Alpha's Super Tuesday #3 Results Live Blog.
Submitted by Alphalop on Tue, 03/15/2016 - 3:17pm
Hi guys, it's me again.
I will be dropping the results of the various states returns in here and just hanging out chatting as the results come in from today's Primary.
Drop in and join me if you are bored, we usually have a good time. 
Hope to see you in less than an hour!
GO BERNIE!!!! Lets see some UPSETS!!!!
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Closed primary, lots of elderly, and black people voting
w/their leadership?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Exit polls asked about trade
From NBC News:
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
First results from Florida
Florida
DEMOCRATS
Statewide results
1/5,810 precincts (0%) reporting
Hillary Clinton
281
50.2%
Bernie Sanders
230
41.1%
560 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Much closer than I thought so far.
Allthough to be fair it's so early it's meaningless.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
LoL!
TYT just said what I said almost verbatim!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Florida, lol
Statewide results
1/5,810 precincts (0%) reporting
Hillary Clinton
281 50.2%
Bernie Sanders
230 41.1%
560 total votes
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Thought Bernie gave a fair answer to a filibuster.
Yes, he didn't satisfy the questioner, but I'm certain that no other candidate would have even acknowledged the question. Hillary sure as hell would have cut the mike, or had the guy escorted out.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
My prediction
Bernie wins: Illinois and Missouri
Bernie loses: Florida and N.C.
Ohio could go either way.
This is worse than I imagined
It looks like March 15 really is the end of a realistic chance.
Hillary jumps in Florida, Still way early.
Florida
DEMOCRATS
Statewide results
1/5,810 precincts (0%) reporting
Hillary Clinton
43,116
65.1%
Bernie Sanders
21,542
32.5%
66,269 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
On the Republican side.
Statewide results
1/5,810 precincts (0%) reporting
Donald Trump
445
62.3%
Marco Rubio
128
17.9%
Ted Cruz
102
14.3%
John Kasich
27
3.8%
714 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Bernie narrows the gap
Florida
DEMOCRATS
Statewide results
18/5,810 precincts (0.3%) reporting
Hillary Clinton
76,600
59.2%
Bernie Sanders
49,931
38.6%
129,487 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Ceynk calls Ill. for Bernie! ;)
He was being a smartass, but I bet he is also right...
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Want a way to make a long term prediction?
The MSM has screwed with poll results so much they are even outsmarting themselves. A viewer must be aware of what the poll results are showing, what they arent showing, what demographics they are using, etc.
In an OPEN primary anyone can vote. A closed primary a voter needs to be registered with a party. Independents are greatly affected by this.
The bottom line is simple ... Bernie beats all candidates with Independents. Ohio, Illinois and Missouri are open primary states and Bernie should win or show very well. Florida and North Carolina are closed and I expect the MSM to trumpet how Hillary will probably win these states even though the playing field is greatly tilted in her advantage.
Damnit Hillary Knock it off! She closes the gap and picks up
another mostly conservative county
Statewide results
94/5,810 precincts (1.6%) reporting
Hillary Clinton
138,577
62.2%
Bernie Sanders
78,985
35.4%
222,911 total votes
Only 1.6% Reporting and none of the south east coast so no worries yet.
It will close a lot more than that.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Off topic. But this is the first year I have spent the election
somplace other than the GOS.
Kinda liking it to be honest.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
ty for doing it. So so grateful to you. Cannot/ won't
go there. GOS
Don't believe everything you think.
I'm glad you're here
Gives me a place to go! I'm not going back to the GOS.
Twain Disciple
FL at 1.6% map screenshot. could a Floridian tell us where
Bernie is expected to do well? If anywhere!
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I would expect him to do better in the south, mostly on the East
but to be honest, Florida is such a mixed state that leans conservative it is really hard to predict.
People I have spoken to seem to like Bernie in the SW, but I am part of the MMJ activist community as well as a speaker for LEAP so I tend to associate with more liberal minded people
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Florida @ 10% doesn't look good
Hillary 66-31
Bernie can't get blown out S.C.-style. He needs to cut into that and make it respectable.
From LDs DKos site
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/12/inside-bernie-sanders-cam...
comment had this link
great article.
Hope all are well here
reports out of IL are latino votes going for Bernie!
YES!
Uggghh Mini Hillary just made the most obnoxious comment.
"If I want to knock a story off the front page I just change my hair style."
I think that made me dislike her even more, and I didn't think that was possible.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
FL at 5.4% - not looking good - snapshot of Guardian map
Sigh. I had so hoped Bernie would run closer than this. Oh well. Maybe there are better counties still to come.
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NY Times site has 12% - Wrong Candidate up by 30%
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/florida
FL at 12%: Clinton 67-31. Sigh.
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gonna need a lot of the alligator vote
looks like it's Hillary statewide except for some areas that appear to be the Everglades which haven't reported.
First results from NC
Statewide results
3/2,709 precincts (0.1%) reporting
Hillary Clinton
44,386
64.2%
Bernie Sanders
23,457
33.9%
69,142 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Harry Enten finally writes something useful:
From 538
Somehow over all these years I never grasped that distinction.
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looks like all those high information voters like Hills/Trump
it would be wrong for me to call those voters anything else
It's an absolute trend that Hillary fairs better in areas that
Vote conservative in the generals.
Don't get discouraged, we knew he was going to have a hard time in the south, and he is actually doing better than we thought for the most part down here.
The next 3 races are gonna be better for Bernie I think than Florida and NC are likely to be.
Man, I sound like I am cheer-leading, but i'm just verbalizing my stream of thought so take it for what it is.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I agree
I agree the first part of the night and south would be tough.
We need to think about and focus on the long game. My MO is that we will out last them
I'm not down
I'm a bit disappointed in Ohio, but Florida and NC are in Clinton's region and I expected it. Down south it's all Trump/Clinton, all the time. With luck, we can do better elsewhere.
Twain Disciple
Bernie would need to get 57% of the rest of Florida
to offset this large Hillary lead. North Carolina looks as bad. Let's go Midwest!
Bernie is still behind big time but picks up 2 counties in NC
4/2,709 precincts (0.1%) reporting
Hillary Clinton
59,669
62.9%
Bernie Sanders
32,462
34.2%
94,886 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Man I am glad I got you guys here with me tonight...
It would be boring as hell watching this, not to mention the lack of shoulders to cry on.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Yo, live blog crew...
I increased the maximum comment count per page to 300, that's the limit, can't add any more. It looks like this thread is going to go over that easily.
Question: When the comments max out and goes to a second page and you add a new comment does it kick you back to the first page, resulting in you having to go to the bottom of the page and clicking the Page 2 link to get to it? If so, that's a PITA.
I think it stays on page 2 if I remember correctly from last
Time.
If so, it may be better to make it shorter for people that are on mobile pr with slower connections so they don't have to reload as many posts.
I think. To be honest between the Stella Artois and the Banana whatever the hell it was my dealer hooked me up with I am higher than a giraffe's ass right now anyway so don't trust ANYTHING I say...
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Alpha...
if you want to start a second liveblog, I'll FP and sticky it as well, if that will help with the length. It's up to you, my friend.
Ugh, I am almost thinking I should have picked a different live
poll than the Guardian, Mini-Hillary is just as annoying as full size Hillary.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Hey Alpha, new thread plz.
you could call it: Alpha's Super Duper Tuesday #3 Results Live Blog.
I bet JtC would stick it up on Front Page.
Cenk declares Marco Rubio's campaign done for.
Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.-Lucy Parsons
Ohh!
Bernie closed the lead a bit in NC
Statewide results
15/2,709 precincts (0.5%) reporting
Hillary Clinton
93,338
58.7%
Bernie Sanders
60,327
37.9%
159,092 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Brb Friend from Finland showed up with beer
Someone update the results for me for a minute.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
now I'm hoping Bernie can keep the delegates close-ish
so far, so bad. Somehow he's got to come out of tonight with a chance to make up the deficit in the West.
Remember they picked this date because...
It was fully expected to be Hillary's finest point in the campaign.
It's all downhill from here for her.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Ohio, seeing good reports; n/t
FL now called for Clinton
now that the panhandle polls are closed.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
Thanks, Rubio
couldn't win his home primary. I wanted him to so the Repubs can be in chaos and, in a deadlocked convention, choose someone other than Trump or Cruz. At this point I'd rather have "Romney" than Hillary. I don't want to have to burn down the polling place because I have to choose between Trump and Her Ladyship. Especially because we have vote by mail in Oregon and I'd be burning down my dining room.
FL called for Clinton: a 08 vs 16 FL map comparison
Sigh. Here's 08 from 538.
Here's FL 16 from the Guardian moments before it was called - at 47%.
Yikes.
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FL is closing in on 65/35
I was hoping for 20 pts, instead we get 30, in a state with a lot of delegates. Bummer.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
Bernie narrows the lead in NC! I am semi AFK. :)
Statewide results
114/2,709 precincts (4.2%) reporting
Hillary Clinton
184,393
57.8%
Bernie Sanders
124,551
39.0%
319,125 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
NC map screenshot at 4%
From the Guardian
Does anyone know where Bernie's strong counties are? If any.
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this is not good...Missouri numbers starting to come in
but it's still only 5:19! Lots of votes still to be counted
the difference between Dems and Repub voters
let's say the trend continues tonight and the worst happens. Hills can then ignore or insult Bernie and we'll say "F---!#%!!" whereas Trump can ignore and/or insult the other Repub candidates and the Repubs who supported those other candidates will say "yes, sir, Mr. Trump!"
Anyway, I get the feeling that a lot of people are voting for whom they believe will win the nomination. I can't believe this percentage really thinks Hillary is better or that Trump is better. Cape Breton Island, here I come!
You'd love Canada! You'd have everything Bernie's fighting for.
You might have to get out in front of the stampede though
I'll meet you all at the border and we'll share a pint.
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I'm in Maine -
What are the chances that my husband and I can cross the border and become productive residents as a civil engineer/professional Scouter (him) and an admin assistant (me) who has years in state government dealing with conservation law issues? I can't stand the thought of being stuck here under either a Republican or Hillary administration... Damn! Gotta grab another glass of wine before I go back to look at the Guardian results...
Think off-center.
George Carlin
It's important not to imagine
results as necessarily reflecting views of large numbers of people or majorities until you get the actual numbers.
For instance, in SC, Hillary won about 270,000 people's votes. Out of that, came a massive, dominating landslide victory--huge percentages. But that 270K was 12.1% of the electorate. Turnout way down.
Even when turnout is high, you have to check to see if voter suppression or obstruction is underway (often is in the South, and I saw some reports of people being not allowed to vote due to NC's new ID laws).
So the point is, not to imagine that we're looking at a Reagan result when we might be looking at a result of poor turnout, or of corrupt practices, or of 1/2 dozen other things. In fact, we know that a lot of corrupt things ARE going on that have contributed to this result. I could not find a better word to use about the press' behavior for the last six months than "corrupt."
These are not excuses for losing, but a caution to be careful how you interpret the loss. In the US, we usually believe, sometimes despite ourselves, that the will of the people MUST overcome all obstacles, if it's strong enough. Therefore if there's a loss, the people must be against us, or the people must be in some way lacking. This is why I regularly look at candidates' favorables. Hillary and Trump are the most disliked, least trusted candidates in the modern era. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/which-one-do-you-hate-the-least-hillary...
What we have is a two-party system that is, apparently, built to give the people what they least want.
Bernie may or may not be able to overcome that system. If he can't, it's going to be of supreme importance how we interpret that loss.
If we interpret it as devastation, our story ends.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Thanks
There's no question that in Florida, with 97% reporting (at the Guardian), was a big win for Hillary. NC has about 55% reporting and Ohio about 47%. Those leads may be too big to close much. It will be interesting, though, to know about some of the factors you mentioned. What were the turnout numbers? How pervasive was the shut-out of college kids in NC and how honestly will the provisional ballots they voted be counted? Was what happened to Alpha's wife in FL, finding she was shown as unaffiliated when she thought she was registered Dem, an outlier or did that happen to others? I have no problem with giving proper kudos to winners, but when there's the least taint of a rigged game - and this one has reeked of it from the beginning - I'll have to be convinced. Not that they give a rip what I think, but I doubt I'm alone in that.
The smaller the mind the greater the conceit. --Aesop
from gos
goodlittlesquid
Mar 15 · 05:22:27 PM
Nate Silver: “It could be a long night of vote counting in Missouri and Illinois...
The Democratic side is just as close, although with good early news for Sanders. He leads Clinton by 4 points in the Missouri exit poll, and by 3 points in Illinois.”
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Thanks! That's the best news
I've seen this afternoon. Hoping it stays that way ....
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Rubio quits race in a torrent of "God" babble. Good-bye,
Rubio Tuesday.
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Rubio drops out
and nobody noticed.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
OH at 1.5% WTF? Clinton running ahead of exit polls. See map
From the Guardian:
Exit polls had her ahead 53-47% Anyone know where Bernie is strong in OH? I've had zero response on the map questions so far. Is it useless or am I talking to myself, with Alpha off enjoying a Finnish beer?
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sorry...was knocking off a bit of work
It sure looks bad...uh oh...just noticing the "recent comments" with various calls of Ohio
TYT says that the AP just called OH for Clinton. WTF?
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AP just called Ohio for Clinton
but TYTs aren't totally there yet . . .
“There are moments which are not calculable, and cannot be assessed in words; they live on in the solution of memory… ”
― Lawrence Durrell, "Justine"
Damn...
AP apparently just called Ohio for Clinton
Now that's bad.
Let's see if he gets IL and MO.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
The Guardian has OH called for Clinton. We are in deep doo-doo
The delegate math just became insurmountable if the Clinton win in FL and NC are this big and she wins big in OH. Even if Bernie does win IL and MO, it's now a cluster f*ck. In the army, we have a saying that there are only two possible states of being and we just alternate between the two. Things are either SNAFU - the usual catastrophe of daily life, or it slides into FUBAR, which means things are effed up beyond all recognition. If this pattern holds tonight, the Bernie campaign just entered the FUBAR state. I sure hope I'm wrong.
If I'm not talking to myself here, has anyone heard otherwise?
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The FL blowout really hurts
It's not looking good but there's hope that later reporting precincts favour Sanders.
On the current reported numbers, we will have to run up the victory in CA to at least 65% to have a chance.
Margins are the key
rather than state wins but they are looking horrible - nothing good
-Now where's that bottle of wine
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” -Voltaire
Indeed, the margins are bad
we'll see the numbers in the morning.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
wait until it's over
and see what the number are. if not, we have to convince Bernie to run as an Indie. i'd prefer it really.
“There are moments which are not calculable, and cannot be assessed in words; they live on in the solution of memory… ”
― Lawrence Durrell, "Justine"
Read somewhere
that MSNBC are calling Ohio by 30%
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” -Voltaire
MSNBC called Ohio for Hillary
MSNBC called Ohio for Hillary with 12 percent of the precincts. The 30 percent margin isn't the final result.
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
Think it was the
prediction though.
IL and MO are not looking horrible at the moment - if those stay close it may not be the end
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” -Voltaire
the exit polls just are not supporting such a result.
if they had, they would have called the result as soon as the polls closed.
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CNN
now showing about 60/40. Two issues: first, a big win in Ohio would be Clinton's first significant victory outside the South. Second, this is too big a margin in a delegate rich state. What we need to hope for here is to reduce the margin substantially as the vote comes in, say to 5%, then this isn't a disaster. Thirty points would be a disaster.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
Ohio margin
now down to 15.5%.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
2 words: Spring Break.
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I'm still not voting for the b-word in November
should she win the nomination.
I know "b-word" is not allowed in some places but sometimes it's appropriate, as in describing Hillary Clinton or Margaret Thatcher. It's like the way you sometimes have to be glad that a Supreme Court justice got smothered with a pillow by a prostitute. At times like that you need to express yourself, rather than saying "oh tut tut, what about his family? May he rest in peace." I think not!
Why the hell should he rest in peace
given how much harm has been done by his fucked up ideas and the people like him. I agree with you, I hope they planted him in the middle of a red ant hill.
The smaller the mind the greater the conceit. --Aesop
Just kicked in another donation to Bernie -
damnit, I am in this for the long run - I have 4 kids and a grandbaby on the way and I am NOT giving up. Bernie isn't giving up either. I HAVE to go down fighting. And I'm a pacifist...
Think off-center.
George Carlin
ok, I look at this here and then I don't want to see it
Live results from all the states with their cute little men painting the districts.
Is there a chance that what seems to be close now can still change?
https://www.euronews.com/live
I'm out. G'night, folks. It's the Ides of March and the senators
just stabbed Marcus Brutus instead of Caesar. We'll see the extent of the FUBAR tomorrow, but the delegate math is now insurmountable. I would counsel staying away from the GOS after this. Bernie would ocntinue the primary race and have massive influence over the party platform, but that would be it. The joker in the pack is still the FBI investigation, so I would want Bernie in the race until the very end. Independent run later? I wouldn't expect that, but hey, it's 2016 and anything goes.
I attribute Clinton's win to the fear factor. People are generally quick to surrender freedom for security and I think folks got so scared of Drumpf that they ran to the perceived stronger candidate. It generally never ends well, but that's where we are. Until tomorrow.
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Not buying it.
"Math" is not someone saying "the math is insurmountable." "Math" actually involves numbers.
The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.
The revolution
MUST remain alive.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
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