Monday Open Thread: March 25 is the I.D.R.V.S.&T.S.T.*

* That would be International Day of Remembrance of the Victims of Slavery and the Transatlantic Slave Trade
March 25 is the 84th day of the Gregorian Calendar year,
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And let us not forget by the Mayan Long Count

Image taken from page 164 of '[Across Africa, etc. [With a map and plates.]]'

Down in today's history, you will note that on March 25, 1807, Britain outlawed the slave trade (though not slavery per se) throughout the British Empire. This wa an outgrowth of and follow up to the 1772 case of Somerset v Stewart before the Court of King's Bench in England. One Charles Stewart, a British Customs officer Purchased a slave named James Somerset while in Boston, in the Massachusetts Bay crown colony (one of the 13 British colonies in North America) and took him along when he returned to England. Somerset escaped, was recaptured and was imprisoned by Stewart for shipment to Jamaica and eventual resale there. An application for a writ of habeas corpus was filed on his behalf to determine the legality of said imprisonment. The court somehwat narrowly ruled that Somerset could not be seized and shipped abroad under British law and ergo must be set free. Usherwood, Stephen. (1981) "The Black Must Be Discharged - The Abolitionists' Debt to Lord Mansfield" History Today Volume: 31 Issue: 3. 1981. cited in

The state of slavery is of such a nature that it is incapable of being introduced on any reasons, moral or political, but only by positive law [statute], which preserves its force long after the reasons, occasions, and time itself from whence it was created, is erased from memory. It is so odious, that nothing can be suffered to support it, but positive law. Whatever inconveniences, therefore, may follow from the decision, I cannot say this case is allowed or approved by the law of England; and therefore the black must be discharged.

In reaching this conclusion, the court found that no English statute nor any provision of English common law authorized slavery. At the time, the 13 "American" colonies were under British rule, and subject to British law, including English Common law. To this day, we have no common law of our own, but follow English common law whenever common law needs to be applied. This decision, in 1772 was something of a harbinger of death for slavery throughout the empire, and ws an additional incentive for the colonies to revolt. Though much flowery language ws then written, and is echoed today, the simple fact is that those in power in and exercising control over the colonies, the so-called "founding fathers" were almost exclusively well to do, land owning, white, male, slave owners. Somerset v Stewart struck a blow at the core of their lives and livelihoods. The closk was ticking.


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On this day in history:

1576 – Jerome Savage took out a sub-lease to start the Newington Butts Theatre near London
1655 – Christiaan Huygens discovered Saturn's largest moon.
1807 – The Slave Trade Act became law, abolishing the slave trade in the British Empire.
1811 – Percy Bysshe Shelley was expelled from Oxford for publishing The Necessity of Atheism. Look on his Works, ye Morons, and despair!
1894 – Coxey's Army left Massillon, Ohio for Washington, D.C.
1911 – The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory demonstrated the benefits of capitalism and business self-regulation
1931 – The Scottsboro Boys were arrested for being black and charged with rape.
1957 – United States Customs seized copies of Allen Ginsberg's Howl on obscene pretences. Fuck 'em!
1957 – The European Economic Community was established.
1965 – Civil rights activists led by Martin Luther King Jr. reached Montgomery, Alabama after marching for 4 days.
1969 – John and Yoko hold their first Bed-In for Peace.
1995 – WikiWikiWeb was made public. I've got a wiki on thir rig somewhere, you can too.


Born this day in:

1453 – One of the lesser Medicis
1867 – Gutzon Borglum, sculptor who designed Mount Rushmore
1867 – Arturo Toscanini, cellist and conductor
1881 – Béla Bartók, pianist and composer
1903 – Frankie Carle, pianist and bandleader
1925 – Flannery O'Connor, short story writer and novelist
1929 – Cecil Taylor, pianist and composer
1930 – David Burge, pianist, composer, and conductor
1932 – Penelope Gilliatt, novelist, short story writer, and critic
1934 – Johnny Burnette, singer and songwriter
1934 – Gloria Steinem, feminist and activist
1938 – Hoyt Axton, singer, songwriter, guitarist and actor
1942 – Aretha Franklin, singer, songwriter and guitarist
1950 – Chuck Greenberg, saxophonist, songwriter, and producer, formed shadowfax.
1950 – David Paquette, pianist
1966 – Jeff Healey, singer, songwriter and guitarist

Died this day in:

1738 – Turlough O'Carolan, harp player and composer
1918 – Claude Debussy, composer
1931 – Ida B. Wells, journalist and activist
1958 – Tom Brown, trombonist
1965 – Viola Liuzzo, civil rights activist
1969 – Billy Cotton, singer, drummer, and bandleader
1969 – Max Eastman, poet and activist
1988 – Robert Joffrey, dancer, choreographer and director
2006 – Rocío Dúrcal, singer and actress
2006 – Buck Owens, singer, songwriter and guitarist


Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:

International Day of Remembrance of the Victims of Slavery and the Transatlantic Slave Trade (international)



Music goes here, iirc, well,

Allen Ginsberg


John and Yoko


Frankie Carle


David Burge


a different David Burge, but, hey:


Johnny Burnette


Hoyt Axton


Aretha Franklin


Chuck Greenberg


Jeff Healey


Turlough O'Carolan


Buck Owens


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Image is Image taken from page 164 of 'Across Africa, etc. by CAMERON, Verney Lovett. from the British Library

It's an open thread, so do your thing

When this posts, I will be somewhere between 33.5717 and 32.6583 North latitude and between 116.072 and 116.4753 West longitude. Reception out there is pretty damn scarce and spotty at best.

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To Palomar Mountain

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Listen to your higher mind.

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maybe they are finally getting some coverage out here. Heh, I should have included altitude too, far closer to Salton Sea than Palomar. We're in the middle of one of the justifiabley world famous Borrego Blooms, the desert floor is a carpet of flowers, and they're in turn covered with these good sized weird caterpillars, that break out in such numbers that they have been known to decimate the flowers almost overnight. They, in turn are food for the kestrels, but, most significantly, a river of migrating Swainson's hawks that pause their annual migration to feast on them. I'm way too late or morning lift off, but hope to get to the local hawk watch site this evening when they settle in for the night. ABDSP is huge and highly topographic, with different wildflowers, cacti and other plants in different locales, and much critter variation too, so we have 4 days of beaucoups roaming and looking. Coyotes last night, right now sparrows, phoebes, crows, ravens, a pair of kestrels, mockingbirds, quail, a wren, white winged doves and a jack rabbit just bounded past. Definitely worth the drive from the Bay Area. I think I hear a thrasher too.
The place is lousy with painted lady butterflies too, so much so that you really have to be careful where you walk when you get up and move arond, which makes it hard to look at the scenery and such.

Have a good one.

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@enhydra lutris Have a great bloom! Great timing you have there! Wink Sounds like neat birds too. There is a spot or two out there where the San Diego Co. birders get LeConte's Thrashers, I forget the name of it though.

Good tunes... I love the Fugs, Hoyt Axton is awesome, and Jeff Healey is off the charts. I saw Jeff in L.A. when he opened for ZZ on the Recycler tour. Holy freakin' sheet mon! I was blown away, and have seen lots of great players. Folks you can't do wrong to check out some of his vids.

(He's the blind one sitting playing with the ax on his lap)

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Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

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We've gone an entire week without rain, but due some today. Oddly enough we could use it. The humidity has been down about 20% (very dry for these humid subtropics), and the soil is dry.

Spring is unfolding quickly. I hope most of you have seen its arrival. The trees are leafing out and the woods will transition from gray to green.

Nothing exciting to report. Off to go grocerying and run a few errands in a bit. Hope you all have a good one!

The Year of Jubilo (3 min)

from wiki :

"Kingdom Coming", also known as "The Year of Jubilo", is an American Civil War song, written and composed by Henry C. Work in 1862, prior to the issuing of the Emancipation Proclamation by U.S. President Abraham Lincoln.

The song is pro-Unionist, and the lyrics are sung from the point of view of slaves in Confederate territory, who celebrate their impending freedom after their master flees the approach of Union military forces. They speculate on the future fate of the owner, whom they suspect will pretend to be a runaway slave in order to avoid capture. With their owner absent, the slaves revolt, locking their overseer in a cellar as retribution for his harsh treatment toward them. The slaves then celebrate their impending emancipation by Union soldiers by drinking their absent owner's cider and wine in his kitchen.[1]

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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have a great day.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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Because it's alive and well in the United States. We of course just call it Prison.

I mean, they say it isn't, and after all it is COMPLETELY different.

We don't hobble them together. Oh wait, we do...
OK, well we don't force them to labor... fuck...
OK, well, it's not like our politicians use them as house servants... GOD DAMN IT!
OK, well, at least it's only for crimes... Dammit Collection agencies, I'm TRYING to make a point here!
OK, Well, it's not like we just round people up these days and put them into... ARE YOU EVEN FUCKING TRYING????


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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

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Have a great one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Blathering commentariat should cite thine own rules, that's what I think. so here I looked it up:

June, 2019
Democratic Primary Debate
Aired On: NBC News, MSNBC and Telemundo
Live Stream:
Qualifications: A candidate will need to either have at least 1 percent support in three qualifying polls, or provide evidence of at least 65,000 individual donations from a minimum of 200 different donors in at least 20 states.

Which polls qualify? Fuck if I know, and they're not saying. Thanks again. My guesses are NBC, CNN, and not FoxNews. heh

July, 2019
Democratic Primary Debate
Aired On: CNN
Live Stream:
Qualifications: A candidate will need to either have at least 1 percent support in three qualifying polls, or provide evidence of at least 65,000 individual donations from a minimum of 200 different donors in at least 20 states.

200 indie donors, not 65,000. And only 20 states. thanks

May 15th is cutoff because why now, and who's counting? lol go on and tell me, I don't know. A simple robot script can easily attain 65k from 200 donors by then, are there rules against that? Where are the rules, oh I forgot they are not "final" until October 2019. just kidding but not really. My ass has laughed off, can't find a real source.

NBC then CNN canned questions, the coming summer yawns. Politico reports rules wrongly on purpose, go echo go.

For the first debate, a candidate seeking to qualify through the fundraising method must receive donations from 65,000 people in at least 20 different states, the DNC official said.

Never trust a DNC official, never ever!
he said she said
Duopoly Profits
meanwhile not on NBC or CNN DEATH FROM ABOVE
Every Saudi coalition air raid on Yemen

Last updated: 25 March 2019

With a child dying every ten minutes, the UN has described the situation as a "war against children".

"Yemen has become a living hell," Geert Cappelaere, UNICEF’s regional director told Al Jazeera.

"A brutal war that has become a war on children. For which children have no single responsibility to bear.".

Disgusting duopoly values on display. monsters

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@eyo Is that what they're saying?
Do the people have to give the donations of their own free will, or can they be paid to make the donations?
Heck, do Corporate donations count as multiple independent donations because it represents multiple People?
Which States? What If I get ONE donation from 19 states, and 199 from North Dakota?
Do they have to sign a loyalty oath to run as a Democrat again, and to support the candidate if they lose? That was the deal last time.

Inquiring minds want to know!

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

@detroitmechworks lol thanks, I forgot about Fergie. poor fergie

Kool Aid

One cup of Kool-Aid has 25 grams of sugar

you know it's pure and good
it has the parents magazine seal
and it's thrifty!

Not confusing, not at all. Healthy. Torches of Freedom baby. caveat emptor

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Actually, to be honest, I am at the moment beyond any concern for the news, as I told QMS above. Out here the news is a massive beetle wandering around and whether any of the avian brotherhood will have it for breakfast.
Have a great one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris thanks and roger that. right on

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mentioned a favored group from my yute;

Enjoy the Bloom, Bruddah!

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Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .

Explain Bldg #7. . .

smiley7's picture

Slavery to capitalism carries on in so many insidious ways; appreciate the historical note.

Have a good one.

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magiamma's picture

evening all...

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two years before the Somerset decision. New England, and particularly Boston, was already in unrest and just short of outright rebellion. It wouldn't - and didn't - take much to set off that powderkeg.

Slavery had a lot less to do with it than the entrenched New England tradition of "running our own affairs our own way".

IdPol is a dangerous lens through which to view the past - it tends to distort things.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.