Even Armando got fired from TOP

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10 years too late

Why was he banned? For being a complete a**hole.

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His twitter meltdown was getting too much heat. I saw it being reported and commented on several places, not just among us castoffs. Seemed like he was just saying the quiet parts on Twitter, but what do I know? Probably bad for business.

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@Dr. John Carpenter

bad man down.

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

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@Lily O Lady

He just can't quit BrokeBack politics.

[edit - typo]

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@Lily O Lady

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guy banning an even nicer guy. Sad day for America.

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"it's just Armando"
"he meant something else"
"it's the Bernie Bros fault"

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@Shahryar

I read the second diary on it last night and couldn't believe how many people said that he didn't say what everyone thinks he said. The first diary got deleted and the person who wrote it got put in DK jail. But it got worse. If it wasn't what he actually meant it was Russian bots trying to do what they always do..or...

One last point, did you ever stop and realize that for some reason when these “incidents” occur, it’s ALWAYS Sanders or Sanders supporters that are in the middle of everything?

Why is that?

Yep. It's Bernie's supporter's fault!

Armando blocked me years ago and it looks like it has transferred over to his new name. Lots of people said they were blocked, but had never tried reading his tweets before.

In case anyone wants to know what Armando looks like..

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Arrogance times 10! I thought he'd be taller.

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@snoopydawg

it’s ALWAYS Sanders or Sanders supporters that are in the middle of everything

I am guessing it's because it's always Sanders or Sanders supporters who are being attacked and insulted. But how dare they stand there and take the abuse!

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@snoopydawg , he would have a neck.

This Man

Has No Neck.

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@Bisbonian

Best I can tell, he doesn't need a neck...

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@travelerxxx

. . . now it's been chopped off.

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@Bisbonian

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@Bisbonian

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@snoopydawg

Yep. It's Bernie's supporter's fault!

Happy to share the credit with a CRITICAL MASS unlike any ever assembled on the American political scene.

Hey, it's not so bad if we make their skin crawl when they wind up doing really stupid stuff that blows up in their faces. One thing for sure, they aren't getting any brighter. And their numbers are shrinking.

And I'm pretty sure the likes of David Sirota and Briahna Joy Gray aren't going to be taking any prisoners.

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@Wally

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I can't believe that she worked for Bernie last time, but is now working for ByeDone. How does she square that in her mind?

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@snoopydawg

I'm convinced of that.

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@Centaurea

Symone Sanders was a mole.

Yeah, but 6.022E+23 molecules of what?

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@thanatokephaloides

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

@Centaurea

A real New Deal Democrat whom you'd expect to support Bernie with undivided loyalty. /s

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@Centaurea , in the ground?

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@snoopydawg

Neither Gray or Sirota are proponents of IdPol. Gray has some of the best pieces I've ever read dissecting, exposing, and dilineating the deadendism of IdPol. I simply don't get the same vibe from either one of them. Their resumes are a lot more solid and impressive than anything SS has by way of accomplishment and experience.

I'm glad SS is with Biden. The stuff she's been saying, though, makes me wonder if she's a mole over there, too.

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with the rest of the banned, banished and BOJO'd ?

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@Azazello
I like how he got so unhinged he couldn't spell

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@gjohnsit in tone. Nina Turner can slice and dice you without being vulgar or vile. Armando is simply vulgar. I suspect the second tweet is what did it. Like it was said before, it was bad for business, kos "banned" him. But Armando will be back. He is one of those who does a lot of kos' dirty work.

And yes, I watched this in real time. The vile Neera Tanden started it all by attacking Susan Sarandon (and her little dog) for campaigning for Bernie. Nina Turner jumped in to defend Susan and it went downhill from there. These Hilbots are a sick bunch of people who are still litigating the 2016 campaign.

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@gulfgal98
used the term "Bitterati" to describe the hillbots. Made me chuckle, that did.

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@Azazello

Thanks for the chuckle! I really needed this tonight!

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I had something to do with this, and no, by no measure was he banned. He is no longer a contributing editor, and that is his only sanction.

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@snoopydawg @dervish

That just ain't right!

And the guy drawing attention to his slobbering viciousness gets a time out?

DKos-ers defending him?

Wow!

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Why do people still act like it does? They are a small bunch of people who like to be in a group of like minded non-thinkers. It's just more of the same crap. Let it go!

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@jbob and a lot of Thought Police as I recall. But it's been about a decade since I posted there on occasion. I was having to tip-toe around in my posts in case I wandered too far off their established political reservation.

I prefer not to give them any clicks so as not to add to their ratings numbers.

As for Armando, he was fine so long as you toed his line or you didn't post anything he disagreed with in the political/historical area. If you just stick to the weather and the state of your health, he's a wonderful person to engage with. I'm sure.

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@jbob

It doesn't effing matter what happens at TOP Why do people still act like it does?

It wasn't that long ago that Daily Kos was considered the "official" voice of the American Progressive Left. And it still is in certain mis-informed quarters. Thus, simply "letting it go" isn't an option, just like merely ignoring the sell-out of the Democratic Party isn't an option. These are "eternal vigilance" situations, at least until the organizations in question are reliably and verifiably dead.

You don't have to read these essays, please remember.

And when a serious corporatist belittler of progressive ideas and their proponents, like Armando, gets The Boot, there's a tasty sauce to go along with our dish of vigilance. That sauce's name is German, and the German term is what it is known by in almost every tongue on Earth:

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@thanatokephaloides

It wasn't that long ago that Daily Kos was considered the "official" voice of the American Progressive Left. And it still is in certain mis-informed quarters. Thus, simply "letting it go" isn't an option, just like merely ignoring the sell-out of the Democratic Party isn't an option. These are "eternal vigilance" situations, at least until the organizations in question are reliably and verifiably dead.

It still is in many articles and when Chuckles Todd brings on Moosetits and says he is from the most progressive website in the blogasphere evah that needs lots of push back. DK has become Centrist Central and they are proud of it. The blog that was created during the Bush years and was anti war until Barak made doing wars cool. Lots of talks about how Moscow Mitch is filling the courts with federalist judges, but none whatsoever about how many dems are helping him do that. Now Trump and Mitch are talking about gutting SS and Medicare if Trump wins again, but no one ever mentions that Obama offered Mitch just that. Apparently we had no president between Bush and Trump that did the bad things they did/are doing.

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Armando (whom I don't know from a hole in the wall, btw) said Turner fucked Sanders. He has said elsewhere that he meant in the sense of "fucked him over), though he paid her to represent him. As in,

"Did Turner represent Sanders well?"

"No, she screwed him." or "No, she fucked him."

However, KOS apparently took it as an anti female, prostitution related comment and banned him.

Seems to me that either interpretation is possible. So, why are we assuming that the banning by KOS was justified? Did KOS eve ask him what he meant before banning him? I would hope someone would do that here before banning me, if, after a number of years, I posted something that could be construed as sexist or not. If KOS, why didn't KOS take the word of their long-time, loyal flunkie? Did he have a history of sexist remarks, disrespectful to women?

I don't get it.

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@HenryAWallace

Swim with the sharks . . .

Interpret the original tweet however you wish:

Uh huh. Bernie is finished. You are finished. Sarandon is finished. What’s funny is stupid ass Bernie is paying you to fuck him. https://t.co/QICP5mc1uJ

— Armando (@armandodkos) August 21, 2019

There was also what sure seems like a coordinated flurry of very similar crude tweets directed at Sarandon and also Nina Turner documented here: https://twitter.com/SusanSarandon/status/1164524038112370688

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@Wally

post as I wish. I'm interpreting as Armando tweeted he meant it. And he at least believes he got booted for sexism, not for being anti-Bernie.

I posted at Kos only a few times during the 2016 primary season to defend Bernie. I have no idea who Armando is or what he is like, except recent tweets tell me he worked for KOS for a long time. I also have little idea what Kos is like, except for the complaints I read about it here.

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@HenryAWallace

I think it's pretty safe to say, unless he's claiming temporary insanity, he purposely used some really crude inflamatory language. And it was clearly done when a flury of other viciously misogynistic epithets were being thrown around at Berners in the period of a day or two. Coinkydink? Maybe. I doubt it. Hey, he can always sue Markos for wrongful termination. Shark fight!!! Where's Alligator Ed?

That said, Brazil is lots more important but I feel so freaking helpless about it other than doing what I can for now by supporting Bernie. Damn, what a fucking mess.

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@HenryAWallace
who's long deserved to be bojo'd.
I don't care why he was fired.

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@gjohnsit

much about Markos, except complaints I've read about him and DK here,)

If you don't care why he was fired, fine, but I didn't read the OP to say that. Hence my bewilderment.

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@HenryAWallace

and as for giving him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't actually mean what he meant is because you don't know his history as you admit.

I have no idea who Armando is or what he is like.

I don't care if he didn't mean what he wrote, it was the way he wrote it and it is his long history of writing things that way. Armando has been banned up to 5 times previously because he couldn't stop being a dick to anyone who disagreed with him. So he wasn't just banned before he could have been asked what he really meant and just arbitrarily. Armando has shown who he was long before he posted that tweet.

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Haven't checked its veracity.
But maybe someone could who has the time and could also give him a piece of their mind?

From "The Great American Lemming Farm: Dispatches from the frontlines of a rotting empire" comes this, "KOSFEST and The ‘New Rush’ (published in 2005, possibly?):

During the Kosapalooza lovefest the great one himself stood atop the dais, it was as though the savior himself was ascending the mount, the fingers of his apostles went flying in unison to their laptop keyboards, the noise was overwhelming, like that of the clacking mandibles of an advancing army of dung beetles. This was Markos Moulitsas Zuniga’s coming out party, on Friday morning he achieved crossover appeal from notorious mockingbird Howard Kurtz’ Media Notes column in the Washington Post to E.J. Dionne Jr.’s latest piece The Rise Of Kos where he was essentially proclaimed to be the ‘new Rush Limbaugh’. While I certainly would not be pleased to be compared to a racist, misogynist, drug addled, thrice divorced pig who can’t get a hard on without pharmaceutical assistance and whose sex tourist soirees of vile debauchery through the fleshpots and brothels of the Dominican Republic hardly make him a champion of ‘values’ I am sure that Zuniga is cackling with glee all the way to the bank and enjoying his moment in the spotlight as the Dems make their pilgrimage to kiss his ring. I do however give the devil his due for planting a gigantic bug up the ass of the state sponsored neocon FOX network’s chief fascist blowhard Bill O’Reilly...

I have my own documented history of problems with Zuniga and Daily Kos, many are personal and the others are because I detest electoral politics, censorship sucking up to candidates to curry favoritism at the expense of ideology or a unifying mission to take back this country from the war pigs, Social Darwinists and Rapture freaks who have taken it hostage but as the saying goes, nothing unites like a common enemy and I would encourage everybody to take some shots of their own at that loudmouthed prick O’Reilly as well as the rest of the Republican noise machine moonbats to take their raving, anti-American asses down a peg or three. It’s time for total war against the fifth columnist filth that has polluted the airwaves in this country for far too long with their Gestapo tactics and uncanny ability to rouse the rabble.

And another, "Blogswarmed by Cyber Stalin’s Soldiers of Orange":

Over the weekend a balls nasty napalm flaming hot civil war broke out at hallowed liberal blog Daily Kos and spilled over onto the much more open to free speeech (and more respectful in general) My Left Wing over a highly controversial post by an influential (and might I add absolutely correct) voice and it was ugly.

The opening salvo by longtime contributor Maryscott O’Connor started out with:
“Sometimes I am embarrassed to call myself a member of DKos.

This is one of those times.

There is a sort of groupthink, Lord of the Flies kind of behaviour at DKos over certain issues that absolutely makes me nauseated.”

The author, an outstanding writer in her own right went on to call into question the behavior of many of the members of the hottest left wing blog going regarding their witch hunt mentality (personally I compare it a drunken lynch mob fired up by some ranting demagogue in a beer hall) and crushing of certain dissenting opinions. The treatment by the head honcho toward the Democratic Party’s sacrifice of Paul Hackett was also addressed and it sent shock waves reverberating throughout the Kos-O-Sphere. I wrote a piece back when Hackett was thrown under the bus by the slimy corporate fucks in the DLC and believe me, it still makes me want to throw up. Sleazy bastards like Rahm Emanuel and the rest of the reprehensible Vichy accommodators whose mortal fear of derailing the status quo far exceeds their will to participate in a true democracy are the real reason why the Republican menace has been running roughshod and is hell bent on unleashing their jack-booted armies of brownshirted thugs….there is no fucking opposition! The DLC sold out the working class long ago and until there is a serious move by the Democrats and their progressive mouthpieces to address this we will forever be trapped in an endless cycle of “GOD, GAYS & GUNS” and other inflammatory social issues that distract from the looting and crushing of dissenters.

That being said, the shit hit the fan on DK and the fan was on high sparing nobody from getting showered by the spray. The mindless rush to attack the messenger reminded me of nothing short than the Bushist Gestapo pouring out of their megachurches after a particularly ‘uplifting’ Hellfire and Brimstone anti-liberal sermon, the loyalty as intense as the dumb bastards stormed the beaches oblivious to the thundering artillery and whithering machine gun fire in order to wage total war for their leader even if they are cut to pieces in the process.

“Dkos is rotten through and through. If you cannot smell that,.,..after the refusal to allow posts about the election fraud, after the pie fight brouhaha, the July 4th masscre/tinfoil hat thing, the gradual diminutiion of intelligence in most of the posts and comments and the concomitant ascendency of some sort of pack mind there, the tacit acceptance of the reign of cyberbullies like DHinMI and HIS blogmates, the various tactical shuffles of the leadership in an attempt to stay…stay WHAT, exactly, other than totally false…the disastrous symbolic choice of Las Vegas (The absolute WORST symbol of the corporate Disneyfication of America that could have possibly been chosen as a place to have a left wing meeting here in MediAmerica, 2006.), the ummasking of Armando as a conscienceless and aggressively unapologetic lawyer for the DisneyCorpse-ish motherfuckers that are turning this nation into a population of mindless, TV addicted serfs, let ALONE the “appearance of impropriety” in the buddy buddy, wink-wink/nudge-nudge support/non-support of Warner…

There's more of this excellent shredding:

"Dkos is just at a certain level in the evolution of organization. It is the nature of organization, and MLWers will have to work very hard to keep it from happening to that extent here. But, that would be the exception to the general rule. There will be a hierarcy, intolerance of independent thought, group think, and purging, purging, purging. It’s happened in every liberal organization to which I’ve ever belonged, and it’s fucking depressing. Liberals tend to become fascistic in their own little fiefdoms. Liberals eat their young.”

Meet the new boss…..same as the old boss!

“Agree with all comments except… the “influence” of the mighty Kos monster is still very presumptive, and very much in doubt…and frankly always will be…how do you verify his influence at the polls? I mean, Bush has been a much greater force for coalescing the reactive Democratic movement than Kos. As MSOC said, he, Armstrong and others were just lucky to be the sounding board in the time of the Great Reptublican Idiot.

Sure, if the Dems win something he can TAKE credit, but is it really his to take?

The liberal blogosphere is a great sounding board for the “disadvantaged”, but its still nothing more than a reactionary liberal chat room with fascist tendencies…well DKos has apparently slipped into full blown cyber fascism, apparently…this site and nowhere excepted.

Thanks MSOC for being reborn and keeping it real for a few of us, at least! I remember well your days of consciousness raised at the Kos.”

Then,

As long as you have pathological assholes like Armando donning his Hitler hat and his lackeys and ilk controlling the discourse this is sadly coming true. Need of mainstream acceptance leads to self-censorship and agendas. As far as cred, hey show me some fucking electoral success instead of a lot of yappy, self-centered yada and sanctimonious bullshit and you’ll get my respect……I’m waiting! Absent winning shy don’t you get busy in advocating for some fucking social justice in this country, take on the class war…..the little guys are getting their asses kicked on a daily basis while you people are more interested in puppy love and humping the leg of whichever Democratic Party charlatan happens to be serving free booze.
And Finally A Little Love:
“Thank you MSOC for this diary. It gave me the opportunity I needed to say my piece about the lynching of Edencho on dkos by Armando. The reason I am so angry about it still is because I was stupid enough to listen to him. I gave him authority he didn’t have, and I have been chewing on this ever since. You gave me the opportunity to say my piece without ending up in dkos’ troll heaven. I absolutely agree about the persecution hysteria at dkos, and I wonder about the mental health/maturity of some of the people there.

Thank you, again, for opening the door for me.”

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@Mark from Queens

He workers at a law firm that defends some of the sleaziest corporations on the planet. I read about his history on the way of the bern in the Armando tweet thread and the person who wrote the comment said that he got banned from DK when he outed who Armando was behind his mask. Made me wonder why Kos had him on his staff in the first place?

Sleazy bastards like Rahm Emanuel and the rest of the reprehensible Vichy accommodators whose mortal fear of derailing the status quo far exceeds their will to participate in a true democracy are the real reason why the Republican menace has been running roughshod and is hell bent on unleashing their jack-booted armies of brownshirted thugs….there is no fucking opposition!

Amen to this. This became clear once Obama took office and non of the Bush policies went away including the illegal spying that Obama put on steroids and not allowing the Patriot act and the Bush tax cuts to expire like they were meant to.

he, Armstrong and others were just lucky to be the sounding board in the time of the Great Reptublican Idiot.

And then it became obvious that it was selective outrage during Obama's tenure. And again during the last election when writing about Hillary's abhorrent history was considered right wing talking points. Expose the witch behind the folksie charm and boom you're gone.

Great additions to this thread, Mark. And as always it's good to see you.

Sadly Maryscott O’Connor has gone all in on Russsiaaa Russiaaa......

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@snoopydawg I haven't seen her in years.

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@dervish
has never posted anything. I happened to notice because periodically I look at the members list just to see if anything interesting is going on.

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@UntimelyRippd

It begs the question, what is c99p becoming?

Because it is becoming.

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@Pluto's Republic
your sig-line.

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@UntimelyRippd to re-connect with her.

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@dervish
she ever even logs in. If you go to the member list (link is under the Site Menu thingy on the left) you can scroll down and find her. Just click on the link, and then click to send a personal message. I did when she joined, but she didn't respond -- but then, my message was just sort of vague and observational, not an invitation.

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@Mark from Queens @Mark from Queens
archival memorial posts. Brings back a lot of memories, unfortunately most of mine are gone and unarchived, but it's good you have those in your 'vault' somewhere.

I wished I could have a complete list of my comments from dkos, but don't know how to get those. And I wouldn't know how many they may have erased. If I had them, I could provide lots of proofs.

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