Why the Democratic Party fears Third Parties

In New York the Democratic Party's chairman is pushing forward a bill that would make it more difficult for third parties to get candidates on the ballot.

The Democrats are doing this undemocratic thing that ironically would weaken minor parties backed by progressive Democrats and strengthen the state’s Conservative Party, which often cross-endorses Republicans.
The Conservative Party, unlike the progressive parties have enough voters to meet the threshold.

On the other side of the country, the Democratic Party-dominated states of California and Washington changed to a “top two primary” or a “jungle primary”.

The top-two systems used in California and Washington have again barred all minor party candidates from the November ballot, except the minor party candidates who ran in races with only one major party candidate on the ballot. “Major party candidate” in this context means a Democrat or a Republican.

In 2016 in California there were fourteen minor party candidates on a primary ballot: nine Libertarians, two Greens, two Peace & Freedom, and one American Independent Party.
Only five advanced to the November ballot because only one major party candidate opposed them. They were all right-wing Libertarians.
In 2016 in Washington there were thirty-three minor party candidates on a primary ballot: 29 Libertarians, one Green, one Socialist Workers, one Fifth Republic Party, and one Citizens Party.
Only eleven advanced to the November ballot because only one major party candidate opposed them. They were all right-wing Libertarians.

Are you starting to see a pattern?
There's more. The Republican Party-dominated state of Texas is looking to change the election rules.

Texas House Bill 2504, passed along party lines by the state’s Republican-controlled Legislature in May and signed into law by Republican Gov. Greg Abbott in June, lowers the threshold that minor political parties — defined in the law as parties that nominate by convention, as opposed to by primary — must meet to have their candidates appear on the ballot.

Under the new law, a third party’s candidates can qualify to appear on the ballot if any one of them got 2 percent of the vote in a statewide race in the last five elections. Previously, a third party’s candidates earned a spot on the ballot if any one of them won 5 percent of the vote in any of the most recent statewide elections.

Obviously Republicans have no problem with third parties, eventhough the right-wing Libertarians get roughly three times the number of votes that the left-wing Greens get.
Meanwhile the Democrats are so desperate to crush left-wing third parties that they are willing to boost right-wing parties. That seems counter-intuitive when you look at the overall voting population.

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At face value this makes no sense.
More people identify with the Democrats on the left than with Republicans on the right, so Republicans have less margin for error.
Plus right-wing third parties are massively larger.

All things being equal, it's the GOP that should hate and fear third-parties, while the Democrats should welcome them laughing.
Instead the Dems are willing to viciously smear one of their own if there is even a baseless rumor about someone making a third party run.

The math doesn't add up. People aren't acting like the way the facts are being reported.
So the only logical conclusion is that a basic premise is flawed.

Using Occam's Razor, the flawed basic premise here is that the Democrats are on the left.

The reality is that no one is on the left.
However, Democrats pretend they are on the left in order to collect those votes.
That's why the Dems are so terrified of a challenge from the left, because it will expose the lie by showing the people what a real leftist party looks like.

Meanwhile, the Repubs actually are on the right, so they don't feel threatened by a challenge from the right.

If this isn't true then how come Dems keep telling their base "No, you can't have that!"

When you add it all up, the Democrats do more damage to the left-wing than the Republicans could ever do.

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Well, in the Capitalist Party there are a few social issues that separate the party, but not enough to bother the Zuckerbergs of the world.

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Won a three way race. Rachel May is a fairly progressive Democrat, a former Syracuse University professor. The incumbent was a "Democrat" Dave Valesky was part of the "Independent Democratic" caucus that caucused with the Republicans so they could retain majority. The "Independent Democrats" were supported by Cuomo until they became a liability, and the courts ruled they couldn't collect lulus or chair committees. He lost a primary but was on the far right Independence Party and Women's Equality (he was running against 2 women) lines. He got 11,000 votes on the Independence line, the Democrat got 48,000 votes and the Republican 34,600. There were 68 other/write-in votes. It's a really weird district too, mostly rural Madison and Oneida County, but some Syracuse suburbs too.

The incumbent Repbulican Valesky ousted was originally a Democrat. She switched parties because the Republicans were in the majority and always had more money, and the farmers always voted straight party line Republican. The Onondaga County Republicans decided they didn't want her, but she was still supported by the Conservative Party. So she lost in a three way race.

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" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "

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if Bernie had said that he would not vote for Hillary? Sure you can. But it's okay that Manchin said that he will not vote for Bernie. Yep. Of course he is still being defended by the kids over there. "So what if he votes with republicans on almost every bill? He is there to give 'us' the majority."
SMDH!

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So far I haven't seen anything from Neenah on this yet. "But he is the only one who can win in W Virginia so we have to put up with him. Have we tried primaryimg him?

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@snoopydawg

In 2018, an attempt was made by Progressive Paula Jean Swearengin to primary Manchin. She ran as a Democrat and was backed by Brand New Congress and Justice Democrats. She lost but got 30% of the vote, which was pretty good.

Manchin's current term will expire in 2024.

Meanwhile, Swearengin is currently running again in 2020, trying to unseat the other US Senator from West Virginia, Shelley Capito, who is a Republican.

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"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi

"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone

The solution seems fairly simple: ranked choice voting—it might have saved France from Macron. It might make the party establishment lose to an independent candidate rather than one from the other party but that seems all to the good (except if you're in the establishment).

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@MinuteMan "Throwing away your vote! Traitor to the party! A vote for (anyone else) is a vote for Trump! Jill Stein caused Hillary to lose! (never a mention that Johnson got 3 times as many votes). Nader!"

To which I respond RANKED CHOICE VOTING. RANKED CHOICE VOTING. RANKED CHOICE VOTING. I'll say it again: RANKED CHOICE VOTING. Until you're loudly demanding that, SHUT UP.

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Lance Selfa's book "Democrats a critical history". Here is a nice summary :

https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/hope-killers-by-paul-street/

None of this means that the Democratic and Republican parties are identical. To be sure, the differences that separate them are "minor," Selfa notes, "in comparison to the fundamental commitments that unite them" (p. 13). Still, he reminds us, corporate America would have no reason to embrace a two-party system if there were no differences at all between the two competing "subdivisions" of what Ferdinand Lundberg once called "The Property Party." The U.S. ruling class profits from a narrow-spectrum system wherein one business party is always waiting in the wings to capture and control popular anger and energy when the other business party falls out of favor.

The parties are not simply interchangeable, however. It is the Democrats’ job to police and define the leftmost parameters of acceptable political debate. For the last century it has been the Democrats’ special assignment to play "the role of shock absorber, trying to head off and co-opt restive [and potentially Left, P.S.] segments of the electorate" by posing as "the party of the people." The Democrats performed this critical system-preserving, change-maintaining function in relation to the agrarian populist insurgency of the 1890s, the working-class rebellion of the 1930s and 1940s, and the antiwar, civil rights, anti-poverty, ecology, and feminist movements during and since the 1960s and early 1970s (including the gay rights movement today).

Besides preventing social movements from undertaking independent political activity to their left, the Democrats have been adept at killing social movements altogether. They have done – and continue to do – this in four key ways: (i) inducing "progressive" movement activists (e.g. Medea Benjamin of Code Pink and the leaders of Moveon.org and United for Peace and Justice today) to focus scarce resources on electing and defending capitalist politicians who are certain to betray peaceful- and populist-sounding campaign promises upon the attainment of power; (ii) pressuring activists to "rein in their movements, thereby undercutting the potential for struggle from below;" (iii) using material and social (status) incentives to buy off social movement leaders; (iv) feeding a pervasive sense of futility regarding activity against the dominant social and political order, with its business party duopoly.

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