The joy of watching the ruling elites panic

Submitted by gjohnsit on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 4:55pm

They aren't even pretending anymore. It's amateur hour and they are throwing everything at the Sanders campaign to see if something/anything will stick.

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Meanwhile, this happened.

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Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders recently surpassed former Vice President Joe Biden in a poll on the popular political betting site PredictIt for the first time, just days ahead of the first caucus for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination.

Sanders led in the poll with a 39% chance of winning the nomination, while Biden followed at 34%. People on the site buy shares corresponding with the polls, so a share trading at 39 cents corresponds with a 39% chance.

They are starting to realize that it may be too late.

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Big money Democrats have shown reluctance at funding such an effort, which could consist of ads attacking Sanders, and institutions associated with Democratic politics have largely shied away from being part of any campaign that goes after the senator, either out of fear over the backlash or growing acceptance at the prospect of him becoming the party’s nominee.

Better think of Plan B.

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Submitted by Wally on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 6:01pm
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. . . for saying this nonsense.

I also saw a clip the other day where Donny Deutsch said something to the effect that Bernie has no chance of beating Trump and people who think he can live on another planet. MJ went after him for being a privileged old white super rich guy who lives in a DC bubble. I have it cued up:

[video:https://youtu.be/HF0r0vzkTMA?t=984]

And the three minutes or so of this MSNBC talking head lady (who I've seen being really rotten to Bernie and surrogates) giving a pretty fair exposition on democratic socialism blew my mind:

On the other hand, it looks like neolibcon print media is amping up their attacks on Bernie. I'm not going to bother to link that desperation.

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Submitted by gjohnsit on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 5:42pm

@Wally
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Submitted by Snode on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 8:03pm

@gjohnsit On November 2, 2016, he announced that he had voted for Hillary Clinton for President. This guy can't get anything right.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 8:09pm
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@Snode

It's a doozy. This is the guy responsible for hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis. I'm not taking anything he says seriously.

Article in tweet below.

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Submitted by lotlizard on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 10:46pm
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@snoopydawg  
around January 27 … stylized and institutionalized as a memorial day —

“Never again” — and never a focus on who might be responsible for war crimes and mass death and destruction in the present —

Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen … Gaza? U.S., NATO, Israeli, even Saudi elites have only the best of intentions! Take everything they say at face value! Except Trump! If anything is bad, it’s because of Trump!

Sometimes the U.S. and Israel say it’s OK to go after a country and its leadership as the designated “bad guy” — Iran, Putin, or the “Hitler of the month” like Saddam or Gaddafi — or Assad …

Otherwise Germans in media know to self-censor and shy away from criticizing other countries or dwelling on their own country’s losses and sorrows — lest they be accused of trying to get grandpa and grandma off the hook for 1933-1945 —

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Submitted by mimi on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 11:12pm
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@lotlizard
and our correspondents are responsible for that. This is not self-censorship, it's cowardice. The naiveté of Habeck was mind boggling. Oh well, soon this all will be irrelevant, as other life threatening dangers will make all of it look like peanuts.

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Submitted by Snode on Tue, 01/28/2020 - 4:28am

@mimi and we have journalists, billionaires, politicians and facebook to thank for that.

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Submitted by travelerxxx on Tue, 01/28/2020 - 1:38pm
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@Snode

...we have journalists, billionaires, politicians and facebook to thank for that.

Please allow me to reduce that to the lowest common denominator for you: ...we have journalists, billionaires, politicians and facebook to thank for that.

While Facebook overlaps a mite, the rest simply have their hand out as they look the other way, their conscience switched off.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 11:36pm
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@lotlizard

more than once here and elsewhere. As long as people in other countries are dying from our bombs, invasions and sanctions then Never Again is still happening and I don't believe Jewish lives are any more important than any other people.

And especially because of what Israel is doing to Palestinians. Muslims in the country they keep bombing. Etc, etc!

And the rewriting of history regarding the role Russia played in WWII and in rescuing people from Auschwitz is beyond disgusting. Kids today are learning less than we did and lots of it is pure grade propaganda.

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Submitted by chuckutzman on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 5:37pm

stop and and back over him.

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TULSI 2020

Submitted by The Voice In th... on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 5:43pm

Referring to the 1968 election.

The way I see the election is this:
If I was laying in the street George Wallace would run over me with his car.
And if I was laying in the street, Richard Nixon would order his chauffeur to run over me.
And if I was laying in the street, Hubert Humphrey would cry a lot as his chauffeur ran over me."

Anyone remember who said this?

BTW, that's sort of how I felt about the 2016 election. Substitute Trump for Wallace and Clinton for Nixon. There was no Humphrey, crying or otherwise.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

Submitted by FutureNow on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 8:27pm

@The Voice In the Wilderness
Are you wondering or just testing us?

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Submitted by Dr. John Carpenter on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 8:54pm

@FutureNow fwiw. Smile

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Submitted by The Voice In th... on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 9:56pm

@FutureNow
Wondering. After all it was half a century ago.
But it does sound like Dick Gregory, indeed!

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

Submitted by Bollox Ref on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 5:54pm
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Fortunately, our cable service is so basic that we can't tune into such dross.

What led this oaf to come up with this peculiar suggestion? Does Sanders have a history of motoring away from bodies strewn across the roads of America?

Asking for a friend.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 6:02pm
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More like it belongs in the gutter with Chris' ratings. Good grief who wouldn't think every person would stop to help someone?

But the hits keep on coming.

Try reading the article. It's full of propaganda nonsense. Or just plain nonsense!

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Submitted by Pluto's Republic on Tue, 01/28/2020 - 1:05am
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@snoopydawg

He takes us on a tour of Hell, the Hell that Bernie will face, which will be dished out by the supporters of Donald Trump. The author describes how Bernie will be shamed with the twisted truth and smeared with fantastic lies as he descends through each Ring of Hell, only to face defeat at the bottom. The only two Angels who could save him ("African Americans" and "suburban women"), but they will refuse to do so. The Angels will only use their votes to lift Joe Biden to victory, which implies that they would rather have Donald Trump as their President than vote for Bernie Sanders. Trump Derangement Syndrome does real damage.

Using Dante's logic, we must conclude that the Russian 'election meddlers' were not waiting for Bernie Sanders in Hell where they can easily destroy Bernie's campaign. Obviously, the Russian's only attack the elections of 'real' Democrats, like Joe Biden, and thereby guarantee his loss. I suppose that makes sense. Only 'real' Democrats, like Joe Biden, vote to send Americans to fight proxy wars against Russian allies.

As it turns out, TDS is on track to sink the entire Democratic Party.

[edit = typos]
[edit = redundancy]

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 7:59pm
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@Pluto's Republic

lol about the Russians only going after real democrats. Ima gonna have to steal this.

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Submitted by MrWebster on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 6:02pm

Oh man, I feel a tsunami of Russiagate accusations coming on..what if Bernie was a Putin plant....etc.

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Submitted by MrWebster on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 6:25pm

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Submitted by gjohnsit on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 6:33pm

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I guess that means Bernie would have off'd himself.

/s
Shapiro is a stable genius like Trump.

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Submitted by MrWebster on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 6:35pm

@gjohnsit Shapiro is covering all bases.

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Submitted by boriscleto on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 7:00pm
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@MrWebster I love the RationalWiki entries on both of them...

Jonah Goldber - RationalWiki

Ben Shapiro - RationalWiki

Goldberg's argument that the National Socialist Party was socialist because Socialist was in the name was rejected by everyone but idiots. Shapiro is a professional idiot...

Goldberg wrote a book called Liberal Fascism[4] in which he claims that Swarthmore-educated grade-school teachers are a greater risk than actual fascists.[5] (This is despite the fact that he doesn't even know basic history about Benito Mussolini.[6]). The underlying premise is so poor that readers should be encouraged to pick it up in order to see what tripe the National Review actually publishes. For example the book clearly states that Hitler's National Socialist party (National Socialist German Workers' Party) was Socialist because it included the term in its name. This is not so much discredited but dismissed as idiocy by sane people.

The immature rantings of Shapiro as a college student weren't something he grew out of. Instead, his dumbest beliefs were reinforced by a right-wing culture that nurtured every nutty idea he had, and pressured him never to stray from a far right ideology. As a result, Ben Shapiro has become a professional idiot.
—John K. Wilson

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Submitted by MrWebster on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 7:18pm

@boriscleto He makes up crap as he goes along. This guys operate at such simplistic levels. What I read of Goldberg, his logic was:

Hitler was a vegetarian.
Liberals are vegetarians.
Therefore, liberals are Nazis.

But this theme that the Nazis were socialists also spills over to right wing Christians. They want more than anything, to kick Nazis out of Christianity. So it goes:

Socialists hated Christianity.
Nazis are socialists
Therefore the Nazis hated Christians.

This of course absolves Christianity of any responsibility for the mass killing of Jews.

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Submitted by lizzyh7 on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 7:23pm

@boriscleto whos Repug friends spout that Socialist line about the Nazis on FB. I keep trying to tell her she won't win with people that damned dumb but she still tries, bless her masochistic self.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 7:56pm
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@MrWebster

I love when a sheltered Hollywood media personality tries to explain what motivates a campaign he isn’t a part of before he implies the only Jewish candidate for president would’ve sided with the Nazis...
On Holocaust Remembrance Day.

Lots of idiots coming out of the woodwork to take down Bernie. But Perez gave the biggest fu to Bernie and his supporters. Nothing like being obvious that you're trying to rig the primary.

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Submitted by Cassiodorus on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 10:07pm
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@snoopydawg Another legacy of Barack "900 seats lost to the Republicans and I still think I can tell the Democrats what to do" Obama.

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Submitted by aliasalias on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 10:41pm

@MrWebster about the liberation of Auschwitz, which sounds like Hollywood's version of history.
I guess we gotta keep the hate for Russia burning brightly, heaven forbid anyone give credit where credit is due, particularly if it involves the RUSSIANS!.
I love Bernie but revisionism, particularly at this time and with the subject of Russia on the hot burner, is not the answer. Go ahead and repeat the unproven facts about Russiagate but don't erase the accomplishments and sacrifices of the people of Russia and its military in WW2.

One last item, Vladimir Putin was also in Israel for the 'Holocaust memorial' and Putin mentioned in his speech that over 40% of the victims of the death camps were were Russian Jews.

It is a well documented fact, even on film that it was the Red Army, alone, that liberated Auschwitz and the best reply to the recurring twitter comment in the thread saying 'but they were Allies, right?, was the reply (paraphrasing) 'So I guess you'd say the Russians were part of the battle of Midway in the Pacific because they were 'allies, right?'

‘Embarrassing mistake’ or revising history? German paper says AMERICANS liberated Auschwitz – and it’s not the only one

" The German weekly Der Spiegel “mistakenly” said the US Army liberated the notorious Auschwitz death camp. They have company in erasing the Soviet Union’s role in ending the Holocaust from WWII history, too: the White House.

Der Spiegel published a graphic on social media platforms last week saying the “amerikanischen Armee” (US Army) was the one that liberated Auschwitz, the largest Nazi death camp.

That would have been news to anyone in the 322nd Rifle Division of the Red Army’s 1st Ukrainian Front, which actually kicked in the gates of the camp on January 27, 1945. That date was later adopted as the international Holocaust Memorial Day.

Der Spiegel owned up to “this extremely embarrassing mistake” fairly quickly, saying they made it on Thursday evening and had corrected it by Friday morning."

The writer ends with this...

"...When this happens once, it’s an “extremely embarrassing mistake” indeed. When it’s reinforced by speeches from the top two US officials, however, one is tempted to conclude something else is afoot.

On the same day Der Spiegel published the flagrantly false claim, US Vice President Mike Pence – speaking at the World Holocaust Forum in Israel – described the camp’s liberators as mere “soldiers,” without saying whose. He went on to talk about two million US soldiers who fought in Europe and suffered “appalling casualties” to free the continent “from the grip of tyranny” – while reducing the far greater contribution of the Red Army and the Soviet Union to a token phrase about “all the Allied forces.”
(all emphasis mine)
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/479323-spiegel-auschwitz-americans-soviets-trump/

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Submitted by Pluto's Republic on Tue, 01/28/2020 - 12:20am
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I'm committed to restating the truthful narrative regardless of where it takes me. It's a obligation that comes with the gift of perception and intellectual honesty.

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Submitted by WoodsDweller on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 7:07pm
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... by "wouldn't stop his car" he means "wouldn't vote for a tax cut", and by "help an injured person" he means "help an oligarch retain some of his wealth because they're the real victims here".

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Submitted by lizzyh7 on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 7:07pm

I donated to Bernie. While I love the desperation out of these sick freaks it makes me mad enough to donate and I swore I would not. I might have to make it weekly too, just to spite them, lame as that is.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 7:48pm
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Literally lmao! Hey Chris you got anything to say about this?

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 8:11pm
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Warren's is Madeline Albright for gawd's sake. This on top of the article about who she put in her foreign policy bucket tells me all I need to know where she stands. Pass!

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Submitted by leveymg on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 8:56pm

more tax and regulation. They won't voluntarily give up everything they've built during the past half century of privatization and deregulation just because the vast majority want them to. If they have to make such a choice, they'll poison the wells and burn the bridges behind themselves. Why should they behave like good citizens, now?

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 9:21pm
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@leveymg

Plus Trump will keep appointing the right wing judges that will get to rollback any progressive legislation that democrats passed back when they were sane.

Except for the tax cuts that didn't need any democrats to vote for it every legislation that Trump has put up has passed with bipartisan support. Nancy put no roadblocks on Trump locking up children in detention centers. No support for the dreamers. Nothing to keep Trump from taking money meant for other programs to build his damn wall. And billions in increased military budget and even more money for Israel to continue oppressing the Palestinians. So what's not to like with Trump being president for Nancy and her fellow sycophants.

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Submitted by davidgmillsatty on Tue, 01/28/2020 - 1:42pm

@leveymg Is keeping Sanders and Warren in Impeachment prison while Biden is free to roam the country to campaign. And if the Democrats manage to derail Sanders this way, then the Republicans get to bash Biden for weeks on end while the impeachment trial lasts and lasts and lasts.

The Democratic light bulb is as dim as it gets.

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Submitted by Dalum Woulu on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 9:34pm

Hillary Clinton's faults on Bernie Sanders.

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Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 11:34pm
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@Dalum Woulu

Matthews still projecting

..... his .....

faults on Bernie Sanders.

Wink

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Submitted by entrepreneur on Tue, 01/28/2020 - 7:39am

@Dalum Woulu

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Submitted by Situational Lefty on Mon, 01/27/2020 - 11:45pm
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and start an investigative committee into what had happened and then made sure that anyone else it happened to would be offered the same legal protections.

The other candidates would stop and ask their biggest donors, "What should I do?".

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