Tuesday Open Thread ~ The Incredible Shrinking Waistline


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“If you want to be happy, set a goal that commands your thoughts, liberates your energy and inspires your hopes.” ~ Andrew Carnegie

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Good Morning!

Welcome to Tuesday's Open Thread. I hope everyone enjoyed their Thanksgiving Day Holiday. Mine was especially memorable, beginning with my drive out to my Sister's house where I was auspiciously re-directed towards the historic Route 66. Thus, while everybody else was stuck in traffic over on the 210 freeway, I was enjoying a scenic trip through the San Gabriel foothills, singing along with the radio and taking in the spectacular views of the snow dusted mountains. The last few weeks have been like that for me. Where I'm getting green lights in every direction I go. Maybe that's what they call momentum?

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“There are two powerful fuels, two forces; motivation and inspiration. To be motivated you need to know what your motives are. Over time - and to sustain you through it - your motivation must become an inner energy; a 'motor' driving you forward, passionately, purposefully, wisely and compassionately... come what may, every day. Inspiration is an outer - worldly - energy that you breathe and draw in. It may come from many places, faces, spaces and stages - right across the ages. It is where nature, spirit, science, mind and time meet, dance, play and speak. It keeps you outward facing and life embracing. But you must be open-minded and open-hearted to first let it in and then let it out again. Together - blended, combined and re-entwined - motivation and inspiration bring connectivity, productivity, creativity and boundless possibilities that is not just 'self' serving but enriching to all humanity and societies...just as it should be.” ~ Rasheed Ogunlaru

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How Sweet It Is

Well, it's Day 94 of my weight loss journey and I am now wearing some of my long forgotten favorites. Was digging around in my closet before the holiday looking for something "new" to wear and there it was. My Coach Leatherware jacket. An extravagance I splurged on while I was working for their Product Development Department over 20 years ago, this particular jacket was a prototype for their Outerwear line that never made the final cut. So you might say that not only am I unique, so is my leather jacket. And you know something? I look pretty damn good in it too. Slapped a pair of Calvin Klein jeans on to go with my jacket and I actually smiled at my own reflection in the mirror. How long has it been since I've done that?

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Getting back into my closet and feeling better about myself has been an incredible experience. What began as merely a weight loss challenge has fired up something in my soul. Suddenly I find myself making goals in other areas of my life, both professionally and creatively. I am feeling confident and eager to tackle projects and long held dreams I've had on the shelf for so long I'd almost forgotten I once cared about them. So, where am I headed on this journey of inspiration and discovery? Not sure yet, but I do know one thing. Where ever I am going, I am not taking directions from this guy anymore...

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"Dearest Fear: Creativity and I are about to go on a road trip together. I understand you'll be joining us, because you always do. I acknowledge that you believe you have an important job to do in my life , and that you take your job seriously. Apparently your job is to induce complete panic whenever I'm about to do anything interesting - and, may I say you are superb at your job. So by all means, keep doing your job, if you feel you must. But I will also be doing my job on this road trip, which is to work hard and stay focused. And Creativity will be doing its job, which is to remain stimulating and inspiring. There's plenty of room in this vehicle for all of us, so make yourself at home, but understand this: Creativity and I are the only ones who will be making any decisions along the way. I recognize and respect that you are part of this family, and so I will never exclude you from our activities, but still--your suggestions will never be followed. You're allowed to have a seat, and you're allowed to have a voice, but you are not allowed to have a vote. You're not allowed to touch the road maps; you're not allowed to suggest detours; you're not allowed to fiddle with the temperature. Dude, you're not even allowed to touch the radio. But above all else, my dear old familiar friend, you are absolutely forbidden to drive." ~ Elizabeth Gilbert, Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear

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What if Peter Piper Picked a Peck of Roasted Parsnips?

Celebrating Thanksgiving this year, my Sister and I decided to do things a little differently. Instead of loading up on the carbs and the desserts, we gave ourselves other options. We still joined in with the traditional Turkey eating, along with the gravy and a little stuffing, but we also enjoyed four wonderful vegetable dishes. Rutabaga and cauliflower mash with garlic butter was my Sister's contribution, along with the roasted delicata squash and a pot of smokey collard greens, while I experimented with a new parsnip dish. Taking full advantage of Trader Joe's spices and seasonal items this year, I created something that even surprised me! Sweet, savory and crispy-liscious! I hope you enjoy these tasty parsnips as much as we did at our table!

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Roasted Parsnips with Black Truffle Butter

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Ingredients
2 lbs. of parsnips
2 cloves of garlic
1/3 cup of TJ’s Toasted Sesame Oil
1 tsp. of TJ’s Umami Seasoning
2 Tbl. of TJ’s Black Truffle Butter

Instructions

  1. Preheat oven to 425 F
  2. Peel parsnips with vegetable peeler and cut lengthwise like you would carrot sticks
  3. Place parsnips in a lightly greased roasting pan (do not over crowd them or they won’t get crispy)
  4. In a small bowl add sesame oil, minced garlic, Umami seasoning, and mix well
  5. Brush oil mixture onto parsnips , and then cover with vented foil to let out steam
  6. Roast for 20 minutes, take cover off, turn parsnips over, and roast for another 15 to 20 minutes, checking often so they don’t burn
  7. While parsnips are roasting, melt butter and keep warm
  8. When parsnips are soft inside, and crispy on the outside, take out of the oven and brush the truffle butter while they are still hot
  9. Plate and enjoy!

Serves 4

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Raggedy Ann's picture

When I started my lifestyle change of eating only in an eight hour period every day, I didn't realize the effect it would have on me. Like you, I can wear things that have been "lost" in my closet forfknever! I look at myself in the mirror and love that person looking back at me. I get compliments ALL THE TIME. I have a friend who says, "you seem so happy all the time." to which I reply, "because I AM!" My sister-in-law said it takes determination to stick to this lifestyle change and I'm here to tell you that my determination has never waivered and now I'm reaping the rewards.

Losing that weight and now keeping it off has been an incredible journey. I changed my life October 2018 and 14 months later, I can't believe the transformation.

And you are correct - it makes one make plans and have goals that were not presenting themselves before. I'm a new woman!

Have a beautiful Tuesday, folks! Pleasantry

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@Raggedy Ann With my weight loss journey...I now sometimes wake up in the middle of the night just to try on all those clothes I couldn't wear (or button) months ago and just look in the mirror in amazement. It takes a while to get used to eating so much less but once used to it, the weight just falls off. The only problem I have now is what to do with all my larger clothes. That would kinda be my entire closet.

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@longtalldrink @longtalldrink
Do you have Savers in your area? I've been able to replace my wardrobe 10 times over, paying next to nothing for my outfits. I can go into Savers and walk out with top name brands - several outfits - for under $50. It's amazing! It's like I'm renting my clothes! I take back what I don't want and get a 20% off coupon! They have 50% off days and just had 40% off over TG. It's the only place I shop for clothes anymore.

Thrifting saves lives! Pleasantry

Edited to add: when I saw the woman in the convertible I thought of a woman I worked with that grew up in Rochester NY in the '50's and had a similar look and convertible. I always envied her - her life went well. However, she died, five years ago of stomach cancer. No one gets a free ride.

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“The trouble [with injustice] is that once you see it, you can’t unsee it. And once you’ve seen it, keeping quiet, saying nothing, becomes as political an act as speaking out. There is no innocence. Either way, you’re accountable.”
-- Arundhati Roy

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@Raggedy Ann regarding "Savers". Checked it out online and the nearest one to me is 50 miles away. Sad Oh well...this may still be my chance to clear out my closet once and for all and donate, donate, donate. Gonna miss my old stuff (not).

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@Raggedy Ann That woman was Grace Kelly in "To Catch a Thief" one of my all time favorites.

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@longtalldrink

What a pair. What a movie. What a dress!

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@longtalldrink
had that same look about her. She probably emulated Grace Kelly - something I never thought about until now!!!

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-- Arundhati Roy

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@Raggedy Ann Who wouldn't want to emulate Grace Kelly? The ultimate cool, aloof blond? I heard Alfred Hitchcock was crazy for her...who can blame him?

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@longtalldrink

Period. But, yeah, I can see the Grace Kelly attraction.

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@Raggedy Ann

I am more surprised than anybody how the weight loss has motivated me to dream larger. It's a wonderful feeling. I wore lipstick the other day for no reason other than it pleased me to do so. But I'd be lying if I said I'm not enjoying all the compliments. I mean who doesn't like hearing, "You look great!" all day!

Thanks for your story and your encouragement. Smile

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Good morning all. Am inviting spontaneity to join me in my adventures as well as creativity! Of course fear rides in the back seat! My weight journey has not been as successful as many of you but would have to say it is in part my lack of determination to change some aspects of my diet. Guess need to think about motivation.

The parsnip recipe looks interesting. Never been a fan but maybe the spices can encourage me to give it a try. I did try okra again while visiting my sister in Michigan.

Am planning my route from Santafe back to Texas hill country via backroads and no freeways. We will see what I figure out.

Thanks for the OT as it inspires thoughts of new directions.

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This ain't no dress rehearsal!

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@jakkalbessie

Of putting fear in the back seat! Did you ever notice how fear seems to say the same thing, no matter what you're doing? STOP! STOP! STOP!

Can't believe I've been listening to that advice for so long.

Have a great trip exploring the back roads!

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Looks like 3 of my best travel buddies are giving up world travel beginning 2021, intend to stay in the US.
I suspect they want to explore gourmet restaurants here. They are very committed foodies.
They research chefs and menus.
To each his own.
I prefer to explore.

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@on the cusp
in an 8 hour period, they should be okay. They can fast a day and reset. It's what I do. I fluctuate in a five pound area - 119-124 any given week. It's a miracle!!!!!

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-- Arundhati Roy

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@on the cusp

Your stories of your adventures always inspire me. As it should be. You have what I would call the heart of an explorer...

“...I try to incorporate life's lessons from everyone around me and pay it forward anytime I can. I look at every person I meet as a new and thrilling experience with which I'm gifted. Every new city or country or continent that I visit is a beautiful exploration from which I can learn. Every new client or project represents the possibility of meeting new people and having new adventures.”
― Andrea Michaels

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Had dinner with family and friends. Everybody came with a side. I noticed full plates with the veggie sides dominating and very little turkey.

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@MrWebster

We killed three bottles on Thanksgiving and ended up drunk dancing in the livingroom!

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@Anja Geitz
on my head. Ok maybe just once in my twenties on the lampshade part.)

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@entrepreneur

Things we did drunk when we were 20 yrs old. We could have an informal competition; best story wins bragging rights.

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semi-annual and do odds and ends before making Turkey Tetrazzini (I know, I know) for dinner. It isn't that horrible if you exercise restraint and also don't get carried away at breakfast and lunch. I'm trying to decide if I should just make it straight, like every year now for decades, or throw in a can of green chiles. Since my dental appointment is at noon, lunch will very likely be a minimalist thingie anyway.

It is good to read everybody being enthusiastic and celebratory over healthy matters, both inspiring and hope provoking. Plus, nobody talking about xmas and shopping and all that which is also inspiring and hope provoking.

Everybody have a good one.

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@enhydra lutris

Turkey Tetrazini sound like the ultimate comfort food. My mother used to make turkey pot pies with the leftover turkey. Another comfort food. Being as how I'm not breaking my fast for another hour and a half, I guess I'll have to put the thought of both those dishes out of my mind, eh?

Black Friday Shopping? Bah! Who needs that!?!

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So glad to hear about y'alls health improvement! I want to shout the benefits and I probably sound like a broken record in my essays. There is corporate suppression to changing the dietary guidelines and providing folks with accurate information about healthy diet. Here's just one example of the seed oil companies control...
https://www.dietdoctor.com/how-big-food-fights-back

Nina Teichloz explains why the guidelines are important...

Well, it comes down to the guidelines are downloaded by every medical association. So when the medical association establishes what’s in the hospitals, or they can set out recommendations, it’s very hard to then go up against that, but I mean one thing the guidelines are really downloaded by dietician’s society, nutritionist society, nurses, doctors and so they’re just teaching the guidelines.

So, and they’re the ones in control of the diet. The diet summer camp, the diet that you send your kid to. All the cafeteria food, you know, is pretty much controlled by the guidelines and big, big institutions. What about the military, that’s supposed to protect us? There’s a study out that people actually gain weight while they’re in the military.
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Everybody has downloaded the guidelines to their professional associations and those professional people work in all of our institutions and then they deliver the guidelines and they make it very hard for anybody to generate change. So, you know people who– even medical doctors, who want to teach low-carb diet and they’re part of a large medical practice, they’re forbidden from doing that, they literally can’t do it, because the medical practice fears liability because they’re not teaching the gold standard dietary guidelines.
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the statement that all these studies had been excluded is a statement that refers to every successive dietary guideline committee, so I couldn’t ask this dietary guideline committee, you know, why are you ignoring the Women’s Health Initiative results or the Boeing trial results. Same thing – NAH funded showed the same thing, that low fat diet had absolutely no ability to protect against cardio-vascular disease, diabetes or obesity. ...
So, food companies and pharmaceutical companies and the supplement companies– supplement companies are a big player because, then remember, I said the dietary guidelines, are nutritionally insufficient. They depend, they sell those nutrients, they sell them in refined and enriched grains, and they sell them to consumers. And they say if you’re not getting enough of this because you can’t eat meat, because the guidelines tell you not to eat meat, here are the supplements, so how do they influence our whole process?

I mean at every level they’ve been doing this since the 1940s, was when the first organization was founded by food companies and their major goal was to influence nutrition science. And, you know, they are really clever.

For a start they fund their researchers, they give them grants or they fly them places, or they underwrite their conferences, or they pay for their journals to– or they pay for ads in their journals where the researchers want to publish their journals, and then they up, anyway, so they want to do it at the very, or they endow chairs, and/or they fund a research assistant. You know at Harvard, to go back to it again, and you know a research assistant that’s funded by Unilever, one of the vegetable oil makers in the world.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/diet-doctor-podcast-21-nina-teicholz

What a corporate con, and all around the world people are getting fatter and fatter. It is why we are sick and spending so much on health care...cause we've been educated to eat incorrectly.

Why you feel better when eating a healthy diet...

When you become metabolically flexible, meaning you can burn fat and carbs, during your fat burning periods your body's fuel are ketones. When your brain runs on ketones it has a cleansing effect improving your clarity (the ancients recommended fasting to improve mental clarity). Another reason mood and attitude improve is the change in your gut biome...which communicates directly with your brain and is responsible for much of your serotonin production (the happiness hormone).

If you feel bad. Have aches and pains. Can't seem to lose weight. Have difficulty with mental focus. My bet is you eat (too much) sugar and are hyperinsulinemic. If your insulin is high it is impossible for you to burn fat. Dump the sugars and the processed carbohydrate (eat all the fiber, which is mainly carb, you want) and you will be amazed in just a month (especially if you can narrow your eating window to 8 hours or less a day, as RA suggests above).

Well always nice to hear the good news about successful diets and feeling better. CB wrote a comment in my Sunday piece saying ...

I lost 35# in 3 months eating Keto.

This path to better health has been so rewarding to me, and glad hear it works for many of you too.

Have a great day! Thanks for the uplifting OT Anja.

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@Lookout

If you feel bad. Have aches and pains. Can't seem to lose weight. Have difficulty with mental focus. My bet is you eat (too much) sugar and are hyperinsulinemic

That was me three months ago. Can't believe the change. I walk by the cookies and cakes people put out in the break room now thinking to myself "that's a lot of sugar". If that wasn't bad enough, we were giving out samples of our new Holiday Peppermint Chocolate Brownies at work yesterday and I had to smell them baking brownies all day. People couldn't believe my resolve. I'm like a different person.

Yeah, those guidelines. My Sister is a dietitian and she knew those guidelines were wrong years ago. She always counseled for more vegetables, less carbs, real food.

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@Anja Geitz

And their partners...like coke, pepsi, etc...are powerful foes. They've been going after Dr.s recommending high fat diets. Tim Noakes of S. Africa https://lowcarbcardiologist.com/bh026-professor-tim-noakes-of-the-noakes... and Gary Fettke in Tasmania https://isupportgary.com/articles/enough-is-enough-dr-gary-fettke have been (and are) targeted. Don't step out of the box!

I'm sure glad they did and helped us all move forward!

Have a great one.

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@Lookout

Only shows further how we must become our own advocates in our health care and our health. Thanks for the links.

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gotten to where I can taste high fructose corn syrup from 20 paces
yucchy

getting an early New England snow dump today
Birdies hungry -- seed and suet, making a rustic bread for the humans
fire in the wood stove, shoveling heavy wet stuff...
ready or not, here it comes!

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@QMS

But what to do if we can't roast marshmallows?

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@Anja Geitz
turns into dripping lava
incense on the logs.
Rarely makes it to the graham cracker
let alone the hershey bar
unless you work with a forked stick?

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@QMS

Well, if we can't do marshmallows, maybe we could try some of these?

https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/6-foods-you-can-cook-on-a-stick/

I mean, really, how many other things in life are this easy?

Menu 1. Hot Dog
hot dog cooking on stick over fire

I’ve run into a surprisingly high number of men who have never roasted a hot dog on a stick. Which is a shame, because though there are as many ways to cook a wiener as there are to skin a cat, fire-roasted is unarguably the tastiest. Cooking this meal is the simplest of all the stick foods as well; just impale that wiener and hold it over the embers or even place it straight into the flames. Hot dogs are quite resilient; they’re hard to burn or “flame out.” Just heat and eat.

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@Anja Geitz
Used to get corn dogs on a stick at the county fair
slathered with mustard, they slid right down
barely had to chew.
Eeww.

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@QMS

I guess that's better than fried Oreos. Talk about eewww!

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@Anja Geitz
In the deep south, everything is fried.
Even ice cream.
Sweet and salty.

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@Anja Geitz

Biggrin

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@thanatokephaloides

On a stick, but then I came across this:

Egads! Smile

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has dropped out. Didn't even make it to Iowa. I'm sure someone with more to say will make a full post later, but this is all I've got available ATM.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/kamala-harris-is-dropping-out-of-2020-p...

Multiple sources told CNN on Tuesday that Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) is ending her presidential campaign.
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“In good faith, I can’t tell you, my supporters and volunteers, that I have a path forward if I don’t believe I do,” Harris wrote in a message to supporters. “So, to you my supporters, it is with deep regret — but also with deep gratitude — that I am suspending my campaign today.”

So where do you think her remaining supporters will go? Warren?

UPDATE:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-dropping-out_n_5de6a263e4b0...

Harris held a call with her team in Iowa on Tuesday, saying that she had made the decision because of financial struggles experienced by the campaign.
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The news came just as a super PAC reserved airtime in Iowa for an ad blitz, set to begin on Tuesday, meant to bolster the candidate. (It quickly cancelled the spots after Harris’ announcement.)
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Presidential hopeful and former Vice President Joe Biden, speaking to reporters after a town hall in Iowa, said he was disappointed the California senator had been forced out of the contest. "Her hair always smells so nice and her fingers taste amazing."
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Harris was spending far more money than she was bringing in, and according to The New York Times, she made the final decision to drop out after a financial audit showed she would have to go into debt in order to stay in the race.

And from the Twitter machine:

Bernie Sanders
‏Verified account @BernieSanders
56m56 minutes ago

Thank you @KamalaHarris for running a spirited and issue-oriented campaign. I look forward to working with you to defeat the most dangerous president in history and ending the hatred and divisiveness that he has created.

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The truth is never as interesting as wild speculation.

@WoodsDweller
Workamile put up the news on Cass' MB book review thread earlier.
No idea where her followers will go.
Giuliani? Or maybe he's not running yet.

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@WoodsDweller

Top Tier candidate drops out after becoming Bottom Tier candidate. Pity her actual record got in the way of her PR angle.

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@Anja Geitz

It’s disappointing to see a once-diverse pool of candidates become nothing more than “white billionaires,” Aimee Allison, founder of She the People, an organization that helps women of color get into politics, told HuffPost.

“The Democratic field has transitioned from one of the most diverse in history, to the same old, same old, with white billionaires thinking they can jump in at halftime and buy their way into the White House,” she said.

“As a Black woman, Sen. Harris had to work twice as hard for half the reward,” Allison added. “Democrats have failed to invest in candidates — and voters — of color and are continuing to do so at their own peril. Democrats haven’t won the presidency with a white man in over 20 years. It is time to wake up and speak to the base.”

I'm not sure where to begin. Steyer and Bloomberg don't belong. The rest, love them or hate them, are not close to being billionaires. Additionally there are still PoCs in the field who will likely qualify for the Dec. debate and will continue to run even if they don't make the artificial requirements. Lastly, it makes as much sense to say "the last time we ran a woman we lost". Hers is not a meaningful analysis but I suppose if it's said vehemently enough it'll pass these days.

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@Anja Geitz Remember that little girl that ran in the 2020 Democratic Presidential campaign? Well, that was me.

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@longtalldrink

Lol, with Kamala as material, we could go at this all day long.

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keeps this distraction from focusing on issues,
policy and solutions. A horse race is only exciting
until a few favorites drop dead and the doping scandal breaks.
Then it's just another day at the track.
Step right up and place your bets.
Tell me, where are democratic values being advertised
in this circus? Must be the sideshow.

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@QMS

A horse race is only exciting
until a few favorites drop dead and the doping scandal breaks.
Then it's just another day at the track.
Step right up and place your bets.
Tell me, where are democratic values being advertised
in this circus? Must be the sideshow.

Wink

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