Tuesday Open Thread ~ Democalypse 2020


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"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!" ~ The Godfather
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Good Morning!

Welcome to Tuesday's Open Thread. It's New Hampshire Primary day, and after Iowa, it's anyone's guess what will actually happen tonight. Following the reports coming out of the DNC since Iowa, I am none too sanguine. No surprise then that the specter of 2016 still creeps around the corners of my mind here in 2020. For those of us who expected our votes to be counted, the image of Hillary Clinton walking onto the stage of Wells Fargo Center in her blinding white pantsuit to accept the nomination for the candidate for the Democratic party was deeply disturbing. A sharp contrast to the image of Bernie Sanders a few days before sitting in the audience with a fresh cut on his upper cheek and an expression on his face that looked like he had turned into stone. Visibly shaken by Bernie's appearance, I told myself I was done. I was done talking about, caring about, and writing about the Machiavellian lengths the power brokers in D.C. will go in pursuit of their self interests. And just as I was beginning to believe that, 2020 rolls around, and I find myself talking about, caring about, and writing about the Machiavellian lengths the power brokers in D.C. will go in pursuit of their self interests.

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So what the hell is wrong with me? Hopefully nothing more then a civic minded streak that's not ready to die quite yet. On top of which, I've decided that as infuriating as this may be, I'll be damned if I'm going to make this easier for those who would like to silence my voice by keeping silent. So, I'm canvassing here in California for Bernie. I am speaking out about the policies I believe in. And I will gladly explain the nature of the corruption perpetrated by DNC every chance I get to those not familiar with how our electoral process actually works. If the power brokers are intent on stealing this election, then I'd rather they be forced out into the open so that everybody can see the rat-fucking.

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Aw, Pete! Say It Ain't So!

PETE BUTTIGIEG TOUTED THREE MAJOR SUPPORTERS OF HIS DOUGLASS PLAN FOR BLACK AMERICA. THEY WERE ALARMED WHEN THEY SAW IT.

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Um, er. Except, they didn't.

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The blowback came immediately. Devine, who has not endorsed a candidate yet in the presidential election, told The Intercept that she did not intend her support for the plan to be read as an endorsement for Buttigieg’s candidacy, and believes the campaign was “intentionally vague” about the way it was presented.

“Clearly from the number of calls I received about my endorsement, I think the way they put it out there wasn’t clear, that it was an endorsement of the plan, and that may have been intentionally vague. I’m political, I know how that works,” she said. “I do think they probably put it out there thinking people wouldn’t read the fine print or wouldn’t look at the details or even contact the people and say, ‘Hey, you’re endorsing Mayor Pete?’”

Asked if she knew if any of the black supporters of the plan were also supporters of Buttigieg, she said she wasn’t sure. “The only ones I really knew were me and Rep. Thigpen,” she said. “I don’t know many — actually, now that I think about it, other than the folks working on Mayor Pete’s campaign, I don’t know of any local elected officials who have endorsed him yet.”

“It was clear to me, or at least I thought I made it clear to them, that I was a strong Bernie Sanders supporter — actually co-chair of the state, and I was not seeking to endorse their candidate or the plan.

Thigpen, meanwhile, has endorsed Sen. Bernie Sanders for president, and was startled when he learned the campaign had not only attached his name to the plan, but also listed him as one of three prominent supporters atop the letter.

“How it was rolled out was not an accurate representation of where I stand,” Thigpen told The Intercept. “I didn’t know about its rolling out. Somebody brought it to my attention, and it was alarming to me, because even though I had had conversations with the campaign, it was clear to me, or at least I thought I made it clear to them, that I was a strong Bernie Sanders supporter — actually co-chair of the state, and I was not seeking to endorse their candidate or the plan. But what I had talked about was potentially giving them a quote of support in continuing the conversation, because I do think it’s a very important conversation.”

Thigpen said he thought rolling out the big list of supporters was intended to show broad support in the black community, despite the reality. The letter was published out of the blue, Thigpen said. “I actually had not circled back to give them a quote, so I was alarmed and very much surprised to see, particularly, the headline as such because I do think it muddies the water, I do think it was a misrepresentation, and it easily could have confused a lot of people as to where I stood. That was, from the very beginning, concerns that I expressed,” he said. Thigpen said he reached out to the Sanders campaign to let them know what had happened, and aides there said they would talk to the Buttigieg campaign.

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Happiness is a Dry Martini

Plan on watching MSM coverage of the New Hampshire Primary tonight? Then maybe you'll need a few stiff drinks to get through anything Chris Matthews says. You're welcome.

Ingredients
2 1/2 ounces gin
1/2 ounce dry vermouth
Garnish: 1 or 3 olives or a lemon twist
Optional: ​1 dash orange or Angostura bitters

Steps to Make It

  • Gather the ingredients.
  • In a mixing glass filled with ice cubes, combine the gin and vermouth, pouring more or less vermouth to your taste.
  • Stir for 30 seconds.
  • Strain into a chilled cocktail glass.
  • Add a dash of orange or Angostura bitters, if desired.
  • Garnish with olives or a lemon twist.
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Raggedy Ann's picture

Snow is on my mind today. It has been snowing since last night and we must have six inches already. I will get to stay home today, hooray! Snow, snow, snow!

Thanks for the martini recipe. I love martini's but don't drink much anymore. My old body doesn't like the recuperation period like it used to. Wink

It will be interesting to see how the dnc moves forward in stopping Bernie. He will prove that he cannot change them from within - a whole new party will need to be created - my guess, anyway. Tonight might be telling, depending on how successfully they can alter the voting machines, but we may have to wait for the theft in Nevada. Shok

In any event, rat-fuckery will take place. They just can't help themselves.

Have a nail-biting day, folks! Pleasantry

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

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@Raggedy Ann

I lived back East, I only benefitted from one snow day in 2009, where even the snowplows in Manhattan couldn't keep up.

I think sledding, snowball fighting, and hot chocolate afterwards are the order of the day for you, my dear.

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Wally's picture

Just sayin' . . .

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Anja Geitz's picture

@Wally

But apparently our incredulity is shared by others.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Not Henry Kissinger's picture

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Wally's picture

This is pretty amazing:

Percentages of Registered Voters by Party (January 2020)

Democrats 27%

Republicans 27%

Independents 45%

According to this most recent poll:
Warren 34% (+5) Trump 29%
Buttigieg 35% (+8) Trump 27%
Bloomberg 39% (+14) Trump 25%
Biden 43% (+14) Trump 29%
Sanders 46% (+18) Trump 28%

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@Wally

Sanders still gets a bigger bounce than he does.

Instead of calling them Bloomberg and Buttigieg perhaps we should just call them "Wall St" and "CIA."

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

And Trump called Bloomberg a racist this morning via twitter while re-tweeting one of the avalanche of anti-Bloomberg videos featuring one of Bloomberg's many racist spiels -- and then deleted it within minutes.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23BloombergIsRacist&src=trend_click

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@Wally

edgarbergen.jpg

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Beavis & Butthead?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

WaterLily's picture

@Anja Geitz The only question is, which one is which?

Superb OT today, Anja. I'm right there with you, much to my own chagrin.

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@WaterLily

Hence the Godfather quote...

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz

not even Pete...

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Ya had to get logical on me?

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@Anja Geitz

It actually came from the fact that I kind of like Beavis and Butthead.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Wally

Where I obseverved that if Democrats were so serious about ousting Trump, you'd think they'd make it easier for independents to vote. Especially here in California. But apparently beating Bernie trumps Trump.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz

Here's something encouraging:

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@Wally

Even the loyal MSNBC viewers can see the cynicism at play. Ha!

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Wally

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Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl

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So what the hell is wrong with me? Hopefully nothing more then a civic minded streak that's not ready to die quite yet.

I simply wish to purge any "civic minded" feeling what so ever. I keep vacillating between wanting to Bern everything down, and cheering Bernie on, even knowing full well he's going to get screwed again, and grampa, is going to be gracious and support what ever dirt bag nominee get's appointed.

Just when you think there's hope, they snatch it from us. Sooner or later, this will result in one of 3 things.
1. Civil War
2. Nuclear Armageddon
3. Climate Death

Revolution Calling!
[video:https://youtu.be/TjjqQmza0Kw]

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C99, my refuge from an insane world. #ForceTheVote

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@RantingRooster

If they rat-fuck the results again. Solidarity, my brother.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@RantingRooster
The oligarchs must feel as if they are in complete control and are unstoppable. This feeling usually precedes the pitchforks and torches. I would prefer a pitchfork please.

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-Greed is not a virtue.
-Socialism: the radical idea of sharing.
-Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962

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Don't let the bastards grind you down.

At least we're not alone.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Smile

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Reminds one of the dance
democalypso
Wink

a style of music originating in the West Indies, marked by lively duple meter, and having lyrics that are often improvised and usually satirize local personalities and events

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@QMS

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Rigged. Apparently the talking heads in the corporate media are not allowed to mention that word. Why not? We live in a free country....um---- don't we? It's just a little ole word with a little ole definition that everybody knows.

To rig: manage or conduct (something) fraudulently so as to produce a result or situation that is advantageous to a particular person.

We pride ourselves on our freedom (fries) and rightly so! It is what makes us so exceptional!! With freedom comes the ability to have transparency in all things including our elections which we pride on being free and fair. So, to prove to the world that we are so free why not have our citizens count the vote with overseers from the UN and around the world. Lets do away with those infernal voting machines and use paper ballots (or something else that we could all agree on). It would silence the criticisms of rigging and we could all feel confident with our much ballyhooed freedom.

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@randtntx

Your critical thinking skills are showing.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@randtntx
You still use a voting machine but it prints the ballot. It can also transmit the totals but the paper ballots are the official results. The electronic results are the unofficial.

Machine readable AND human readable so the count can be audited. No hanging chads, no unaccounted for transmissions.

Might cost slightly more, but for a state like Illinois not as much as a single mile of road.

EDIT:
And OPEN SOURCE CODE. No proprietary programs on obscure ROMS.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

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First, thanks so much for your in the streets work for Bernie, appreciated.

Feeling positive about his candidacy this morning, he's taken hits from the queen, most leading MSM talking heads, the other campaigns and he's still rising in the polls, nationally and in states. And if Warren continues to tank, hopefully Klobuchar, bootleg, Bloomberg and Biden will split the centrist's vote which should in theory give Bernie a hefty plurality of delegates.

Having said that, the unseen is ahead and in our screwed up electoral system, it's anybody's guess, but i'd rather be Bernie than any other candidate today.

Thanks again for this good OT and your dedication. Vive la révolution

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Anja Geitz's picture

@smiley7

Well, I figure in the end, there's more of us then them. We might as well try to use that to our advantage. Beats rolling over dead for those bastards, eh?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Which supposedly came from Churchill:

Obtain a bottle of large-sized olives. Drain the juice.
Fill the olive bottle with Vermouth. Refrigerate the bottle.
Put three fingers of gin or vodka over ice in a silver martini shaker. Shake vigorously until shards of ice permeate the alcohol.
Pour in a chilled Martini glass. Drop in one olive from the jar.

When I'm too lazy to preplan, I'll just swish the vermouth around in the shaker, dump it out, and then continue the instructions. Works best with a good quality gin, ymmv.

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

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@Dr. John Carpenter

not very often anymore.

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Anja Geitz's picture

@Dr. John Carpenter

Fellow crew members like to go who asks me what kind of vermouth I'd like in my Martini. "Surprise me" I tell him. But I sure like that he asks.

Best thing about a martini? The glass. Smile

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Anja Geitz my ex had these gorgeous martini glasses. However, they were very wide and shallow and not easy to drink out of. When we got more on the floors, the furniture, the couch, ourselves, than in our mouths, it was usually time to put the bottles up. Lol

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

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@Dr. John Carpenter

Gets more difficult the more martinis you have. My limit these days is two. Best martini I ever had (and please don't shame me) was a chocolate martini at a trendy bar in Soho. They were like milkshakes and deadly. Apparently I made out with some Wall Street stock broker whose name I couldn't remember when he called me the next day. Oh vey!

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Anja Geitz That sounds like a winner really. Besides, I am really quite equal opportunity when it comes to beer and liquor. I've been lucky enough to imbibe some of the best and some of the worst. Unfortunately somethings, like gin, I know if I go bottom shelf, I'm going to be hating life the next few days after. I just don't have the resilience I used to. Wink

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

WoodsDweller's picture

I was visiting a friend, and he told me we were going to be drinking martinis that evening. "But I don't have any olives" he said, "or any vermouth". "So, we're just doing gin shots then?" "Yup".

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"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone

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@WoodsDweller

Funny Smile

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

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@The Liberal Moonbat

At press time, the Obelisk, which reportedly vaporized Senator Amy Klobuchar, after she denounced the monolith as divisive, immediately surged to a 100% approval rating.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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I mentioned this briefly yesterday, I'll probably post about it regularly.
If Bernie is going to win the nomination he needs to win it on the first ballot. That means he needs 50%+1 pledged delegates from every contest. If he falls short he needs to make that up in a subsequent race.
Wikipedia says that Iowa has 41 pledged delegates and 8 "unpledged" (which I assume means superdelegates). I'm assuming superdelegates are a lost cause, thus Bernie needs to win on the first ballot with a clear majority of pledged delegates.
So Bernie needed 22 delegates from Iowa, and so far (pending recanvasses and such) has 12. So Bernie is minus ten (-10) from Iowa.
New Hampshire offers 24 pledged and 9 unpledged delegates. So Bernie needs to win 13. That's the number I'll be looking for tonight.

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"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone

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@WoodsDweller

In Iowa, didn't they? I mean when you can't explain how delegates are portioned from the popular vote, you really aren't making a case for public trust, are you?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

so is the DNC. What's particularly scary is that by that metric they don't have to cheat much at one time. They just need to keep shaving a little bit here and there, state by state, and keep the trajectory under 50%. I hope their plan goes south and they are forced to overeach so far that the destroy themselves.

@WoodsDweller

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@entrepreneur

Too many things could go wrong for anyone. All we need are a few breaks. A few fucking breaks.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz The DNC and their state primary lackeys are holding things together with paper clips and string right now. That shit can't hold. Something, or someone, is going to give. I'm hoping it's spectacular.

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@entrepreneur

The question is whether they will well and truly destroy the party's reputation this time, or whether they will keep enough people loyal through brandishing the right-wing strongman/boogeyman of the day at them.

As you said about the corporate media, the Democrats do need to retain a modicum of credibility in order to continue to serve a useful function as a tool. On the other hand, as with Elizabeth Warren's "You're a closet sexist" attack on Sanders, sometimes the elites don't care if they break a tool while they're using it. That might be the source of the panic amongst the Democrats; maybe they realize they're becoming dispensable.

That's hard to believe, however, because you can't have a suffocating duopoly without two wings--and the duopoly is working so well for the elites that it's hard to believe they'd scrap it.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

and minds to the DNC corruption. We know and knew back then that they rigged it against Bernie, but the centrists refuse to admit it. They call it CT of course and if anything looks whacky in regards to Bernie they say that he is just being a baby, wants the spotlight, ect and then blame his supporters for all the problems. For gawd's sake Donna Brazille admitted that yes they put their thumb down to help Her win as did Warren and yet it's just la la la la to their ears.

And unbelievably their are some people actually defending Chuck the toad Todd for calling Bernie's supporters brown shirts. And that Bernie did not have family killed in the camps, that was his grandparents. WTF? I just sat there stunned reading that shit.

But then they turn around and believe wholeheartedly that Her only lost cuz of Russia. And Bernie of course who didn't support her soon enough even though he endorsed her the effing convention.

This attitude from them goes well with the article I messaged you if you haven't seen it yet.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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@snoopydawg

Here They Come Again: The Kind of Neoliberal Democrats Who Prefer Trump to Bernie

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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@entrepreneur
And the key point is that they don't need to do it with a single candidate.
Buttigieg keeps Sanders short in Iowa, and maybe NH as well.
Steyer keeps him short in NV and SC (assuming Biden doesn't do it in SC).
Bloomberg swoops in starting in Super Tuesday.
Other candidates as the situation develops. I'm sure they've got it all gamed out.
Yet a week or so ago they floated the idea of changing the rules to allow superdelegates on the first ballot again. So their spreadsheet must not have looked good.
So as important as the top line numbers are, the battle will be won or lost one or two delegates at a time, as by challenging results and getting recanvasses or recounts that might gain one delegate. It may seem pointless to us, but that that's how small the ultimate margins will be.

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"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone

But the 1960's version. My first political debate was on the playground as to who would win a fight between Godzilla and Mothra.

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@MrWebster

Was about food and why the manufacturers didn't list details about the ingredients they used. This was quite a few years before that information finally did show up on the labels. A development that was legislated into being because "trust us" just wasn't cutting it anymore.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Oligarchy strangled every last bit of life, meaning and possibility out of it. Sickening that we should have to even consider jokes like Buttigieg and Bloomberg or fear the return of something as twisted and bizarre as Clinton.

2020 is going to be a long dragged out funeral march, a time for final good-byes.

But it will also be the time to gather up our dashed hopes, our Constitutional rights, our very real and thoroughly dissed humanity, brush it off, make it beautiful again and build, for real this time, a new party, one that respects and will fight for all the people of this country.

We will lose -- and we will win.

Thanks, creative Anja, for another great thread. ♥

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Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl

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@laurel

Dies hard, don't it? I'm right there with you lovely Laurel. Right there with you!

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@laurel

But good luck!

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@Wally ?

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Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl

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...but fear the cheating bastards will see he doesn't succeed. Like 2016 it is deja vu all over again I'm afraid. Also hoping Tulsi does well and gains a delegate or so. I suspect she would give them to Bernie.

The political system and economic system MUST be re-invented. Just have no idea how we get there.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout she will be allowed to participate in the next debate. Or so I've been told. Hope it's true.

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the buildings in the center of town...
Helpless people on subway trains scream my god as he looks in on them.
Go Go Godzilla!

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