The Dose - 1-1-2022

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A few articles of interest.

A computer model study has suggested a higher vaccination rate in a population can be used to overcome a lower efficacy rate of a vaccine.

Vaccine Efficacy Needed for a COVID-19 Coronavirus Vaccine to Prevent or Stop an Epidemic as the Sole Intervention July 15, 2020

Simulation experiments revealed that to prevent an epidemic (reduce the peak by >99%), the vaccine efficacy has to be at least 60% when vaccination coverage is 100% (reproduction number=2.5–3.5). This vaccine efficacy threshold rises to 70% when coverage drops to 75% and up to 80% when coverage drops to 60% when reproduction number is 2.5, rising to 80% when coverage drops to 75% when the reproduction number is 3.5. To extinguish an ongoing epidemic, the vaccine efficacy has to be at least 60% when coverage is 100% and at least 80% when coverage drops to 75% to reduce the peak by 85%–86%, 61%–62%, and 32% when vaccination occurs after 5%, 15%, and 30% of the population, respectively, have already been exposed to COVID-19 coronavirus. A vaccine with an efficacy between 60% and 80% could still obviate the need for other measures under certain circumstances such as much higher, and in some cases, potentially unachievable, vaccination coverages.
Conclusions

This study found that the vaccine has to have an efficacy of at least 70% to prevent an epidemic and of at least 80% to largely extinguish an epidemic without any other measures (e.g., social distancing).

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A look at other population groups with their own medical data collection system.

All U.S. forces' personnel to take virus test after arrival in Japan 12-31-2021

The U.S. forces in Japan now require all of their personnel to test for the coronavirus within 24 hours after their arrival in the country, the Foreign Ministry said Friday, after a cluster infection recently broke out at a U.S. base in Okinawa.

The policy change came after the forces were criticized by Japan for exempting their personnel from testing for the virus before departing from the United States, with Foreign Minister Yoshimasa Hayashi calling for the implementation of stricter measures.

‘Like nothing we’ve seen’: US Forces Korea hits pandemic peak with new COVID-19 cases 12-29-2022

USFK reported 457 locally generated coronavirus cases between Dec. 21 and Monday, and another 10 cases among recent arrivals to South Korea.

Army Col. Seth Graves, garrison commander at Camp Humphreys, the largest U.S. base overseas, in an announcement Wednesday on Facebook said the spike in cases “is like nothing we’ve seen here on the installation since the beginning of the pandemic.”

Military COVID-19 deaths on upswing as vaccination deadlines pass Dec 15, 2021

With 80 deaths and 258,800 cases overall, the military’s COVID-19 mortality rate sits at 0.03%, well below the 1.6% mortality rate in the U.S. overall.
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As of Wednesday, 69% of the total force is fully vaccinated ― 1,588,965 troops ― with another 326,967, or 14%, having received the first of a two-dose regimen.

Wednesday also marked the active-duty Army’s vaccination deadline, leaving the Navy and Marine Corps Reserve to finish up by Dec. 28, and the Army Reserve and National Guard until June 30 to comply.

VA's Coronavirus Cases Reach All-Time High 12-30-2021

The Department of Veterans Affairs reported nearly 23,000 active cases of the coronavirus Wednesday -- more than at any other point during the pandemic.

The active case count reached 22,911 Wednesday, surpassing a high set in January. The record-breaking number of cases among VA patients reflects trends nationwide. The United States hit an all-time high this week of more than 265,000 new coronavirus cases per day on average, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

Experts blame the rapid spread on the newest coronavirus variant, Omicron, which scientists say is the most contagious strain yet. Dr. Anthony Fauci, the chief medical adviser to the president, warned Tuesday that the surge is expected to continue well into January.
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In total, the VA has reported more than 405,000 positive cases of the coronavirus since the pandemic began. During that time, 17,693 VA patients have died, as well as 237 agency employees.

Nearly 4 million veterans -- about 64.5% of all VA patients -- are vaccinated, according to VA data. Less than half of vaccinated veterans, about 1.2 million, have received a booster shot. Public health officials have recommended the booster shots as the best protection against the omicron variant.

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that all cause mortality (and COVID death) is higher in 2021 than 2020?
https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/u-s-likely-to-have-more-deaths-in-...

The United States counted the most deaths ever in 2020.

However, statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) predict the number of deaths in 2021 will be even larger than in 2020.

Robert Anderson keeps track of deaths for the CDC.

He said when the numbers from November and December come in early next year, the deaths will be higher by about 15,000.

The CDC numbers include all deaths, including those from natural causes like old age, plus accidents like car crashes or drug overdoses.

Anderson said the deaths from COVID-19 in 2020 reached about 351,000. This year, however, the new coronavirus could be responsible for about 370,000 deaths.

COVID-19 is the nation’s number three cause of death, behind heart disease and cancer.

Experts also think the U.S. will set a record in 2021 for drug overdose deaths. The number is expected to be more than 100,000 for the first time.

What I find curious is that there are more deaths despite high rates of vaccination. How can they be seen as effective? They continue to blame the unvaxed, but there were NO vaccines in 2020 and we were all unvaxed.

Well, thanks for today's dose.

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about the other diseases that are killing Americans daily as they are about the Rona. Or that over 68,000 of us die every year from lack of health care period because they don’t even have access to insurance. Add in the others who do have it but don’t use it because their deductibles a so f’cking high. I’d even support them working with big pharma to tackle those diseases full bore like they have pretended to do with Rona, but make sure that their products actually work. Doesn’t Cuba have a vaccine for cancer? If so you’d think other countries would want to get in on that…oh wait there’s more money in treatments then cures. Never mind.

A year ago Biden said that any president responsible for this many deaths shouldn’t be president. Hey Joe guess what? More people have died due to the Rona under your watch..well according to the CDC numbers anyhow. With or from the numbers are higher. Oh yeah it’s not his fault, but republican governors and those naughty unjabbed folks.

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No matter how much we believe in the idea of "vaccines" we also see that they have a limited effect on coronaviruses. They can take us so far, but not back to normal.

Vaccines will not stop the Pandemic. They won't strengthen everyone's immune system to the same degree. They can't stop Covid-19 infections among the vaccinated. They do not make public spaces safe. Vaccines offer widely varying degrees of immune protection to individuals for a limited amount of time. But they do not offer protection to an open society. They don't eliminate the need for masks or social distancing.

The vaccines are merely a holding pattern of infection and death until an effective treatment or cure can be developed.(One that his very profitable.) China is also in a holding pattern, waiting for an effective treatment — except they are doing it without the coronavirus being present. I'm surprised they haven't come up with a cure yet.

So, we wait.

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is pretty damn effective if implemented early. Why do we need to wait?

We have treatments....but they are suppressed instead of promoted.

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...and it certainly should not be suppressed. In fact, I think it is possible for individuals to avoid infection with what we know right now. But these methods do not scale to public health.

Nonetheless, this is still just buying time. It won't eradicate the coronavirus, which can mutate and reinfect. Society cannot return to normal when it is avoiding infection.

The virus is a long term threat. We don't talk about the fact that the virus does a great deal of long term damage to the body, even in mild and asymptomatic infections. This is not long covid. The virus sets the body up for all sorts of diseases of aging, from diabetes to Parkinsons, and several identified cancers. It causes the body to age more rapidly and will leave at least half of the infected with mental disorders. The virus may never actually leave the body. It retreats and goes dormant for a time in certain parts of the body where the immune system is not active. The science and studies are there, but no one is discussing them. All the emphasis is on the fight to protect society so the spice continues to flow.

The only reasonable goal is to make the virus extinct. Our immune systems can only be modified so far.

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But these methods do not scale to public health.

I'm asking because I have great respect for your understanding of the situation.

If it works for individuals, why not populations...like the kits used in India...and Mexico?

Worked for their populations.

As an aside, wishing you the best as we enter 2022!

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show that immunity created after vaccination is transient and wanes with time. On the other hand, natural COVID immunity is robust and lasting.

Johns Hopkins Medical Prof Explains Natural COVID Immunity Is Very Strong
More and more studies emerging about robust resistance
October 18, 2021

(THE PULSE) – Approximately twenty studies have now emerged regarding natural immunity to COVID. All of them point to the fact that natural immunity acquired through a COVID infection can be quite robust. Emphasizing this may seem like a broken record to many independent media journalists, but it’s important to continue to do so given the fact that science continues to go ignored by governments around the world. It doesn’t make sense why natural immunity is not included in health policy decisions.

This point has been emphasized by many experts in the field, including Marty Makary, a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health, editor-in-chief of Medpage Today. Last month he published an article in the Washington Post explaining the following:

“More than 15 studies have demonstrated the power of immunity acquired by previously having the virus. A 700,000-person study from Israel two weeks ago found that those who had experienced prior infections were 27 times less likely to get a second symptomatic covid infection than those who were vaccinated. This affirmed a June Cleveland Clinic study of health-care workers (who are often exposed to the virus), in which none who had previously tested positive for the coronavirus got reinfected. The study authors concluded that ‘individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from covid-19 vaccination.’ And in May, a Washington University study found that even a mild covid infection resulted in long-lasting immunity.”

The causative factor in this anomaly could be the Original Antigenic Sin:


The “original antigenic sin” and its relevance for SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) vaccination

Abstract

Imprinting of the specific molecular image of a given protein antigen into immunological memory is one of the hallmarks of immunity. A later contact with a related, but different antigen should not trigger the memory response (because the produced antibodies would not be effective). The preferential expansion of cross-reactive antibodies, or T-lymphocytes for that matter, by a related antigen has been termed the original antigenic sin and was first described by Thomas Francis Jr. in 1960. The phenomenon was initially described for influenza virus, but also has been found for dengue and rotavirus. The antibody dependent enhancement observed in feline coronavirus vaccination also may be related to the original antigenic sin. For a full interpretation of the effectivity of the immune response against SARS-CoV-2, as well as for the success of vaccination, the role of existing immunological memory against circulating corona viruses is reviewed and analyzed.

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In reviewing the data again, it is very wrong to force vaccines on people with natural antibodies to Covid-19. In fact, immunity is more complete the immunity provided by the vaccines. It's is a simple matter to verify immunity and establish credentials for those who have been infected.

Omicron, unfortunately, breaks the pattern. In South Africa, constant Omicron reinfection was an issue with this variant. The studies I've looked at suggest the Omicron even wiped out or scrambled prior immunity gained through infection with an earlier variant. Personally, I believe, antibody evasion is going to become the signature of SARS-CoV-2 moving into the future. It will render the 2021 vintage vaccines ineffectual. it is altogether likely that this coronavirus will develop herd immunity to our vaccine attempts and antibody strategies well before we ever achieve herd immunity to SARS-CoV-2.

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@Pluto's Republic and greatly overlooked point about Long long Covid which has concerned me since the beginning:

The virus is a long term threat. We don't talk about the fact that the virus does a great deal of long term damage to the body, even in mild and asymptomatic infections. This is not long covid. The virus sets the body up for all sorts of diseases of aging, from diabetes to Parkinsons, and several identified cancers. It causes the body to age more rapidly and will leave at least half of the infected with mental disorders. The virus may never actually leave the body. It retreats and goes dormant for a time in certain parts of the body where the immune system is not active. The science and studies are there, but no one is discussing them.

although I've only come across one or two studies and think many more studies need to be done, and much of the evidence for this won't be available until Covid has been out there a bit longer and then will be easier to detect and more difficult to ignore. So while I understand the thinking of the Jimmy Dores and some indy skeptics on the Covid Vaccines about everyone eventually getting infected and the benefits from a herd immunity/risk reduction standpoint, it seems wiser to me not to assume such a completely benign outcome, and so I will not be inclined to throw in the towel but will continue to try to ward it off to the best of my ability while continuing to live at least a 75% normal existence.

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and vaccination rates. That was very interesting.

What I wonder about now is how much anxiety based medical issues are playing a pert in all the stats regarding deaths etc.

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@Fishtroller 02 conditions. Treating the medical condition to a cure or improving baseline functionality has been a method in the past to reduce anxiety. Lack of access to medical care has been shown to increase death rate among a population base. (not taking the time to find a research article for stats for claim).

Managing Anxiety in the Medically Ill Psychiatric Times January 2015

Biologically, acute anxiety may be the first sign of exacerbation of an underlying illness, an undiagnosed medical condition, or substance intoxication or withdrawal. To aid in diagnosis, the patient examination includes a detailed history; focused physical examination; complete review of medications; collateral information; and diagnostic testing, such as toxicology screens. For example, a patient with a history of myocardial infarction may present to the ED with panic attacks along with palpitation and numbness. The treating physician must first rule out recurrent cardiac abnormalities, pulmonary issues, new-onset neurological abnormalities, medication or substance intoxication/withdrawal, and other conditions that require immediate interventions.

Some Examples
glaucoma

Conclusion A history of anxiety or both anxiety and depression in glaucoma suspects was associated with developing glaucoma during follow-up.

Parkinson's Disease (PD)

Anxiety affects up to 6% of patients with PD and it has been linked to sensory deficits. This also affects balance and movement control. It happens when certain sounds, sights, smells, textures, and tastes can create a feeling of sensory overload. Prior studies showed that with sensory feedback (SF), anxiety had a reduced effect on walking.


COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder)

Furthermore, determining the prevalence of anxiety in a COPD population is particularly difficult due to the overlap between symptoms of the disease and symptoms of anxiety 21. Questionnaires designed to screen for anxiety that include a large number of somatic complaints, such as breathlessness and fatigue, are likely to overestimate the prevalence of anxiety in COPD, since such symptoms may also be associated with the primary respiratory impairment. Notwithstanding these considerations, greater levels of anxiety have been reported in patients with COPD compared with those with heart disease and cancer

coronary artery disease (CAD)

In patients with established CAD, the literature regarding the relationship between anxiety and cardiac outcomes is similarly mixed. In a recent meta-analysis of 44 studies, anxiety was significantly associated with poor cardiac outcomes, including recurrent cardiac events and mortality, in unadjusted analyses [9•]. However, when adjusting for medical and psychological covariates, nearly all of these relationships became non-significant, suggesting that while anxiety may be a good marker of poor cardiac health, other medical and psychological factors may actually explain much of the relationship between anxiety and outcomes. In sensitivity analyses, there were no significant relationships between anxiety and cardiac health when anxiety was measured in the 2 months following an ACS; however, when anxiety was measured in patients with stable CAD, anxiety was associated with poor outcomes in nearly all analyses [9•]. Ultimately, it may be that anxiety following an ACS may be more likely to be transient than anxiety measured during a period of clinical stability. These findings argue that measuring anxiety in a stable period may be much more useful for predicting future cardiac health.

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I've been a glaucoma suspect for 13 years.... high eye pressure, no glaucoma yet. One thing I found concerning eye pressure is that anxiety can raise it, just like blood pressure. I have white coat syndrome when I see any medical people, but my blood pressure is great at home. It took awhile for the medical evidence to come in, but my eye pressure goes up at the eye doctor's. It's most likely fine or borderline at home, which would in part explain the fact that I don't have disease progression (I also take a boatload of eye friendly supplements).

Now my point here is that anxiety is definitely a huge effect on one's health and right now I would surmise that a good portion of this country is at a level of anxiety over multiple issues, the pandemic being a major contributor.... which could explain the sudden rise in heart issues etc. It certainly makes more sense than claiming all those raises in health issues are due to the vaccines.

We really won't know all the answers for awhile. Right now we just need to get the virus numbers to a point of management if only for the sake of the medical care givers.

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@Fishtroller 02 prevent or treat conditions is not something I want to see disappear.

Unless there is a control group of unvaccinated the question of increased cardiac conditions due to anxiety alone will not be answered.

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supporters. Imagine if one doesn't get a vaccine they're now labeled as racist/misogynist extremists, they're also science deniers and the most fascist of all "they're taking up space"

https://rairfoundation.com/fascist-psychopath-justin-trudeau-calls-the-u...

'Fascist Psychopath': Justin Trudeau Calls the Unvaccinated 'Racist and Misogynistic Extremists' (Video)

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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The left-wing Canadian leader questioned whether the country needed to “tolerate these people.” He further bashed anyone unvaccinated, smearing them as “science deniers.” Although those refusing to be injected are a “small group of the population,” states Trudeau, they are still “taking up space.”

Good lord he’s almost advocating for something right out of Hitler’s Germany. Or he actually is. I can’t see how anyone can defend him saying it, but I bet there are some who will. Just what does he want to do with those who are taking up space?

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@snoopydawg history shows you have to take them at their word, they want to get rid of us useless racist/misogynist/science deniers extremists, meaning all that don't comply plus whatever/whomever is next on the list.

Just what does he want to do with those who are taking up space?

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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Unvaccinated Are The New Jews

Trudeau’s dangerous unscientific attacks are precisely how you divide society, and genocides happen. As previously reported at RAIR Foundation USA, it is dangerous to brand people (the unvaccinated) as scapegoats, evil, sources of disease, or profiteers. Historically, there have been (and are) vast and conclusive examples of the genocidal playbook that all begin with the political and social dehumanization of the “offending” population.

Early last year, 94-year-old Auschwitz survivor Marian Turski gave a speech during the commemoration of the 75th anniversary of the camp’s liberation. The Polish Holocaust survivor reminded the audience that the Holocaust didn’t’ start with death camps. Instead, it began with propaganda, scaremongering, scapegoating, segregation, and exclusion. Then, it was an easy next step to strip further rights, dehumanize, and brutally extinguish that minority.

This is what many people are advocating for. I can’t tell you how many diaries I’ve read on DK saying that the unjabbed shouldn’t be allowed to take up hospital beds because they have made their choice not to be jabbed. Dentists are allowed to refuse to treat anyone who isn’t even though they aren’t allowed to not see people who are HIV positive. Many doctors have made that decision too and it makes no f’cking sense because the damn jab doesn’t prevent infection or spreading. But I guess that’s following Fauci’s science. Even though he’s admitting it. Doctors are being threatened with their medical licenses if they prescribe anything besides what Fauci has told them or for speaking out against vaccines. This has nothing to do with health at this point. It’s pushing authoritarian on health care.

Time to repost this article.

Letter to a Colluder: Stop Enabling Tyranny

“A few hundred at the top, to plan and direct at every level; a few thousand to supervise and control (without a voice in policy) at every level; a few score thousand specialists (teachers, lawyers, journalists, scientists, artists, actors, athletes, and social workers) eager to serve or at least unwilling to pass up a job or to revolt; a million of the Pöbel, which sounds like ‘people’ and means ‘riffraff,’ to do what we would call the dirty work, ranging from murder, torture, robbery, and arson to the effort which probably employed more Germans in inhumanity than any other in Nazi history, the standing of ‘sentry’ in front of Jewish shops and offices in the boycott of April, 1933.”

—Milton Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933–45 (paperback, Kindle, audiobook)

I’m willing to die to defend my liberty. Are you willing to die to take my liberty?

No? Good. Then stop enforcing totalitarian measures against your neighbors on behalf of the tyrants, who wouldn’t hesitate to annihilate you. Stop planning, directing, supervising, controlling, and performing their dirty work. Become part of the resistance instead of an enabler of democidal despots.

Whether you are a law enforcement officer, public health official, psychologist, scientist, medical professional, educator, employer, censor, propagandist, or any other agent of complicity in this war against the people, you are what makes dictatorships possible. You are what makes enslavement possible. You are what makes genocide possible. You are what makes the Biggest Lie in history possible.

You simply need to live in fear. You simply need to cling to your ignorance. You simply need to follow the leader. You simply need to surrender to cowardice.

So this is how liberty dies . . . with thunderous applause.

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@snoopydawg Dental work necessarily creates aerosols. An HIV+ person therefore does not pose the same risk to the dentist and hygienist and all of the next patients coming into that room that a COVID+ person does. HIV is not an aerosolized transmission; covid is. It makes perfect sense that dentists would want to take every precaution to reduce their risk of exposure. Now that fast tests are available, they can require that all patients get tested, but that’s only a recent option.

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in their nasal passages and larynx as the unvaxxed.

(Rephrased)


Statement from CDC Director Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, MPH on Today’s MMWR Media Statement

For Immediate Release: Friday, July 30, 2021

Today, some of those data were published in CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), demonstrating that Delta infection resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people. High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated people infected with Delta can transmit the virus. This finding is concerning and was a pivotal discovery leading to CDC’s updated mask recommendation. The masking recommendation was updated to ensure the vaccinated public would not unknowingly transmit virus to others, including their unvaccinated or immunocompromised loved ones.

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are not reliable enough at present. Also, as the virus mutates it will become a never ending cycle - like the influenza virus.

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Silicon Valley Should Not Restrict Public Discourse About Covid Measures Which Affect Everyone
December 30, 2021

Twitter has banned the account of controversial virologist Dr Robert Malone, who reportedly had half a million followers at the time of his removal. Malone is credited even by mainstream critics as having played a significant role in the development of the mRNA technology being used for Covid-19 vaccines today, but has recently come under fire for comments about the safety of those vaccines’ use on children which the Authorized Fact Checkers have labeled “dangerously and flagrantly incorrect.”

Everyone should oppose the removal of Malone and commentators who share his views, regardless of whether they agree with them or vehemently despise them. The reason for this is very simple: only a fool would support government-tied monopolistic billionaire corporations regulating public discourse about Covid responses which affect us all. This is true regardless of what you personally happen to believe about mRNA vaccines.
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Even if we were to accept unconditionally the position that people should be banned from such platforms if they are posting “misinformation”, who exactly do we imagine would be determining whether something is misinformation or not? Will we be consulting some impartial, agendaless, omniscient demigod through some sort of crystal ball or magical rune portal? Or would we in fact be relying on flawed human beings looking at the information through the lens of their own cognitive biases, agendas, perceptual distortions and knowledge limitations?
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The future of humanity depends on our ability to bring light to the darkness, to bring awareness to that of which we are not aware.
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Vaccine Efficacy Needed for a COVID-19 Coronavirus Vaccine to Prevent or Stop an Epidemic as the Sole Intervention
July 15, 2020

The R0 maximum in that study was 3.5. The current Delta and the newer Omicron have much higher R0's. We cannot vaccinate ourselves out of this one. The efficacy of the current mRNA therapies ranges from about 80% at best and rapidly drops to 20-30% within 3-4 months. This will mean giving well over a billion jabs per year just to cover 80% of the population.

Omicron variant and booster COVID-19 vaccines
2021 Dec 17
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The original strain of SARS-CoV-2 has an R0 of 2.5, while the delta variant (B.1.617.2) has an R0 of just under 7. Martin Hibberd, professor of emerging infectious diseases at London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine (London, UK), reckons omicron's R0 could be as high as 10....
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It is time to switch to prophylaxis such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to be administered in the very first stages. These cost pennies to produce and could be manufactured in weeks. They both have extensive documented safety records of well over 50 years in age groups from infants to the extreme elderly. Even pregnancy and those with dozens of comorbidity have been tested safe.

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You're singing my song...

It is time to switch to prophylaxis such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to be administered in the very first stages. These cost pennies to produce and could be manufactured in weeks. They both have extensive documented safety records of well over 50 years in age groups from infants to the extreme elderly. Even pregnancy and those with dozens of comorbidity have been tested safe.

I would add to the prevention list the usual litany...Vit D (+K), Vit C, Zn, etc. as well as add the term "early treatment".

I'm convinced this would have been over long ago had we done so.

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@CB United States were not going to create herd immunity. The logic used in the computer model may possibly be the reasoning for vaccine mandates and forcing vaccines on children of younger and younger ages.

In your words

We cannot vaccinate ourselves out of this one. The efficacy of the current mRNA therapies ranges from about 80% at best and rapidly drops to 20-30% within 3-4 months. This will mean giving well over a billion jabs per year just to cover 80% of the population.

Background Information
R0

The basic reproduction number (R0), pronounced “R naught,” is intended to be an indicator of the contagiousness or transmissibility of infectious and parasitic agents. R0 is often encountered in the epidemiology and public health literature and can also be found in the popular press. R0 has been described as being one of the fundamental and most often used metrics for the study of infectious disease dynamics.
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The potential size of an outbreak or epidemic often is based on the magnitude of the R0 value for that event, and R0 can be used to estimate the proportion of the population that must be vaccinated to eliminate an infection from that population. R0 values have been published for measles, polio, influenza, Ebola virus disease, HIV disease, a diversity of vectorborne infectious diseases, and many other communicable diseases.

The concept of R0 was first introduced in the field of demography, where this metric was used to count offspring. When R0 was adopted for use by epidemiologists, the objects being counted were infective cases. Numerous definitions for R0 have been proposed. Although the basic conceptual framework is similar for each, the operational definitions are not always identical.

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@studentofearth
if the vaxxed carry the same viral load as the unvaxxed.

See my post above:

https://caucus99percent.com/comment/554999#comment-554999

We've got to get 'herd immunity' the old fashioned way. Contracting the disease and gaining natural immunity. Unfortunate due to confounding issues with the vaxxed, we may have to depend on the unvaxxed to lead the way.

I'll have to dig up articles by Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche who explains this.

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@CB article will not be occurring with the current mRNA products. I have not looked into research and data on other vaccines used around the world.

It may simply show the logic being used by government bodies to justify their current policies.

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was warning early on that not only was mass vaccination into a viral pandemic unlikely to work but that it was a really bad idea - likely distorting the usual evolutionary trajectory toward greater infectivity and reduced virulence to one where more (and possibly progressively more) virulent strains could have the opportunity to develop and spread.

Natural News 3/15/21

He didn't cite Marek's Virus as an example, but it serves to illustrate how the process can work:

The deadliest strains of viruses often take care of themselves — they flare up and then die out. This is because they are so good at destroying cells and causing illness that they ultimately kill their host before they have time to spread.

But a chicken virus that represents one of the deadliest germs in history breaks from this conventional wisdom, thanks to an inadvertent effect from a vaccine. Chickens vaccinated against Marek’s disease rarely get sick. But the vaccine does not prevent them from spreading Marek’s to unvaccinated birds.

“With the hottest strains, every unvaccinated bird dies within 10 days. There is no human virus that is that hot. Ebola, for example, doesn’t kill everything in 10 days.”
In fact, rather than stop fowl from spreading the virus, the vaccine allows the disease to spread faster and longer than it normally would, a new study finds. The scientists now believe that this vaccine has helped this chicken virus become uniquely virulent.

from PBS (2015)

According to Dr. McCullough Omicron is out-evolving and effectively working to eliminate the more dangerous Delta. So perhaps with Omicron natural evolution is doing us a favor?

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and hydroxychloroquine to be administered in the very first stages.
There is no doubt, in my mind, that this is true. It is actually beyond
time to administer preventatives, as many countries have found a
very good response. As you say, we will never jab our way out of this.
But for some reason ($$$) the world medical establishments have
their marching orders already, and big Pharma is calling the tune.

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Unfortunately it was even hidden by the Modi government who had been given lucrative manufacturing licenses to produce vaccines by Pfizer and ohers. He was responsible for allowing hundreds of thousands to die in pursuit of profits. The very same as the US did.

India's Ivermectin Blackout - Part V: The Secret Revealed
Sep 27, 2021
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO9cjy3Rydc]
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Each home kit contained the following: Paracetamol tablets [tylenol], Vitamin C, Multivitamin, Zinc, Vitamin D3, Ivermectin 12 mg [quantity #10 tablets], Doxycycline 100 mg [quantity #10 tablets]. Other non-medication components included face masks, sanitizer, gloves and alcohol wipes, a digital thermometer, and a pulse oximeter. See mark 2:33.

Campbell reports that the exciting things in the kit that grabbed his attention were: Zinc, Vitamin D3, Ivermectin, and secondary antibiotic treatment. "Interesting, that’s what the government decided to give." See mark 3:40
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Even it's use has been suppressed. Featuring a flawed study tomorrow,but here's a taste of their conversation and some overwhelming evidence for ole Vit D. (15 min)
Bret Speaks with Gruff Davies and Linda Benskin on the subject of Vitamin D as a preventative measure for Covid.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3bkO0maiSI]

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It is the first time I saw Dr. Malone speaking and saw his face. I browsed the site a bit.
I can't get rid of the feeling that there is something odd with it.

I am also very confused about the quotes that were posted from Trudeau. How real are they?
He sounded like a mad man lunatic. Has he lost his mind?

Thanks for any answer.

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He is not in charge in Canada. The Deputy Prime Minister who is also the Finance Minister, Chrystia Freeland, is the power behind "the throne". She is also on the Board of Trustees at the WEF.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3R6ZyP8RUc]

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speaking as Mr. Malone. I can't pull the site back up. This guy sounds drunk. I am sober.

Gets annoying.

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from the video that he made which caused him to be dismissed from Twitter, I thought I would follow up with a video from a scientist named Eitan Okun in Israel. He took a look at all the points made by Malone in his video and posted his own video where he addresses each of Malone's points.

I am sharing this for anyone here who is interested in a scientist explaining both how the vaccines work and why he feels Dr. Malone is in error.

In formation about Okun from the Michael J. Fox Parkinson's organization...

Dr. Okun received his PhD from Bar Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel, in 2006. From 2007 to 2011, he obtained postdoctoral training at the National Institute of Health, National Institute on Aging, in the Laboratory of Neurosciences. In 2011, he moved to the Mina and Everard Goodman faculty of Life Sciences in Bar Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel as a senior lecturer. Here he leads a versatile research team aimed at understanding the pathogenesis of neurodegenerative disorders, such as Parkinson’s disease, Alzheimer’s disease, Huntington’s disease and ischemic brain stroke, as well as the molecular mechanisms governing learning and memory processes during aging. These goals are accomplished using state-of-the-art techniques from molecular biology tools to cognitive behavior tasks that allow molecular understand of complex behaviors in pre-clinical models.

A Scientist's analysis of Dr. Robert Malone's video on the risks of COVID19 mRNA vaccines to children.

My name is Prof. Eitan Okun, and I am a neuroimmunologist at Bar Ilan University, studying vaccines in the elderly and in brain pathologies.
I have recently come across this short clip by Dr. Robert Malone who claims that the mRNA vaccines against COVID19 cause irreparable damage specifically in children. In this video
I'm responding to Dr. Malone's claims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB-atd80Ff8

Links to scientific papers mentioned in this video:
1. The effects of COVID19 infection on pregnancy:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34958...
2. Quantifying the number of viruses in infected individuals:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc...
3. The SPIKE protein can promote Parkinson's disease:
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsc...
4. Information on the controversies of Robert Malone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_...
5. A video on COVID19 and its risk for fertility:
https://youtu.be/_ffLS7m3qAc
6. A paper on how the SPIKE protein impairs DNA damage repair:
https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/10/...

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@Fishtroller 02 None of the references provided include research on vaccines, mRNA vaccines in general, specific vaccine information provided by manufacturer or ongoing research project to answer specific questions. References only look at Covid virus effects or opinions regarding Dr Malone.

Viewer has to trust expertise of Eitan Okun, PhD. Since he spends a significant amount of time on personal slander I have no opinion on his ability to perform critical analysis published and ongoing scientific research.

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who claims that the virus spike is cytotoxic, a claim that has been heavily criticized by other scientists who also worked on the mRNA technology (Malone is not the originator of the tech nor the inventor of the vaccine).

Or you can go with RFK Jr. who is an expert on slander and whose claims about vaccines and autism went the way of the dinosaur years ago.

I provided this because there is little to no balance to this conversation, but there are people who wish to see it. Malone puts his disinformation and distortions out on plenty of venues (like Joe Rogan). He should expect blowback. In the meantime, he is trying to frighten every parent within earshot. I don't find that exemplary, nor should it be immune to criticism.

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@Fishtroller 02 without validating the quality of the information being presented. Malone and RFK Jr opinions I have listened to or read have been consistent with the references and footnotes they provided or my understanding of the subject.

Okun references did not support his opinions. Showed potential weakness of his analysis and/or disrespect to the knowledge of his audience.

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Here's a quick overview. I'm sure Dr Malone can back up his statements. Otherwise he would have not made them.

Error #1:

05:45 as opposed to the viral. moreover since the mRNA in the vaccine breaks down within roughly two days.
05:51 the number of spike proteins produced by the vaccine itself is limited both in number and
05:56 time and after several days there is no trace of the vaccine-induced spike protein therefore

How long mRNA lasts in the body

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines work by introducing mRNA (messenger RNA) into your muscle cells. The cells make copies of the spike protein and the mRNA is quickly degraded (within a few days). The cell breaks the mRNA up into small harmless pieces. mRNA is very fragile; that's one reason why mRNA vaccines must be so carefully preserved at very low temperatures.

How long spike proteins last in the body

The Infectious Disease Society of America (IDSA) estimates that the spike proteins that were generated by COVID-19 vaccines last up to a few weeks, like other proteins made by the body. The immune system quickly identifies, attacks and destroys the spike proteins because it recognizes them as not part of you. This "learning the enemy" process is how the immune system figures out how to defeat the real coronavirus. It remembers what it saw and when you are exposed to coronavirus in the future it can rapidly mount an effective immune response.

Error #2:

06:02 claiming that you should not be vaccinated because the spike protein in the vaccine will damage you
06:31 these organs include their brain and nervous system their heart and blood vessels including
06:37 blood clots their reproductive system". Dr. Malone actually claims that vaccinating against the spike
06:45 protein of the SARS-CoV-2 virus causes damage to various organs. this is clearly false information.
06:51 in fact there is no evidence or a study that supports these claims which completely discredits
06:57 Dr. Malone's claims. it is a shame that a person that decades ago was familiar with the rigorous

The novel coronavirus’ spike protein plays additional key role in illness
Salk researchers and collaborators show how the protein damages cells, confirming COVID-19 as a primarily vascular disease
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“A lot of people think of it as a respiratory disease, but it’s really a vascular disease,” says Assistant Research Professor Uri Manor, who is co-senior author of the study. “That could explain why some people have strokes, and why some people have issues in other parts of the body. The commonality between them is that they all have vascular underpinnings.”

Salk researchers collaborated with scientists at the University of California San Diego on the paper, including co-first author Jiao Zhang and co-senior author John Shyy, among others.

While the findings themselves aren’t entirely a surprise, the paper provides clear confirmation and a detailed explanation of the mechanism through which the protein damages vascular cells for the first time. There’s been a growing consensus that SARS-CoV-2 affects the vascular system, but exactly how it did so was not understood. Similarly, scientists studying other coronaviruses have long suspected that the spike protein contributed to damaging vascular endothelial cells, but this is the first time the process has been documented.

In the new study, the researchers created a “pseudovirus” that was surrounded by SARS-CoV-2 classic crown of spike proteins, but did not contain any actual virus. Exposure to this pseudovirus resulted in damage to the lungs and arteries of an animal model—proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease. Tissue samples showed inflammation in endothelial cells lining the pulmonary artery walls.
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New-Onset Neurologic Symptoms and Related Neuro-Oncologic Lesions Discovered After COVID-19 Vaccination: Two Neurosurgical Cases and Review of Post-Vaccine Inflammatory Responses
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Abstract

A global effort is underway to distribute coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccines to limit the crisis. Although adverse events related to vaccination are rare, there have been cases of new-onset neurologic symptoms following vaccination. We present two cases of new-onset neurologic symptoms post-vaccination that, upon further workup, revealed two different neuro-oncologic processes requiring neurosurgical intervention and further treatment. We hypothesize that despite these processes being unrelated to vaccination, the COVID-19 vaccines may induce an inflammatory cascade with the ability to uncover underlying sinister pathology. Our report therefore emphasizes the need for careful evaluation in the setting of new-onset neurologic symptoms after COVID-19 vaccination.

Error #3:

08:02 heart etc. "You cannot repair a genetically reset immune system". This sentence is a real puzzle
08:10 for me there is no such term as genetically reset immune system not in the context of vaccinations
08:16 anyways so this sentence sounds frightening as i assume was the meaning of it but it belongs to the
08:23 realms of science fiction rather than science and this vaccine can cause reproductive damage
08:32 that could affect future generations of your family this is another well-known fake claim

The BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 reprograms both adaptive and innate immune responses
Summary

The mRNA-based BNT162b2 vaccine from Pfizer/BioNTech was the first registered COVID-19 vaccine and has been shown to be up to 95% effective in preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections. Little is known about the broad effects of the new class of mRNA vaccines, especially whether they have combined effects on innate and adaptive immune responses. Here we confirmed that BNT162b2 vaccination of healthy individuals induced effective humoral and cellular immunity against several SARS-CoV-2 variants. Interestingly, however, the BNT162b2 vaccine also modulated the production of inflammatory cytokines by innate immune cells upon stimulation with both specific (SARS-CoV-2) and non-specific (viral, fungal and bacterial) stimuli. The response of innate immune cells to TLR4 and TLR7/8 ligands was lower after BNT162b2 vaccination, while fungi-induced cytokine responses were stronger. In conclusion, the mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine induces complex functional reprogramming of innate immune responses, which should be considered in the development and use of this new class of vaccines.

Error #4:

11:56 5.36 million people died at the time of preparing this video as a result of this particular virus
12:03 alone it is clear that in absence of vaccines this number would have been much much higher

Countries have started to recount the true cause of deaths downwards.

Error #5:

12:40 research done in the past two years has shown that the viral load among
12:44 non-vaccinated individuals including children is significantly higher

The CDC says the viral loads are the same

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in the Rogan podcast. He even explains the lesions that happen in the brain and elsewhere in the body because the spike protein doesn’t stay in the arm injected, but travels to every organ in the body and especially in the reproductive areas. The hit jobs against him are like 1st graders grading a doctorate student’s paper. He knows what he’s talking about. He should since he’s been involved with it his entire career.

I’m only half way through the video and have learned a lot more. He got Covid, got long Covid, got jabbed twice and had severe adverse reactions to them and then got Covid again. Yeah I can see why he’s not hesitant to say what he does about the vaccines gene therapy. Pfizer’s own website calls them that as does Moderna and its CEO. Weird huh?

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especially when Dr. Malone is featured so I had to spell it out.

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Guess I forgot to say that. Hope it helps with the weird fixation on him.

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clinical evidence of brain lesions in actual children, it's all conjecture.

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First of all, Dr. Malone adheres do that old medical axiom "First do no harm". To date, less then 2000 5-11 yr old children have been vaxxed under Pfizer's 3 month trials they have been forced to reveal.

Try searching DuckDuck with: lesions covid spike proteins
I'm sure Dr. Malone knows about his specialties in medicine!

COVID-19 mRNA vaccination leading to CNS inflammation: a case series
2021 Sep 4

New brain MRI enhancing lesions
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8417681/table/Tab1/?report=...

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preconceived opinions and don’t do much to change minds made up as seen when they have been posted numerous times. Good grief I think that horse has turned into pulp with all the beatings it’s gotten.

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but they simply do not seem register.

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know, if I am gone to never-ever land, you won't have fun anymore.

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https://open.spotify.com/episode/3SCsueX2bZdbEzRtKOCEyT?go=1&sp_cid=bb77...

OK - I know most of you have seen the photo above- but for me, it is one that could go in my obituary.

People are writing, calling, texting me in support. I can only humbly say - thank you. I have no words -other than offering back my support for each and every one of you who is doing their part to stop the mandates, the authoritarianism, the totalitarianism, the vaccination of kids - in the face of severe adverse events, many deaths, including children and lack of data on long-term consequences. I am heartbroken for this country.

I think over the course of three hours Joe and I lay out just how dire the situation is in the USA. I know it is a long interview, but please try to get friends and family to watch or listen to this - maybe it can change some closed minds. I seriously hope so.

Some people have said how much they miss all my posts on twitter - and could I do a compilation of new-stories, memes, etc - of the type I post on twitter. So, I am going to give it a try. If people like it, I will try to get something out like this daily.
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As to what triggered Twitter, the last thing I posted related to this excellent summary of the Pfizer malfeasance and data manipulation in their “Comirnaty” vaccine clinical studies.

This is censorship. Pure and simple. This is what our country has come to. No better than China. So, I join the ranks of other patriots for freedom who have been banned.
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It showed Pfizer’s malfeasance and malpractice and IMO out right fraud. There’s no way it should have gotten even the EAU because it doesn’t do much of anything for people, but it does a lot to them. High risk for little gain. I learned why Pfizer probably won’t use the jab that got authorized, but I’ve forgotten it already. Something to do with tests I think. They don’t want to do them for all to see. I’ll have to rewatch it again. Damn memory.

But 50 million new followers. Yippee. There are so many people taking the precautionary meds and vitamins I’d love to know how many lives have been saved. A hella lot more than with remdisiver and ventilators.

Did you catch who is behind the censorship on the podcast? No other than Pfizer itself. Yeah no conflict of interest with that. In the article I posted from Margaret there is a video from a nurse that talks about what she’s seeing in her hospital.

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Good evening, United States Citizens. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of everyday routine- the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration, whereby those important events of the past, usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, a celebration of a nice holiday, I thought we could mark this December the 31st by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat. There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission.

How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, fake disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Tony “the Jab” Fauci. He promised you immunity, he promised you life for your grandparents, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent to be vaxxed and wear a face diaper.

Tonight, I seek to end that silence. Tonight, I simply say, “No. I will not comply,” to remind this country of what it has forgotten. Almost 250 years ago great citizens wished to embed our rights onto a document that would be the law of this land. Their hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are God given rights. So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you, then I would suggest you allow the 31st of December to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me and together say, “No! We will not comply. To hell with your mandates.” In this way, we shall give them a 31st of December that shall never, ever be forgot. Together we are legion. They can not win against us.

I’m taking this.

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Bet it is really expensive!
The first 6 months of the pandemic did scare me. Not because I would die, but because my business would take a hit. It is my economic hit that had me scared, depressed, just wondering how I keep any normalcy going forward. I just never thought any of this shit would kill me. I have to believe I had the Alpha, according to the antibodies test. And I am not dead. (As far as I know.)

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who wish to be free of corporate interests.

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@snoopydawg I am so sure Fukitol was rigorously test.
I want it now!

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