@gjohnsit

As if our votes would have gone to Hillary had we not voted for Stein!

As if we hadn't warned Democrats Hillary could not win a general.

Stephen L. Morgan, the author of that Bloomberg article, can't possibly be that stupid. This is intentional disinformation. The man should be mocked soundly.

"Deport Greenwald" reeks of astroturf. I hate that smell.

witness the bubble

Indeed, this argument implies that if Trump had used less racialized rhetoric, without changing his positions on trade and immigration, he might have won more easily and not had to rely on the electoral irrationality of those who voted for Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate. Had the Stein voters supported Clinton instead, she would have carried Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

What could Clinton have done differently? Her campaign, either because it was hemmed in by Bernie Sanders or because it employed a poor strategy, undermined its chances by failing to craft an economic argument with sufficient populist appeal. It would not have been hard to argue that a debate on appropriate levels of immigration was just as important as a debate on a citizenship pathway for Dreamers, those brought to the country as children. And it would not have been hard to embrace the idea that it was time to reassess the North American Free Trade Agreement, more than two decades after its passage. The battleground states Clinton lost were engines of prosperity until the 1970s. The passage of Nafta in 1994 did not reverse the precipitous declines in labor demand for lower-skilled workers that began in the 1980s, and increased trade with East Asia since then hasn’t done so, either. Global trade has generated many benefits, but too few of them for high school graduates in the Midwest, or elsewhere.

The greatest risk Democrats face in 2020 is nominating a candidate who does not appeal to the economic interests of voters in the middle of the ideological spectrum, who have revealed that they have populist economic impulses.

IOW, hurray for the status quo! Biden 2020.

@Shahryar @Shahryar

a leftist. (She says "liberal," but, in context, it's clear she doesn't mean neoliberal or merely "Democrat.") A liberal, who favored Hillary over Sanders in the 2016 Democratic primary? Suuuuuure. A liberal who crossed a picket line? Suuuuuure.

(All the MSNBC hosts crossed that picket line, btw, even the late Ed Schultz who, IMO, got fired because he refused to go along with MSNBC re: Bernie Sanders and was otherwise too far left for MSNBC and was therefore, also IMO, the best of that crappy lot.)

NBC has announced the panel that will ask questions of the candidates. Night Two is Rachel Maddow and Chuck Todd.

I can already hear the prejudice in the vocal tone.