Bernie and Tulsi and polls
Will Tulsi qualify for the next debate? That depends on how it's measured.
Since then, Gabbard has shot past the 130,000 donor threshold, and as of Aug. 11, she was sitting at 159,514 individual donors. That took care of one-half of the qualification criteria for the next two debates.Where Gabbard is seeing some struggles is in the polling numbers. Well, sort of.
The reality is that since June 28 (the first day of the time in which polls can be counted towards September qualification), Gabbard has hit 2% or higher in eight different polls, which is more than the already-qualified Klobuchar and Yang.
Yet, the DNC only counts one of those as an approved poll, meaning Gabbard still needs three more polls to her resume.
Something tells me that Tulsi isn't going to qualify according to DNC rules.
Not if DWS still has any influence.
Meanwhile, the "unelectable" Bernie continues to beat Trump in every poll.
Brand new poll from SurveyUSA:
Bernie 50% (+8)
Trump 42%This is the FIFTEENTH straight poll that shows Bernie defeating Trump.#BernieBeatsTrump https://t.co/byF1WkjvCS
— Josh #Bernie2020 (@Gacheeta94) August 11, 2019
So why would people think that Bernie is unelectable? It certainly isn't because the news media has it in for him.
That would be konspiratorial.
"Sen. Sanders is a member of a large club of politicians — of every ideology — who complain about their coverage,” Marty Baron said in a statement to CNN. “Contrary to the conspiracy theory the senator seems to favor, Jeff Bezos allows our newsroom to operate with full independence, as our reporters and editors can attest.”Baron’s response came after Sanders knocked Bezos, who also owns Amazon, during a campaign speech in Wolfeboro, N.H.
"I talk about [Amazon's taxes] all of the time," Sanders said. "And then I wonder why The Washington Post, which is owned by Jeff Bezos, who owns Amazon, doesn't write particularly good articles about me. I don't know why."
In fact, even suggesting that the WashPost has it in for Bernie makes him no different from Trump.
In NH today, @BernieSanders sounds a lot like @realDonaldTrump as he trashes Amazon: “I talk about that all of the time and then I wonder why the Washington Post, which is owned by Jeff Bezos, who owns Amazon, doesn't write particularly good articles about me I don't know why.”
— Jeff Zeleny (@jeffzeleny) August 12, 2019
On Tuesday morning’s edition of New Day, the network cast the net a bit wider. Co-host Erica Hill introduced a package featuring clips of Sanders and senior Biden adviser Symone Sanders by saying “Former Vice President Joe Biden’s campaign and Senator Bernie Sanders taking a page from the Donald Trump playbook.”
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by lumping Sanders and Sanders together, CNN has elevated the premise from mere false equivalency to a dangerous and offensive normalization of Trump, and one which CNN in particular should know better than to make.
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Not to label everything corporatist meddling but...
the influence of people with tons of money running very big companies is substantial. Those folks probably recognise Sanders as being very bad for their type of country which they've had free reign to promote for quite a long time. I remember when Obama made the rounds talking to the big guys in 08, all of a sudden the media didn't portray him as being scary anymore, the idea was "here is a guy who is not too outrageous, we can work with him". I don't think they figure Sanders can be controlled. Then again they didn't want Trump and Trump won.
Another Sydney Ember hatchet job
In the NYT this morning. Surprise, surprise.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
guilt by association
Jill Stein sat at a table with Putin! Bernie notices the Post is biased...just like Trump did!
Did critical thinking ever exist in the United States? I mean, as a general thing?
Sure it did,
a long, long time ago, before TV.
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
Guilt by association is such a plastic malleable technique
For utter intellectual dishonesty nothing beats guilt by association. Maddow is the master of it to the point she inferred Russian badness because she discovered that Russia had a border with North Korea. Now there is some guilt by association. Democrats forget that the gop tried to smear Obama because of some very loose association with Bill Ayers through the U. of Chicago.
From The Week:
What will it take for the Democratic establishment to abandon Biden?
There's a lotta' truth in that.
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
Unique donors versus polls
The DNC chose to put more weight on polls from "their polling partners" (whatever that means) over unique donors as the top criteria for qualifying for the debates. First polls use a very small sample, as little as 400 persons from one of the most recent qualifying polls. This means that for a candidate to get 2%, at least eight people out of the four hundred must name that candidate. With a statistical error of 4-5% in most polls, that can mean that a candidate could easily not qualify due to the statistical margin of error. Second, most polls only use land lines which means the demographic being polled tends to be older, therefore, not representative of the electorate at large.
Unique donors is a far better metric to determine a candidate's support. Tulsi has easily exceeded the unique donor requirement, and yet if she does not get the polling numbers she could very well be left out of the next rounds of debates just as Mike Gravel was.
I remember reading that Bill de Blasio had a really low number of unique donors and yet was allowed to compete in the debates.
Personally, I believe that any candidate meeting the current unique donors threshold should be in all debates going forward. The American people deserve the right to see and compare all the candidates against one another.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
"approved polls"
https://www.npr.org/2019/05/29/727852195/democratic-presidential-field-w...
Tom Steyer could upend the apple cart.
Not by running for president, but by financing real debates, with sensible moderators. If he did that, the DNC threat of excluding candidates from their “debates” would ring hollow.
How Real Clear Politics manipulates it's reporting of the polls
I came across an excellent twitter thread that goes into it in great detail:
https://twitter.com/greg06897/status/1160375366969679873
Well worth the time (maybe 15 minutes) and effort to delve into it in earnest.
Suffolk U. poll counted when
Suffolk U. poll counted when it was sponsored by USA Today. Tulsi hit 3% in a Suffolk poll, but not one sponsored by USA Today, so it didn't count.
Tulsi hit 3% in a YouGov national poll, which doesn't count, but YouGov counted when it was sponsored by CBS News in Iowa.
WTF? It's all a Byzantine shell game to prop up the MSM approved choices. If I were a candidate I would be filing a lawsuit.
After what Tulsi did to Harris, she is a goner.
I would be surprised if she makes the next debates. Looks like the establishment is coming after her with sharpened knives. Stop her before she turns the big proverbial guns on Biden.
Here's how the rules work
The DNC decides who it wants, then picks and chooses criteria that bring that choice about.
If it really, really wants someone excluded it uses polls that don't ask about all the candidates. As in "we'll use this poll that doesn't list Gravel and then keep Gravel out because he didn't reach our required percentage."
Sort of.
More accurately, the DNC is told who it wants. After that, you've pretty much got it right.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
That's right
because money equals free speech. The saying used to be that "money talks", today it barks orders and the DNC is all ears.
Bonus edition: NYT simply makes up news
Where did this Sydney Ember character
'study' journalmalism?
As bad as that other NYT nincompoop, Bari Weiss (see Joe Rogan takedown).
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
She didn't.
Study journalism, that is.
According to her LinkedIn profile, Sydney Ember has an Ivy League (Brown U) undergraduate degree in Comparative Literature.
After graduation in 2012, she went to work as a financial markets analyst at BlackRock. Yep, BlackRock. A couple of years later, in 2015, she was hired by the NYT as an advertising reporter. She married the son of the former Bain Capital CEO. Yep, that's Mitt Romney's Bain Capital.
From a Jacobin piece about Ember:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/07/bernie-sanders-sydney-ember-new-york-...
The Dem candidate, of course, was Hillary Clinton. Ember immediately embarked on the same shenanigans against Bernie that she's using again now: smear, obfuscate, misreport.
Basically, she's a Mean Girl. So is the other NYT "journalist" you mentioned, Bari Weiss. Ignorant, insulated in their little bubble with a limited worldview, and mean.
This is what the New York Times has devolved into.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
GOS has/had another straw poll.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"