Mea Culpa - Bonus OT Material
Submitted by enhydra lutris on Wed, 06/10/2020 - 12:15pm
officebss, who writes both at Flowers for Socrates as wordcloud9 (https://flowersforsocrates.com/2020/06/10/on-this-day-june-10-2020/) and DK as officebss has posted the facts that this is the anniversary of Janice Joplin's first appearance with Big Brother and the Holding Company, in 1966 at the Avalon in San Francisco, as well as the anniversary of Miriam Makeba's return to South Africa in 1990 after 31 years of exile. These events really cannot be allowed to go uncelebrated.
Janice with Big Brother
Mama Africa
pata pata
Khawuleza
Qongqothwane
Malaika
Oxgam
Thulasizwe/I shall be released; with Nina Simone
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Many cheers, el, celebrate ...
imagine this music louder than the shotguns of the police
may be a music revolution on the streets would be a way to shut down all the cops and haters.
in my dreams ...
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Playing now, mimi. :)
good afternoon mimi. Quite a dream, maybe, maybe someday.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Thanks smiley. Here's my favorite version of that song --
awesome bass player
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
thank so much for the memories. you are a treasure, el,
I will miss you a lot one day.
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Thanks for posting this EL
Wasn’t old enough to be a fan of Joplin while she was alive, but I sure loved her music when I came of age. She redefined what it meant to be a female artist in an industry that had pretty specific ideas of what creative expression should look like if you were female. Sure wish Janis knew how amazing she truly was.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Afternoon Anja. Tsk, tsk, you kids. But, you did finally
find out, so nothing really lost.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
great sounds EL!
Thanks for the cheap thrills EL! Sure one could argue her later bands were more polished, but something about Big Brother (Andrew and Gurley?) made them a better match to my ear. Crumb's cover was great too. Always felt like Janis never knew how much she was loved.
Miriam was awesome as well. Blew my mind first time I saw her on Ed Sullivan as a kid. Not familiar with African languages... but I imagine the clicking would be easier to do with a language of the tongue (as latin based) vs. an often guttural one like our Germanic origins. What a beautiful voice she had.
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
Good afternoon dysto. Yeah, Big Brother was a great match, saw
my fair share of their concerts when she was part of the band - not a bad minute.
Wht can one say about Miriam Makeba? I mean shit, Pata Pata became part of the Jazz idiom, it's some kind of standard, she was simply too much.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Ditto
Not being a musician, it's never been clear to me
why neither Big Brother nor her later band wasn't a great fit for Joplin. It wasn't all that apparent in the live concerts with Big Brother, but she dominated on stage and much of that was lost in the Cheap Thrills recording.
All these many years later, it's easier for me to see [video:https://youtu.be/fC2AfPpBOIU] that it was an odd match.
The Typewriter Tape (which iirc did surface before she died) better captures some of what was missing in other recordings. Albeit without her '68-69 electric stage presence (when she was drinking).
Good evening Marie. Well, she clearly thought they needed
replacement, so I guess that's all that matters.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
I could be off...
but I sorta got the sense it was her management that wanted the 'proven pros' over the 'hippies' off the street. More polished, more technical skills perhaps than Big Brother. But it was that rawness, organic earthiness they shared that made it so emotional, with such feeling. And later I think the other bands were more just a backing band for her, ergo interchangable. Whereas early on, she was the singer, not yet the star, and the music makers, the band, Big Brother, was a much bigger presence and force.
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
If the choices are limited to Big Brother
and her later band, I'd go with BB. Helms put them together and they did sort of manage to gel, but Janis needed better musicians that understood and respected her and vice versa. It's interesting that the studio honchos didn't know what to do with her either. Couldn't quite capture the voice in a recording that was heard on stage. Perhaps she was simply too unique.
great post and music, sea otter!
may i add that bonnie pointer crossed to the other side this week at 69?
one of my all-time favorites:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9S5EZgIJck]
Good eveing Wendy. Yes, she was a great one. Out of
Oakland, no less. That's also a really good song. Their version topped the original by a bunch.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --