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10/19 Open Thread - Rainforest Day

Amazon Rainforest Journey



~~ Amazon Rainforest Journey

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is what is wrong with the world today! I searched a picture sharing site for "Rainforest" and THAT came up as responsive. Worse yet, a large number of people "faved" it. We are so self centered, so completely all about ourselves, our doings, our possessions and our style that we can't see the forest or the trees! I wonder if anybody on that "journey" actually set foot in so much as the outer margins of the forest, a meter off of the paved pathway or stopped to examine a bug, flower or leaf. The rainforests drive our ecosystem, and like it, they are dying, but to far, far too many they are but a photo op, a place to display goods and acquisitions and perhaps take some selfies. Hell, this is closer to being a rainforest than that is, at least it is outdoors, even if it is in a desert.

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Of course, that could well be where we are heading, especially with respect to that very amazon rainforest:

Amazon near tipping point of switching from rainforest to savannah – studyhttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/oct/05/amazon-near-tipping-...

/rant off

NB - I considered going with Multicultural Diversity Day, but there is something horribly wrong linguistically there. I mean, as opposed to what? Multicultural uniformity? Multicultural homogeneity? It just doesn't work.

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On this day in history:

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202 BC – The Romans beat Hannible at the Battle of Zama ending the Second Punic War

439 – The Vandals took Carthage

1386 – The Universität Heidelberg held its first lecture

1469 – Ferdinand II of Aragon married Isabella I of Castile, leading to the unification of Spain, The Spanish Inquisition, Columbus' voyages, and a host of other horrors.

1781 – The siege of Yorktown came to an end.

1789 – John Jay was sworn in as the first Chief Justice of the United States.

1812 – Napoleon began his retreat from Moscow.

1900 – Max Planck discovered Planck's law of black-body radiation.

1912 – Italy took what is now Libya from the Ottoman Empire.

1935 – The League of Nations placed economic sanctions on Italy for its invasion of Ethiopia.

1943 – Streptomycin was isolated by researchers at Rutgers University.

1944 – A coup was launched against Juan Federico Ponce Vaides, beginning the ten-year Guatemalan Revolution. This led to a brief period of democracy which, of course, forced the US to stage a coup against it because there is nothing the US hates more than actual democracy abroad.
1960 – The US imposed a near-total trade embargo against Cuba.

1973 – Nixon rejected a Court decision requiring him to turn over the Watergate tapes.

1987 – The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell by 22% (But the real economy kept on going, hmmmmm, why is it nobody ever sees the lack of any linkage here?)

1987 – The United States Navy attacked two Iranian oil platforms in the Persian Gulf.

2005 – Our one-time great buddy Saddam Hussein went on trial in Baghdad for crimes against humanity, some of which we enabled.

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Some people who were born on this day:

“Rise and demand; you are a burning flame.

You are sure to conquer there where the final horizon

Becomes a drop of blood, a drop of life,

Where you will carry the universe on your shoulders,

Where the universe will bear your hope.”



~~ Miguel Angel Asturias


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879 – Yingtian, empress of the Khitan Liao Dynasty about which most us were taught absolutely nothing, like where, when, or what it was

1688 – William Cheselden, surgeon and anatomist

1784 – Leigh Hunt, poet and critic

1810 – Cassius Marcellus Clay, journalist, lawyer, and diplomat

1850 – Annie Smith Peck, mountaineer and academic

1858 – George Albert Boulenger, zoologist and botanist

1868 – Bertha Knight Landes, academic and politician

1879 – Emma Bell Miles, writer, poet, and artist

1882 – Umberto Boccioni, painter and sculptor

1895 – Lewis Mumford, historian, sociologist, and philosopher

1899 – Miguel Ángel Asturias, journalist, author, and poet

1907 – Roger Wolfe Kahn, bandleader and composer

1909 – Marguerite Perey, physicist and academic

1910 – Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, astrophysicist, astronomer, and mathematician

1910 – Paul Robert, lexicographer and publisher

1916 – Jean Dausset, immunologist and academic

1916 – Emil Gilels, pianist

1916 – Minoru Yasui, soldier, lawyer, and activist

1917 – Sharadchandra Shankar Shrikhande, mathematician

1917 – Walter Munk, oceanographer, author, and academic

1922 – Jack Anderson, journalist and author

1926 – Arne Bendiksen, singer, songwriter, and producer

1926 – Joel Feinberg, philosopher and academic

1927 – Pierre Alechinsky, painter and illustrator

1931 – John le Carré, spook and author

1934 – Dave Guard, folk music singer, songwriter, arranger, and musician

1936 – James Bevel, civil rights activist and minister

1940 – Larry Chance, singer and songwriter

1944 – George McCrae, singer

1944 – Peter Tosh, singer, songwriter, and guitarist

1945 – Divine, Divine

1945 – Gloria Jones, singer and songwriter

1945 – John Lithgow, John Whorfin, actor

1945 – Jeannie C. Riley, singer

1946 – Keith Reid, songwriter and lyricist
1948 – Patrick Simmons, singer, songwriter ,and guitarist

1951 – Demetrios Christodoulou, mathematician and physicist

1957 – Dorinda Clark-Cole, singer, songwriter, and pianist

1957 – Karl Wallinger, singer, songwriter, keyboard player, and producer

1960 – Ayuo Takahashi, singer and songwriter

1960 – Dan Woodgate, musician, songwriter, composer, and record producer

1962 – Bendik Hofseth, saxophonist and composer

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Some people who died on this day:

When a great genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.



~~ Johnathan Swift


1745 – Jonathan Swift, satirist and essayist

1897 – George Pullman, engineer and businessman

1937 – Ernest Rutherford, physicist and chemist

1943 – Camille Claudel, sculptor and illustrator

1944 – Dénes Konig, mathematician

1945 – N. C. Wyeth, painter and illustrator

1950 – Edna St. Vincent Millay, poet and playwright

1956 – Isham Jones, saxophonist, songwriter, and bandleader

1988 – Son House, singer and guitarist

1995 – Don Cherry, trumpet player

1997 – Glen Buxton, guitarist and songwriter

2005 – Ryan Dallas Cook, trombonist

2007 – Winifred Asprey, mathematician and computer scientist

2013 – John Bergamo, drummer and composer

2013 – Ronald Shannon Jackson, drummer and composer

2014 – John Holt, singer and songwriter

2014 – Raphael Ravenscroft, saxophonist and composer

2016 – Phil Chess, record producer. In its heyday, Chess Records had a huge stable of top notch musicians such that any performer could, if they got lucky, have a backing band including folks like Willie Dixon, Otis Spann, Muddy Waters, Jimmy Rogers, Little Walter and the like. It was really a place like no other.

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Some Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:

Rainforest Day

Multicultural Diversity Day

LGBT Center Awareness Day



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Today's Tunes


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MUSIC GOES HERE; FIRST ARTIST

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Rainforest Day

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Multicultural Diversity Day

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Dave Guard


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Larry Chance (Philly doo wop)


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George McCrae


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Peter Tosh


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Keith Reid


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Patrick Simmons


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Isham Jones


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Son House


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John Holt


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Phil Chess



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Image is public domain

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Ok, it's an open thread, so it's up to you folks now. What's on your mind?

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Cross posted from http://caucus99percent.com

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Open Thread, Rainforest Day, Max Planck, streptomycin, Johnathan Swift, Peter Tosh, Son House, Phil Chess

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QMS's picture

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as you astutely pointed out, is the experiential disconnect growing by living
in this digital universe. If one wants to actually wants to experience the rain
forest, it would require physical travel and all that entails.
Perhaps understanding something without touching anything beyond a
digital device stands-in now for felt appreciation? Dunno.
Doesn't leave the same impression to my mind.

This is funny from the Onion --

Protestors Criticized For Looting Businesses Without Forming Private Equity Firm First

https://theonion.com/protestors-criticized-for-looting-businesses-withou...

Anyway, thanks for kick-starting the week. Your searches of history are amazing.

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@QMS
One must admit that to be a truly fetching scarf, and I'm sure that the wearer took grat pains with her wardrobe selection for that day's "adventure".

be well and have a good one

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Interesting story about the "rainforest" picture. Duck duck delivers a variety of shots like this one:
Screenshot 2026-10-19 at 07-45-06 rainforest at DuckDuckGo.png
I don't see how your lede photo has anything to do with "rainforest". Interesting.

None the less, thanks for the OT and all the music!

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@Lookout

caption "Amazon Rainforest Journey", which I suspect was a high end river cruise for which her garb was de rigeur, especially during cocktails or lunch. The fact that the poster gave it that caption is indicative of exactly what the wearer and an entire class of persons expected to get out of said journey and in fact the entirety of what they did get out of it.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

A left wing President was in office the first trip to the Amazon Rainforest. The guide gave us a lecture on the strict control of logging in Ecuador. A right wing President held the office on my second trip. The guide gave a lecture on how the lumber business was more important for the economy than having some rainforest.
A third trip might be a "nothing to see here" event.
Thanks, el! Interesting OT, as always, friend!

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@on the cusp

the sacred trinity of logging, mining and cattle I suspect. Such is life.

be well and have a good one

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Priest killed by falling crucifix during Mass.

In the Our Lady of Perpetual Help Church, Ecuador.
https://rt-english.com/news/647383-crucifix-kills-priest-equador/
Talk about dying for your faith.

In other news - U.S. President Donald Trump’s approval rating has fallen to a new low of 33%
Winning!
https://www.telesurenglish.net/trump-approval-falls-to-new-low-of-33-two...

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@QMS

Perhaps there is some sort of message about livestreaming the sacrament?

Guayaquil is where we cought a flight to the Galapagos, maybe the principal airport for such flights. It is also the place from whence my favorite brand of Yerba Mate' comes, harvested, packed and shipped by an indigenous cooperative.

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris
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have little idea what a sacrament actually is
but it rhymes with sacrifice which happens to
coincide with the unfortunate episode. Makes
one wonder. The lord works in mysterious ways.
Or so I've heard.

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@QMS

to that actual tragedy, there's already been a very funny and cynical deepfake published on Xitter:

https://x.com/PaulleyTicks/status/2111984533604290796/video/1

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@usefewersyllables

there are many creative posters there. Have yet to fathom
access to that platform. Prolly entails sharing personal data
which I try to minimize. Data harvesters are rampant. That's
why I don't Google, Facebook, What's App or many others.
May miss out on a portion of available info, but putting on the
brakes sometimes makes sense.

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@QMS

...I consider Donald Trump to be an active form of Divine Retribution. Hence all the paintings of Trump depicted as an angel — or as the embodiment of Jesus.

It certainly seems to be playing out that way.

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sorting through 8 totes and boxes, all things from my office kitchen. I picked out several pots and pans I can use, kept a few knives, a spatula, some coffee cups, but the rest of the kitchen ware will be donated to the local Senior Citizens Resale Shop.
I couldn't think of any friend who might need to stock up their RV or deer camp cabin, so the Seniors can make bank.
I loaded it up in the truck, but hope the guy who volunteers there can unload it for me. Cast iron pots are heavy!
Graham's legacy sanctions law against Russia didn't hold up very long. I can't figure out why Democrats are uniformly pro Ukie Neo Nazis, but anti Iran conflict.
It is interesting in a superficial way. They haven't blocked the bill merging our military surveillance with Israel's, suggesting everyone in Washington are Israel Firsters.
Elections matter! Srsly!

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@on the cusp

that there are any Nazis, Neo or otherwise, in Ukraine. (For that matter the Reps don't talk about it much either.) There's a ginormous legacy of Russia-hate that I don't think we'll see much if any abatement of in the next century or two. And how much of it is actually lust for Russia's untapped resources?

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@TheOtherMaven @TheOtherMaven @TheOtherMaven being slavish to Israel and hating Russia sort of glosses over the fact that the Bolsheviks were Jews who killed 22 million Russian Christians.
I don't think it is deep denial. It is wanting to steal resources. Where is the Democratic Party rage over the theft of Venezuelan oil or the kidnap and imprisonment of the Maduros?

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@on the cusp

I can't figure out why Democrats are uniformly pro Ukie Neo Nazis, but anti Iran conflict.

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.... is a classic intellectual failure, the root cause of which is gov-media brain-washing.

Those suffering from this disorder are unable to perceive it at all. They are flooded with emotional programming that defies rationality.

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@Pluto's Republic happy? I hear the term Uniparty a lot nowadays. I believe it aptly describes our "two party" system. These people are paid not to think, or say what they think. Not all of them are stupid.

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"The French are going to fail because they have no institutions of dual power!" "Destroying buildings is only going to help LePen!" Sure, fine, dual power is necessary. But, no, something this big hasn't happened before. Odds are, then, that the French, who used to be a well-educated bunch and might still be such a thing now, are somewhere planning systems of dual power, and that y'all New York podcasters have just simply not found it yet. Keep looking.

And, as for the US:

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....about the recent proposed peace summit between China, the US, and Russia to settle the Ukraine Proxy War on Russia. Particularly distressed are the NATO Neocons, who envision themselves as the new global military (spending) force that will soon control the entire world (ie. the Global South) as they enforce the New Imperialist Global Rules. These ongoing panic reactions have been truly revealing.

Putin proposes summit with Trump and Xi to discuss Ukraine deal

Oct 18 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin has proposed a summit next month with US President Donald Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping to negotiate an end to the four-year-old Ukraine conflict that would favour Moscow, the Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday, citing people familiar with the discussions.

The proposed summit comes amid warming ties between Trump and Putin especially after the US President announced a deal to buy Russian diesel and signed an order on Friday waiving key sanctions on Moscow.

Citing a former Russian intelligence officer briefed on the matter, the paper said that Putin's suggestion came in an October 9 telephone call with Trump that also yielded the diesel deal between the two countries.

The White House did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment, while the Kremlin could not be immediately reached outside regular business hours. The Russian and Chinese embassies in Washington did not immediately reply to requests for comment.

The Kremlin has suggested holding the trilateral dialogue on the sidelines of the upcoming Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit, the WSJ report said, citing people familiar with the discussions. That summit is set to take place on November 18 to 19 in Shenzhen.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov confirmed to the Journal that discussions were taking place over a potential meeting.

“There is no clear understanding yet regarding the meeting itself or its potential agenda, although all three parties acknowledge the hypothetical possibility of such a meeting taking place,” he told the Wall Street Journal.

The Kremlin has suggested holding the trilateral dialogue on the sidelines of the upcoming Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit, the WSJ report said, citing people familiar with the discussions. That summit is set to take place on November 18 to 19 in Shenzhen.

There is no clear understanding yet regarding the meeting itself or its potential agenda, although all three parties acknowledge the hypothetical possibility of such a meeting taking place,” he told the Wall Street Journal.

The White House did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment, while the Kremlin could not be immediately reached outside regular business hours.

Trump's diesel deal with Putin and the executive order waiving sanctions on Moscow have drawn criticism from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, who has warned it would embolden Putin and prolong the war.

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy was not invited to the summit.

As a proxy, he has no resources of his own, and he commands no popular support in Ukraine..

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@Pluto's Republic I do not see this as consequential.

1) The West has too much money invested in the ownership of Ukraine and in war against Russia, and so cannot stop because business as usual means paying people off and in shielding bankrupt business ledgers from public exposure. I think this explains why the Trump idea of negotiations is limited to the exxtraction of concessions.

2) Russia is still fighting the Russian Civil War of 1917-1922, albeit on different ideological grounds. The Russians have lost far too many troops (oh, sure, far less than did the Ukrainians, but still...) to settle for a peace that would leave them unsatisfied in any way. Ukraine, after all, is not really a nation, but rather Lenin's attempt to deal with the aftermath of said civil war.

3) The Chinese have no say in any of this.

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a guess about the intent of it I doubt that it is altruistic.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/10/19/elon-musk-spacex-shares-giveaway-kids.html

SpaceX
CEO Elon Musk said Monday that he’ll give every child in the U.S. one of his shares in the company next year.

Musk currently owns about 4.8 billion SpaceX shares, according to an August SEC filing. That figure rises to 6.4 billion when taking into account unvested awards and stock options, representing a 48.4% beneficial stake in the company.

There were 72 million children under 18 in the U.S. as of July 1, 2025, according to official census data.

That would amount to the CEO giving away about $10.5 billion worth of shares, taking into account SpaceX’s closing stock price of $146.03 as of Friday.

However it does seem to match Trump offering bribes, post dated cheque enticements to the rubes in attendance at every campaign stop that he is doing..

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@humphrey throwing all his weight and $ behind Trump. They kissed and made up.

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@humphrey
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he has become more of a liability - snake poison if you will
savvy pols are beginning to sense this. Being an R is bad enough.
Dragging an unpopular prez into the fray only diminishes their chances.

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