Just what does Kamala bring to the Biden ticket?

Thank you Tulsi for that marvelous take down of Harris that she never recovered from. Harris said that she "Knew that she would take hits because "she was a top tier candidate and besides Tulsi is an individual who is an Assad apologist" so there."

I guess it depends who she is talking to.

I don't think that she is talking to us because the country is basically only working to let the rich get richer and the poor to fend for themselves.

Notice she says Commander in Chief, not President. I think that says a lot about the dem party platform.

Kamala is coming to Utah in Oct to debate Pence. Yippie.... I can't wait to go watch this. Oh wait. We're going to have Zoom debates aren't we?

>Sanders was the winner of Utah’s Super Tuesday presidential primary on March 3, with more than 36% of the vote. Biden came in second, with just over 18%. Harris had withdrawn her name from the Utah ballot after dropping out of the presidential race in December.

Lex Scott, founder of Black Lives Matter Utah and a co-chair of Sanders’ presidential campaign in Utah, described herself as a reluctant Biden supporter who didn’t want to see Harris on the ticket because of her record as a prosecutor.

Still, Scott said she is encouraging others to vote for Biden as the “lesser of two evils” compared to Trump.

“Joe, we need you to do more than find a Black woman as a running mate. We need structural changes in this country that help to end racial inequality. It is symbolic, so thank you,” she said, adding that while many see his choice as something to celebrate, others “need to see more than surface-level” attention to the issue.

Well what do the folks here think of this pick?

This Democrat is going to vote republican this year. No way can I vote for what Biden wants to do with our country.

I'll be voting Republican as well this time. No way I'm voting for someone with such radical views as Kamala.

Mmm nope. I was this close to voting D but she's too liberal for me and everyone knows she'll be the de facto President. I will vote L or write in someone, but I won't be a part of destroying the country with whichever major ticket wins. We lose either way.

It only took Tulsi 30 seconds of a debate to end her whole campaign.

LoL... Trump could just play that video of Tulsi tearing Harris a new one for the rest of the election season. Plus all the videos of Biden talking when he can't form a coherent sentence. Or the one from the debate where he gets so lost he decided that his time was up.

Yes, and Tulsi would have been a great pick for VP. She would have been a shoe-in for the Democrats in 2024. Kamala? not so much

A Passion for Justice

Biden's family has gotten very rich off the government teat just like the Trump family has. In fact once again his brother is being looked at for fudging the rules and ripping off donors as he has off and on since big brother Joe got elected 4 decades ago. Lots of families of people in government grift. It's just too easy to do.

Kamala Harris Assembles Campaign Staff Of Unpaid California Prison Laborers

WASHINGTON—On the heels of yesterday’s announcement that she would be running for president, Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) reportedly began staffing her campaign Tuesday with unpaid inmates from California correctional facilities. “I’m so grateful to have such an incredible and devoted team headed up by my new campaign manager, Spider, as we work together to fight for American values,” said Harris of the two dozen non-violent criminal offenders who would reportedly work shifts of up to 72 hours out of her campaign office in exchange for three square meals a day and all the “Kamala Harris 2020” merchandise they could carry. “Whether it’s knocking on doors, leading focus groups, making phone calls, or helping prep me for upcoming media appearances, my entire staff will be comprised of unpaid prison laborers. Not only will this cut campaign-related expenses by up to $20 million, it will also allow inmates to spend time in the community and provide them with valuable work-related opportunities.” Harris added that due to a quirk in California state law, most inmates would be ineligible to work for other political campaigns once they’d been released from prison.

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Seriously? Didn't this already fail?

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mass demexit.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

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It might even stick this time. Who knows?

Hope springs eternal.

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Imagine it would have been Rice?

If Biden Picks Rice as VP, It Strengthens His Worst Instincts
There is a transcript of the podcast on the linked page. Paul Jay talks to Phyllis Bennis and Stephen Zunes.

Besides Kamala has the bigger smile ... Wink If that doesn't mean something I don't know what does. /ducking

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@mimi
Problem is, her graceful concession to Harris might be her foot in the door for a Secretary of State appointment.

Every time I expect the Democratic Party to disappoint, they exceed my expectations by leaps and bounds.

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@ovals49

Susan Rice as Secretary of State.

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I'm sure they're probably reveling in the fact that we all thought Tulsi ended her. But I'm honestly not surprised. I kind of figured she'd be the one. They can't miss the chance to rub our faces in it.

However, as you point out, the DNC ain't the only ones enjoying this. If anything could give Trump 2024 a shot in the arm it would be this. Like you say, all he has to do is play that video over and over again. OTOH, given that he's a president botching the management of an epidemic, he'd probably lose against the Demented Racism ticket even if we had actual elections with votes that counted. It's kind of hard to lose to a president who told people a disease was nothing to worry about, that they should gargle Lysol or something, and then stood there being an asshole while more than a hundred thousand people died. Although, if his name were Bush or Clinton, I'm sure the PTB would come up with some way to excuse his behavior.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal I still think it was supposed to be Kamala's turn. I felt that way in the run up to the primary season and I never stopped feeling that she had some pretty powerful people propping her up. The kool kids can gloat about her getting the VP nod, but she was supposed to be top of the ticket, until Tulsi ruined that for her. They couldn't even tip the scales in her direction, she was that damaged. I don't feel Biden wanted her as his VP, but I don't think he had a say either.

So if Trump loses, it's a win/win for both sides. Biden gets to have been president, for however long they let him be, and the establishment will eventually get president Kamala against the wishes of the voters. Not so great for the rest of us, but without a complete burn it down and start over of our government, I don't think it really matters anymore.

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The only way Joe Biden is “going to be like FDR” is that he will die in office and leave a shitty vice president as a replacement.

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@Dr. John Carpenter Absolutely she was the one they wanted-- for days I have been hunting for a NY Times piece from January 2017 (or at the very latest, February) that reported Harris's trip to the Hamptons in early winter of 2017 to be vetted and feted by Her Heinous's donors, i.e., Wall Street, AIPAC, NYC (NeoLib) $$, etc. Can't find it, but did find one in the Guardian that also spoke of that pre-selection before the first vote was cast. So, yeah, this is who they wanted all along, black Hillary.....

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@Fionnsboy I remember seeing something similar. I couldn’t remember how or when she first appeared on my radar but I think it was around then.

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Hamptons that gave us the clue that she was the chosen candidate. She might have gone farther during the primary except for Tulsi’s takedown on her heinous record as AG. This is what Bernie supporters are most upset about. During the BLM protests the democrats go with the guy who wrote the crime bill and the woman who enforced it. There contempt for us is plain to see as is the contempt of many centrists.

I’m being lectured on Twitter to not say anything bad about Harris and to make sure that I vote for Biden. Hey even Joe has told us to vote for someone else if we didn’t like his policies. This is good enough for me to do just that. But it all comes down to this:

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They stole the election from us and then they told us to go to Hell by not moving any inches to the left. So F em. I will not reward them with my vote which just says that I’m okay with what they did and I have nowhere else to go. Watch me. Watch US.

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@Fionnsboy

Maybe this from July, 2017, will help: Dems’ rising star meets with Clinton inner circle in Hamptons

More: Democratic donors still think they can anoint rising stars in the Hamptons

Still more: They Named Her Kamala: Clinton Staff, Donors Anoint 2020 Candidate

I'm sure there's a NY Slimes article, but they don't like me looking at what they write.

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@travelerxxx Thanks.

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The only way Joe Biden is “going to be like FDR” is that he will die in office and leave a shitty vice president as a replacement.

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@Dr. John Carpenter

is "would any political person want to be biden's Veep?" i know many of you have extremely high regard for tulsi gabbard: would she have wanted it?

we'll never know who chose Copmala (h/t aliasalias) but she seems to be a twin of biden's in many respects.

as to the voters, this was on the msn. homepage linking to this ipsos poll aug 12

from msn.com:

Harris, who is less well-known than the three men, has a favorability rating of 35%, while 31% view her unfavorably. Her favorability soars to 71% among Democrats.

That number among Black Americans, a core constituency of the party's base, stands at 52% but a large portion, roughly 40%, doesn't know enough about her to rate her or had no opinion of her.

Just over one-third of Americans have a favorable opinion of President Donald Trump, while a clear majority -- 58% -- have an unfavorable view of the president. Nearly one-third view Vice President Mike Pence favorably, while 45% have an unfavorable impression of him. (and so on)

the DNC's Big Tent Unity is expanding. the initial aug. 11 list of speakers at the virutal convention was about 17, it's grown to 37 or so; it's hard to count in this tweet:

'Former Republican Ohio Gov. John Kasich defended his decision to speak at the upcoming Democratic National Convention in support of presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden', aug. 12, msn.com

but the HUGE news is: according to business insider, AOC was allotted 60 seconds to speak (sadly, BI is behind a paywall for me, but she apparently believes it), and had tweeted this poem:

'Life Is Just a Minute' by Benjamin E. Mays.

'I only have a minute. Sixty seconds in it. Forced upon me, I did not choose it, But I know that I must use it. Give account if I abuse it. Suffer, if I lose it. Only a tiny little minute, But eternity is in it.'

The poem, she noted, was recited by the late Elijah Cummings, representative for Maryland.

but her homies have already created a hashtag: #LetHerSpeak

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@wendy davis opening Q is Yes, of course any pol would want the job of VP for Biden. He figures to barely make it to the end of his first term, thus a handoff is likely to occur to the VP and she will be sitting pretty to become the first woman P in herstory.

But Tulsi was about as likely for Biden as Chér. I don't know if she's quite yet officially persona non gratin in the Dem Party, but at least something akin to treading water outside the boat, without a surfboard.

As for the new list of D speakers: I'm sure like many here you jumped out of your seat in excited anticipation to hear that Doug Jones will be speaking on Mon, then John Kerry on Tues, and then Chris Coons to complete the trifecta of electrifying speakers on Thurs. Please advise on ways for me to stay calm until then.

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Women voters

and

Black voters

Nothing more than that.

(I heard that Willie Brown told Kamala not to accept.)

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@Pluto's Republic
If you ever say anything negative about Kamala or her politics you are ipso facto deplorable, both racist and sexist.

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@Azazello Indeed!!! I remember over at 'The Other Place' mentioning that Harris had gone crawling to the Hamptons to kiss Her Heinous's ring, and the rings of her donors (I said it a bit more politely of course), and some KOS SJW told me off in no uncertain terms!!!! THIS (he said) was the kind of sniping that gave us Trump; and, further, "If you're criticizing Kamala, the problem is YOU!!" lol Clearly this was (as are all mod-dem supporters??) someone who had great health care, owned their home, had no kids or kids through college, no college debt, smooth sailing into retirement-- in other words, really needed nothing from the government, and for whom choosing a president was like choosing wallpaper for the upstairs powder room: go fashionable and with what's in vogue; and I should add CARED NOTHING FOR THOSE FELLOW CITIZENS LIVING WITHOUT THESE THINGS. It's really the height of privilege when one thinks about it.

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Dems are always portraying themselves as "fighters". (Remember "when I say Hillary, you say fighter"?) They're always fighting for this or fighting for that.
What does this even mean ?

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@Azazello "Democrats - pacifists in the fight to pull their heads out of their asses since 1945."

Dammit! Where's my eyeroll emoticon?

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Feel free to borrow it.

Centrists love the Lincoln Project because they post videos that are mean to Trump. They want Biden to win because he has a better chance of starting a new war. Say what you will of what Trump is allowing the military to do, and it is bad, but he hasn’t started any new wars. Yet.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

@snoopydawg Yeah the email from the Lincoln Project got unsubscribed only a few minutes slower than anything with Tea Party, Patriot blah-blah-blah, I/We/Dumbass needs your help does. I had to at least look. I will give it to them though. They fucked off as requested. That’s rare.

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@Azazello

When you say Hillary, I say fight her.

Ha. Good slogan!

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@Azazello

Dems are always portraying themselves as "fighters". They're always fighting for this or fighting for that. What does this even mean ?

It means they are giving the appearance of giving a shit. Without any real desire for any actual positive outcomes. That is all.

Wink

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@dystopian
is Medicare-for-All.

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so exactly just what does she bring in that will get voters to vote democrat this time? Nada according to Kyrstal.

A bridge to Mayo Pete? Interesting, but you know Pete had to get something big in order to drop out when he was beating Biden big time and close to Bernie at the time.


"Stuff an insurgent left back down for years."

Bingo. Even Kos said that was a plus in picking her. Keeps the left from gaining anything in the DP. But then ole kos it also keeps those people from voting for this ticket. 51% of Bernie supporters will not vote for Biden. Be interesting to do the poll again and see if the numbers have changed.

This selection is to protect Obama's legacy. I ask what legacy? He's the second coming of Hoover and his tenure led directly to Trump's win. Guess what Obama? You may have just guaranteed him another term. This is your legacy dude and it's time you faced it.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

@snoopydawg
Obama is running for his third term. All Trump has to do is pull out the playbook from 2016. There is a reason that Obama/Clinton could not beat Trump. Trump has already started repeating that Obama gave all of our jobs and technology to China and that Biden will do the same. It will stick. Trump will paint a picture of doom and gloom if Biden is elected. How will Biden negotiate with Xi or President Putin or Erdogan or even Macron. Could Harris? OK, you can stop laughing now. The answer is that they will hide out in the White House. These are not serious world-class people. And why would anyone think that a third Obama term will do anything better than the first two? Can you imagine an Obama administration run by faceless bureaucrats? This is a train wreck.

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@The Wizard

He could tell McConnell and Graham to get behind more economic support for workers or he’d make sure that they lose their elections. Drop his dreams of lowering payroll taxes and get some real support for us by tying them to the health of the country’s economy and for more jobs not to be lost.

But wasn’t Biden very involved in getting NAFTA passed? I read yesterday that almost 100,000 jobs have been lost to China since it was passed. Add in the TPP that Obama wanted passed and describe how bad it would have been and people will run from Biden. Biden’s history makes him a bad candidate to begin with. Dumb democrats. Or maybe not..

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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@snoopydawg

again as it makes it more likely for him to avoid prison. And I think the power elite of the DNC enjoy our salty tears and misery. IMO they want us so cowed that we would eat an actual bowl of shit with shit sandwiches on the side. We aren’t being nearly subservient enough. We think we have opinions independent of theirs.

BTW loved your cartoon!

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

@Lily O Lady Not trying to be snarky, but they have thrown everything at him up to and including impeachment. What else do they have left? Also, with Nancy “Dry Powder” Pelosi around, who’s going to lead the charge?

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@Dr. John Carpenter

millionaires’ and billionaires’ money. Trump has done a lot of good for TPTB, but he does makes them look bad. He crudely displays the power of wealth. He makes the GOP look bad. Crass. Foolish. Dishonest.

They might like to see him go down after he leaves office. They have already hinted that they might use tax evasion to get him. It probably adds some reality to his persecution complex.

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

@Lily O Lady I'd put my money on "moving forward" and "trying to restore the country" and all that rot though. Wink

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg Nobody seems to remember Biden as VP (or before); it's like he just suddenly materialized out of nowhere this year. Nobody remembers all the bad shit that W did, just that he's a normal guy who makes paintings now. We're already being gaslit into believing the $600/week unemployment wasn't meant to keep people at home safe. Crazy pills!! Wacko

I don't remember which other comment I was going to reply to, so I'll just put it here: I saw a comment on FB today about how voting 3rd party isn't the way to get rid of the 2-party system. WHAAAAAAT??? Wacko Also, voting for Biden is voting for REAL change! Yeah, the change that we were promised 12 years ago? We sure got change, just none of the good kind. The crap people are saying to defend this guy gets crazier every day.

You guys might appreciate this song; this guy is great:

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@Daenerys

has been for us? People over yonder have a running series for all the good things Biden is going to do for us during his first 100 days. He will do more and better things than FDR did. Good grief how can anyone believe that? They are totally whitewashing his history. I call it pulling a Warren. Remember when the bankruptcy bill was passed and people there complained about it? Or many of his other bills? But now it’s like he never did anything bad. Or "he wasn’t my first choice or 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th, but he’s exactly who we need now." P-U!

Speaking of W. He’s doing a book on his paintings of immigrants. People have been having fun with that.

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Funny video!

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

@snoopydawg The most frustrating thing going on right now is the amount of fantasy among Biden supporters.

People over yonder have a running series for all the good things Biden is going to do for us during his first 100 days. He will do more and better things than FDR did. Good grief how can anyone believe that?

Biden isn't promising anything aside from vetoing M4A and trillions thrown at "green jobs" with no more details than that. Or and more money for cops. And we have plenty of past history of Biden being on the wrong side of everything, which he's testily defended and doubled down on on the rare instances he's called out on it.

This is how I felt in the run up to Obama with the addition of knowing I was right then and the frustration of seeing those who were wrong just shrugged and kept telling us to vote blue no matter who. And, of course, knowing that Trump is Obama's legacy. Sigh.

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@Dr. John Carpenter

at the bottom of this one there is a full list of what he will do in his first 100 days.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/13/1966866/-Biden-has-an-expansi...

The GOP spent the 1st 100 days of Trump rolling back Obama's last minute out the door regulations that made it look like he was at last being progressive. But many of them weren't to go into effect for many months and in some cases years. People were focusing on Trump's words and deeds to and not paying attention to what was actually happening in DC and of course dems never said a word about it. I did, but people didn't seem to want to pay attention. The shining object was more fun.

Biden isn't promising anything aside from vetoing M4A

I posted a tweet in the evening blues last night where a journalist asked Biden if he would still veto it if congress passed it. "They will never pass it and look other countries have single payer and they still had problems with COVID." No shit Joe. But just having MFA would not keep the virus from spreading and you know that. What it would do is keep people from being saddled with massive medical debt.


And we have plenty of past history of Biden being on the wrong side of everything, which he's testily defended and doubled down on on the rare instances he's called out on it.

This is what Bernie was running on rolling back. This is why Warren first went to congress and what she was initially running on. I didn't finish my thought above about how Warren and others were very upset with the bankruptcy bill, but are now pretending like it never bothered them as they whitewash Biden's legacy. Warren especially when she wholeheartedly endorsed him. As usually it is the effing hypocrisy that drives me nuts.

Lots of people were warning us that Obama wasn't what he pretended he was. I didn't listen and I think it was because after surviving the Bush years I so wanted someone to come in and reverse what he did. Obama vaguely promised to do that. We know how that went. So what will Biden/Harris do about Trump's tax cuts? His assault on the post office? His deregulations across all industries? .....? I am going with them not really doing anything to keep the country out of the spiral it is in. How about the eviction crisis that will be exploding just as they take office if they win? Well we saw how Biden and MyBoss handled that last time we were faced with it.

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@Dr. John Carpenter

too. Here is the ad Trump dropped after Biden picked Harris:

This is just dumb from my point of view. Trump should instead focus on Biden's bad policies and show why this country is where it is. Same with Harris' record as AG in CA. Explain how she kept people from leaving prison just so that the state could use them as low paid/slave labor. Or kept the guy on death row after new evidence came out. Stick with the facts and don't make crap up. But then do either campaigns actually want to win? Dems would be fine with another 4 years of Trump. Destroying Bernie proved that.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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@Daenerys

If they did, they would realize that they already voted for Biden twice, and it didn't do the country any discernible good. In fact, after two Biden elections, the country turned to Trump (though that was obviously not only his and Obama's fault; Hillary 2016 was mind-bogglingly terrible; at one point I thought they were straight-up trying to lose.)

I guess you could make the argument that the problem was that Biden wasn't president, but at that point you're arguing that Obama was the problem, and if only we had Joe at the helm everything would have been jim-dandy, and I don't know anybody who would argue that.

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Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
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@snoopydawg

the "president wildly mismanaging an epidemic so that hundreds of thousands of people die" thing.

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I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here! Wacko

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@Daenerys

Nailed it. It's also showing how much a banana republic this country is. That we have the choice between 2 men accused of rape and both in their 70's and all the other baggage that they carry we have become a laughing stock for the world. Well after our bogus primary we already passed over that bridge. Okay we did that long ago.

Good to see you again.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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@snoopydawg Countries shouldn't be run by a bunch of out of touch old people imo.
I'm just so tired and angry.

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@Daenerys I can't ever remember her talking politics, but once. I knew she was a republican, but that's all I know.

However, 2000, McCain v. Obama. The conversation went like this:

Her: I can't vote for McCain.
Me: Oh? Why's that?
Her: He's too old.
Me: But he's seven years younger than you.
Her: I know, but people our age have had our time. It's time for someone younger.

I wonder what she'd have to say about the current situation with two presidential candidates even older than McCain was, one noticeably sundowning.

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@Dr. John Carpenter Republicans weren't always such belligerent assholes.

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@Daenerys She thought it was pretty cool she'd lived to see the first black president. From a Republican born in the 20s who grew up and stayed in a one-horse town which had zero black people or diversity I ever remember, I always though that was kind of a solid measure of her character.

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The only way Joe Biden is “going to be like FDR” is that he will die in office and leave a shitty vice president as a replacement.

She's black and she's a woman. WhooHoo!
She has dark skin and a vagina what more could you want?
Policy? What is policy?

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@gjohnsit @gjohnsit Don't forget her Jewish husband. AIPAC is probably happy. Her stepkids call her Momela, which is usually a term of endearment, but who knows if this applies here. A virtual one woman UN.

So what if she failed to win even a single delegate vote? \s

Mayo and Klob and even Liz got a few delegate votes.

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NYCVG

@NYCVG I've heard, first Asian American. Oh, if only she was an Iraq war vet (purple heart), things would be perfect.

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Kamala certainly did not generate any support in any minority communities. Maybe she will tour the country on a law-n-order traveling circus. Which means throwing BLM under the bus. Which is what the democratic establishment does. They threw Bernie and his supporters under the bus. Violently put down OWS. Is a white counter reaction brewing over the rioting and looting that occurred?

What worries me is if she becomes president. I think she was very strong sadistic streak which will work against her in international relations. I fully expect some major war under Biden or Harris including a hot war with Russia.

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@MrWebster

with Russia because she wanted a no fly zone over Syria. And that is a lot of why democrats have been pushing Russia Gate. Think many democrat voters wouldn't be on board with our punishing Putin? Obama had already turned lots of democrats into being pro war after they spent 8 years bitching about W and his wars.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

Anja Geitz's picture

For whatever reason, the videos in your essay are not working for me, but the “Rising” video you put in one of your comments did.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz

using a different browser, see if that takes care of it.

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part of her character in her is that she is black and a woman and wants to prove she is tougher than any white male cop. .... says me and Jimmy Dore has a lot more to say. Dore also brings in Max Blumenthal.

The clips of her talking in Jimmy's video made my hair stand up.

a child without an education is tantamount to a crime

Disgusting, arrogant and sadistic. O wow, never Biden, that is for sure.

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“Trauma is not what happens to you.
Trauma is what happens inside you,
as a result of what happens to you.”
— Dr. Gabor Maté

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@mimi
-- an essential sign of care and hard work

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To me, she brings an even better reason not to vote for it.

I'm not impressed with the completely transparent effort to elevate her to the presidency whenever Uncle Tapioca inevitably keels over, if he should somehow win the general. They didn't even bother to ratfuck her in. She couldn't come anywhere close to winning any primaries on her own, so to simply hand her the presidency on a silver platter is pretty offensive.

Par for the course for the dems, but offensive nonetheless.

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

Here's the new leader emerging as Biden demexits himself!
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/politics/joe-biden-kamala-harris-vp/index...

Lol

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"When will our conscience's grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it?" Eleanor Roosevelt

"The secret of change is to focus all your energy, not on fighting the old, but on building the new." Socrates (469-399 BC)

@Raggedy Ann umm...did she read her own article because that’s not the case she made. To summarize what she wrote: Kamala is a safe, predictable choice who performs then needed task of making people forget about Biden. That doesn’t sound like a confident pick to me.

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The only way Joe Biden is “going to be like FDR” is that he will die in office and leave a shitty vice president as a replacement.

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@Raggedy Ann

She was the best pick.

* She's been vetted on the national stage due to her own 2020 bid.

Sure she was vetted by the public and look at how they rejected her. This is not a strong point duffasses.

* She emerged as an outspoken voice on race -- and the need for police reform -- following the death of George Floyd in May and the subsequent protests it sparked around the country

Actions speak louder than words.

What that all means is that Biden wants the race to be about him as little as possible. He doesn't want to turn this into 2016 all over again, in which Hillary Clinton was forced by Trump to play defense over her time (and emails) at the State Department. He doesn't want the race to turn into a war of words or a battle to see who can sink lower in terms of personal attacks.

Yeah good luck with that. This is about Biden’s history for most people and Harris just highlights it.

Harris, by contrast, had no obvious weakness that the Trump campaign would exploit.

Wanna bet?

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

usefewersyllables's picture

@snoopydawg

about this

Wanna bet?

is that that chipotle-lime butter recipe I mentioned yesterday is absolutely dynamite when melted and poured over popcorn. We're gonna need a bigger bowl...

This is going to be engrossing to watch, very much like the old staged headon collisions of steam locomotives. Slightly sad, because of the senseless waste of otherwise perfectly good machinery, but engrossing just the same. Just wait for that grinding crash and the explosive release of steam, and the occasional grievous injury among the close-in bystanders...

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

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@usefewersyllables  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_at_Crush

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... is another good reason not to vote for Biden. If I wasn't almost there after the Tara Reade allegations, this move is enough to push me over the edge. Other than the excellent points raised by Tulsi in the 45 seconds of allotted debate time (by way of comparison, they let Kamala go almost two minutes over the time limit with her "and that little girl was me" attack on Biden whom she now seems willing to suck up to), consider this:

1. She refused to take actions vs the Catholic Church for their long-standing cover up of numerous instances of child abuse by priests in CA, an action that is now being belatedly undertaken by her successor as CA AG.
2. She accepted a plea deal with no jail time for the Dem Mayor of San Diego, "Filthy Filner," then went after Acosta who actually got jail time in his plea deal with Epstein in FL.
3. She went after Brett Kavanaugh and accepted Blasey-Ford's account without alot of corroboration but turned a deaf ear to Tara Reade's allegations when Read had like eight or nine corroborating witnesses or evidence (like the Larry King tape and her ex-husband's lawsuit).

She's the ultimate phony political animal. If she were an animal, she'd be a chameleon, the animal that changes its spots with the surroundings. She was probably my most hated candidate in the primaries (oh, right, she didn't make it to the actual voting), along with Bootyjudge. If she were a movie character, she'd be the Wicked Witch of the West from the Wizard of Oz.

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@JCWeb

will exploit. And her hypocrisy.

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Trump has so much material to work with.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

@snoopydawg Trump making the same point I did up-thread.

And we aren't wrong.

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NYCVG

is the safe, traditional, 3rd way democrat ready step on the left, stop universal health care and make sure Wall St. is safe and secure. Most of all to attract the moderate republicans and screw the idealistic and righteous youth.

Please, shoot me.

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snoopydawg's picture

You know Trump has this waiting in the wings.

Good luck, Joe. So much for 3rd time’s the charm.

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

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"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone

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@WoodsDweller

How many times has Nate been right lately?

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

@snoopydawg but the back of an envelope worked just fine for me.

Wildly off the mark in '16; whereas, my envelope only had Trump one state short.

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you purist critics! 'MSNBC accused of cropping image of Biden calling Kamala to remove script he was reading'12 Aug, 2020, RT/com

“I’ve decided I would like you to join this effort to win back the soul of our country and be our nation’s next vice president,” the visible portion of the document reads. “I think you are entitled to know why I chose you. There are three reasons.”

Come on man! @seanmdav

I think his phone is upside down
3:37 PM · Aug 11, 2020·Twitter Web App

OTOH, maybe some disaffected republicans will vote for her as their new Black-East Indian Law and Order candidate.

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@wendy davis

I think his phone is upside down

It is upside down!

If the state of Delaware hasn't confiscated his drivers license, it's high time to do it before he hurts some innocent people.

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Aug. 12 'Biden picks former law-and-order prosecutor Kamala Harris to be his Democratic running mate (one brief excerpt)

Biden has a 48-year political career in which he has been identified primarily with intensified police repression at home and the ferocious defense of the interests of American imperialism abroad. The 77-year-old candidate will now have a 55-year-old running mate with her own right-wing credentials: as a law-and-order prosecutor and attorney general in California, and, since coming to Washington in 2016, an advocate and defender of the military-intelligence apparatus.

this old dylan cover came on my realplayer, and it seemed just about right for their anthem:.

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@wendy davis Thanks for this song. It's my favorite Dylan one and the one i think the Nobel Committee might have considered when they awarded him the prize.

The Byrds rendition is lighter without Dylan's pain, but the words still knock me out.

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NYCVG

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She was a hopeless loser in the primaries, but suddenly she's the saviour of The Republic, according to mainstream 'liberal' sources.

The Guardian is positively orgasmic about her.

Sigh.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

snoopydawg's picture

@Bollox Ref

that has divided the country. I don’t know why people think that’s going to happen. After all Obama was president for 8 years and the rift got bigger. Then Trump blew it wide open. But Kamala is special. Right?

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“You know me. Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters? Really?” - Joe Biden 8/31/2020

WoodsDweller's picture

@snoopydawg
or rather "Hope For Change". People are just projecting their fantasies onto whoever ends up on the ticket.
When someone tells you, or the donors, that "Nothing will fundamentally change", you should believe him.

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"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone

Over half of likely voters don’t believe Joe Biden will finish first term: poll

The poll, released Monday by Rasmussen Reports, found that 59 percent of likely voters thought it was probable that Biden’s running mate would become president over the course of the four-year span.
...
Divided up by party, even 49 percent of likely Democratic voters said they believed Biden’s veep would take over the job.
Seventy-three percent of Republicans and 57 percent of non-party-affiliated likely voters also said they did not believe Biden would be able to last the entirety of his term.

Remember the PUMAs (party unity my ass)? They were staunch Hillaryites. and ultimately weren't much of a factor. However, embedded in their complaint was one from the suffragettes; women take a back seat to black men.

2016 -- throughout the campaign we heard over and over again from women that they just wanted to elect a woman POTUS (regardless of any other factor). And yet, as a percentage of the electorate, the women's vote declined from 53% in '08 to 52% in '16 and Obama received 56% of the women's vote and Clinton only received 54%. White vote - Obama 43% and Clinton 37%, and contrary to HRC's whining about AA not showing up, the white vote was 74% in '08 and only 70% in '16.

Now the 'pink pussy hats' have another opportunity to elect the first female POTUS. But will they?

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Shahryar's picture

what did we expect?

Biden's the guy they put out front to stop Bernie and they weren't about to pick someone for Joe who'd be anywhere close to the left.

Having said that, Joe is better than Hillary (because she's so bad) and Harris is better than Kaine (because he's a zero and was chosen, I believe, so as not to distract from Her).

I'll be shocked if Trump wins an actual, fair election. Trump could win....if he decided to do some good things but he won't. He's locked into his cruelty.

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@Shahryar if any of them actually cared about winning, they'd be falling all over themselves to pass SOME kind of aid for the people. UBI, health care, rent/mortgage freeze, ANYTHING. Doesn't even matter who at this point, if they did they'd win for many years. But it's not about winning.

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This shit is bananas.

@Daenerys have Trump, Mitch and 99% of the Trump Party in Congress cared about the people? They got what they wanted in that stimulus bill passed back in March -- that is, they took care of their corporate allies and masters, while bamboozling naive and stupid D leaders into thinking there would be an immediate follow up bill to correct glaring people-oriented omissions in the first bill.

Nancy and Chuck should have been called out by their respective caucuses, lined up against the wall, and ... politically executed with a vote to oust both for their incompetence.

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travelerxxx's picture

@wokkamile

Nancy and Chuck should have been called out by their respective caucuses, lined up against the wall, and ... politically executed with a vote to oust both for their incompetence.

Well, yes. Unless, of course, they're doing exactly what they're paid to do. In which case, they're totally competent.

Gawd, is it ever sickening to see...

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@travelerxxx was a feisty and charismatic AOC or approximate progressive opponent for her in SF, but instead we got a guy plagued by personal scandal and posing absolutely no threat to Nancy's re-elect chances. She can just phone this one in and sit at home enjoying her $14 gelato pints taken from her $25,000 SubZero fridge.

Afaik, she has never had a serious, viable progressive challenger. And it's also possible a majority of her constituents are satisfied with her representation.

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travelerxxx's picture

@wokkamile

And it's also possible a majority of her constituents are satisfied with her representation.

Something I don't discount whatsoever. Likely, in fact.

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@Shahryar

I'll be shocked if Trump wins an actual, fair election.

The only fairness is what tptb declare.
Will you openly admit that none of the two current parties plays fair?
When you do, you've admitted to the shithole of the two party system.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.