From the Canadian COVID Care Alliance in Canada comes a remarkable video and slide deck (PDF) examining the shortcomings of Pfizer’s clinical trials data of their mRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” gene therapy.
Their conclusions are summarized:
It’s clear that Pfizer - and the agencies overseeing their trials - failed to follow established, high quality safety and efficacy protocols right from the beginning.
We have presented Level 1 evidence of harm from Pfizer’s own trial data. Any government which has approved these inoculations, much less mandated them, knew or should have known from the available data that harm would be caused to its citizens.
Any government that approved this medical intervention for its citizens should have ensured that the trial had used the appropriate clinical endpoints and high quality safety science.
Any government official who possesses this evidence and continues to allow its citizens to be inoculated with a toxic agent is, at the very least, negligent.
Please watch and/or read to learn about just how inadequate, and even reckless, the hurried EUA approval process and the flawed and truncated clinical trials were. The public was clearly misled and lied to (by omission) about both the safety and efficacy of this product.
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Not sure how much governments, agencies and ministries got to see before taking their lead from the US, which seems to be a world wide thing.
Fauci and his friends have done all they can to hide how things were done or not.
ETA: I saw your comment about using death all causes data. Yes it's the best way to at least get a sense of what is going on.
From the Canadian COVID Care Alliance in Canada comes a remarkable video and slide deck (PDF) examining the shortcomings of Pfizer’s clinical trials data of their mRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” gene therapy.
Their conclusions are summarized:
It’s clear that Pfizer - and the agencies overseeing their trials - failed to follow established, high quality safety and efficacy protocols right from the beginning.
We have presented Level 1 evidence of harm from Pfizer’s own trial data. Any government which has approved these inoculations, much less mandated them, knew or should have known from the available data that harm would be caused to its citizens.
Any government that approved this medical intervention for its citizens should have ensured that the trial had used the appropriate clinical endpoints and high quality safety science.
Any government official who possesses this evidence and continues to allow its citizens to be inoculated with a toxic agent is, at the very least, negligent.
Please watch and/or read to learn about just how inadequate, and even reckless, the hurried EUA approval process and the flawed and truncated clinical trials were. The public was clearly misled and lied to (by omission) about both the safety and efficacy of this product.
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Biggest thing to take from it is Pfizer ran a shoddy if not fraudulent trial. Their jab is less than 1% effective at keeping you from getting Covid and actually causes more chance of illness and a higher risk of death. This study is what lawyers against mandates should be using. The material used in the article and video was taken directly from the information that Pfizer has released. No wonder they want to wait 75 to release it. It’s a good thing that they have received immunity from lawsuits because their own information is the smoking gun that they knew they would cause harm to people.
From the Canadian COVID Care Alliance in Canada comes a remarkable video and slide deck (PDF) examining the shortcomings of Pfizer’s clinical trials data of their mRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” gene therapy.
Their conclusions are summarized:
It’s clear that Pfizer - and the agencies overseeing their trials - failed to follow established, high quality safety and efficacy protocols right from the beginning.
We have presented Level 1 evidence of harm from Pfizer’s own trial data. Any government which has approved these inoculations, much less mandated them, knew or should have known from the available data that harm would be caused to its citizens.
Any government that approved this medical intervention for its citizens should have ensured that the trial had used the appropriate clinical endpoints and high quality safety science.
Any government official who possesses this evidence and continues to allow its citizens to be inoculated with a toxic agent is, at the very least, negligent.
Please watch and/or read to learn about just how inadequate, and even reckless, the hurried EUA approval process and the flawed and truncated clinical trials were. The public was clearly misled and lied to (by omission) about both the safety and efficacy of this product.
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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Biggest thing to take from it is Pfizer ran a shoddy if not fraudulent trial. Their jab is less than 1% effective at keeping you from getting Covid and actually causes more chance of illness and a higher risk of death. This study is what lawyers against mandates should be using. The material used in the article and video was taken directly from the information that Pfizer has released. No wonder they want to wait 75 to release it. It’s a good thing that they have received immunity from lawsuits because their own information is the smoking gun that they knew they would cause harm to people.
I’d love to see some discussion on it as well as the article opal posted. This would be big news if the media covered it instead of giving Pfizer cover for their lying about the vaccines and how well they protect people.
Biggest thing to take from it is Pfizer ran a shoddy if not fraudulent trial. Their jab is less than 1% effective at keeping you from getting Covid and actually causes more chance of illness and a higher risk of death. This study is what lawyers against mandates should be using. The material used in the article and video was taken directly from the information that Pfizer has released. No wonder they want to wait 75 to release it. It’s a good thing that they have received immunity from lawsuits because their own information is the smoking gun that they knew they would cause harm to people.
I’d love to see some discussion on it as well as the article opal posted. This would be big news if the media covered it instead of giving Pfizer cover for their lying about the vaccines and how well they protect people.
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Thanks for replying on it. Any links you need should be in the main article. It proves that Pfizer’s testing was fraudulent because they left so many people out and lost so many others. Especially the ones for kids. Using previous data that was outdated, but Fauci let them pass it anyway?
#1.2.2 It is a good straightforward presentation. I want to watch it again to be sure it's sourced well.
This is the type of information that should help inform those who need to understand what has been going on.
All of us?
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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Thanks for replying on it. Any links you need should be in the main article. It proves that Pfizer’s testing was fraudulent because they left so many people out and lost so many others. Especially the ones for kids. Using previous data that was outdated, but Fauci let them pass it anyway?
I’d love to see some discussion on it as well as the article opal posted. This would be big news if the media covered it instead of giving Pfizer cover for their lying about the vaccines and how well they protect people.
@snoopydawg
and lots of unpacking. I will watch it tomorrow, for sure.
Did you mean Ovals, instead of opal? I have been thinking about him a lot, and what he would have to say about current events.
Biggest thing to take from it is Pfizer ran a shoddy if not fraudulent trial. Their jab is less than 1% effective at keeping you from getting Covid and actually causes more chance of illness and a higher risk of death. This study is what lawyers against mandates should be using. The material used in the article and video was taken directly from the information that Pfizer has released. No wonder they want to wait 75 to release it. It’s a good thing that they have received immunity from lawsuits because their own information is the smoking gun that they knew they would cause harm to people.
Yes. I guess I’ve done that all day. It’s what I get for using my memory instead of looking at his name. Heh I love to think about what opal would be making of this.
#1.2 and lots of unpacking. I will watch it tomorrow, for sure.
Did you mean Ovals, instead of opal? I have been thinking about him a lot, and what he would have to say about current events.
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have better data to evaluate risk benefit which should have been done by Pfizer for their product. Looking forward seeing similar data on all the products to evaluate efficacy and safety each one for various age groups and health status.
From the Canadian COVID Care Alliance in Canada comes a remarkable video and slide deck (PDF) examining the shortcomings of Pfizer’s clinical trials data of their mRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” gene therapy.
Their conclusions are summarized:
It’s clear that Pfizer - and the agencies overseeing their trials - failed to follow established, high quality safety and efficacy protocols right from the beginning.
We have presented Level 1 evidence of harm from Pfizer’s own trial data. Any government which has approved these inoculations, much less mandated them, knew or should have known from the available data that harm would be caused to its citizens.
Any government that approved this medical intervention for its citizens should have ensured that the trial had used the appropriate clinical endpoints and high quality safety science.
Any government official who possesses this evidence and continues to allow its citizens to be inoculated with a toxic agent is, at the very least, negligent.
Please watch and/or read to learn about just how inadequate, and even reckless, the hurried EUA approval process and the flawed and truncated clinical trials were. The public was clearly misled and lied to (by omission) about both the safety and efficacy of this product.
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President Biden’s chief medical aide, Anthony Fauci, the senior US Covid-19 adviser and national institute director, is slated to receive over $350,000 in annual retirement benefits – the largest in the US government’s history.
Fauci told ABC News earlier this month that he would not step down
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Twitter suspends virologist Robert Malone
Big Tech has silenced the US vaccine researcher famous for helping invent mRNA technology..
Many policies, like vaccine mandates or hoarding of vaccines by wealthy countries, are not based on science, Malone believes. He also speaks critically about the influence that large pharmaceutical companies and wealthy individuals like Bill Gates have on global health affairs.
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Extreme pandemic disparities are not unique to the United States. Oxfam reports that from March 18 to the end of 2020, global billionaire wealth increased by $3.9 trillion. By contrast, global workers’ combined earnings fell by $3.7 trillion, according to the International Labour Organization, as millions lost their jobs around the world.
While U.S. billionaires are seeing their fortunes expand, the pandemic recession has hit low-income workers hardest.
@QMS
from the complete control he has managed to attain over the health regulatory agencies in the US during the preceding 50 years. He has already amassed more money than he can ever spend but it is the power and control that motivates him.
He can say ANYTHING in order to manipulate those around him - even giving quite contrary 'advice' and even lying on aspects of how the country should handle the COVID-19 pandemic from week to week. Unfortunately the captured media and half of the legislators and voters will follow these commands in complete lockstep without a backwards thought.
I am afraid that J. Edgar Fauci will never resign but will die peacefully and untroubled in his sleep despite the deaths and destruction he has wreaked on the world. This man has no conscience.
Snakes in Suits (2006) examines the type of psychopath that is not necessarily violent, and who doesn’t end up in prison. These high-functioning psychopaths don a suit instead of a jumpsuit, and make it to the top of their organizations.
President Biden’s chief medical aide, Anthony Fauci, the senior US Covid-19 adviser and national institute director, is slated to receive over $350,000 in annual retirement benefits – the largest in the US government’s history.
Fauci told ABC News earlier this month that he would not step down
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Twitter suspends virologist Robert Malone
Big Tech has silenced the US vaccine researcher famous for helping invent mRNA technology..
Many policies, like vaccine mandates or hoarding of vaccines by wealthy countries, are not based on science, Malone believes. He also speaks critically about the influence that large pharmaceutical companies and wealthy individuals like Bill Gates have on global health affairs.
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Extreme pandemic disparities are not unique to the United States. Oxfam reports that from March 18 to the end of 2020, global billionaire wealth increased by $3.9 trillion. By contrast, global workers’ combined earnings fell by $3.7 trillion, according to the International Labour Organization, as millions lost their jobs around the world.
While U.S. billionaires are seeing their fortunes expand, the pandemic recession has hit low-income workers hardest.
@CB
J. Edgar Hoover complained that he could not win against the CIA under Dulles. In a short time he and his successors have wrought havoc on the US and the rest of the world.
Your use of psychopath couldn't be more apt.
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from the complete control he has managed to attain over the health regulatory agencies in the US during the preceding 50 years. He has already amassed more money than he can ever spend but it is the power and control that motivates him.
He can say ANYTHING in order to manipulate those around him - even giving quite contrary 'advice' and even lying on aspects of how the country should handle the COVID-19 pandemic from week to week. Unfortunately the captured media and half of the legislators and voters will follow these commands in complete lockstep without a backwards thought.
I am afraid that J. Edgar Fauci will never resign but will die peacefully and untroubled in his sleep despite the deaths and destruction he has wreaked on the world. This man has no conscience.
Snakes in Suits (2006) examines the type of psychopath that is not necessarily violent, and who doesn’t end up in prison. These high-functioning psychopaths don a suit instead of a jumpsuit, and make it to the top of their organizations.
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Around 80% of English hospital admissions with coronavirus are admitted for other reasons
December 21, England
Covid patients in hospital = 6,245
Up 259 from previous week
Of the 259, just 45 admitted because of the virus
Of the 259, admitted, 214 for other conditions but having also tested positive “incidental Covid” admissions
If you've seen any MSM, all you've heard the hysteria about the number of cases, but not the mildness of the disease.
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@Lookout
cases. There is never an attempt to clarify how many are sick with or in hospitals for other reasons.
People are tired of the fear mongering, but don't know how to determine what is really going on.
We can only hope the truth will leak from so many sources, planned and unplanned, that eventually in addition to the adverse events experienced by friends and family, many will resist.
Around 80% of English hospital admissions with coronavirus are admitted for other reasons
December 21, England
Covid patients in hospital = 6,245
Up 259 from previous week
Of the 259, just 45 admitted because of the virus
Of the 259, admitted, 214 for other conditions but having also tested positive “incidental Covid” admissions
If you've seen any MSM, all you've heard the hysteria about the number of cases, but not the mildness of the disease.
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An old Buddhist saying. Usually followed by, "Why will no one use this method?"
Snark aside, and apologies for it...
The open door I see is the repeated long enduring reporting of Omicron as Mild. At first people could say that it is a slow developing variant, so just you all wait. You'll see. It is scary, I tell you. Scary.
That BS has expired. Omicron is mild. The PCR tests coming up with huge positives are suspect, only marginally useful. (That's why Biden is dumping 1/2 billion of these kits on the public. Paying the Manufacturers for their poor product in one last money grab. As grateful idiots on media try to turn this bilking of our tax dollars into a Biden plus.)
Omicron will peter out. As soon as in January, 2022. There will be a mad scramble for the next fear/distraction to fill up the news void.
Virus deadly to rabbits found in multiple areas of Oregon
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Oregon Child Dies From Flesh-Eating Bacteria After Falling Off His Bike
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750 sickened in Oregon restaurants as cult known as the Rajneeshees spread salmonella in town of The Dalles
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Virulent bacteria affecting oysters found to be a case of mistaken identity
CORVALLIS, Ore. -
"The Vibrio genus and many bacteria associated with it are a huge problem in fish and shellfish aquaculture, and we should be studying them more aggressively," Häse said. "V. coralliilyticus, in particular, has a very powerful toxin delivery system, and vibrios are some of the smartest of all bacteria. They can smell, sense things and swim toward a host."
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Let's hope the gain of function mad scientists don't visit Oregon anytime soon
Is Through the Door."
An old Buddhist saying. Usually followed by, "Why will no one use this method?"
Snark aside, and apologies for it...
The open door I see is the repeated long enduring reporting of Omicron as Mild. At first people could say that it is a slow developing variant, so just you all wait. You'll see. It is scary, I tell you. Scary.
That BS has expired. Omicron is mild. The PCR tests coming up with huge positives are suspect, only marginally useful. (That's why Biden is dumping 1/2 billion of these kits on the public. Paying the Manufacturers for their poor product in one last money grab. As grateful idiots on media try to turn this bilking of our tax dollars into a Biden plus.)
Omicron will peter out. As soon as in January, 2022. There will be a mad scramble for the next fear/distraction to fill up the news void.
They have treated staff poorly for years. Less healthcare workers are moving to the area and new graduates are unavailable to compensate poor treatment of employees.
Virus deadly to rabbits found in multiple areas of Oregon
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Oregon Child Dies From Flesh-Eating Bacteria After Falling Off His Bike
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750 sickened in Oregon restaurants as cult known as the Rajneeshees spread salmonella in town of The Dalles
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Virulent bacteria affecting oysters found to be a case of mistaken identity
CORVALLIS, Ore. -
"The Vibrio genus and many bacteria associated with it are a huge problem in fish and shellfish aquaculture, and we should be studying them more aggressively," Häse said. "V. coralliilyticus, in particular, has a very powerful toxin delivery system, and vibrios are some of the smartest of all bacteria. They can smell, sense things and swim toward a host."
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Let's hope the gain of function mad scientists don't visit Oregon anytime soon
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They have treated staff poorly for years. Less healthcare workers are moving to the area and new graduates are unavailable to compensate poor treatment of employees.
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“I looked up and there she was, basically hanging on the side of a cliff of probably 300 foot or so,” he said.
The woman had been walking along the trail when she slipped and fell over the edge. She slid about 30 feet down before grabbing onto a tree root growing out of the hillside, Wunsch said.
Bystanders tied a loop in a small cord and lowered it down to the hiker, who secured it across her chest. The cord held her in place until firefighters arrived to rescue her, Wunsch said.
#4.1.1 Thanks for the news from my home state. That transportation worker is one lucky person.
Multnomah Falls was where Mr. Meta and I stopped for dinner on one of our first datey. We also got engaged there.
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“I looked up and there she was, basically hanging on the side of a cliff of probably 300 foot or so,” he said.
The woman had been walking along the trail when she slipped and fell over the edge. She slid about 30 feet down before grabbing onto a tree root growing out of the hillside, Wunsch said.
Bystanders tied a loop in a small cord and lowered it down to the hiker, who secured it across her chest. The cord held her in place until firefighters arrived to rescue her, Wunsch said.
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saw it earlier, but could not re-locate it, so just threw-up a bunch of the other scare tactics they are using to keep peeps locked down and scared. What a crock of crap this is. Rabbits and killer amides
may be good for haunting the paranoids, but it doesn't pass the smell test. Which is a way of saying the whole kit and caboodle is cooked up from the git-go.
They have treated staff poorly for years. Less healthcare workers are moving to the area and new graduates are unavailable to compensate poor treatment of employees.
I imagine you are familiar with this hospital SoE - my father died there, as it happens - thus the abuse and suffering these people went through (Spoiler Alert: husband died ten days after this interview) is, unfortunately, not all that surprising.
Oregon Hospital prevents Covid patients nurse wife from advocating for him
They have treated staff poorly for years. Less healthcare workers are moving to the area and new graduates are unavailable to compensate poor treatment of employees.
I imagine you are familiar with this hospital SoE - my father died there, as it happens - thus the abuse and suffering these people went through (Spoiler Alert: husband died ten days after this interview) is, unfortunately, not all that surprising.
Oregon Hospital prevents Covid patients nurse wife from advocating for him
My father did die in the hospital in question (St. Charles - Bend, OR) but that was over ten years ago and another sordid story of medical system failure.
The situation I linked to was one that I just happened to run across that was A - close to home due to the above and Oregon still being my stateside official residence, B - all too representative an experience that people are being subjected to all around the US, as well as many other countries and C - it was more or less on topic and that this happened in what I believe is SoE's (Central Oregon, right?) 'neighborhood' and might be of particular interest to (him, right?).
Certainly appreciate the expressions of concern, but at the moment I (and my wife) are fine, unjabbed, taking our IVM and enjoying a sunny New Year's Day in Japan.
But those of us who have survived 2021 more or less intact should not be forgetting those who didn't and suffered and/or died needlessly. Like the the late Mr. Harper and his wife.
Year of the Tiger - maybe we need to be channelling some of that spirit to deal with what is no doubt going to be a challenging 2022
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don't hesitate to send me a pm, friend.
I am so very sorry you have suffered such tragic losses.
May your husband RIP.
My father did die in the hospital in question (St. Charles - Bend, OR) but that was over ten years ago and another sordid story of medical system failure.
The situation I linked to was one that I just happened to run across that was A - close to home due to the above and Oregon still being my stateside official residence, B - all too representative an experience that people are being subjected to all around the US, as well as many other countries and C - it was more or less on topic and that this happened in what I believe is SoE's (Central Oregon, right?) 'neighborhood' and might be of particular interest to (him, right?).
Certainly appreciate the expressions of concern, but at the moment I (and my wife) are fine, unjabbed, taking our IVM and enjoying a sunny New Year's Day in Japan.
But those of us who have survived 2021 more or less intact should not be forgetting those who didn't and suffered and/or died needlessly. Like the the late Mr. Harper and his wife.
Year of the Tiger - maybe we need to be channelling some of that spirit to deal with what is no doubt going to be a challenging 2022
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Work very hard to avoid having myself or those I care about spend time at the main hospital in Bend or the three (formally independent) rural hospitals they acquired between 2001 and 2013. There is now no option for hospital care without traveling 120 miles minimum.
The first write up was a little confusing and I thought perhaps it was your father. Would of answered, except I was reflecting how fortunate I was able to visit my Sister and intervene as her patient advocate during 3 stays in 2014. Each time wondering is she was going to make it out alive and recover from treatment related complications from the current stay. Even meals were an issue. My purse was filled with small containers of food since the kitchen could not deliver low salt, low carb food and avoid known allergens.
Ah, the clarification, a little over 10 years ago was your Father's death. The time matches two awful short stays a couple years apart my Father had for acute issues with severe COPD and heart related issues. Even with Medical Power of Attorney I was barely able to keep them from prescribing an antipsychotic (chemical restraint). An intense meeting was requested by administration between their representative, attending physicians and myself to discuss the need for medical options for nursing to use for his care/safety. At the time he had an order not walk to the bathroom without assistance. It abruptly ended when administration representative complained to me Dad's use of the call button for assistance was interfering with the night nurses ability to complete his paperwork for the shift in a timely manner. From the shock on the physician's face I don't think he fully realized why drug treatment had been requested by the night nurse.
In 2013 his condition began to worsen again. The option was return to hospital for short term aggressive treatment or hospice. He chose hospice.
One thinks it can not get worse. but then there is the example from October. Don't remember seeing the story in the local news. Only listen to Lars when driving on the weekly trip to town.
My father did die in the hospital in question (St. Charles - Bend, OR) but that was over ten years ago and another sordid story of medical system failure.
The situation I linked to was one that I just happened to run across that was A - close to home due to the above and Oregon still being my stateside official residence, B - all too representative an experience that people are being subjected to all around the US, as well as many other countries and C - it was more or less on topic and that this happened in what I believe is SoE's (Central Oregon, right?) 'neighborhood' and might be of particular interest to (him, right?).
Certainly appreciate the expressions of concern, but at the moment I (and my wife) are fine, unjabbed, taking our IVM and enjoying a sunny New Year's Day in Japan.
But those of us who have survived 2021 more or less intact should not be forgetting those who didn't and suffered and/or died needlessly. Like the the late Mr. Harper and his wife.
Year of the Tiger - maybe we need to be channelling some of that spirit to deal with what is no doubt going to be a challenging 2022
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I am deeply aware of OHSU the one and only medical school in Oregon.
I worked there for awhile in the ,1980s.
Later confronted the Oregon medical establishment on treatment for illnesses they wanted nothing to do with. We had to leave the state to get help. Hard to do when you're sick.
In Washington where there are several medical schools, there was more than one approach to medical care.
I am outraged for you and hope you will find peace. Your interview with Lars was excellent.
I don't know what I could do to help, but if there is anything I can do, please let me know.
I imagine you are familiar with this hospital SoE - my father died there, as it happens - thus the abuse and suffering these people went through (Spoiler Alert: husband died ten days after this interview) is, unfortunately, not all that surprising.
Oregon Hospital prevents Covid patients nurse wife from advocating for him
Very much appreciate the concern/outrage - it is completely justified - however this did not happen to me. Apologies for not making that clear.
I just stumbled across the interview and linked to it as being a close (for me and I think SoE) to home example of what has been happening to *many* people in the US and elsewhere. (link below is to a not dissimilar situation in Canada)
Again, apologies for not communicating the situation clearly.
I am deeply aware of OHSU the one and only medical school in Oregon.
I worked there for awhile in the ,1980s.
Later confronted the Oregon medical establishment on treatment for illnesses they wanted nothing to do with. We had to leave the state to get help. Hard to do when you're sick.
In Washington where there are several medical schools, there was more than one approach to medical care.
I am outraged for you and hope you will find peace. Your interview with Lars was excellent.
I don't know what I could do to help, but if there is anything I can do, please let me know.
Virus deadly to rabbits found in multiple areas of Oregon
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Oregon Child Dies From Flesh-Eating Bacteria After Falling Off His Bike
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750 sickened in Oregon restaurants as cult known as the Rajneeshees spread salmonella in town of The Dalles
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Virulent bacteria affecting oysters found to be a case of mistaken identity
CORVALLIS, Ore. -
"The Vibrio genus and many bacteria associated with it are a huge problem in fish and shellfish aquaculture, and we should be studying them more aggressively," Häse said. "V. coralliilyticus, in particular, has a very powerful toxin delivery system, and vibrios are some of the smartest of all bacteria. They can smell, sense things and swim toward a host."
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Let's hope the gain of function mad scientists don't visit Oregon anytime soon
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Hope you are doing ok. I just cringe at what is going on in NYC.
Is Through the Door."
An old Buddhist saying. Usually followed by, "Why will no one use this method?"
Snark aside, and apologies for it...
The open door I see is the repeated long enduring reporting of Omicron as Mild. At first people could say that it is a slow developing variant, so just you all wait. You'll see. It is scary, I tell you. Scary.
That BS has expired. Omicron is mild. The PCR tests coming up with huge positives are suspect, only marginally useful. (That's why Biden is dumping 1/2 billion of these kits on the public. Paying the Manufacturers for their poor product in one last money grab. As grateful idiots on media try to turn this bilking of our tax dollars into a Biden plus.)
Omicron will peter out. As soon as in January, 2022. There will be a mad scramble for the next fear/distraction to fill up the news void.
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As long as people continue to deny that the vaccines do work in keeping people from experiencing the worst of the disease and continue to take space in our hospitals (which is keeping people I know from being able to get knee replacements) this will drag on and actually give more time for new variants to pop up. Unvaccinated people are and will be the cause of the lengthening of this pandemic.
There I said it.
Happy New Year.
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oh well
social engineering has such a bright future!
As long as people continue to deny that the vaccines do work in keeping people from experiencing the worst of the disease and continue to take space in our hospitals (which is keeping people I know from being able to get knee replacements) this will drag on and actually give more time for new variants to pop up. Unvaccinated people are and will be the cause of the lengthening of this pandemic.
trying to be nice, play well with others, etc.
If there was a lawsuit that pertained to keeping
you in or out of a mental hospital, would that be
like your argument? I read it in a lawsuit, so therefore
it must be so. Ever hear of false pretenses?
How about critical thinking? Just around the bend ..
trying to be nice, play well with others, etc.
If there was a lawsuit that pertained to keeping
you in or out of a mental hospital, would that be
like your argument? I read it in a lawsuit, so therefore
it must be so. Ever hear of false pretenses?
How about critical thinking? Just around the bend ..
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Among the 469 cases in Massachusetts residents, 346 (74%) occurred in persons who were fully vaccinated;...
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As long as people continue to deny that the vaccines do work in keeping people from experiencing the worst of the disease and continue to take space in our hospitals (which is keeping people I know from being able to get knee replacements) this will drag on and actually give more time for new variants to pop up. Unvaccinated people are and will be the cause of the lengthening of this pandemic.
Could have been one of the indicators that the vaccines can wane in protection which lead to the advice to add boosters. Also there is this from that same report...
The findings in this report are subject to at least four limitations. First, data from this report are insufficient to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against SARS-CoV-2, including the Delta variant, during this outbreak. As population-level vaccination coverage increases, vaccinated persons are likely to represent a larger proportion of COVID-19 cases. Second, asymptomatic breakthrough infections might be underrepresented because of detection bias. Third, demographics of cases likely reflect those of attendees at the public gatherings, as events were marketed to adult male participants; further study is underway to identify other population characteristics among cases, such as additional demographic characteristics and underlying health conditions including immunocompromising conditions.*** MA DPH, CDC, and affected jurisdictions are collaborating in this response; MA DPH is conducting additional case investigations, obtaining samples for genomic sequencing, and linking case information with laboratory data and vaccination history. Finally, Ct values obtained with SARS-CoV-2 qualitative RT-PCR diagnostic tests might provide a crude correlation to the amount of virus present in a sample and can also be affected by factors other than viral load.††† Although the assay used in this investigation was not validated to provide quantitative results, there was no significant difference between the Ct values of samples collected from breakthrough cases and the other cases. This might mean that the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with SARS-CoV-2 is also similar. However, microbiological studies are required to confirm these findings.
somehow it swallowed the vax hook
and is unable to dislodge that subliminal
prejudice without dissing the 'less informed'
Well thanks for showing us our disbelief!
There is something very basic this poster
does not understand. That's OK. I didn't get
the whole god concept for awhile. Difference is,
I did not blame others for my ignorance.
Could have been one of the indicators that the vaccines can wane in protection which lead to the advice to add boosters. Also there is this from that same report...
The findings in this report are subject to at least four limitations. First, data from this report are insufficient to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against SARS-CoV-2, including the Delta variant, during this outbreak. As population-level vaccination coverage increases, vaccinated persons are likely to represent a larger proportion of COVID-19 cases. Second, asymptomatic breakthrough infections might be underrepresented because of detection bias. Third, demographics of cases likely reflect those of attendees at the public gatherings, as events were marketed to adult male participants; further study is underway to identify other population characteristics among cases, such as additional demographic characteristics and underlying health conditions including immunocompromising conditions.*** MA DPH, CDC, and affected jurisdictions are collaborating in this response; MA DPH is conducting additional case investigations, obtaining samples for genomic sequencing, and linking case information with laboratory data and vaccination history. Finally, Ct values obtained with SARS-CoV-2 qualitative RT-PCR diagnostic tests might provide a crude correlation to the amount of virus present in a sample and can also be affected by factors other than viral load.††† Although the assay used in this investigation was not validated to provide quantitative results, there was no significant difference between the Ct values of samples collected from breakthrough cases and the other cases. This might mean that the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with SARS-CoV-2 is also similar. However, microbiological studies are required to confirm these findings.
CB linked a story from the CDC. I pointed out that the event in MA regarding the high numbers of infection of vaccinated people could have been one of the indicators that the vaccines were losing strength, and then I copied and pasted from the same article the CDC's explanation of caveats regarding the numbers.
I think you are so intent on slamming me (and name calling) that you didn't even make any sense of the interchange or my comment to CB.
Please do not bother to address me again, and I'll certainly do the same with you.
somehow it swallowed the vax hook
and is unable to dislodge that subliminal
prejudice without dissing the 'less informed'
Well thanks for showing us our disbelief!
There is something very basic this poster
does not understand. That's OK. I didn't get
the whole god concept for awhile. Difference is,
I did not blame others for my ignorance.
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@Fishtroller 02
You have to back up where you got your information so I can evaluate it.
If some of your comment are in fact true then it tells us that herd immunity will NEVER be reached by vaccinations alone but rather by infection eventually giving full natural immunity.
It is now of even greater importance to minimize the complications of COVID-19 BEFORE contracting disease or, in the least, at the onset of disease where it's pathogenicity can be ameliorated. To date, the CDC makes NO recommendation of what to do in these two situations, no matter what one's co-morbiditiy, other than to remain at home, isolate and come to hospital for admission if breathing becomes laboured and life threatening. Doesn't sound like a very good policy to me. It is asking for trouble
Therefore the reasoning and subsequent recommendations given by the FLCCC have been correct since the very beginning of this pandemic which has now evolved to include the vaccinated.
We are a group of expert clinicians who are driven only by our desire to save lives. We continually update our protocols based on clinical observations as well as the best studies of modes of prevention and treatment therapies for COVID-19. For our latest, most comprehensive clinical guide to the management of COVID-19, please click the following text, or the box below the logos, to read and download “An Overview of the MATH+, I-MASK+ and I-RECOVER Protocols, A Guide to the Management of COVID-19”, by Dr. Paul Marik.
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Could have been one of the indicators that the vaccines can wane in protection which lead to the advice to add boosters. Also there is this from that same report...
The findings in this report are subject to at least four limitations. First, data from this report are insufficient to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against SARS-CoV-2, including the Delta variant, during this outbreak. As population-level vaccination coverage increases, vaccinated persons are likely to represent a larger proportion of COVID-19 cases. Second, asymptomatic breakthrough infections might be underrepresented because of detection bias. Third, demographics of cases likely reflect those of attendees at the public gatherings, as events were marketed to adult male participants; further study is underway to identify other population characteristics among cases, such as additional demographic characteristics and underlying health conditions including immunocompromising conditions.*** MA DPH, CDC, and affected jurisdictions are collaborating in this response; MA DPH is conducting additional case investigations, obtaining samples for genomic sequencing, and linking case information with laboratory data and vaccination history. Finally, Ct values obtained with SARS-CoV-2 qualitative RT-PCR diagnostic tests might provide a crude correlation to the amount of virus present in a sample and can also be affected by factors other than viral load.††† Although the assay used in this investigation was not validated to provide quantitative results, there was no significant difference between the Ct values of samples collected from breakthrough cases and the other cases. This might mean that the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with SARS-CoV-2 is also similar. However, microbiological studies are required to confirm these findings.
#5.2.1
You have to back up where you got your information so I can evaluate it.
If some of your comment are in fact true then it tells us that herd immunity will NEVER be reached by vaccinations alone but rather by infection eventually giving full natural immunity.
It is now of even greater importance to minimize the complications of COVID-19 BEFORE contracting disease or, in the least, at the onset of disease where it's pathogenicity can be ameliorated. To date, the CDC makes NO recommendation of what to do in these two situations, no matter what one's co-morbiditiy, other than to remain at home, isolate and come to hospital for admission if breathing becomes laboured and life threatening. Doesn't sound like a very good policy to me. It is asking for trouble
Therefore the reasoning and subsequent recommendations given by the FLCCC have been correct since the very beginning of this pandemic which has now evolved to include the vaccinated.
We are a group of expert clinicians who are driven only by our desire to save lives. We continually update our protocols based on clinical observations as well as the best studies of modes of prevention and treatment therapies for COVID-19. For our latest, most comprehensive clinical guide to the management of COVID-19, please click the following text, or the box below the logos, to read and download “An Overview of the MATH+, I-MASK+ and I-RECOVER Protocols, A Guide to the Management of COVID-19”, by Dr. Paul Marik.
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@Fishtroller 02
I didn't see any quote marks in your reply. I supply a lot of information from many sources. I'm not going to waste my time reading and trying to figure out where you got stuff from until you supply a source.
This dance is getting tedious but I'll take another turn with you.
My claim:
Among the 469 cases in Massachusetts residents, 346 (74%) occurred in persons who were fully vaccinated;
Here's one of the caveats you put forward from the same CDC sourced finding to negate this finding:
This was confirmed by the head of the CDC herself:
Walensky: The Delta variant “resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people.”
Can you finally accept the fact that both the unvaxxed and the vaxxed are just as likely to spread the disease so vaccinations cannot be counted on to provide herd immunity and we MUST now rely on natural immunity to end the pandemic?
But this will open up another can of worms if the vaccine doesn't perform as efficacious as it should. Have you ever heard of The Original Antigenic Sin? This could mean that those who were vaccinated cannot ever be counted on to provide herd immunity. We will then have to depend on the unvaxxed (if enough them remain) or forever be dependent on bi-annual jabs futilely chasing the virus mutations at a cost of tens of billion$ a year. (Damn Fauci would have multiple orgasms if that wet dream came true for him.)
The paragraph that started with the highlighted sentence is at the end of the report. I forgot to put quotation marks around it. Since you provided the link, I assumed you read the whole report.
#5.2.1.3.1
I didn't see any quote marks in your reply. I supply a lot of information from many sources. I'm not going to waste my time reading and trying to figure out where you got stuff from until you supply a source.
This dance is getting tedious but I'll take another turn with you.
My claim:
Among the 469 cases in Massachusetts residents, 346 (74%) occurred in persons who were fully vaccinated;
Here's one of the caveats you put forward from the same CDC sourced finding to negate this finding:
This was confirmed by the head of the CDC herself:
Walensky: The Delta variant “resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people.”
Can you finally accept the fact that both the unvaxxed and the vaxxed are just as likely to spread the disease so vaccinations cannot be counted on to provide herd immunity and we MUST now rely on natural immunity to end the pandemic?
But this will open up another can of worms if the vaccine doesn't perform as efficacious as it should. Have you ever heard of The Original Antigenic Sin? This could mean that those who were vaccinated cannot ever be counted on to provide herd immunity. We will then have to depend on the unvaxxed (if enough them remain) or forever be dependent on bi-annual jabs futilely chasing the virus mutations at a cost of tens of billion$ a year. (Damn Fauci would have multiple orgasms if that wet dream came true for him.)
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the source of hospital's problems do not square with what people on the ground are saying.
This example is from Ventura Co., Southern California - but whistleblowing nurses, EMT's and such are reporting very similar from all over the place
After the Conejo Guardian’s report on alarming trends in Ventura County hospitals, more nurses have come forward to affirm the rise in unexplained heart problems, strokes and blood clotting in local vaccinated patient populations. They also say doctors refuse to consider that these could be adverse reactions to Covid shots.
Sam, a critical care nurse at an ICU in a Ventura County hospital, came forward because, “I’m tired of all the B.S. that’s going on,” he told the Guardian. “It’s crazy how nobody questions anything anymore.”
He has witnessed a surge in numbers of young people experiencing severe health problems after receiving Covid shots.
“We’ve been having a lot of younger people come in,” Sam says. “We’re seeing a lot of strokes, a lot of heart attacks.”
One 38-year-old-woman came in with occlusions (blockages of blood flow) in her brain.
“They [doctors] were searching for everything under the sun and documenting this in the chart, but nowhere do you see if she was vaccinated or not,” Sam says. “One thing the vaccine causes is thrombosis, clotting. Here you have a 38-year-old woman who was double-vaccinated and she’s having strokes they can’t explain. None of the doctors relates it to the vaccine. It’s garbage. It’s absolute garbage.”
As long as people continue to deny that the vaccines do work in keeping people from experiencing the worst of the disease and continue to take space in our hospitals (which is keeping people I know from being able to get knee replacements) this will drag on and actually give more time for new variants to pop up. Unvaccinated people are and will be the cause of the lengthening of this pandemic.
He isn't surprised because he knew he was breaking their rules when he posted that the Pfizer vaccine does more harm than good and that children shouldn't take it.
HOWEVER..... this kind of stuff just makes martyrs out of people and robs everyone of the chance to counter his "information". I'm against all this censorship crap that is going on and while I think Malone should heavily criticized for all the harm he has done to science, I don't like turning the spotlight off of him. He's just going to go "underground" and probably take his 500,000 followers with him. Twitter has the right to do it, but should be slammed for doing it also.
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The inventor of the core mRNA vaccine technologies (including the idea of mRNA vaccines) and RNA transfection, Dr. Malone has extensive research and development experience in the areas of pre-clinical discovery research, clinical trials, vaccines, gene therapy, bio-defense, and immunology. He has over twenty years of management and leadership experience in academia, pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries, as well as in governmental and non-governmental organizations.
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Dr. Malone has close to 100 peer-reviewed publications and published abstracts and has over 11,477 citations of his peer reviewed publications, as verified by Google Scholar. His google scholar ranking is “outstanding” for impact factors. He has been an invited speaker at over 50 conferences, has chaired numerous conferences and he has sat on or served as chairperson on numerous NIAID and DoD study sections.
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COVID-19 Today December 27, 2021: Let’s dig into the science!
Below are five articles that stand out as being among the most powerful regarding COVID-19 this week.
He isn't surprised because he knew he was breaking their rules when he posted that the Pfizer vaccine does more harm than good and that children shouldn't take it.
HOWEVER..... this kind of stuff just makes martyrs out of people and robs everyone of the chance to counter his "information". I'm against all this censorship crap that is going on and while I think Malone should heavily criticized for all the harm he has done to science, I don't like turning the spotlight off of him. He's just going to go "underground" and probably take his 500,000 followers with him. Twitter has the right to do it, but should be slammed for doing it also.
The inventor of the core mRNA vaccine technologies (including the idea of mRNA vaccines) and RNA transfection, Dr. Malone has extensive research and development experience in the areas of pre-clinical discovery research, clinical trials, vaccines, gene therapy, bio-defense, and immunology. He has over twenty years of management and leadership experience in academia, pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries, as well as in governmental and non-governmental organizations.
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Dr. Malone has close to 100 peer-reviewed publications and published abstracts and has over 11,477 citations of his peer reviewed publications, as verified by Google Scholar. His google scholar ranking is “outstanding” for impact factors. He has been an invited speaker at over 50 conferences, has chaired numerous conferences and he has sat on or served as chairperson on numerous NIAID and DoD study sections.
Articles by Robert
You can get his articles at his website:
COVID-19 Today December 27, 2021: Let’s dig into the science!
Below are five articles that stand out as being among the most powerful regarding COVID-19 this week.
He isn't surprised because he knew he was breaking their rules when he posted that the Pfizer vaccine does more harm than good and that children shouldn't take it.
HOWEVER..... this kind of stuff just makes martyrs out of people and robs everyone of the chance to counter his "information". I'm against all this censorship crap that is going on and while I think Malone should heavily criticized for all the harm he has done to science, I don't like turning the spotlight off of him. He's just going to go "underground" and probably take his 500,000 followers with him. Twitter has the right to do it, but should be slammed for doing it also.
I wonder how many here would have done what the nurses did? They are advocating for the unjabbed to be denied treatment and to be stuck in tents to deal with it on their own. One person tried to bring some sanity to the discussion, but was shot down.
From once advocating for insurance for all to second class citizens. Very strange.
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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
"One person tried to bring some sanity to the discussion, but was shot down."
Nurses are getting burned out and tired of hearing people who are about to die crying because they wish they had been vaccinated... just saw an interview with a nurse who expressed this. It does not excuse the sentiment of putting unvaccinated people out in the cold, but one can appreciate the high level of frustration.
I wonder how many here would have done what the nurses did? They are advocating for the unjabbed to be denied treatment and to be stuck in tents to deal with it on their own. One person tried to bring some sanity to the discussion, but was shot down.
From once advocating for insurance for all to second class citizens. Very strange.
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I go to my local clinic for blood work every 3 months. The last 3 times I've seen prominent posters "Nurses Wanted", "Now Hiring". On the last two occasions my blood was taken by young Filipino nurses who could barely speak English. One time the nurse was accompanied by a supervisor who had to help the trainee use the proper draw tube for the sample she was drawing. The supervisor nurse said it was because many nurses were quitting instead of taking the vaccine. She said she only decided to take the jab was because she is a single mom and she couldn't afford not to work. She said some of the nurses were lucky because they could rely on their spouses.
"One person tried to bring some sanity to the discussion, but was shot down."
Nurses are getting burned out and tired of hearing people who are about to die crying because they wish they had been vaccinated... just saw an interview with a nurse who expressed this. It does not excuse the sentiment of putting unvaccinated people out in the cold, but one can appreciate the high level of frustration.
I go to my local clinic for blood work every 3 months. The last 3 times I've seen prominent posters "Nurses Wanted", "Now Hiring". On the last two occasions my blood was taken by young Filipino nurses who could barely speak English. One time the nurse was accompanied by a supervisor who had to help the trainee use the proper draw tube for the sample she was drawing. The supervisor nurse said it was because many nurses were quitting instead of taking the vaccine. She said she only decided to take the jab was because she is a single mom and she couldn't afford not to work. She said some of the nurses were lucky because they could rely on their spouses.
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Provides no stats on doctors dying of covid or vaccinations, so it's just conjecture. Once again, one must prove beyond a doubt that the virus and/or the vaccine is directly related to the injury or death. This article provides nothing on that.
I go to my local clinic for blood work every 3 months. The last 3 times I've seen prominent posters "Nurses Wanted", "Now Hiring". On the last two occasions my blood was taken by young Filipino nurses who could barely speak English. One time the nurse was accompanied by a supervisor who had to help the trainee use the proper draw tube for the sample she was drawing. The supervisor nurse said it was because many nurses were quitting instead of taking the vaccine. She said she only decided to take the jab was because she is a single mom and she couldn't afford not to work. She said some of the nurses were lucky because they could rely on their spouses.
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@Fishtroller 02
including doctors, who are quitting rather than take the vaccine.
That should tell you something about the jab. They see things that they are not allowed to speak of by their management, such as deaths and injuries with those that took the vaccine. Many times they are actively discouraged from reporting to VAERS or they are given insufficient time to do so. Many front line nurses are the ones that can make better informed decisions due to their experiences.
Doesn't it concern you that the establishment has evolved from stating the vaccines were 100% safe, 100% effective in preventing COVID-19 to now admitting the vaxxed can get infected and can carry as much or even more viral load in their pharynx as the unvaxxed and can also be hospitalized and die? BTW, this would have shown up if they had not truncated the safety and efficacy trials at 90 days - which is interestingly the same time frame at which these vaccines start to loose their efficacy. You do realize that we are now at the booster phase which will be required to maintain fully vaccinated status barely a year in since the vaccine program started.
Have you got your booster yet? Are you willing to get it bi-annually when it becomes mandated? Would you be willing to take a booster if you actually contract the disease in the interim? From your comments I would surmise you will do everything to comply with the "authorities" - whatever their demands become.
Provides no stats on doctors dying of covid or vaccinations, so it's just conjecture. Once again, one must prove beyond a doubt that the virus and/or the vaccine is directly related to the injury or death. This article provides nothing on that.
I just left a thread on my local rag and 9/10 people insist that we never told that they would keep us from getting infected, but only that they would lessen symptoms and keep us out of hospital. There’s a good chance we are seeing ADE with omicron but it’s being blamed on those stinking unjabbed instead. If I had gotten something that I was told would protect me I would be questioning the effectiveness of the product. But they are blaming vaccine failures on those who haven’t taken it. The power of propaganda pushed by the PTB and their mouthpieces. They see how effective it is.
The video from the article opal posted shows that they only had a less than 1% chance of working to protect people from getting infected not the 95% that drug companies told us. Again it borders on a fraudulent study. I posted the link for it if anyone wants to see for themselves.
#7.1.1.2
including doctors, who are quitting rather than take the vaccine.
That should tell you something about the jab. They see things that they are not allowed to speak of by their management, such as deaths and injuries with those that took the vaccine. Many times they are actively discouraged from reporting to VAERS or they are given insufficient time to do so. Many front line nurses are the ones that can make better informed decisions due to their experiences.
Doesn't it concern you that the establishment has evolved from stating the vaccines were 100% safe, 100% effective in preventing COVID-19 to now admitting the vaxxed can get infected and can carry as much or even more viral load in their pharynx as the unvaxxed and can also be hospitalized and die? BTW, this would have shown up if they had not truncated the safety and efficacy trials at 90 days - which is interestingly the same time frame at which these vaccines start to loose their efficacy. You do realize that we are now at the booster phase which will be required to maintain fully vaccinated status barely a year in since the vaccine program started.
Have you got your booster yet? Are you willing to get it bi-annually when it becomes mandated? Would you be willing to take a booster if you actually contract the disease in the interim? From your comments I would surmise you will do everything to comply with the "authorities" - whatever their demands become.
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I just left a thread on my local rag and 9/10 people insist that we never told that they would keep us from getting infected, but only that they would lessen symptoms and keep us out of hospital. There’s a good chance we are seeing ADE with omicron but it’s being blamed on those stinking unjabbed instead. If I had gotten something that I was told would protect me I would be questioning the effectiveness of the product. But they are blaming vaccine failures on those who haven’t taken it. The power of propaganda pushed by the PTB and their mouthpieces. They see how effective it is.
The video from the article opal posted shows that they only had a less than 1% chance of working to protect people from getting infected not the 95% that drug companies told us. Again it borders on a fraudulent study. I posted the link for it if anyone wants to see for themselves.
The governor also addressed earlier comments on securing temporary visas for international healthcare workers, saying that the Department of State’s approval process would make this more of a long-term approach rather than an immediate fix.
That seems to have been one of the goals all along. I pointed that out the day she said it and now it’s becoming what you and others are seeing in your health care. Foreign workers are one way to lower wages across the board. This has been happening for some time, but it’s being accelerated in all industries. How does it make sense to fire long term nurses and then bring in national guard people who have to leave their jobs to go work elsewhere? What about their place of employment? Especially when they don’t have to be jabbed until the middle of next year?
And this:
“Every single person who ends up in your care has the right to know that they are as safe as they can be, that there is no chance they will be infected by the person charged with protecting them and their health. We can get this number higher, I’m confident of that, I’m grateful for those who have stepped up and done the right thing,” Hochul said. “Stay tuned, we’re going to continue focusing on this.”
Hey guv, guess what? This doesn’t hold water anymore and both Fauci and Walensky have admitted that it. One judge who ruled for mandates mentioned that too and said that more Americans have died from the Rona then in all wars combined. (Let’s count all the deaths from our wars. 20-30 million if you didn’t know.) He’s not ruling on the legal part, but on the panic that has been manufactured. 2 countries have modified their death totals down to 3% of the number. Others will follow suit and we need someone to do a FOIA on the true numbers. Also the federal government is not tracking how many people are getting breakthrough infections, but only those who are admitted to hospitals. Boy that will keep the numbers low won’t it?
Aaron Siri is an attorney who is representing lots of people against the mandates. He should be using the information in the video showing how Pfizer committed fraud to get the vaccines passed.
I go to my local clinic for blood work every 3 months. The last 3 times I've seen prominent posters "Nurses Wanted", "Now Hiring". On the last two occasions my blood was taken by young Filipino nurses who could barely speak English. One time the nurse was accompanied by a supervisor who had to help the trainee use the proper draw tube for the sample she was drawing. The supervisor nurse said it was because many nurses were quitting instead of taking the vaccine. She said she only decided to take the jab was because she is a single mom and she couldn't afford not to work. She said some of the nurses were lucky because they could rely on their spouses.
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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
"One person tried to bring some sanity to the discussion, but was shot down."
Nurses are getting burned out and tired of hearing people who are about to die crying because they wish they had been vaccinated... just saw an interview with a nurse who expressed this. It does not excuse the sentiment of putting unvaccinated people out in the cold, but one can appreciate the high level of frustration.
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@snoopydawg
of them are to the pathology of SARS-CoV-2 compared to people here at C99%.
I wonder how many here would have done what the nurses did? They are advocating for the unjabbed to be denied treatment and to be stuck in tents to deal with it on their own. One person tried to bring some sanity to the discussion, but was shot down.
From once advocating for insurance for all to second class citizens. Very strange.
The five most vaccinated states in the United States—Vermont, Rhode Island, Maine, Connecticut and Massachusetts—are all experiencing surges in new COVID-19 cases, as the Biden administration urges people over 50 to get their booster jabs.
Covid-19 cases in the United States are skyrocketing as winter sets in, with some of the most highly vaccinated states—including four of the top five most vaccinated—fighting to contain the country’s worst outbreaks, prompting officials to reinstate restrictions and ramp up booster efforts to ease the burden on struggling hospitals.
@Lookout
benefit of the injections might be less than getting the infection.
There have been statistics saying that the risk/benefit analysis shows less upside than prevention and early treatment. Wish I could find those studies.
I am firmly against censorship. I don't agree with what you believe but will defend to death your right to state your beliefs.
Not aimed at you LO, but thought it should be said.
Fortunately omicron is usually asymptomatic or presents as a cold.
CDC Admits That “Fully Vaccinated” Americans Are Super-Spreaders Carrying Deadly Variants And High Viral Loads
The five most vaccinated states in the United States—Vermont, Rhode Island, Maine, Connecticut and Massachusetts—are all experiencing surges in new COVID-19 cases, as the Biden administration urges people over 50 to get their booster jabs.
Covid-19 cases in the United States are skyrocketing as winter sets in, with some of the most highly vaccinated states—including four of the top five most vaccinated—fighting to contain the country’s worst outbreaks, prompting officials to reinstate restrictions and ramp up booster efforts to ease the burden on struggling hospitals.
Investigative journalist David John Sorensen and world renowned 'Physician of Presidents' and nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize Dr. Vladimir Zelenko combined their knowledge to reveal something devastating to the world: the scientific data overwhelmingly shows how probably millions have died from the covid injections, and hundreds of millions are suffering crippling side effects, that often permanently disable the victims for life. The Vaccine Death Report provides all the data, along with hundreds of references, for further investigation.
My previous comment was an attempt to counter the argument that this would go away if everyone was vaccinated. That is clearly not the case.
#8 benefit of the injections might be less than getting the infection.
There have been statistics saying that the risk/benefit analysis shows less upside than prevention and early treatment. Wish I could find those studies.
I am firmly against censorship. I don't agree with what you believe but will defend to death your right to state your beliefs.
Not aimed at you LO, but thought it should be said.
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Investigative journalist David John Sorensen and world renowned 'Physician of Presidents' and nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize Dr. Vladimir Zelenko combined their knowledge to reveal something devastating to the world: the scientific data overwhelmingly shows how probably millions have died from the covid injections, and hundreds of millions are suffering crippling side effects, that often permanently disable the victims for life. The Vaccine Death Report provides all the data, along with hundreds of references, for further investigation.
My previous comment was an attempt to counter the argument that this would go away if everyone was vaccinated. That is clearly not the case.
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Again there is a breakdown of each injury caused by which vaccines. We will be getting an update from Vaers soon and as of last month deaths stood at over 20,000. Hundreds of athletes have had adverse effects or died after getting jabbed. In the link opal provided there’s video of athletes collapsing during games. And it’s weird how many people are suddenly dying…I guess most people suddenly die, but it’s usually not the headline.
#8.1.1 there were stats from Europe about adverse events.
I'm still not sure how accurate or trustworthy they are, and not sure how to determine such.
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tens of thousands of people have died from them. Unless people can’t do math. And again those cases have been verified by the agencies that post them and they are under reported by at least 41% according to a study done by Harvard.
Again there is a breakdown of each injury caused by which vaccines. We will be getting an update from Vaers soon and as of last month deaths stood at over 20,000. Hundreds of athletes have had adverse effects or died after getting jabbed. In the link opal provided there’s video of athletes collapsing during games. And it’s weird how many people are suddenly dying…I guess most people suddenly die, but it’s usually not the headline.
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@snoopydawg
might reflect people dying with the vaccine and not from it?
Here is a random bit of their numbers:
21,574 Eye disorders incl. 35 deaths
115,450 Gastrointestinal disorders incl. 602 deaths
354,635 General disorders and administration site conditions incl. 4,251 deaths
1,589 Hepatobiliary disorders incl. 78 deaths
15,371 Immune system disorders incl. 77 deaths
57,255 Infections and infestations incl. 1,605 deaths
22,928 Injury, poisoning and procedural complications incl. 261 deaths
34,691 Investigations incl. 464 deaths
9,568 Metabolism and nutrition disorders incl. 256 deaths
172,420 Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders incl. 187 deaths
1,254 Neoplasms benign, malignant and unspecified (incl cysts and polyps) incl. 122 deaths
236,435 Nervous system disorders incl. 1,609 deaths
2,000 Pregnancy, puerperium and perinatal conditions incl. 60 deaths
215 Product issues incl. 3 deaths
25,493 Psychiatric disorders incl. 182 deaths
Many of these are not acute type diseases but more of the chronic type (e.g. Neoplasms benign, malignant and etc (including cysts and polyps)). I would think it would be a real stretch to accuse the vaccine of causing many of these conditions or deaths.
I could be missing something, but is this anything more than counting the number of people who died in the past year that were vaccinated and then died of something besides covid?
I would really like to know how safe, or dangerous, the vaccine is, and for whom. This data dump of people who have died after receiving the vaccine feels like its goal is to generate fear of the vaccine.
I hope that you know I'm not questioning you snoop, just the article.
Again there is a breakdown of each injury caused by which vaccines. We will be getting an update from Vaers soon and as of last month deaths stood at over 20,000. Hundreds of athletes have had adverse effects or died after getting jabbed. In the link opal provided there’s video of athletes collapsing during games. And it’s weird how many people are suddenly dying…I guess most people suddenly die, but it’s usually not the headline.
I’m going to read it more thoroughly and see if I can answer you. Give me a few…I’ll post it in the current day’s dose if I do so it doesn’t get lost.
Thanks!
#8.1.1.1.1 might reflect people dying with the vaccine and not from it?
Here is a random bit of their numbers:
21,574 Eye disorders incl. 35 deaths
115,450 Gastrointestinal disorders incl. 602 deaths
354,635 General disorders and administration site conditions incl. 4,251 deaths
1,589 Hepatobiliary disorders incl. 78 deaths
15,371 Immune system disorders incl. 77 deaths
57,255 Infections and infestations incl. 1,605 deaths
22,928 Injury, poisoning and procedural complications incl. 261 deaths
34,691 Investigations incl. 464 deaths
9,568 Metabolism and nutrition disorders incl. 256 deaths
172,420 Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders incl. 187 deaths
1,254 Neoplasms benign, malignant and unspecified (incl cysts and polyps) incl. 122 deaths
236,435 Nervous system disorders incl. 1,609 deaths
2,000 Pregnancy, puerperium and perinatal conditions incl. 60 deaths
215 Product issues incl. 3 deaths
25,493 Psychiatric disorders incl. 182 deaths
Many of these are not acute type diseases but more of the chronic type (e.g. Neoplasms benign, malignant and etc (including cysts and polyps)). I would think it would be a real stretch to accuse the vaccine of causing many of these conditions or deaths.
I could be missing something, but is this anything more than counting the number of people who died in the past year that were vaccinated and then died of something besides covid?
I would really like to know how safe, or dangerous, the vaccine is, and for whom. This data dump of people who have died after receiving the vaccine feels like its goal is to generate fear of the vaccine.
I hope that you know I'm not questioning you snoop, just the article.
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*These totals are estimates based on reports submitted to EudraVigilance. Totals may be much higher based on percentage of adverse reactions that are reported. Some of these reports may also be reported to the individual country’s adverse reaction databases, such as the U.S. VAERS database and the UK Yellow Card system. The fatalities are grouped by symptoms, and some fatalities may have resulted from multiple symptoms.
It does seem weird that an eye disorder would cause death and it doesn’t say what the disorder is. If it causes a clotting disorder then it wouldn’t be just be localized in the eye, but be systematic in other organs like the heart or lung or others. I’ve read that people have suddenly lost eyesight and I assumed it was due to blood clots because it’s usually that or retinal detachment that causes sudden vision loss. A high percentage of people tested with a D-dimer blood test have abnormal numbers meaning that there are micro clots in the blood stream which is usually not good news. Lots of people have had decreased platelet levels which can cause clots everywhere in the body.
That’s all I feel comfortable theorizing on as I’m only knowledgeable about lab tests and ophthalmology and not the other areas. As the report states there can be multiple symptoms which I think I just described for the info listed for other causes. Just my guess anyway.
#8.1.1.1.1 might reflect people dying with the vaccine and not from it?
Here is a random bit of their numbers:
21,574 Eye disorders incl. 35 deaths
115,450 Gastrointestinal disorders incl. 602 deaths
354,635 General disorders and administration site conditions incl. 4,251 deaths
1,589 Hepatobiliary disorders incl. 78 deaths
15,371 Immune system disorders incl. 77 deaths
57,255 Infections and infestations incl. 1,605 deaths
22,928 Injury, poisoning and procedural complications incl. 261 deaths
34,691 Investigations incl. 464 deaths
9,568 Metabolism and nutrition disorders incl. 256 deaths
172,420 Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders incl. 187 deaths
1,254 Neoplasms benign, malignant and unspecified (incl cysts and polyps) incl. 122 deaths
236,435 Nervous system disorders incl. 1,609 deaths
2,000 Pregnancy, puerperium and perinatal conditions incl. 60 deaths
215 Product issues incl. 3 deaths
25,493 Psychiatric disorders incl. 182 deaths
Many of these are not acute type diseases but more of the chronic type (e.g. Neoplasms benign, malignant and etc (including cysts and polyps)). I would think it would be a real stretch to accuse the vaccine of causing many of these conditions or deaths.
I could be missing something, but is this anything more than counting the number of people who died in the past year that were vaccinated and then died of something besides covid?
I would really like to know how safe, or dangerous, the vaccine is, and for whom. This data dump of people who have died after receiving the vaccine feels like its goal is to generate fear of the vaccine.
I hope that you know I'm not questioning you snoop, just the article.
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@Dawn's Meta
but I can say with certainty that it took me 7 months to fully recover from my second Pfizer jab.
Two weeks after I got that second shot I began on a long road of acute choking/coughing up phlegm which kept me awake at night and carrying a spitting cup from room to room with me for a long 7 months.
Many days I could not talk on the phone or when I went out with my mask on. Everybody around me knew that I could not speak without coughing spitting fits so family texted and emailed and neighbors talked to me and I used hand gestures to communicate as best I could.
The pattern was some recovery and then a relapse.
My lungs were clear. My oxygen levels were normal. No fever. I had not had a cold or a cough for decades before this happened, and I routinely took my Vitamin D, exercised everyday and never was interested in junk food. No co-morbidities. Normal weight. Initially the doctor said that old people take a long time to get over their colds. wtf?
Doctor finally diagnosed Vaccine overdose.
#8.1.1 there were stats from Europe about adverse events.
I'm still not sure how accurate or trustworthy they are, and not sure how to determine such.
@NYCVG
Do you know if your case was submitted to VAERS?
In March of 2020 I had a very odd and more intense pneumonia. The infection went directly to my lungs. I can't take antibiotics, so as with previous respiratory infections, I treated with steaming enhaled essential oils, Vit C, curcuma and ginger tea, whiskey with honey and lemon hot tea, and a few other things I can't remember.
I was over it in about ten days.
Both of us take IVM 24 mg twice a week as a protease inhibitor. Also Zinc, VitD3, Aloe Vera,B12, Vit C, Lysine.
We still drink our ginger - turmeric tea and as needed breathe steamy essential oils.
Somehow it all seems to help.
I'm so glad you're better. Hard not to be distressed in stressful times.
#8.1.1.1 but I can say with certainty that it took me 7 months to fully recover from my second Pfizer jab.
Two weeks after I got that second shot I began on a long road of acute choking/coughing up phlegm which kept me awake at night and carrying a spitting cup from room to room with me for a long 7 months.
Many days I could not talk on the phone or when I went out with my mask on. Everybody around me knew that I could not speak without coughing spitting fits so family texted and emailed and neighbors talked to me and I used hand gestures to communicate as best I could.
The pattern was some recovery and then a relapse.
My lungs were clear. My oxygen levels were normal. No fever. I had not had a cold or a cough for decades before this happened, and I routinely took my Vitamin D, exercised everyday and never was interested in junk food. No co-morbidities. Normal weight. Initially the doctor said that old people take a long time to get over their colds. wtf?
Doctor finally diagnosed Vaccine overdose.
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#8.1.1.1.2 Do you know if your case was submitted to VAERS?
In March of 2020 I had a very odd and more intense pneumonia. The infection went directly to my lungs. I can't take antibiotics, so as with previous respiratory infections, I treated with steaming enhaled essential oils, Vit C, curcuma and ginger tea, whiskey with honey and lemon hot tea, and a few other things I can't remember.
I was over it in about ten days.
Both of us take IVM 24 mg twice a week as a protease inhibitor. Also Zinc, VitD3, Aloe Vera,B12, Vit C, Lysine.
We still drink our ginger - turmeric tea and as needed breathe steamy essential oils.
Somehow it all seems to help.
I'm so glad you're better. Hard not to be distressed in stressful times.
@Dawn's Meta
by the Fauci controlled NAID and CDC that is examining the prevention and amelioration of COVID-19 other than EUA vaccines. The new prophylactics from Pfizer and Merck have yet to obtain the required EUA for their widespread application. I believe this is expected early in 2022 after less than 6 months of safety and efficacy testing.
#8 benefit of the injections might be less than getting the infection.
There have been statistics saying that the risk/benefit analysis shows less upside than prevention and early treatment. Wish I could find those studies.
I am firmly against censorship. I don't agree with what you believe but will defend to death your right to state your beliefs.
Not aimed at you LO, but thought it should be said.
The Danish Society for General Practice (DSAM), which is the professional community of general practitioners, has criticised the National Board of Health for its recommendations concerning COVID-19 treatment.
Earlier, the Danish Health and Medicines Authority has approved the US drugmaker Merck's anti-COVID pill molnupiravir, which also goes by the name Lagevrio, to treat at-risk patients with symptoms, making Denmark the first EU country to do so. So far, 50,000 pills have been purchased.
Explaining their reluctance to administer it, DSAM's COVID-19 spokesman Anders Beich cited the drug's poor documentation.
“We think that the documentation basis is really, really flimsy. We are afraid that we will have to use a remedy that is ineffective at best and, at worst, jeopardises people's treatment,” he told Danish Radio.
According to him, patients may receive proper treatment too late.
“There is a tendency to believe that once you have received your treatment, you will do well. It may be that both doctor and patient think that now the patient is in treatment. But if the treatment is ineffective, then you will waste time, and there is a risk that the disease will get worse without action being taken,” Beich mused.
What was left out is that Merck’s drug causes cancer and birth defects which is why they had to discontinue the trial for using it on another disease. Kinda like how remdisiver is known to cause kidney problems but Fauci decided to use it across the board for every person whose oxygen level dropped below a certain point. Kinda like AZT too.
If only there were many repurposed drugs that could be used to save lives…if only. Oh wait.
#8.1
by the Fauci controlled NAID and CDC that is examining the prevention and amelioration of COVID-19 other than EUA vaccines. The new prophylactics from Pfizer and Merck have yet to obtain the required EUA for their widespread application. I believe this is expected early in 2022 after less than 6 months of safety and efficacy testing.
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The five most vaccinated states in the United States—Vermont, Rhode Island, Maine, Connecticut and Massachusetts—are all experiencing surges in new COVID-19 cases, as the Biden administration urges people over 50 to get their booster jabs.
Covid-19 cases in the United States are skyrocketing as winter sets in, with some of the most highly vaccinated states—including four of the top five most vaccinated—fighting to contain the country’s worst outbreaks, prompting officials to reinstate restrictions and ramp up booster efforts to ease the burden on struggling hospitals.
is there no-where in your critical thinking skills to
dis-believe where you have obviously decided to reject
any counter arguments? Lighten-up. There is actually
more than one way to peel a carrot.
#8
see the "announcement" that the CDC is directly quoted as stating that vaccinated persons are "super spreaders" of the virus?
The CDC has stated that vaccinated people can get and pass on the virus. We have all known that for months.
that these kinds of sources are how exaggerations and outright false information get started. The CDC never said that vaccinated people are "super spreaders". To report that as fact does not help anyone make a decision about the vaccines nor does it add to knowledge, nor does it help conversation.
With all the pretty much over the top claims being posted daily on the Dose (like tens of thousands of people have died from the vaccines or the whole pandemic was planned), you pick my scrutinizing a source to call out.
This is why I say that The Dose is a one-sided conversation with frequent attempts to discourage any POVs about the nature of the pandemic and the vaccines that fall from the anti vax rhetoric to be considered.
To see this kind of behavior here on C99 continues to amaze me.
is there no-where in your critical thinking skills to
dis-believe where you have obviously decided to reject
any counter arguments? Lighten-up. There is actually
more than one way to peel a carrot.
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that these kinds of sources are how exaggerations and outright false information get started. The CDC never said that vaccinated people are "super spreaders". To report that as fact does not help anyone make a decision about the vaccines nor does it add to knowledge, nor does it help conversation.
With all the pretty much over the top claims being posted daily on the Dose (like tens of thousands of people have died from the vaccines or the whole pandemic was planned), you pick my scrutinizing a source to call out.
This is why I say that The Dose is a one-sided conversation with frequent attempts to discourage any POVs about the nature of the pandemic and the vaccines that fall from the anti vax rhetoric to be considered.
To see this kind of behavior here on C99 continues to amaze me.
Statement from CDC Director Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, MPH on Today’s MMWR
Friday, July 30, 2021
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Today, some of those data were published in CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), demonstrating that Delta infection resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people. High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated people infected with Delta can transmit the virus.
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Statement from CDC Director Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, MPH on Today’s MMWR
Friday, July 30, 2021
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Today, some of those data were published in CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), demonstrating that Delta infection resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people. High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated people infected with Delta can transmit the virus.
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Walensky: The Delta variant "resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people."
Here's the very FIRST hit:
Statement from CDC Director Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, MPH ...
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Today, some of those data were published in CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), demonstrating that Delta infection resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people. High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated ...
Normally when people put a name followed by a set of quotes it should be self evident that it is a verbatim quote.
To be honest I am getting fucking tired of going around in never ending circles with you.
I lost two very dear souls this year.
Not directly related to some prognosis about Covidis
but maybe indirectly associated with the failure of our
economic based health care system. They did not have to go.
One was a traveling ICU nurse from Lafayette, the other
a wandering gypsy boat worker from Connecticut.
If there was a social safety net to prevent avoidable deaths
they would both still be with us, helping and caring for others.
It's a damn shame.
The following experts are some of the most eminent individuals in the medical field. They include the most published and cited individuals in virology and epidemiology in the world, a Nobel winner in RNA research, and the inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology at the heart of the new Covid vaccine. They have an irreproachable status that allows them to stand against forces attempting to silence their message. Still they have suffered ridicule, loss of jobs or funding, and even death threats. But their views cannot be ignored. In following is a very brief introduction to the credentials of the experts. Detailed CVs are in the appendix.
virologist — epidemiologist — ♥ critical care — ⊙ vaccinologist — medical analysis
f Robert W Malone MD, MS, virology, immunology, molecular biology, inventor of mRNA vaccines used in the new Covid vaccine, co-inventor of DNA vaccines, with four decades in vaccinology and direct experience with the CDC and FDA. He is the single most qualified mRNA expert to speak on the new Covid vaccines.
f Luc Montagnier MD, virologist, expert in RNA viruses and sequencing, 2008 Nobel Prize for the discovery and sequencing of the HIV virus, professor emeritus at the Institut Pasteur where he was director of the Viral Oncology Unit from 1972 to 2000, Director of Research at the CNRS.
f John Ioannidis MD, D.SC., epidemiologist, clinical researcher, and one of the world’s foremost experts on the credibility of medical research. Author of the most-accessed article in the history of Public Library of Science. He has arguably changed the practice of medicine.
♥f Paul E Marik MD, internist, critical care specialist. Professor of Medicine, Chief of Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine at EVMS. Ranked second in the world in Critical Care Medicine. The Marik Protocol has revolutionized sepsis treatment. Expert in Covid care and developer of the most referenced Covid Treatment Protocols: I-MASK+ and MATH+.
♥f Peter A McCullough MD, internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, Chief of Nutrition and Preventive Medicine at William Beaumont Hospital, editor of two major medical journals, most published person in cardiorenal medicine, expert in Covid early treatment. A leader in the Covid early treatment initiative in the U.S.
♥f Pierre Kory MD, M.P.A., former Chief of the Critical Care Service, Medical Director of the Trauma and Life Support Center at the U of Wisconsin. Pioneer in ultrasound diagnosis and treatment, in therapeutic hypothermia to treat post-cardiac arrest, and in treatment of sepsis. Expert on Ivermectin and co-author of Covid Protocols: I-MASK+ and MATH+.
⊙f Geert Vanden Bossche, vaccinologist, DVM, PhD in virology, and vaccine research expert. He coordinated the Ebola vaccine program at GAVI, was Head of the Vaccine Development Office at German Center for Infection Research in Cologne, author of over 30 publications, and inventor of a patent application for universal vaccines.
f Tess Lawrie MD, MBBCH and Ph.D in philosophy, expert in medical evidence synthesis, consultant to WHO and UK NHS. In March 2021 she founded EbMCsquared CiC in response to the need for independent and objective health care research arising out of the Covid-19 crisis. She also co-founded the BIRD panel, a group of experts dedicated to accurate scientific research of Ivermectin.
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Presented in the following pages is the growing clear consensus of the facts concerning Covid among top tier independent medical experts as of October 2021. It represents a paradigm shift from the consensus presented in the media and by the authorities. There are five mutually supporting topics which all must be shifted for the new understanding. These topics are addressed in the following sections:
1.0 THE ORIGIN OF THE VIRUS Page 3
2.0 THE DISEASE Page 5
3.0 THE VACCINE Page 8
4.0 PUBLIC HEALTH POLICIES & MEASURES Page 18
5.0 READILY AVAILABLE TREATMENTS Page 22
Appendix A—FULL CVs & LIST OF REFERENCES Page 25
Appendix B—VAERS COVID VACCINE QUERY RESULTS Page 31
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@CB
CB, will you repost this again tomorrow? It deserves an entire thread on its own. Took me almost an hour to work thru this paper. There is a tremendous amount of information packed in here. Everything well explained and well sourced. Thanks for sharing.
The following experts are some of the most eminent individuals in the medical field. They include the most published and cited individuals in virology and epidemiology in the world, a Nobel winner in RNA research, and the inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology at the heart of the new Covid vaccine. They have an irreproachable status that allows them to stand against forces attempting to silence their message. Still they have suffered ridicule, loss of jobs or funding, and even death threats. But their views cannot be ignored. In following is a very brief introduction to the credentials of the experts. Detailed CVs are in the appendix.
virologist — epidemiologist — ♥ critical care — ⊙ vaccinologist — medical analysis
f Robert W Malone MD, MS, virology, immunology, molecular biology, inventor of mRNA vaccines used in the new Covid vaccine, co-inventor of DNA vaccines, with four decades in vaccinology and direct experience with the CDC and FDA. He is the single most qualified mRNA expert to speak on the new Covid vaccines.
f Luc Montagnier MD, virologist, expert in RNA viruses and sequencing, 2008 Nobel Prize for the discovery and sequencing of the HIV virus, professor emeritus at the Institut Pasteur where he was director of the Viral Oncology Unit from 1972 to 2000, Director of Research at the CNRS.
f John Ioannidis MD, D.SC., epidemiologist, clinical researcher, and one of the world’s foremost experts on the credibility of medical research. Author of the most-accessed article in the history of Public Library of Science. He has arguably changed the practice of medicine.
♥f Paul E Marik MD, internist, critical care specialist. Professor of Medicine, Chief of Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine at EVMS. Ranked second in the world in Critical Care Medicine. The Marik Protocol has revolutionized sepsis treatment. Expert in Covid care and developer of the most referenced Covid Treatment Protocols: I-MASK+ and MATH+.
♥f Peter A McCullough MD, internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, Chief of Nutrition and Preventive Medicine at William Beaumont Hospital, editor of two major medical journals, most published person in cardiorenal medicine, expert in Covid early treatment. A leader in the Covid early treatment initiative in the U.S.
♥f Pierre Kory MD, M.P.A., former Chief of the Critical Care Service, Medical Director of the Trauma and Life Support Center at the U of Wisconsin. Pioneer in ultrasound diagnosis and treatment, in therapeutic hypothermia to treat post-cardiac arrest, and in treatment of sepsis. Expert on Ivermectin and co-author of Covid Protocols: I-MASK+ and MATH+.
⊙f Geert Vanden Bossche, vaccinologist, DVM, PhD in virology, and vaccine research expert. He coordinated the Ebola vaccine program at GAVI, was Head of the Vaccine Development Office at German Center for Infection Research in Cologne, author of over 30 publications, and inventor of a patent application for universal vaccines.
f Tess Lawrie MD, MBBCH and Ph.D in philosophy, expert in medical evidence synthesis, consultant to WHO and UK NHS. In March 2021 she founded EbMCsquared CiC in response to the need for independent and objective health care research arising out of the Covid-19 crisis. She also co-founded the BIRD panel, a group of experts dedicated to accurate scientific research of Ivermectin.
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Presented in the following pages is the growing clear consensus of the facts concerning Covid among top tier independent medical experts as of October 2021. It represents a paradigm shift from the consensus presented in the media and by the authorities. There are five mutually supporting topics which all must be shifted for the new understanding. These topics are addressed in the following sections:
1.0 THE ORIGIN OF THE VIRUS Page 3
2.0 THE DISEASE Page 5
3.0 THE VACCINE Page 8
4.0 PUBLIC HEALTH POLICIES & MEASURES Page 18
5.0 READILY AVAILABLE TREATMENTS Page 22
Appendix A—FULL CVs & LIST OF REFERENCES Page 25
Appendix B—VAERS COVID VACCINE QUERY RESULTS Page 31
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More Harm Than Good - CCCA
From the Canadian COVID Care Alliance in Canada comes a remarkable video and slide deck (PDF) examining the shortcomings of Pfizer’s clinical trials data of their mRNA COVID-19 “
vaccine” gene therapy.Their conclusions are summarized:
Please watch and/or read to learn about just how inadequate, and even reckless, the hurried EUA approval process and the flawed and truncated clinical trials were. The public was clearly misled and lied to (by omission) about both the safety and efficacy of this product.
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
Will this excellent analysis see
the light of day? How and where?
Not sure how much governments, agencies and ministries got to see before taking their lead from the US, which seems to be a world wide thing.
Fauci and his friends have done all they can to hide how things were done or not.
ETA: I saw your comment about using death all causes data. Yes it's the best way to at least get a sense of what is going on.
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I’m watching the video now
Biggest thing to take from it is Pfizer ran a shoddy if not fraudulent trial. Their jab is less than 1% effective at keeping you from getting Covid and actually causes more chance of illness and a higher risk of death. This study is what lawyers against mandates should be using. The material used in the article and video was taken directly from the information that Pfizer has released. No wonder they want to wait 75 to release it. It’s a good thing that they have received immunity from lawsuits because their own information is the smoking gun that they knew they would cause harm to people.
Video link
https://rumble.com/embed/voaxg5/?pub=qdzr7
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Thanks Snoop.
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Anyone watch the video?
I’d love to see some discussion on it as well as the article opal posted. This would be big news if the media covered it instead of giving Pfizer cover for their lying about the vaccines and how well they protect people.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Hey Snoop, yes I did.
It is a good straightforward presentation. I want to watch it again to be sure it's sourced well.
This is the type of information that should help inform those who need to understand what has been going on.
All of us?
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Great
Thanks for replying on it. Any links you need should be in the main article. It proves that Pfizer’s testing was fraudulent because they left so many people out and lost so many others. Especially the ones for kids. Using previous data that was outdated, but Fauci let them pass it anyway?
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Fauci was part of the scam
I watched it.
It was fantastic. Everything we have been discussing here at The Dose put together in one. Here's is the Rumble version.
Can we have it highlighted for tomorrow's Dose?
Back from a fairly long drive
and lots of unpacking. I will watch it tomorrow, for sure.
Did you mean Ovals, instead of opal? I have been thinking about him a lot, and what he would have to say about current events.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Doh
Yes. I guess I’ve done that all day. It’s what I get for using my memory instead of looking at his name. Heh I love to think about what opal would be making of this.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Excellent - countries with national healthcare systems
have better data to evaluate risk benefit which should have been done by Pfizer for their product. Looking forward seeing similar data on all the products to evaluate efficacy and safety each one for various age groups and health status.
Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.
The warped sense of US balance
President Biden’s chief medical aide, Anthony Fauci, the senior US Covid-19 adviser and national institute director, is slated to receive over $350,000 in annual retirement benefits – the largest in the US government’s history.
Fauci told ABC News earlier this month that he would not step down
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Twitter suspends virologist Robert Malone
Big Tech has silenced the US vaccine researcher famous for helping invent mRNA technology..
Many policies, like vaccine mandates or hoarding of vaccines by wealthy countries, are not based on science, Malone believes. He also speaks critically about the influence that large pharmaceutical companies and wealthy individuals like Bill Gates have on global health affairs.
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Extreme pandemic disparities are not unique to the United States. Oxfam reports that from March 18 to the end of 2020, global billionaire wealth increased by $3.9 trillion. By contrast, global workers’ combined earnings fell by $3.7 trillion, according to the International Labour Organization, as millions lost their jobs around the world.
While U.S. billionaires are seeing their fortunes expand, the pandemic recession has hit low-income workers hardest.
Psychopath Fauci gets his rocks off
from the complete control he has managed to attain over the health regulatory agencies in the US during the preceding 50 years. He has already amassed more money than he can ever spend but it is the power and control that motivates him.
He can say ANYTHING in order to manipulate those around him - even giving quite contrary 'advice' and even lying on aspects of how the country should handle the COVID-19 pandemic from week to week. Unfortunately the captured media and half of the legislators and voters will follow these commands in complete lockstep without a backwards thought.
I am afraid that J. Edgar Fauci will never resign but will die peacefully and untroubled in his sleep despite the deaths and destruction he has wreaked on the world. This man has no conscience.
Bingo! One quibble...
J. Edgar Hoover complained that he could not win against the CIA under Dulles. In a short time he and his successors have wrought havoc on the US and the rest of the world.
Your use of psychopath couldn't be more apt.
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Omicron still looks promising
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM2VgBm9pTI]
If you've seen any MSM, all you've heard the hysteria about the number of cases, but not the mildness of the disease.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
I'm surprised they still use the word
cases. There is never an attempt to clarify how many are sick with or in hospitals for other reasons.
People are tired of the fear mongering, but don't know how to determine what is really going on.
We can only hope the truth will leak from so many sources, planned and unplanned, that eventually in addition to the adverse events experienced by friends and family, many will resist.
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"The Way Out
Is Through the Door."
An old Buddhist saying. Usually followed by, "Why will no one use this method?"
Snark aside, and apologies for it...
The open door I see is the repeated long enduring reporting of Omicron as Mild. At first people could say that it is a slow developing variant, so just you all wait. You'll see. It is scary, I tell you. Scary.
That BS has expired. Omicron is mild. The PCR tests coming up with huge positives are suspect, only marginally useful. (That's why Biden is dumping 1/2 billion of these kits on the public. Paying the Manufacturers for their poor product in one last money grab. As grateful idiots on media try to turn this bilking of our tax dollars into a Biden plus.)
Omicron will peter out. As soon as in January, 2022. There will be a mad scramble for the next fear/distraction to fill up the news void.
NYCVG
The next scare .. wait for it
Virus deadly to rabbits found in multiple areas of Oregon
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Oregon Child Dies From Flesh-Eating Bacteria After Falling Off His Bike
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750 sickened in Oregon restaurants as cult known as the Rajneeshees spread salmonella in town of The Dalles
~
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Virulent bacteria affecting oysters found to be a case of mistaken identity
CORVALLIS, Ore. -
"The Vibrio genus and many bacteria associated with it are a huge problem in fish and shellfish aquaculture, and we should be studying them more aggressively," Häse said. "V. coralliilyticus, in particular, has a very powerful toxin delivery system, and vibrios are some of the smartest of all bacteria. They can smell, sense things and swim toward a host."
~
Let's hope the gain of function mad scientists don't visit Oregon anytime soon
missed this headline in the Oregonian yesterday
Oregon records 1st cases of rare, serious fungal infection Candida auris in 3 Salem patients
Today
The highways are dangerous
‘I never saw it coming’: ODOT worker recounts close call with falling tree amid Oregon spike in holiday crashes
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEasAY28He4]
Coronavirus cases continue to spike in Oregon; 2,331 new cases, nine deaths My county is leading the race to declare new cases. Our hospital system was one of the first to ask for Oregon National Guard due to staff burnouts and quitting due to vaccine mandates.
They have treated staff poorly for years. Less healthcare workers are moving to the area and new graduates are unavailable to compensate poor treatment of employees.
Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.
Happy New Year, SOE.
Thanks for the news from my home state. That transportation worker is one lucky person.
Multnomah Falls was where Mr. Meta and I stopped for dinner on one of our first datey. We also got engaged there.
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Happy New Year and Well wishes to The Homestead crew
Another example of Oregon stupidity and ingenuity from the home state during winter storm season. In news today.
Corbett fire chief describes harrowing rescue of woman clinging to Multnomah Falls cliff
Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.
Mon Dieu. That is horrifying.
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Yeah, that's the one I was looking for
saw it earlier, but could not re-locate it, so just threw-up a bunch of the other scare tactics they are using to keep peeps locked down and scared. What a crock of crap this is. Rabbits and killer amides
may be good for haunting the paranoids, but it doesn't pass the smell test. Which is a way of saying the whole kit and caboodle is cooked up from the git-go.
From your neck of the woods
I imagine you are familiar with this hospital SoE - my father died there, as it happens - thus the abuse and suffering these people went through (Spoiler Alert: husband died ten days after this interview) is, unfortunately, not all that surprising.
Interview with Lars Larsen on Rumble
John Robert Harper obituary:
https://www.tamispinevalleyfuneralhome.com/obituary/John-Harper
If there is anything I could do for you,
don't hesitate to send me a pm, friend.
I am so very sorry you have suffered such tragic losses.
May your husband RIP.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
*Really* appreciate the concern - but miscommunication
on my part.
My father did die in the hospital in question (St. Charles - Bend, OR) but that was over ten years ago and another sordid story of medical system failure.
The situation I linked to was one that I just happened to run across that was A - close to home due to the above and Oregon still being my stateside official residence, B - all too representative an experience that people are being subjected to all around the US, as well as many other countries and C - it was more or less on topic and that this happened in what I believe is SoE's (Central Oregon, right?) 'neighborhood' and might be of particular interest to (him, right?).
Certainly appreciate the expressions of concern, but at the moment I (and my wife) are fine, unjabbed, taking our IVM and enjoying a sunny New Year's Day in Japan.
But those of us who have survived 2021 more or less intact should not be forgetting those who didn't and suffered and/or died needlessly. Like the the late Mr. Harper and his wife.
Year of the Tiger - maybe we need to be channelling some of that spirit to deal with what is no doubt going to be a challenging 2022
I am so relieved!
Still the situation in that video is unforgettably sad.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Know the hospital system too well
Work very hard to avoid having myself or those I care about spend time at the main hospital in Bend or the three (formally independent) rural hospitals they acquired between 2001 and 2013. There is now no option for hospital care without traveling 120 miles minimum.
The first write up was a little confusing and I thought perhaps it was your father. Would of answered, except I was reflecting how fortunate I was able to visit my Sister and intervene as her patient advocate during 3 stays in 2014. Each time wondering is she was going to make it out alive and recover from treatment related complications from the current stay. Even meals were an issue. My purse was filled with small containers of food since the kitchen could not deliver low salt, low carb food and avoid known allergens.
Ah, the clarification, a little over 10 years ago was your Father's death. The time matches two awful short stays a couple years apart my Father had for acute issues with severe COPD and heart related issues. Even with Medical Power of Attorney I was barely able to keep them from prescribing an antipsychotic (chemical restraint). An intense meeting was requested by administration between their representative, attending physicians and myself to discuss the need for medical options for nursing to use for his care/safety. At the time he had an order not walk to the bathroom without assistance. It abruptly ended when administration representative complained to me Dad's use of the call button for assistance was interfering with the night nurses ability to complete his paperwork for the shift in a timely manner. From the shock on the physician's face I don't think he fully realized why drug treatment had been requested by the night nurse.
In 2013 his condition began to worsen again. The option was return to hospital for short term aggressive treatment or hospice. He chose hospice.
One thinks it can not get worse. but then there is the example from October. Don't remember seeing the story in the local news. Only listen to Lars when driving on the weekly trip to town.
Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.
Omg, Blue Republic, I am so
sorry.
I am deeply aware of OHSU the one and only medical school in Oregon.
I worked there for awhile in the ,1980s.
Later confronted the Oregon medical establishment on treatment for illnesses they wanted nothing to do with. We had to leave the state to get help. Hard to do when you're sick.
In Washington where there are several medical schools, there was more than one approach to medical care.
I am outraged for you and hope you will find peace. Your interview with Lars was excellent.
I don't know what I could do to help, but if there is anything I can do, please let me know.
Much love, Dawn
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Thank you, DM - but I miscommunicated
See my reply to OtC.
Very much appreciate the concern/outrage - it is completely justified - however this did not happen to me. Apologies for not making that clear.
I just stumbled across the interview and linked to it as being a close (for me and I think SoE) to home example of what has been happening to *many* people in the US and elsewhere. (link below is to a not dissimilar situation in Canada)
Again, apologies for not communicating the situation clearly.
Bonne Année ! from Japan,
- BR
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zhgxN5OXSHHN/
QMS, my ex and I got sick
eating at a salad bar in Hood River, Oregon, along the Columbia River. The Rajneeshee bunch were very much in control of Antelope, Oregon.
Sure cured me of eating from open food bars.
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Hah. Good one. It's a
constant effort to keep us all in fear.
Hope you are doing ok. I just cringe at what is going on in NYC.
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The way out of all this is to get more people vaccinated.
As long as people continue to deny that the vaccines do work in keeping people from experiencing the worst of the disease and continue to take space in our hospitals (which is keeping people I know from being able to get knee replacements) this will drag on and actually give more time for new variants to pop up. Unvaccinated people are and will be the cause of the lengthening of this pandemic.
There I said it.
Happy New Year.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
oops
oh well
social engineering has such a bright future!
Yep...
This whole thing is not about public health, it's about controlling the masses. I know, I read that in a lawsuit.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Care to share that information with us?
The ICC lawsuit. How did you miss that?
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
you just don't get it
trying to be nice, play well with others, etc.
If there was a lawsuit that pertained to keeping
you in or out of a mental hospital, would that be
like your argument? I read it in a lawsuit, so therefore
it must be so. Ever hear of false pretenses?
How about critical thinking? Just around the bend ..
Are you done yet with the personal attacks?
The lawsuit I was referring to was the ICC one brought up by someone else on here.
If you aren't in on all the conversations, you end up making poorly informed comments. And here is yet another example.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Direct from the CDC
Well... let's see...this was August.
Could have been one of the indicators that the vaccines can wane in protection which lead to the advice to add boosters. Also there is this from that same report...
The findings in this report are subject to at least four limitations. First, data from this report are insufficient to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against SARS-CoV-2, including the Delta variant, during this outbreak. As population-level vaccination coverage increases, vaccinated persons are likely to represent a larger proportion of COVID-19 cases. Second, asymptomatic breakthrough infections might be underrepresented because of detection bias. Third, demographics of cases likely reflect those of attendees at the public gatherings, as events were marketed to adult male participants; further study is underway to identify other population characteristics among cases, such as additional demographic characteristics and underlying health conditions including immunocompromising conditions.*** MA DPH, CDC, and affected jurisdictions are collaborating in this response; MA DPH is conducting additional case investigations, obtaining samples for genomic sequencing, and linking case information with laboratory data and vaccination history. Finally, Ct values obtained with SARS-CoV-2 qualitative RT-PCR diagnostic tests might provide a crude correlation to the amount of virus present in a sample and can also be affected by factors other than viral load.††† Although the assay used in this investigation was not validated to provide quantitative results, there was no significant difference between the Ct values of samples collected from breakthrough cases and the other cases. This might mean that the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with SARS-CoV-2 is also similar. However, microbiological studies are required to confirm these findings.
So now you trust the CDC's reporting?
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
dupe
Unfortunately, the troller is not interested in logics
somehow it swallowed the vax hook
and is unable to dislodge that subliminal
prejudice without dissing the 'less informed'
Well thanks for showing us our disbelief!
There is something very basic this poster
does not understand. That's OK. I didn't get
the whole god concept for awhile. Difference is,
I did not blame others for my ignorance.
Did you pay any attention to what was posted?
CB linked a story from the CDC. I pointed out that the event in MA regarding the high numbers of infection of vaccinated people could have been one of the indicators that the vaccines were losing strength, and then I copied and pasted from the same article the CDC's explanation of caveats regarding the numbers.
I think you are so intent on slamming me (and name calling) that you didn't even make any sense of the interchange or my comment to CB.
Please do not bother to address me again, and I'll certainly do the same with you.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
I always share my sources
You have to back up where you got your information so I can evaluate it.
If some of your comment are in fact true then it tells us that herd immunity will NEVER be reached by vaccinations alone but rather by infection eventually giving full natural immunity.
It is now of even greater importance to minimize the complications of COVID-19 BEFORE contracting disease or, in the least, at the onset of disease where it's pathogenicity can be ameliorated. To date, the CDC makes NO recommendation of what to do in these two situations, no matter what one's co-morbiditiy, other than to remain at home, isolate and come to hospital for admission if breathing becomes laboured and life threatening. Doesn't sound like a very good policy to me. It is asking for trouble
Therefore the reasoning and subsequent recommendations given by the FLCCC have been correct since the very beginning of this pandemic which has now evolved to include the vaccinated.
Gah! I quoted from the same CDC article you linked!
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Simple request. Name where you found it
I didn't see any quote marks in your reply. I supply a lot of information from many sources. I'm not going to waste my time reading and trying to figure out where you got stuff from until you supply a source.
This dance is getting tedious but I'll take another turn with you.
My claim:
Here's one of the caveats you put forward from the same CDC sourced finding to negate this finding:
This was confirmed by the head of the CDC herself:
Walensky: The Delta variant “resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people.”
Can you finally accept the fact that both the unvaxxed and the vaxxed are just as likely to spread the disease so vaccinations cannot be counted on to provide herd immunity and we MUST now rely on natural immunity to end the pandemic?
But this will open up another can of worms if the vaccine doesn't perform as efficacious as it should. Have you ever heard of The Original Antigenic Sin? This could mean that those who were vaccinated cannot ever be counted on to provide herd immunity. We will then have to depend on the unvaxxed (if enough them remain) or forever be dependent on bi-annual jabs futilely chasing the virus mutations at a cost of tens of billion$ a year. (Damn Fauci would have multiple orgasms if that wet dream came true for him.)
The link you posted to the Barnstable MA report
took me here....https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm
The paragraph that started with the highlighted sentence is at the end of the report. I forgot to put quotation marks around it. Since you provided the link, I assumed you read the whole report.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
What you describe as being
the source of hospital's problems do not square with what people on the ground are saying.
This example is from Ventura Co., Southern California - but whistleblowing nurses, EMT's and such are reporting very similar from all over the place
from excellent reporting by the Conejo Guardian
see also Queensland, Australia
Louisiana
Arizona...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obdI7tgKLtA]
Breaking news...
Dr. Robert Malone has lost his Twitter account.
He isn't surprised because he knew he was breaking their rules when he posted that the Pfizer vaccine does more harm than good and that children shouldn't take it.
https://techstartups.com/2021/12/29/dr-robert-malone-supposed-inventor-m...
HOWEVER..... this kind of stuff just makes martyrs out of people and robs everyone of the chance to counter his "information". I'm against all this censorship crap that is going on and while I think Malone should heavily criticized for all the harm he has done to science, I don't like turning the spotlight off of him. He's just going to go "underground" and probably take his 500,000 followers with him. Twitter has the right to do it, but should be slammed for doing it also.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Dr. Malone lost his twatter account?
No biggy. I never got one and neither has my son who's an engineering department head - he says it is a waste of time.
BTW, Dr. Malone has got his LinkedIn account re-instated.
You can get his articles at his website:
It’s not ‘breaking news' either
I reported it yesterday but I guess that’s what happens when you aren’t up to date on discussions like someone else was accused of.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
twitter sucks.
About the 3rd Reich nurses video from yesterday
I wonder how many here would have done what the nurses did? They are advocating for the unjabbed to be denied treatment and to be stuck in tents to deal with it on their own. One person tried to bring some sanity to the discussion, but was shot down.
From once advocating for insurance for all to second class citizens. Very strange.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Well, I certainly know how that feels!
"One person tried to bring some sanity to the discussion, but was shot down."
Nurses are getting burned out and tired of hearing people who are about to die crying because they wish they had been vaccinated... just saw an interview with a nurse who expressed this. It does not excuse the sentiment of putting unvaccinated people out in the cold, but one can appreciate the high level of frustration.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
@Fishtroller 02
Hospitals BEGGING Nurses to Return to Work After FIRING Them for Refusing Vaccine
Vaccinated Doctors are Dying and Unvaccinated Doctors are Quitting or Being Fired: Who will Run the Hospitals?
New York hospitals fire, suspend staff who refuse COVID vaccine
How many employees have hospitals lost to vaccine mandates? Here are the numbers so far
I go to my local clinic for blood work every 3 months. The last 3 times I've seen prominent posters "Nurses Wanted", "Now Hiring". On the last two occasions my blood was taken by young Filipino nurses who could barely speak English. One time the nurse was accompanied by a supervisor who had to help the trainee use the proper draw tube for the sample she was drawing. The supervisor nurse said it was because many nurses were quitting instead of taking the vaccine. She said she only decided to take the jab was because she is a single mom and she couldn't afford not to work. She said some of the nurses were lucky because they could rely on their spouses.
My daughter and her husband
make a thousand a day each for working Covid care. You guessed it. They are both nurses.
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The second story is from an opinion blog which
Provides no stats on doctors dying of covid or vaccinations, so it's just conjecture. Once again, one must prove beyond a doubt that the virus and/or the vaccine is directly related to the injury or death. This article provides nothing on that.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
We were talking about health care workers,
including doctors, who are quitting rather than take the vaccine.
That should tell you something about the jab. They see things that they are not allowed to speak of by their management, such as deaths and injuries with those that took the vaccine. Many times they are actively discouraged from reporting to VAERS or they are given insufficient time to do so. Many front line nurses are the ones that can make better informed decisions due to their experiences.
Doesn't it concern you that the establishment has evolved from stating the vaccines were 100% safe, 100% effective in preventing COVID-19 to now admitting the vaxxed can get infected and can carry as much or even more viral load in their pharynx as the unvaxxed and can also be hospitalized and die? BTW, this would have shown up if they had not truncated the safety and efficacy trials at 90 days - which is interestingly the same time frame at which these vaccines start to loose their efficacy. You do realize that we are now at the booster phase which will be required to maintain fully vaccinated status barely a year in since the vaccine program started.
Have you got your booster yet? Are you willing to get it bi-annually when it becomes mandated? Would you be willing to take a booster if you actually contract the disease in the interim? From your comments I would surmise you will do everything to comply with the "authorities" - whatever their demands become.
Weird huh how they just accept the newest narrative
"The vaccines were never meant to give protection against infections."
Oh yeah? From Fauci’s own mouth.
I just left a thread on my local rag and 9/10 people insist that we never told that they would keep us from getting infected, but only that they would lessen symptoms and keep us out of hospital. There’s a good chance we are seeing ADE with omicron but it’s being blamed on those stinking unjabbed instead. If I had gotten something that I was told would protect me I would be questioning the effectiveness of the product. But they are blaming vaccine failures on those who haven’t taken it. The power of propaganda pushed by the PTB and their mouthpieces. They see how effective it is.
The video from the article opal posted shows that they only had a less than 1% chance of working to protect people from getting infected not the 95% that drug companies told us. Again it borders on a fraudulent study. I posted the link for it if anyone wants to see for themselves.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Twatter deleted my link of that
I wonder how long this one will last.
From a link in one of the articles posted
That seems to have been one of the goals all along. I pointed that out the day she said it and now it’s becoming what you and others are seeing in your health care. Foreign workers are one way to lower wages across the board. This has been happening for some time, but it’s being accelerated in all industries. How does it make sense to fire long term nurses and then bring in national guard people who have to leave their jobs to go work elsewhere? What about their place of employment? Especially when they don’t have to be jabbed until the middle of next year?
And this:
Hey guv, guess what? This doesn’t hold water anymore and both Fauci and Walensky have admitted that it. One judge who ruled for mandates mentioned that too and said that more Americans have died from the Rona then in all wars combined. (Let’s count all the deaths from our wars. 20-30 million if you didn’t know.) He’s not ruling on the legal part, but on the panic that has been manufactured. 2 countries have modified their death totals down to 3% of the number. Others will follow suit and we need someone to do a FOIA on the true numbers. Also the federal government is not tracking how many people are getting breakthrough infections, but only those who are admitted to hospitals. Boy that will keep the numbers low won’t it?
Aaron Siri is an attorney who is representing lots of people against the mandates. He should be using the information in the video showing how Pfizer committed fraud to get the vaccines passed.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Well I'm guessing that these people wish they never got
vaccinated. If this isn't genocide then it must be murder
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/athlete-collapsesdeaths-following
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
What is remarkable is how ignorant the entire pack
of them are to the pathology of SARS-CoV-2 compared to people here at C99%.
Everyone will be exposed...
Fortunately omicron is usually asymptomatic or presents as a cold.
https://www.citizensjournal.us/cdc-admits-that-fully-vaccinated-american...
https://www.newsweek.com/covid-cases-are-surging-five-most-vaccinated-st...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/12/16/covid-surges-in-4-of-...
Vaccines may prevent some serious effects in some people, but will not prevent the contagion and spread of omicron.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
I'm not sure that the true
benefit of the injections might be less than getting the infection.
There have been statistics saying that the risk/benefit analysis shows less upside than prevention and early treatment. Wish I could find those studies.
I am firmly against censorship. I don't agree with what you believe but will defend to death your right to state your beliefs.
Not aimed at you LO, but thought it should be said.
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I agree...
I'm featuring this on Sunday...
https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/downloads/en/vaccines/vaccinereport.pdf
My previous comment was an attempt to counter the argument that this would go away if everyone was vaccinated. That is clearly not the case.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
In a couple of previous The Dose
there were stats from Europe about adverse events.
I'm still not sure how accurate or trustworthy they are, and not sure how to determine such.
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The center for Medicare reported 45,500 deaths
a few months ago so no doubt that number is higher today.. then there’s this number from Europe.
32,649 Deaths 3,003,296 Injuries Following COVID Shots in European Database of Adverse Reactions as Young, Previously Healthy People Continue to Suffer
Again there is a breakdown of each injury caused by which vaccines. We will be getting an update from Vaers soon and as of last month deaths stood at over 20,000. Hundreds of athletes have had adverse effects or died after getting jabbed. In the link opal provided there’s video of athletes collapsing during games. And it’s weird how many people are suddenly dying…I guess most people suddenly die, but it’s usually not the headline.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
That sure seems to back up my claim that
tens of thousands of people have died from them. Unless people can’t do math. And again those cases have been verified by the agencies that post them and they are under reported by at least 41% according to a study done by Harvard.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
This is interesting, but it looks like a lot of the numbers...
might reflect people dying with the vaccine and not from it?
Here is a random bit of their numbers:
21,574 Eye disorders incl. 35 deaths
115,450 Gastrointestinal disorders incl. 602 deaths
354,635 General disorders and administration site conditions incl. 4,251 deaths
1,589 Hepatobiliary disorders incl. 78 deaths
15,371 Immune system disorders incl. 77 deaths
57,255 Infections and infestations incl. 1,605 deaths
22,928 Injury, poisoning and procedural complications incl. 261 deaths
34,691 Investigations incl. 464 deaths
9,568 Metabolism and nutrition disorders incl. 256 deaths
172,420 Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders incl. 187 deaths
1,254 Neoplasms benign, malignant and unspecified (incl cysts and polyps) incl. 122 deaths
236,435 Nervous system disorders incl. 1,609 deaths
2,000 Pregnancy, puerperium and perinatal conditions incl. 60 deaths
215 Product issues incl. 3 deaths
25,493 Psychiatric disorders incl. 182 deaths
Many of these are not acute type diseases but more of the chronic type (e.g. Neoplasms benign, malignant and etc (including cysts and polyps)). I would think it would be a real stretch to accuse the vaccine of causing many of these conditions or deaths.
I could be missing something, but is this anything more than counting the number of people who died in the past year that were vaccinated and then died of something besides covid?
I would really like to know how safe, or dangerous, the vaccine is, and for whom. This data dump of people who have died after receiving the vaccine feels like its goal is to generate fear of the vaccine.
I hope that you know I'm not questioning you snoop, just the article.
It’s a great question
I’m going to read it more thoroughly and see if I can answer you. Give me a few…I’ll post it in the current day’s dose if I do so it doesn’t get lost.
Thanks!
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Here is one possible explanation
*These totals are estimates based on reports submitted to EudraVigilance. Totals may be much higher based on percentage of adverse reactions that are reported. Some of these reports may also be reported to the individual country’s adverse reaction databases, such as the U.S. VAERS database and the UK Yellow Card system. The fatalities are grouped by symptoms, and some fatalities may have resulted from multiple symptoms.
It does seem weird that an eye disorder would cause death and it doesn’t say what the disorder is. If it causes a clotting disorder then it wouldn’t be just be localized in the eye, but be systematic in other organs like the heart or lung or others. I’ve read that people have suddenly lost eyesight and I assumed it was due to blood clots because it’s usually that or retinal detachment that causes sudden vision loss. A high percentage of people tested with a D-dimer blood test have abnormal numbers meaning that there are micro clots in the blood stream which is usually not good news. Lots of people have had decreased platelet levels which can cause clots everywhere in the body.
That’s all I feel comfortable theorizing on as I’m only knowledgeable about lab tests and ophthalmology and not the other areas. As the report states there can be multiple symptoms which I think I just described for the info listed for other causes. Just my guess anyway.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Not sure about European stats
but I can say with certainty that it took me 7 months to fully recover from my second Pfizer jab.
Two weeks after I got that second shot I began on a long road of acute choking/coughing up phlegm which kept me awake at night and carrying a spitting cup from room to room with me for a long 7 months.
Many days I could not talk on the phone or when I went out with my mask on. Everybody around me knew that I could not speak without coughing spitting fits so family texted and emailed and neighbors talked to me and I used hand gestures to communicate as best I could.
The pattern was some recovery and then a relapse.
My lungs were clear. My oxygen levels were normal. No fever. I had not had a cold or a cough for decades before this happened, and I routinely took my Vitamin D, exercised everyday and never was interested in junk food. No co-morbidities. Normal weight. Initially the doctor said that old people take a long time to get over their colds. wtf?
Doctor finally diagnosed Vaccine overdose.
NYCVG
NYCVG, wow, that is nasty.
Do you know if your case was submitted to VAERS?
In March of 2020 I had a very odd and more intense pneumonia. The infection went directly to my lungs. I can't take antibiotics, so as with previous respiratory infections, I treated with steaming enhaled essential oils, Vit C, curcuma and ginger tea, whiskey with honey and lemon hot tea, and a few other things I can't remember.
I was over it in about ten days.
Both of us take IVM 24 mg twice a week as a protease inhibitor. Also Zinc, VitD3, Aloe Vera,B12, Vit C, Lysine.
We still drink our ginger - turmeric tea and as needed breathe steamy essential oils.
Somehow it all seems to help.
I'm so glad you're better. Hard not to be distressed in stressful times.
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Just grateful to be healthy again.
Glad you are as well.
NYCVG
There have been no studies authorized
by the Fauci controlled NAID and CDC that is examining the prevention and amelioration of COVID-19 other than EUA vaccines. The new prophylactics from Pfizer and Merck have yet to obtain the required EUA for their widespread application. I believe this is expected early in 2022 after less than 6 months of safety and efficacy testing.
Both have gotten it earlier this week
But then this happened.
What was left out is that Merck’s drug causes cancer and birth defects which is why they had to discontinue the trial for using it on another disease. Kinda like how remdisiver is known to cause kidney problems but Fauci decided to use it across the board for every person whose oxygen level dropped below a certain point. Kinda like AZT too.
If only there were many repurposed drugs that could be used to save lives…if only. Oh wait.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Where in the two links to "natural news" do you see
see the "announcement" that the CDC is directly quoted as stating that vaccinated persons are "super spreaders" of the virus?
The CDC has stated that vaccinated people can get and pass on the virus. We have all known that for months.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
your arguments are getting stale
is there no-where in your critical thinking skills to
dis-believe where you have obviously decided to reject
any counter arguments? Lighten-up. There is actually
more than one way to peel a carrot.
I think it is important to point out
that these kinds of sources are how exaggerations and outright false information get started. The CDC never said that vaccinated people are "super spreaders". To report that as fact does not help anyone make a decision about the vaccines nor does it add to knowledge, nor does it help conversation.
With all the pretty much over the top claims being posted daily on the Dose (like tens of thousands of people have died from the vaccines or the whole pandemic was planned), you pick my scrutinizing a source to call out.
This is why I say that The Dose is a one-sided conversation with frequent attempts to discourage any POVs about the nature of the pandemic and the vaccines that fall from the anti vax rhetoric to be considered.
To see this kind of behavior here on C99 continues to amaze me.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
The CDC has now confirmed
that the vaxxed carry as much of the viral load in their nasal passages as the unvaxxed,
Walensky: The Delta variant “resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people.”
Fauci: “All while doctors warned of games becoming potential super-spreader events."
You are playing a semantics game. What's good for the goose is also good for the gander.
Link to Walensky statement please.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
That was a DIRECT QUOTE from Walensky
But I'll play your game:
Thank you.
I didn't know asking for direct sources was "playing" a game.
This statement was from last July and involved Delta. I haven't seen anything yet on whether carriers of Omicron are also carrying a large viral load.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
I'll give you a hint
Copy the entire line and put it in DuckDuck
Here's the very FIRST hit:
Normally when people put a name followed by a set of quotes it should be self evident that it is a verbatim quote.
To be honest I am getting fucking tired of going around in never ending circles with you.
Sorry to say
I lost two very dear souls this year.
Not directly related to some prognosis about Covidis
but maybe indirectly associated with the failure of our
economic based health care system. They did not have to go.
One was a traveling ICU nurse from Lafayette, the other
a wandering gypsy boat worker from Connecticut.
If there was a social safety net to prevent avoidable deaths
they would both still be with us, helping and caring for others.
It's a damn shame.
Covid Facts - Points of Consensus
@CB CB, will you repost this
CB, will you repost this again tomorrow? It deserves an entire thread on its own. Took me almost an hour to work thru this paper. There is a tremendous amount of information packed in here. Everything well explained and well sourced. Thanks for sharing.
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