idea of a teenage girl. Yes, I trust her more than I trust the powers that be.. As far as I know Jennifer Zhang's idea has merit.

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I try to be skeptical of everything and everybody, looking for their angle. Big Pharma and rightwing sources are questionable. Even if they're right, that doesn't make them believable. In most cases the "right" part is just dressing on top of their own agenda.

But I've read enough, seen enough, talked with enough people to make up my mind.

I was just about the last of my group of friends to get a vax shot. I waited until I saw that my friends were not dropping dead from it. I waited until there wasn't a surge of problems. I read the ingredients while I waited, then got my Pfizer shot.

I should mention that I got it for social reasons. I am not a fan of needles. I'd have preferred to not get it but at that time, last summer, there was the possibility that clubs would open and vax cards would be needed. My little music combo would then be able to meet, rehearse, and perform.

My 2nd shot was scheduled for 3 weeks later. Meanwhile, just before that date arrived, my neighbor decided to tell me how sick the 2nd shot made him. This created a problem for me. From what I'd heard, most people didn't get sick...but some did. I'd read that 3 weeks was the best interval, but 8 weeks was ok, too. So I waited. 3 weeks...8 weeks...it's been 27 weeks now and it looks like we're seeing the end of this thing, with me not getting that 2nd shot. Certainly not that plus a booster.

So let's go back to the ingredients. I'm not a scientist so I can't say what all those chemicals are for but I just don't see any covid-specific stuff in there. If I'm reading it correcty (maybe I am, maybe not) it's fairly generic and it might help against covid but, again, not covid-specific. My instinct/analysis/feeling about it is that it's a way to make the body reject unexpected outside "invaders". Not necessarily covid. I'm stressing that (even though I way be wrong. How would I know?)

But wouldn't that, then, be fatal to people getting organ transplants? Wouldn't the vaccines end up causing the body to reject the new kidney? the new heart?

And why is there so little reaction to the 1st shot but more to the 2nd? I have a theory which could be way off-base. Well...several theories, all similar. One is that the 2nd dose is larger and there's something in there that we shouldn't have, something that *will* make us sick. It doesn't on the 1st shot because there's not enough of it. Or there's something in the 2nd does that's put there deliberately to make us sick for a day or two. Why? Perhaps to give the illusion that these shots aren't generic. That the 2nd shot "proves" it's doing its job.

If the 2nd shot were identical to the 1st then I'd think the reactions would be the same. (shrug)

I don't know if the shots will have any long-term effects on people. They might just wear off because they're not really covid-related, just generic flu shots. We're told to get flu shots every year. I've never bothered. I haven't had a cold in the two years and I believe it's because I'm washing my hands so often. And avoiding people!

Oh...one more thing. I don't think it's any bombshell to read that this came out of the Wuhan lab. Here are two scenarios:

1. Bat flies 1,000 miles to Wuhan, lands in a wet market, coincidentally next to a virus lab. People get sick.
2. Lab studying bat transmitted viruses gets a hold of one, does gain of function research, someone gets it on clothing, goes outside. People get sick.

I'm picking #2 on that one! I've read people saying it couldn't have come from a lab because it couldn't be created artificially. That's either ignorant or dishonest. No, it couldn't be *created* but it could be enhanced. And I have no doubt that it was.

Meanwhile the evidence points to omicron not being stopped by any of the vaccines so there's no reason now to get another shot. I'll wait it out, wait for the all clear.

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a snippet of mRNA (messenger RNA) that has been coded to produce the spike protein found on the SARS-CoV-2 virus. They are encased in lipids to protect them when injected into the muscle whereupon they will travel in the lyphatic system. These lipids also assist in merging with the cell walls of the muscle tissue to allow entry of the mRNA.

The viral vector vaccines do the same except they use a defective common cold virus to infect the cells whereupon DNA coded for the virus spike protein produces the mRNA in the nucleus. Once this mRNA reaches the cytoplasm it uses the ribosomes (just like the mRNA vaccines) to translate it into the proteins that make up the spike. These spikes are then pushed out of the cell to be presented to your immune system which will subsequently produce antigens against the virus.

I've seen nothing in the published data that shows anything out of the ordinary. Of course they could have concealed other items such as adjuvents.

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and that's how it's introduced? When you say "coded", I'm not sure what that means.I'm picturing something digital which doesn't make sense to me.

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JUST has the messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) of the proteins that make up the spike (S) from the +RNA virus (Nido)SARS-COV. This tricks your immune system into making antigens to fight the real virus should you subsequently get infected.

RNA virus

Genetic code

The genetic code is the set of rules used by living cells to translate information encoded within genetic material (DNA or mRNA sequences of nucleotide triplets, or codons) into proteins. Translation is accomplished by the ribosome, which links proteinogenic amino acids in an order specified by messenger RNA (mRNA), using transfer RNA (tRNA) molecules to carry amino acids and to read the mRNA three nucleotides at a time. The genetic code is highly similar among all organisms and can be expressed in a simple table with 64 entries.

A series of codons in part of a messenger RNA (mRNA) molecule. Each codon consists of three nucleotides, usually corresponding to a single amino acid. The nucleotides are abbreviated with the letters A, U, G and C. This is mRNA, which uses U (uracil). DNA uses T (thymine) instead. This mRNA molecule will instruct a ribosome to synthesize a protein according to this code.

The codons specify which amino acid will be added next during protein synthesis. With some exceptions,[1] a three-nucleotide codon in a nucleic acid sequence specifies a single amino acid. The vast majority of genes are encoded with a single scheme (see the RNA codon table). That scheme is often referred to as the canonical or standard genetic code, or simply the genetic code, though variant codes (such as in mitochondria) exist.

If you want to understand how mRNA actually makes up the proteins in a virus (or just a part of one) using the ribosomes:

Protein Synthesis-Translation

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does not offer ANY prophylaxis AT ALL for early treatment for COVID-19 except stay at home, isolate and if conditions worsen to the point that one has EXTREME difficulty in breathing, then go to a hospital to be admitted to ICU and given the standard of care which is Run. Death is Near and probable intubation and put on a ventilator?

Dr Zelenko reports that Ralph Barik, who has authored many patents on the SARS-CoV virus in the 20 years prior to its outbreak (including gain of function at Wuhan), had also authored a study that can be found at MEDLINE (National Library of Medicine's (NLM) premier bibliographic database that contains references to journal articles in life sciences), that showed the efficacy and safety of hydroxychloroquine and zinc in early treatment.

Bill Gate's Wellcome Trust subsequently 'engineered' a study of hydroxychloroquine in the late stage of the disease but DID NOT include zinc which was a necessary component of the treatment. This study failed (as it was meant to do) and spelled the demise of this prophylaxis.

Dr. Zev Zelenko: The Plan to Tag Us for the New World Order Slave System (Video with Dr Ardis)
January 18, 2022

Story at-a-glance

  • Dozens of peer-reviewed studies show that when COVID-19 is treated within the first few days of symptom onset, there’s an 85% reduction in hospitalization and death
  • With Omicron, we have been gifted a best-case scenario. The highly contagious virus can rip through the population, causing only mild cold symptoms, thus producing herd immunity without the risk of mass casualties
  • Two months before the rollout of the COVID shots, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration was aware that they could cause serious problems, including heart attacks, strokes, myocarditis, blood clots, neurological problems and more, yet they pushed them anyway
  • Dr. Vladimir Zelenko believes SARS-CoV-2 is a bioweapon. Patents spanning two decades support this view. Those who created the weapon also investigated and identified antidotes, which includes the zinc ionophore hydroxychloroquine
  • The antidote to COVID was intentionally suppressed to encourage people to get the COVID jab, which Zelenko believes is a tool to tag people for the New World Order slave system

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, whom I’ve interviewed twice previously, was among the first U.S. physicians to develop an early treatment program for the novel SARS-CoV-2 infection. He popularized the use of hydroxychloroquine and zinc, and when hydroxychloroquine became increasingly difficult to obtain, he was also among the first to identify quercetin as a viable alternative.

When the pandemic started, Zelenko was practicing in New York. He has since moved to Florida, where he’s been giving interviews for several hours a day, trying to spread the word about early treatment and prevention. As noted by Zelenko:

It’s a very treatable infection — or should I say bioweapon? — if done within the first few days, because COVID is two diseases. It’s the infectious stage of the virus, and then a week later, you have the pathogenic inflammatory reaction that does all the damage to the lungs and causes blood clots.

So, it’s all about timing. And the data is very clear. There are dozens of peer-reviewed studies that prove if you treat COVID within the first few days, you have an 85% reduction in hospitalization and death. It’s a no-brainer. You could have saved 700,000 people from going to the hospital out of 800,000.
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and he came right out and said what many people have been thinking. With all the evidence of the vaccines causing great harm and deaths I can’t argue with his line of thinking. And remember that project veritas reports show that ivermectin was a good drug to use for all aspects of Covid. Boy that story has gone away quickly hasn’t it? As well as the Intercept article on Fauci’s emails. As I was posting the article from June I wondered how much information that we’ve read about 2 years ago has been forgotten? It will be interesting to look back at the Dose essays when this is finally over and see whether we were right all along from the beginning to question everything we have about this epidemic.

Video #3 with Zelenko

Then there’s this article that has links to 1,000 scientific studies on vaccine adverse effects.

Dangerous and Deadly: Over 1000 Scientific Studies Referencing Injuries and Deaths From Covid Vaccines

On this web page* you can find links to more than one thousand scientific studies and articles discussing adverse reactions to the Covid-19 vaccines. All of the studies have been authored by scientists and medical professionals. All of them have appeared in scientific and medical journals and publications. Most of them have been peer-reviewed. All of them present serious work by serious researchers.

We now know that those in power have been covering up how repurposed drugs work for early treatment and how they are covering up the amount of injuries caused by the vaccines.

How anyone can ignore this early warning sign!

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The 1st one shows the many adverse effects though.

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Over One Thousand Scientific Studies Prove That the COVID-19 Vaccines Are Dangerous, and All Those Pushing This Agenda Are Committing the Indictable Crime of Gross Misconduct in Public Office

Just over 12 months from deployment of the COVID 19 emergency use experimental vaccines, scientific studies in the thousands, and reports of criminal complaints of assault and murder from the illegal, unlawful use of biochemical poisons made to police forces around the country, verify an assault on an unsuspecting UK population. Irrefutable science shows that the COVID 19 vaccine is not safe and not effective in limiting transmission or infection from the SARS-CoV-2, coronavirus pathogens.

The “safe and effective” false propaganda, put out by public officials who now are continuing to push this vaccine, is a clear breach of duty. A public office holder is subject to, and aware of, a duty to prevent death or serious injury that arises only by virtue of the functions of the public office.

Many have breached that duty and, in doing so, are recklessly causing a risk of death or serious injury, by carrying on regardless of the now-confirmed dangers associated with COVID 19 injections. Some of these risks are blood clotting, myocarditis, pericarditis, thrombosis, thrombocytopenia, anaphylaxis, Bell’s palsy, Guillain-Barre, cancer including deaths, etc.

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does not offer ANY prophylaxis AT ALL for early treatment for COVID-19 except stay at home, isolate and if conditions worsen to the point that one has EXTREME difficulty in breathing, then go to a hospital to be admitted to ICU and given the standard of care which is Run. Death is Near and probable intubation and put on a ventilator?

So more people could get infected and then get sent home to infect more people so everyone has a chance to get put on remdisiver and ventilators? China and other countries put people up in hotels and provided meals for them to quarantine them and keep them from infecting others. Hotels were empty during the lockdowns so there were lots available. Instead Cuomo and other governors put sick people in nursing homes because they told us that hospitals were overrun.

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known for well more than a century to be relatively safe and effective. They also use hydroxychloroquine and zinc in early treatment as well as CTM.

Another factor is that the Chinese also pioneered the use of AI (artificial intelligence) to read CT scans of patients to differentiate between pneumonia, influenza and COVID-19 infection which allows for much better treatment, especially in advanced cases.

I had discovered the CDC included ALL three - Pneumonia, Influenza and COVID-19 (collectively known as PIC's) - for treatment and listing as cause of deaths for COVID-19. This fucked over treatment and inflated COVID death numbers. It is also why 10's thousands deaths from the winter flu season (influenza/pneumonia) 'disappeared' in the last two years. Walensky said a few days ago they would clean this mess up.

As a side note, China sped up installation of their 5G system at this time which allowed specialists to consult remotely with patients in rural China. They produced hundreds of CT machines and shipped them to towns where a basic trained nurse could assist the patients while a specialist doctor could remotely work with them using AI for diagnosis and treatment.

Latest COVID-19 Statistics in China

Cumulative confirmed cases: 105,411;
Cumulative recovered: 97,478;
Cumulative deaths: 4,636

Vaccination rate: 86.58% (1.220584 billion people fully vaccinated as of January 14, 2022)

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ENDING THE SCAMDEMIC WITH A SCAM

Yesterday, the British and Czech governments announced that they’re ending lockdowns, masks and vaxx mandates. Expect American Democrats to follow suit in the Ides of March.
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And after a year of non-stop failure, hapless Joe Biden desperately needs to claim to have done something right. As Nixon did in Vietnam, after having too little progress to show, Democrats may soon declare Covid “Peace with Honor.”

Nah, they’ll declare Victory! And claim credit for crushing the virus.

Once they do, the Democrat-run media will leap, along with the pols, like rats from a sinking ship. The unsmart masses will uncritically believe the revisionist media, including NPR, CNN, MSNBC, the NYT, benighted late night talk show hosts, clueless, yammering old women on daytime TV roundtables and shock jocks.
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For months, data from the UK have shown that many of the “vaxxed” are being hospitalized and dying. This undoubtedly influenced yesterday’s announcement.

While US and state governments have declined to systematically collect, and are suppressing, similar information, the vaxxed are also dying in the US. However, the government and media are again gaming the stats to sell the false “pandemic of the unvaccinated” trope. One trick is that those who are the sickest don’t get the shot in the first place because doctors know it will kill them; predictably, they get critically ill, go to the hospital and die, and are counted as “unvaxxed.” A second trick is that those who are injected and die within 14 days of vaxxing are counted as “unvaxxed;” as the injection temporarily attenuates immunity, the vaxxed become especially vulnerable to infection during that 14 day window. A third trick is that those who haven’t reached the full, cumulative 28 (Dose 2+14) day “waiting period” after the first shot, or who haven’t been “boosted,” are counted as “unvaxxed.” The complicit media has declined to ask serious questions about government recordkeeping and thus, allowed the statistical sham. The devil is in the details. But most people just read biased headlines and simply repeat what their poorly informed friends say.
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If nearly everyone had injected, there would be no control group, and Biden and Fauci could claim that the vaxxes saved humanity. But there are many hold-outs, like me. Over time, the control group should reveal more lies about vaxx “safety and effectiveness.” Though a well-funded cover-up will likely continue. Our media is worse than worthless; it’s bought, and reactionary.

For two years, Democrat Scamdemic sellers have exploited the public’s gullibility to build a massive scam. They can also exploit this gullibility to end the scam. A few statistical distortions can drop infection and death rates. The weather and Farr’s Law will do the rest.

Biden, Fauci and the Dem governors and mayors have lied from Day 1. They’ll continue to do so by declaring victory over the virus, perhaps during the (strategically delayed) March 1 State of the Union address. Much of the easily misled American public will buy it.

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It was known that it wasn’t an accurate test, but they used it anyway to drive up fear. They used it to say that there was an outbreak of pertussis or whooping cough in 2007 and lots of people got jabbed for it even though they didn’t need to.

From the NYT in 2020.

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90% of the cases were not actually Covid. But what else could they have been? I’m glad you asked.

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I’d like to know which test they are using now. We’re seeing more people than ever being told that they are positive. But on further testing not so much. Never forget that many countries used psychological warfare against their citizens to make them more afraid than they should have been. But then who would have accepted the lockdowns and other draconian measures they pushed on us?

https://tritorch.com/PCRFraud/

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