I Will Ask One More God Damned Time: What Fucking Left?
You know, I'm getting fucking tired of the average internet pleb whining about 'the left' or 'pc sjws' hating free speech when such a thing has never existed at any point in Fundie'Murican history.
The only people who ever had freedom were rich, white slave and land owners and not a whole lot has changed since the founding days...except for the fact that some of the slaves were allowed to rise up to the status of Porky for the sole purpose of the preservation of Fundie'Murican Christofascist Capitalism.
Others who stood up to the Capitalist Porkies were assassinated or compromised. And after that, they were twisted into the defense of the very Capitalist system they challenged.
This is just one of many reasons I respect neither the McResistance nor the 'Alt'-Right. Neither stand up for anything meaningful and never will. One group just wants to preserve the shitty system as it is without Drumpfkopf in charge of it, and the other group wants to drag us back to the 1500s kicking and screaming, except with an atheist, 'Culturally Christian' flavor to it.
Maybe we should just let both stupid groups kill each other and let The Force sort it out. After all, we have no voice. We have no resources. No infrastructure to deliver any meaningful transformative message or any other way to stop the Porkies from manipulating the plebs into killing each other over stupid, meaningless shit.
Maybe I sould cynical or downright hateful, but comment sections in videos such as this one give me no hope for the future. We're fucked no matter which group 'wins'.
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Way to rant!
Good one Aspie!
I want a Pony!
The ‘left’ received the equivalent of a fatal bullet
to the brain with the election of Bill Clinton. Unfortunately for the poor victim, it didn’t die right away. It lingered in a coma until 2016 and then it finally passed into the great beyond.
What you see now are just opportunists trying to strip us of out rights and personal assets while they commence ginning up wars that they expect us and our children to fight for their benefactor’s benefit..
There hasn’t been a viable ‘left’ since the 90s.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Re: What left?
The Death of the Liberal Class
Few are guilty, but all are responsible.”
― Abraham Joshua Heschel, The Prophets
Wow
In an insane world, sanity is now radical.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
We're fucked no matter which group 'wins'
So true. The system is set up so that the only winners are the rich assholes you speak about. Everyone else can go to hell. They already sent the Blacks to hell, now they are coming for the rest of us, because the only color that matters is green.
Well done is better than well said-Ben Franklin
How odd you should mention that...
I just posted a quick story on exactly that... in photographic evidence form... slice and dicable by region, income bracket, etc. Yes, you are exactly correct and it's quite visible in those photos. The only color that matters is green. It turns out that statement is true globally. I could walk into any house in the world that was in my income bracket and feel right at home. What feels "foreign" is both lower and higher income brackets.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
We think
Another big problem is that a system of
government that depended on the participation of the PEOPLE has been transformed into a scam where elected office has become a lifetime ‘career’ position for those who can ‘service’ the wealthy in the ways that they believe they DESERVE to be serviced.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Waking up sucks
Hi Aspie, I wish there was another way to awaken to the nightmare of the American Systems, and social orders. I am however to have yet another brother in arms. I see the 1% as the parasites that they are, and you are right, they have always maintained control, and have shifted away from what used to make America Great to shithole status ever since the first President who removed instead of reinforced FDR policies took office.
Having said that, Reagan initiated the rolling death we are seeing now, and yes, Clinton was the Republican in Democrat clothing that ended it all and we saw the end of the actual "Left" in the democratic party. The history has repeated even though history showed how bad the "gilded age" they have returned us to was for the nation as a whole, and how the Versailles court was for France, the truth is, we cannot support a "Wealthy" or Parasite class as they suck the life out of what they are living off of.
Sadly this all dates back to the 1930s when they were going to use mercenaries to kill or depose FDR and eliminate his policies that helped float the earlier generations to the greatness we see leaving here. After the General blew the whistle on them they had to work out another plan, rather than being thankful that they were not arrested and imprisoned for treason(which they should have been!)
They funded their views to think tanks, foundations, institutes and so called universities who then formulated plans and how to make those plans sway the population to looking at the 1% fondly as they got tricked into thinking that they too could become of the Parasite class and enjoy that life-style.
Oh how well this plan actually worked, it was a long game, and for the early years of it, pretty low key and sneaky, getting bolder and bolder, and even their plans were enacted by the Democratic Politicians who wanted that billionaire buck. Getting rid of the actual left from the political scene in politics was their final coup to finalize their take over end game, and now we are living in it as they strip our social programs to siphon that money to them, or their MIC corporations fattening at the tax trough to wage wars of acquisition of resources from poorer nations incapable of fighting back against the Empire as our troops are used as "Storm Troopers" to squash any rebellion against the Imperial resource grabs from our nation.
Anyone who thinks we still have a representative democratic republic in this country needs to wake up and realize you now live in the Corporatist States of Oligarchia.
So long, and thanks for all the fish
Who's job was it to accomplish this?
"Getting rid of the actual left from the political scene in politics was their final coup to finalize their take over end game"
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Oh yes, Obama was a final nail
So long, and thanks for all the fish
Here are some of the tweets that were part of Russian propaganda
You decide if any of them would help you decide who to vote for.
ToP is all over David Brok and his use of trolls to attack anyone who says anything bad about him, but again they don't see their hypocrisy on this after they defended Her use of the same thing when she used Correct the Record. No diary on Doug Jones voting to help Trump spy on us. Or Pelosi, DiFi and the 63 other democrats that voted for the FISA bill, or voted against the one that would have reined it in.
The left left that site during the Ides of March. Now it's full of admitted centrists.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
the left left ToP
And moved here, by the Grace of Cat (and JtC)!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
I was one of the exiled.
It was the right decision, that's for sure. I think I've been back there two times, maybe three, since I left after Bernie got hosed. Each time, it was because of a C99er's diary or post that was linked here.
I don't miss ToP, but I do miss what it was. I won't forget how it helped me get through G. W. Bush's second term. It's a shame that it is now a shell of its former self.
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
pc sjws
One tiny tweak, Aspie:
The 'pc sjws' exist -- and they're no more the left than I'm Leah Remini!
Around here, this kind of injustice collector is known as a practitioner of identity politics, and these actually deserve all the oppobrium that they get as "pc sjws". Please consider just a few lines from the list I linked:
Now compare that description with life under the "pc sjws" (example: Daily Kos). Much the same, is it not?
The fact remains: Until the entire sub-collegiate working class is happy and prosperous, nobody's going to be happy or prosperous. The last time we made actual progress on any social issues was when labor was doing well -- something that went completely away by 1980 when "conservatism" became the watchword of the day.
And until the entire American nation comes to terms with those facts, we'll remain jammed up where we are now. The genuine American Left, dispersed and small in numbers as we may be, knows this.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
If you ask me...
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
McResistance and Alt-Wrong
Dingdingdingdingding!! Give that Aspie a Marijuana!
(I live in Colorado! I can say that!)
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
You're right
I was thinking last night about how it should be time to stop
thinking about the democratic party as a left wing, liberal political party. The actions of that party since the end of the Vietnam war do not support such a label. It's really just a charade to make people think there are two different philosophies but that's all fake. This latest act using DACA as the dividing point shows how they use this divide to maintain the illusion that the two parties are left and right. It really is all an act.
The real left so far has been too meek in accepting this system.
The only thing I can think of that divides this country more than this two party system is the office of the president itself.
One party
So long, and thanks for all the fish
Yup
Yep.
“No Coke, Pepsi!”
“No Pepsi, Coke!”
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Neither!
So long, and thanks for all the fish
better off
We were better off when Coke used cocaine for that purpose (1886 - 1906)
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
I do not believe that anyone here
The political system in this country is lost. The people have zero power via the political system. Perhaps they may have some power in smaller local elections, but the PTB are taking over those too.
To be honest, I have lost any hope for real change within this country.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
The meme bears repeating
...because it never fails to reflect reality:
In the long term, the Democratic Party will remain the center-right Party that it is. Anybody to the Left of Netanyahu (which is the majority of Americans including the Millennials) will have to take deliberate steps to build a loyal opposition Party so they have a voice in their own futures.
During the 2012 elections, this is where the Center-Right Democratic Party was positioned in the full scale political spectrum. This is how US politics appears to most foreign observers.
This is a US election that defies logic and brings the nation closer towards a one-party state masquerading as a two-party state.
The Democratic incumbent has surrounded himself with conservative advisors and key figures — many from previous administrations, and an unprecedented number from the Trilateral Commission. He also appointed a former Monsanto executive as Senior Advisor to the FDA. He has extended Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, presided over a spiralling rich-poor gap and sacrificed further American jobs with recent free trade deals. Trade union rights have also eroded under his watch. He has expanded Bush defence spending, droned civilians, failed to close Guantanamo, supported the NDAA which effectively legalises martial law, allowed drilling and adopted a soft-touch position towards the banks that is to the right of European Conservative leaders. Taking office during the financial meltdown, Obama appointed its principal architects to top economic positions.
A more detailed analysis can be found at The New Political Compass.
(h/t Cassiodorus)
Carry a burning candle and share the light.
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I see the ‘Democratic Party’ as just
A bunch of greedy, selfish, and corrupt toadies to the wealthy. It’s a gang of cheating incompetents. The ham-fisted way they tried to steal the election is embarrassing. From the beginning we knew what they were doing.
I don’t care who runs on the ‘left’. If they’re being promoted by the DNC, screw ‘em. Particularly Sanders.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
There may not be a "Left"....
...but there are quite a lot of people on the left, possibly even a sizable majority according to some polls if you go issue by issue. The big problem is that they are disorganized, atomized and thus largely voiceless in the current political landscape where we have two big political parties, run by two competing factions of the plutocracy which nonetheless are in agreement on, if little else, the continuation of the plutocracy and its neoliberal project.
Occupy threatened to break that (and did manage to nudge the national conversation to the left), but was done in by external repression (organized nationally by the Democratic Party) and internal grandstanding and lack of attention to its own original principles.
The Sanders presidential campaign likewise opened up discussion of left politics, but after its inevitable failure was unable to move beyond the usual dead-end electoral solutions. Sanders himself is still out there, pointing out the many failures of capitalism, but still stuck on the short-term pseudo-solution of voting for this or that candidate rather than creating a large grassroots movement independent of parties.
So, no "Left" until we get organized.
It seems the left has become the new silent majority.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
The Silent
I do believe that the majority of the American electorate
...stands to the Left of the elected government on an issue-by-issue basis.
That being said, I believe I stand to the Left of everyone I know.
Carry a burning candle and share the light.
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Most of what's left
of The Left can be found right here on C99.
Locally, the Dem party here calls me "the lone liberal" which, sadly, is mostly true. I suspect most here are in the same boat in their particular neck of the woods.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Do we need a word to describe us?
I guess that makes it easier if we can group everyone together under 1 little word, say "left". I think it's pretty clear that a majority of people are not assholes and we have to deal the few who are and who, maybe not coincidentally, are rich and powerful.
Beware the bullshit factories.