Monday Open Thread; Today is Martin Luther King Jr. Day

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 5:00am

January 15 is the 15th day of the year, there are 350 days left **
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Today's number is 15

15 is the product of 2 primes, 3 and 5
15 is the magic number for a 3 by 3 magic square
15 is phosphorus
15 balls are used in eight ball and rotation pocket billiards
There are 15 tokens on each side at the start of backgammon
15 is the age when a hispanic girl has a quinceanera
A 15 puzzle has 15 blocks numbered 1 through 15 in a 4 by 4 box
15 is a repeating digit, or repdigit, in binary; 1111

15 is Bumfit

And, of course, 15 is f

Title 15 of the US Code is COMMERCE AND TRADE

15 BCE
was the Year of the consulship of Drusus and Piso
Drusus built the via Claudia Augustus through Italy
Vienna became a Roman frontier city
Future Roman general Germanicus was born
Future Roman poet Phaedrus was born

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15 CE
was the Year of the consulship of Caesar and Flaccus
Germanicus launched a two-pronged attack from Vetera and Moguntiacum. On his return journey, he recaptured the Eagle of Legion XIX, visited the battlefield of the Teutoburg Wald, and then arranged for the burial of the remains of Varus' army. (Yes, that damn Varus!)
Nicolaus of Damascus wrote a biography of the Emperor Augustus
The Greek philosopher Apollonius of Tyana was born

On this day in:

1559 – The coronation of Elizabeth I of England went down
1759 – The British Museum opened
1818 – David Brewster's paper on doubly refracting crystals was read to the Royal Society
1908 – The first Greek-letter sorority for African American college women was founded (Alpha Kappa Alpha)
1919 – Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht were murdered by the Freikorps
1919 – Great Molasses Flood: A flood wave of molasses raged through Boston
1943 – The Pentagon was dedicated creating a vast, permanent hole in the US budget
1966 – The First Nigerian Republic was overthrown by a coup
1969 – The USSR launched Soyuz 5
2001 – Wikipedia went online

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Born this day in:

1623 – Algernon Sidney, philosopher
1908 – Edward Teller, physicist, fanatical H-bomb proponent
1909 – Gene Krupa, drummer
1929 – Earl Hooker, guitarist
1929 – Martin Luther King, Jr., minister and activist
1941 – Captain Beefheart, singer, songwriter and musician
1948 – Ronnie Van Zant, singer and songwriter

Died this day in:

1964 – Jack Teagarden, singer, songwriter and trombonist
1994 – Harry Nilsson, singer and songwriter
1996 – Les Baxter, pianist and composer
1998 – Junior Wells, harmonica player, singer and songwriter
2003 – Doris Fisher, singer and songwriter

Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days and such:
Martin Luther King Jr. Day

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So, for music,
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Gene Krupa

Earl Hooker

Captain Beefheart

Ronnie Van Zandt

Jack Teagarden

Harry Nilsson

Les Baxter

Junior Wells

Doris Fisher

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Bonus Earl Hooker & Junior Wells:

picture is By Dick DeMarsico, World Telegram staff photographer [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

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Submitted by Arrow on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 6:16am

Morning EL and all

Drusus and Piso, I think they were all wet.

Ronnie Van Zandt - celebrated being a white southern racist redneck(lord knows I can't change)
We booed him mercilessly from the front row when they played second bill to the Who. If 'southern man' doesn't want Neil Young around any how, they just don't care to come to grips with their history. /end Van Zandt rant

The rest are great...thanks!

MLK completely deserves our remembrance and our continued struggle for peace and justice he championed.

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I want a Pony!

Submitted by TheOtherMaven on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 7:25am

Funny, I always thought Gene Krupa

@Arrow
looked like Elisha Cook Jr., due to Cook playing a quasi-Krupa-like character in one of his films. Hollywood fools ya again!

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 10:04am

Heh. Good morning, Arrow. Yeah, it irked me a bit to put up

@Arrow
the RVZ video, especially with no snide commentary. Look at that video - that's Oakland, CA, 510, or Oaktown as she is called. Lily white crowd, Confederate flag behind the stage. Massively not representative of the local populace.

So, they answered Neil Young, and good old Warren answered them -

Thanks for dropping by and have a good one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by hecate on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 12:11pm

they have

@Arrow
updated the "Alabama" song:

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgR65lMndgg]

Submitted by eyo on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 1:00pm

Laying to Rest the "Feud Myth" Once and for All

@Arrow just fyi.
Ronnie and Neil: http://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org/2010/02/ronnie-and-neil-laying-to-rest-feud.html

Thanks to Neil Young, Lynyrd Skynyrd was inspired to write the song "Sweet Home Alabama".

Without Young's songs that were so critical of the South's segregationist and racist attitudes for inspiration, it is doubtful that the band would have produced a song with such a long lasting duration that continues to sell well 30 years after its release.

But the ultimate irony of "Sweet Home Alabama" is that for so many, the song's implied put down of Neil Young was NOT meant as criticism but as support of Young's anti-racism. Thus, for those who think it's so clever to put down Neil Young using the phrase "Hope Neil Young will remember, a southern man don't need him around anyhow" little do they realize that they have the meaning backwards. Every day, someone blogs or tweets the "Neil Young putdown" without comprehending that they've actually praised him. Similarly, with the State of Alabama using the phrase "Sweet Home Alabama" as an official slogan on license plates, one truly has to wonder what they were thinking the song was about.

Somewhere, Ronnie is still having a good laugh at Alabama officials and Neil Young bashers. Such is the duality of the southern thing.

Lynyrd Skynyrd band history documentary
Edited from embed to link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ik3RcKQm8
I have been dreaming about Birmingham ever since someone here asked "did you ever think about moving?", it is the strangest thing. Oh, Alabama. Bruce Berry was a working man.

I remember those times vividly. Neil and Ronnie are brothers in my heart. peace
P.S. It was Eugene McCarthy who informed me of their plane crash. He was speaking at the College of Marin that evening and the fact that he stopped his lecture, and gave his respect to the band and their fans, that left a mark.

Richmond Young, Eugene McCarthy, GG Ferry

Submitted by Arrow on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 12:34pm

My Bad

@eyo @eyo That really was too subtle for my ears back then. Trouble is it is way too 'dog whistle'
to WSRR's that flocked to the band as 'fans'.

Saying it means the opposite is sorta lame too, even if Neil bought the excuse.

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I want a Pony!

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 3:57pm

I have always questioned that narrative that the band and some

@eyo
of its supporters put out, even though Young did buy off on it. It rests largely on
"In Birmingham they love the Gov'nor, boo-hoo-hoo
Now we all did what we could do"

Nothiong about racism, let alone about it being a bad thing. Major nopology for Alabama and its fans and supporters. They didn't "love the governor" they were racists through and through and acted it out 24-7. The "boo-hoo-hoo" in every recording that I've every heard is clearly snark or sarcasm (to the extent that they are different things).

They all did what they could do? Which was what? Exactly nothing at best, and act out their rabid racism on average.

Look at that video - that's not in Mississippi or Alabama, but in the Bay Area, so what the hell is with the ginormous Confederate flag? Simple, they continued to pander to their racist followers everywhere and every time they performed.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by eyo on Tue, 01/16/2018 - 1:36am

I was at that show

@enhydra lutris there were few Days on the Green I didn't attend, lucky me. I don't remember racism, it was a big party. When The Who toured, people flew Union Jacks ~shrug~. I thought it was working class solidarity but it was just racism.

Thanks for rewriting history today y'all, I really needed it. Another hole in the head.

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Tue, 01/16/2018 - 10:13am

Um, British band = Union Jack, ok. Rush gets Canadian flag,

@eyo
Clancy Brothers Irish, fine. So thee folks must be from the Confederate States of America, which were all about what, grits? How does one contrive to get an all white crowd, some waving confederate flags, at the Oakland Coliseum? By supporting animal rights, maybe? Perhaps peace?

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by eyo on Tue, 01/16/2018 - 12:26pm

86% whitey in the 70s that's how

@enhydra lutris I just realized not everyone has been here as long as I have. It has changed a lot in my view, I actually love the diversity but not the poverty. Looks like the Ds can't walk and chew gum at the same time, doesn't it? Just invite a few million people here, and don't build any housing. Also, never raise wages because "look at all the jobs". omg dumb.

http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/counties/SanFranciscoCounty70.htm
Edit: Oops I think we were even whiter if I click the right page and look at whole Bay Area. Wow.

RACE
White 3,998,436 86.4%

http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/bayarea70.htm
These where the bands, I am not trying to defend anybody. Mea culpa.
Day On The Green #4 & 5: Peter Frampton, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Santana, Outlaws (July 2 & 4, 1977).

peace

Submitted by Lookout on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 8:03am

fifteen

...is also a community in Ohio. According to wiki.... A variant name is Fifteen Mile. The community was so named on account of its location, 15 miles (24 km) from Marietta. A post office called Fifteen was established in 1872, and remained in operation until 1918.

Also, the Jacobite rising of 1715 is sometimes called "the fifteen". Seems religion is the cause of many if not most war.

Amazing what you can find on the innertubes...

https://www.alternet.org/4-ways-martin-luther-king-was-more-radical-you-...

I hope you all have a nice holiday!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 10:11am

Good morning, Lookout. Those parts of King's legacy are

@Lookout
kept buried because they are a threat to the northern oligarchs and their system.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by QMS on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 8:55am

Thanks for the Booglarize EL

In honor of MLK, a couple quotes on class warfare...

Surely, in the history of lies told to the population, this is the biggest lie. In the history of secrets, withheld from the American people, this is the biggest secret: that there are classes with different interests in this country. To ignore that--not to know that the history of our country is a history of slaveowner against slave, landlord against tenant, corporation against worker, rich against poor--is to render us helpless before all the lesser lies told to us by people in power.
Howard Zinn

The effect of the (European Central Bank) policies is to weaken the welfare state measures and to reduce the power of labor. That's class war. It's fine for the banks, for financial institutions, but terrible for the population.
Noam Chomsky

I see in the future a crisis approaching that fills me with anxiety. As a result of the war, corporations have become enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow. The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its rule by preying upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is concentrated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed.
Abraham Lincoln

As to a possible counterattack...

In Norway, for example, workers formed a new “oppositional” party, separate from the existing ones controlled by the oligarchs. The new party established its owns newspapers as well since the oligarchs owned the media too. There were strikes and mass actions, but ultimately the workers’ party won by running on a platform that emphasized jobs for all, as well as universal healthcare, free education and pensions for retired workers, all paid for by significant tax increases on the very wealthy. There were no “poverty programs,” vulnerable to cutting by the oligarchy. Basic economic rights were established for each and every citizen, and it became the basis for the culture of the entire society, as well as the source of Nordic pride. George Lakey

SOS

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question everything

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 10:13am

Good morning, QMS, great quotes, especially the Lakey. Thanks.

@QMS

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by QMS on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 11:01am

feels like

@enhydra lutris we are being Booglarized by the billionaires

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question everything

Submitted by jbob on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 9:22am

Jan 15, 2009 "Brace for impact"

The Miracle on the Hudson plane landing occurred.

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 10:16am

Good morning, jbob. Thanks for the addition. Cynic that I am,

@jbob
I always figured that the miracle wasn't the landing, but the fact that they got timely assistance.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by eyo on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 9:22am

Our Revolution brings New Shimmer

Is it dessert topping, or floor wax? You decide:

youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAxeeGFwSJw
Progressive BEATS BIG OIL! Now Running For Lt. Governor-Gayle McLaughlin
The Jimmy Dore Show

--- gag me with a spoon
Twelve years inside California D machine turns every living thing in to a walking talking speaking matrix. I'm sure she sounds quite inspiring to many people, being so well connected now. good luck

Saturday Night Live Transcripts: Shimmer

Husband: I haven't even touched my pudding and I'm ready for more!
Wife: But what about black heel marks?
Spokesman: Dirt, grime, even black heel marks, wipe clean with a damp mop.
[ Husband accidentally sprays Shimmer onto the floor ]
Husband: Oh, sorry, honey, I'll clean that up!
Wife: Oh, no problem, sweetheart, not with new Shimmer!
[ Spokesman laughs continuously as he approaches the camera ]
Spokesman: New Shimmer, for the greatest shine you ever tasted!

meet the new shimmer, same as the old shimmer
keep pushing the boulder uphill
let it flatten you again why not
enjoy life
lucky you

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 10:25am

Good morning, eyo. Thanks for the video. I haven't had time to

@eyo
watch the full thing yet, but do recall many minor wins and progress in Richmond. We shall see what comes of this latest move though the position, iirc, lacks any real clout.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by eyo on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 11:40am

Richmond homeless

@enhydra lutris that is the first thing I search when someone claims "progress" or "good economy" anywhere.
This not progress: http://richmondconfidential.org/tag/homelessness/

If fact the search phrase works all over the world, it is a global crisis. Just type the name of any city and "homeless facts", boom there it is. Now is the phase where I try to adjust, to surrender completely. There are already too many people and a permanent homeless population is the accepted norm. I can't get that low, I have no tribe. Is there a tribe that puts basic needs first? I don't know. It must be tiny.

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 2:08pm

Ah yes, the whole country has reached a crisis state with

@eyo
respect to homelessness and related issues. Whenever I hear of a place lacking homeless and homeless "problems" I find myself certain that they have taken steps and passed measures to drive them out and make the area unliveable for them.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by The Aspie Corner on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 10:52am

It's a damn shame how MLK has been bastardized.

Most people don't understand what he and others fought for beyond 'civil rights'. And those who do are deliberately kept out of public discourse, lest the plebs figure out just how badly the porkies are fucking them in the ass.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 12:35pm

Morning, Aspie. Thanks for reading. MLK is in the perfectly odd

@The Aspie Corner
position of being simultaneously co-opted by some, hidden by others, and dismissed and/or quashed by yet others. Maybe, if we ever overcome racism the rest of his message can be heard, but overcoming racism might very well require the rest of his message to be heard first.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by eyo on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 5:29pm

Mapping How The Opioid Epidemic Sparked An HIV Outbreak

Sounds like "we have a cure for HIV/AIDS".
http://kzyx.org/post/mapping-how-opioid-epidemic-sparked-hiv-outbreak

"This is an instrumental tool for bringing new infections down to zero," says John Brooks, senior medical advisor at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Division of HIV/AIDS Prevention. "We have the tools, in terms of treatment reducing transmission to nearly zero. We have prevention... and now we know how to find people."

Today is a good day to observe how long is the arc of history and how bendy is it, for realz? I can't stop thinking about my brother, his name was Richmond, and he died in 1995. I was not his caregiver, but I was his sister so I know too much about the healthcare issues gay men and others experience.
I remember when tracking people with HIV was a big political no-no, nothing could be worse. Now, everything can be known about a person right down to their molecules, their genes. It sounds like AI for good, not evil but I don't know.

Thanks for bumfit and "Yeah, I find as I get older I immature with age." No kidding. hamster

Parental Advisory Explicit Lyrics
Eddie Murphy - Boogie In Your Butt
Edited: replaced embed with link again, because youtube really does suck largely, bigly. It has gone full Tipper Gore and that does it, I'm outta here! LOL

Submitted by QMS on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 4:43pm

quoting rear admiral Horace Hockshitter

@eyo @eyo this is war on an anal level. We can not let up until the enemy is us, or ours as the case may be~~~

To growing younger every day...

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question everything

Submitted by eyo on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 5:40pm

Clearly I am not Monday material

@QMS Alas! The morality marchers must continue on without me. I'd rather go out laughing than melting in line with the rest as the world burns. Contrary to the end, it used to drive my bro crazy. I miss arguing with him, a lot.

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 01/15/2018 - 6:47pm

I seriously doubt that morality means whatever they think it

@eyo @eyo
does. I consider that specific precisely chosen terminology, out of the myriads of possible choices, to be a specific disinvitation to me and my ilk.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by eyo on Tue, 01/16/2018 - 1:54am

But who wants to be divided

@enhydra lutris like a flat worm in science class? I'd rather not grow another head. So, how about "setting their tail on fire" with a follow-on parade, carnival style? Iko iko why not. heh Just an idea.

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Tue, 01/16/2018 - 10:06am

I like it, especially Iko Iko.

@eyo

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --