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#Hogwarts is spreading.

Get him Bernie

Ugh

Heh

Let's talk policy

Good lord! More politics talk

Now to take a break from hitting at Bernie

Don't think about that elephant not on stage

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snoopydawg's picture

$60 trillion in 10 years as opposed to $45 trillion given to the banks even though they have committed one crime after another.

Think she has to worry about affording insulin for her children? Think she has one of the 1.5 kids living not in a house or apartment? Oh hell no she ain't worrying about money, but she will do everything she can to keep Bernie from helping those of us who are.

The status quo from Joe

But, but, but how does it work?

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"It seems to me that the problem is that group party interests, in this case, are placed above the interests of the entire society and the interests of people,"

The Republicans spent eight years claiming President MyBoss was a socialist and it didn’t seem to hurt him any.

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@Dr. John Carpenter

won't make any difference. Not only will he probably forget again anyway, but because his capacity for self-reflection is forever set at 0.

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snoopydawg's picture

I'm looking for something from Bloomberg

$12,000/year isn't much to live on.

Words from Amy

"I'm not Trump."

Yeah we can see that. But what will you do to make our lives better?

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"It seems to me that the problem is that group party interests, in this case, are placed above the interests of the entire society and the interests of people,"

Cassiodorus's picture

@snoopydawg "what's in it for me?"

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"There is no good future for the US if neoliberalism, and neoliberal elites, continue to rule." -- Ian Welsh

@Cassiodorus it can’t be more perfect.

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@Cassiodorus first time seeing it.

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@snoopydawg

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Actually, the issue at stake is patriotism. You must return to your world and put an end to the Commies. All it takes are a few good men.
--Q

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

snoopydawg's picture

the day Trump became president.

One candidate says my way or the highway.

George.."are you talking about senator Sanders?"

Geez it's sure looking like its attack Bernie tonight. I hope he tells them to shove their next debate. This is not a damn debate folks it's a hit job. Don't play along with them, Bernie.

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"It seems to me that the problem is that group party interests, in this case, are placed above the interests of the entire society and the interests of people,"

Alphalop's picture

topics.

Wow, now they are hitting Sanders yet with the Hillary BS, asking is it true that nobody likes him? SMH

This debate is a joke moderated by jokes asking questions that mean nothing.

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

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@Alphalop

some more.

Let's not!

Are you watching it live? I can't. I'm just doing Twitter

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"It seems to me that the problem is that group party interests, in this case, are placed above the interests of the entire society and the interests of people,"

Alphalop's picture

@snoopydawg Yeah, it's on ABC.

Tough though, it is such an obvious effort to tank Sanders it's tough to stomach.

These corrupt scumbags all make me sick.

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

snoopydawg's picture

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BTW Vindman quit his job so why was it bad for Trump to remove him early? Games

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Home run

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"It seems to me that the problem is that group party interests, in this case, are placed above the interests of the entire society and the interests of people,"

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@snoopydawg

Even technocrats aren't allowed to tell that much truth.

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Actually, the issue at stake is patriotism. You must return to your world and put an end to the Commies. All it takes are a few good men.
--Q

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

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lol

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"It seems to me that the problem is that group party interests, in this case, are placed above the interests of the entire society and the interests of people,"

snoopydawg's picture

If not I'll stick to words

Better question is anyone interested in this? Don't be shy

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@snoopydawg

you suffer through it so I don't have to. Smile

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@snoopydawg There was a fix for that, but I can't remember what it is Sad

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Hell is empty and all the devils are here. William Shakespeare

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@moneysmith

I can't see them on my other computer either. I will post both types. Great to see you and I'm reminding you that you owe me an email...hint.

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@snoopydawg n/t

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Hell is empty and all the devils are here. William Shakespeare

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@snoopydawg

Named “Pog Mahone” drinking Guinness and filtering it all through the Guardian’s live stream. And watching cricket when I’m bored...

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We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg

@Hawkfish
But if I was there drinking Guiness, the nectar of the gods, with you, i would be watching cricket nonstop until I was stoned.

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We are so screwed.

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What I meant is that the woman talking to the homophobic one has lots of patience. But I'm wondering if this woman was wearing blended clothes? Eats bacon? Kills her kids if they disrespect her? You know..all those other things Leviticus said?

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Why is this even a question? Ratings are in the toilet for debates for this reason!

This is better

Still.

Herheinous is not running!

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"It seems to me that the problem is that group party interests, in this case, are placed above the interests of the entire society and the interests of people,"

@snoopydawg Goes to AMY KLOBUCHAR! WTF?

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@Wally
Hooterville residents make more sense than the debates.
This episode was about Eva Gabor setting up a beauty parlor in the hick town.

I'd much rather look at Eva than Amy Klobuchar. Some of Hawkfish's Guiness would help. I ate have a can of mixed nuts which means fewer nuts than on-stage at the debates.

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We are so screwed.

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If I couldn't be president then Bernie can't either! It's not fair!

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@snoopydawg

If I couldn't be president then Bernie No one else can't either! It's not fair!
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"It seems to me that the problem is that group party interests, in this case, are placed above the interests of the entire society and the interests of people,"

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Hey kos where is Tulsi tonight? The last one or the one before it? But yeah it's just Liz who was excluded.

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"It seems to me that the problem is that group party interests, in this case, are placed above the interests of the entire society and the interests of people,"

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Especially because Trump and his fellow goons keep cutting funding and keeps making people jump through hoops to stay on social programs. If you really want to help families raise their kids better then stand behind them. Again 1.5 million kids are homeless. This should embarrass every member of congress. Especially the ones who say they are religious.

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or are we to presume that's all behind and if someone designed faulty software for a caucus no one is going to fix something dark behind the scenes.

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snoopydawg's picture

@Bob In Portland

But then I was just reading tweets posted on the debate. But would you be surprised if it didn't come up? It's not it was important or anything.

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@Bob In Portland

This is why people worry about sheepdawging. They aren't your friends when they are trying to kill your campaign.

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earthling1's picture

under the bus.
WTF Bernie?
We have masses of WMDs pointed at his front door, what would you do?

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After six years, still getting robo-calls from Marriot Hotels.
They're like herpes.

snoopydawg's picture

but he recently said something about Maduro and Columbia's president and wants them removed. This is where Bernie is the weakest. IMO. His foreign policy expert is pro regime change and too much pro war. Duff?

I posted a video from Jimmy Dore that talks about this. I don't remember which essay I did it in. But at the end Jimmy talks about his foreign policy guy and he is not impressed either. Last time I called out Bernie for this and I was told to shut up. I don't think so. I was anti war during Obama's, Bush's and Clinton's tenures and I will not change for Bernie. This is too important. We have no business killing people anywhere.

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Centaurea's picture

@snoopydawg

The guy's name is Matt Duss. I'm not sure what to think of him. His parents are evangelical Christians of the missionary variety. His father is originally from Ukraine, and I've seen talk elsewhere that he (the dad) is or was some sort of CIA asset. For a while, Matt was on staff at the Center for American Progress.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/matt-duss-bernie-sanders-forei...

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"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi

"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone

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@Centaurea  
causes Bernie to make those oinking noises whenever foreign policy comes up . . .

#Hogwarts

It’s really the “Imperialism” curse or, in German, Imperialismus, but that has too many syllables, so it gets shortened to “Imperius” . . .

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@snoopydawg

I think it's more than a bit hyperbolic to conclude that Bernie is "pro regime change and too much pro war."

First, Bernie is no advocate of and is even opposed to shock doctrine which destabilizes legit elected governments.

While he has been critical of certain left government leaders (for good reason in most respects), he has not called or pushed for regime change although he has insisted that democracy be honored.

He's also buddies with Evo Morales and was the first to call out the coup in Bolivia for being such (and then Tulsi joined in after about a week, making Bernie and her about the only folks in solidarity with the left there).

Not anti-war? Only Bernie keeps voting against Trump's "defense" budgets. He speaks in support of cutting "defense" spending. I'm sure Tulsi will find a place in his cabinet, most likely with a big impact on issues of war and peace. Maybe taking a cue from Dennis Kucinich, who I'd guess will also find a place in a Bernie administration, the Defense Department would be called the "Department of Peace."

Will Bernie increase spending on NATO military "exercises" which unnecessarily and stupidly put Russia on the defensive? I don't think so.

I mean we can quibble on all the details and I'd probably agree with you on many of your criticisms but I simply don't see another viable candidate out there who will try to stop the arms race and the development of a new cold war. And I find no reason to think that Trump offers us any solace in that respect. His too ardent support for Israeli military excesses puts us all at risk. Of course, a Bloomberg(Clinton) will do that too. And hopefully, NH will be the end of CIA Pete.

Finally, thanks for putting the thread together. Even I couldn't make it past the half-way point of the debate.

Edit/Add: Chris Matthews foams at the mouth:

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@Wally always a Cold Warrior, is Chris's motto. Comes in handy as we are in Cold War 2.0.

Grew up in an Irish Catholic family that favored Nixon in '60, when Chris was a teen. Nixon. I don't think Chris ever lost his early conservative leanings. As he was about to roll out his slender book on JFK, I recall him noting on air that he preferred JFK's "cold warrior side". He also peddled the myth that Kennedy and Nixon were "good friends" as a result of serving in the senate together.

Became buds with Roger Ailes, who helped establish Chris as an on-air political motormouth with his first show on CNBC in the 90s.

Spent much of the 2000 campaign slamming Gore, while he supported GW Bush. Helped run antiwar host Phil Donahue off the air in 2003. CM treated host Donahue brutally in a guest appearance on Donahue's show towards the end. He acted as if he knew PD was about to get the axe, so had carte blanche to kick him in the teeth. Great guy.

As for Bernie's moderate FP statements, it's probably about as good as to be expected for a top tier candidate in the current political climate. FP isn't registering much with the electorate, and we see how well Tulsi has fared with her bolder approach. I give him a pass at this point, and would hope for better once in office, Tony Perez willing.

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They also left out Amy"s part in sending an innocent black man to jail and warren's indian heritage but plenty of time to discus Bernie being a socialist and gun policy and Nina's column regarding Biden and black people.. Also too the Clinton bullshit.

Steyer raised a point about about Dick harpootlian racist remark but Biden just mumbled some meaningless mumbo jumbo as a response.

Edited to add this is response to bob in portland's question.

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She is now a full fledged moderate.

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snoopydawg's picture

@humphrey

Watch the Jimmy video on Bernie's foreign policy answers. It's easy to say that a head chopper chops off some heads, but it's another to stand up against Russia Russia Russia and Venezuela. He hasn't.

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"It seems to me that the problem is that group party interests, in this case, are placed above the interests of the entire society and the interests of people,"

Don't bite the hands that feed you.

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Would someone mind explaining that to me?

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In the Land of the Blind, the one-eyed man is declared insane when he speaks of colors.

@The Liberal Moonbat

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I don't want Trump to win, but I do want the establishment Dems to lose due to their cheating and undemocratic practices in the primary. And I will do whatever I can to help that happen.

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@entrepreneur ...but one thing I've never done and never WILL do is Tweet, so I'm assuming whatever I'm missing resides within that hashtag (I swear, Shitter's in need of an EMP suitcase-nuke to its central servers; ever heard of the Broad Street Pump?).

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In the Land of the Blind, the one-eyed man is declared insane when he speaks of colors.

@The Liberal Moonbat

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I don't want Trump to win, but I do want the establishment Dems to lose due to their cheating and undemocratic practices in the primary. And I will do whatever I can to help that happen.

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@The Liberal Moonbat

it should give you a clue. And lots of people are calling Mayor Pete Pettigrew a character from Harry Potter.

If you can that is.

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@snoopydawg I might've had a similar problem here (or at least, I'm still hoping somebody can help me out with it): https://caucus99percent.com/comment/467320#comment-467320

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In the Land of the Blind, the one-eyed man is declared insane when he speaks of colors.

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@The Liberal Moonbat

I can't watch tweet videos on my Mac computer, but I can on my iPad. Firefox doesn't support my old OS. Wally had this problem too but he found a way around it. Send him a message to see if he can help.

The video shows Snake trying to spell Pettigrew and that's the connection to hogwartz.

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You know, I haven't watched even one second of any of the Democratic "debates," but I have read all the essays and associated comments regarding them here on c99. As time progresses, with every one of these "debates" I am ever more and more thankful that our intrepid members here at c99 have taken one for the team and suffered through them – because I would never be able to stomach it.

From what I've learned, I'm about ready to place my bets in Vegas on this election. I'm pretty sure it's not too early. It's going to be all in on Trump. I can't lose.

The few Americans who bother to watch this sham are, no doubt, just shaking their heads in disbelief.

Republicans are laughing their asses off and ordering champagne by the case.

Me, I'm already counting my Vegas winnings...

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@travelerxxx  
having bet £200 on Trump back when the odds were still 100–1.

https://money.cnn.com/2016/11/08/news/betting-election-trump-clinton/ind...

And some betting companies really took a bath, particularly PaddyPower, which was so sure Clinton would win it paid out a million dollars worth of bets on her early, a month before the election.

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He was talking about the debate AFAIK. I have sound muted on videos...so closed captioning is displayed if available...Facebook translated Buttigieg as Buddha judge...

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in kind of a pathetic way...

Really speaks to his "authenticity' don't it?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Anja Geitz than Gary Hart and Bill McKay. And not nearly as handsome as McKay.

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