MSNBC: Hey, let's steal Afghanistan's wealth

I already hated Rachel Maddow, and Jimmy Dore just gave me another reason.

And let's not forget the reaction by a WashPo editor.

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PS It's a shame Trump's father didn't pull out at the critical moment.

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@LaFeminista Damned near spit water all over the computer, good one!

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

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@LaFeminista

and historically he liked following my instincts, but all of his life he heard that decisions are much different when you screw behind the desk in a high rise office.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

@Not Henry Kissinger

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@LaFeminista

ran down his mamas leg.

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I woke up this morning determined to drink less, eat right, and exercise.
But that was four hours ago when I was younger and full of hope.

Makes me really glad I've turned off the boob tube for any "news" now. As for that mineral wealth paying for America's wars, please. Some private Corporation will make a killing while the US taxpayer goes under water, once again. I hate all of them.

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

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@lizzyh7 I loathe them.

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"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey

Oxford English Dictionary. Must be Americanese.

Wink

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Yes, she's a puppet for the big boys. Yes, she has compromised every liberal/progressive principle that she (might have) held. But she's rolling in dollars!!

As Sweet Dee said in IASIP "My name's Dee and the joke's on me us."

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"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey

@Hillbilly Dem

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Not a single diary on the rec'd list, front page, or in recent diaries about Afghanistan.

I guess the marching orders from the DNC was "STFU about the war thing."

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@gjohnsit

. . . they're not quite the hypocrites at the Orange Satan that they were between 2008 and 2016. Now war is a-okay, no matter which administration is doing it. A twofer if the victims are brown people who can't be claimed as the American Democratic Party's base.

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Releasing mineral wealth - substantial mineral wealth - will be taken out of Afghanistan in order for us to get our fair share! We're already getting our fair share of their heroin, amiright?

Our oligarchs can do whatever they want - IN OUR NAME! - this is why we need to participate - we need to be active - WTF??????????????

If we are going to be there for SEVERAL DECADES! we need to push for our youth to stay OUT OF THE MILITARY!!!!!!!!!

I'm appalled!!!!!!!!!!!!

Someone talk me down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

@Raggedy Ann oxygen I need.

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@LaFeminista
I'm gasping for air!!!

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

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@Raggedy Ann

Our oligarchs can do whatever they want - IN OUR NAME! - this is why we need to participate - we need to be active - WTF??????????????

Please, please tell me how to get the warmongers out of power without resort to violence!

We're in this stew today because in the Western world, change comes via either the ballot or the bullet. And in recent years, the ballot has failed us utterly (thanks, Rachel Maddow!).

If we are going to be there for SEVERAL DECADES! we need to push for our youth to stay OUT OF THE MILITARY!!!!!!!!!

This! Indeed!

Diablo

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@thanatokephaloides
violence. The oligarchs aren't about to let anything go without a fight!

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

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@thanatokephaloides  
if they do end up working for the military or the Deep State, a whistleblower is one of the most honorable and heroic things one can be nowadays.

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@Raggedy Ann link

If you haven’t watched Trump’s Afghanistan speech by now you really should. It’s not good enough to read anyone else’s summary, you need to hear it for yourselves. It’s only 25 minutes long.

As I started listening, I sensed myself getting angry. It was the same empty, bullshit propaganda I’ve been hearing from U.S. Presidents my entire life. This broken record of disingenuous has become simply unbearable, and even worse, I know it’s going to work on millions upon millions of Americans. We refuse to think for ourselves, and we refuse to admit the obvious. There will be hell to pay for this ignorance and denial.

Trump begins by explaining to the American public why he made a flip-flop that would make Barack Obama blush. He claims there are three conclusions he came to as a result of his grand introspection and wisdom. Let’s tackle the absurdity of each of them one by one.
...
Then towards the end of the speech, Trump says the following:

In every generation we have faced down evil, and we have always prevailed. We prevailed because we know who we are and what we are fighting for.

Unfortunately, here’s the cold hard truth: We have no idea who we are, and we have no idea what we are fighting for. We’ve become the very evil he claims to be fighting against as the nation morphed into a pernicious, destructive, and immoral empire. This is the heart of the problem — we are constantly lying to ourselves.

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@gjohnsit
but it's also just plain common sense.

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@gjohnsit
this also stood out to me:

Here’s another prediction. Watch the corporate media start to lay off Trump a bit more going forward. Rather than hysterically demonize him for every little thing, corporate media will increasingly give him more of the benefit of the doubt. After all, a Presidency run by Goldman Sachs and generals is exactly what they like. Trump finally came out of the closet as the anti-populist oligarch he is, and the results won’t be pretty.

We'll see what happens.

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

@gjohnsit

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

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@gjohnsit

We’ve become the very evil he claims to be fighting against as the nation morphed into a pernicious, destructive, and immoral empire. This is the heart of the problem — we are constantly lying to ourselves

This is what this country has been since its beginning.
The Native Americans know this as do Blacks and other minority groups. Japanese Americans learned this during WWII as have many other minority groups.
This country has long lived on the illusion that we are the home of the brave and that we are free.
We've been slaughtering people in other countries since the Monroe doctrine was signed.

As others have asked, what will it take for the rest of Americans to realize this?
And since this country is running out of countries to pillage, TPTB have turned their attention to this country and the stars have aligned for republicans to be in control of all 3 branches of government and they are getting ready to transfer more money to their masters and they are going to take it from the most vulnerable of us.
The middle class will be up next.
I wonder what Ben Franklin would have to say about this?, Sorry Ben, we couldn't keep it.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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will cheer our troops and throw flowers to them.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

@earthling1 make everyone feel better.

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Who knew?

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

@dervish
to be too progressive when you're raking in about $20K per day in salary. I mean, Rachel's not your everyday working stiff. There's absolutely nothing about her that's the least bit Deplorable, so all she has to do is mind her Ps and Qs, and the world's her oyster, so to speak.

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Azazello's picture

I don't watch "liberal" MSNBC. I refuse to pay for TV. But back around the end of June I was on the road for a week staying in hotels and I watched a few minutes of MSNBC. I noticed that they were running an ad for Northrup Grumman's new bomber, the B-21. Why, you might wonder, would Northrup Grumman pay to run such an ad ? It's not like the average viewer is in the market for a new-and-improved billion-dollar stealth bomber. The war profiteers run ads like that on all the networks, including PBS, because that ad spending gives the MIC control over the content of all the "news" shows. It really is that simple.

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We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

@Azazello

In much the same manner as the billions spent on electoral advertising in the corporate media keeps it sweet and pumping out the propaganda...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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More specifically the Rare Earth Elements.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining_in_Afghanistan

It's why the Chinese have been there for over a decade as they pursue a global hegemony of rare earth stuff. REE needed to make all that really neat hi tech computer/phone/etc stuff. If Apple had cajones, the Chinese has been squeezing them.

Now if only those pesky Taliban would stop bombing the mines, the people who work them, the roads needed to transport the booty to someplace you can get it out of the hell forsaken country, everything would be just fine.

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Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!

Firesign Theater

Stop the War!

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@EdMass

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@dance you monster

Shai-hulud!

He is the Kwisatz Haderach!

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Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!

Firesign Theater

Stop the War!

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Sounds like a plan.

/s

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

@Bollox Ref

If I may rephrase?

"Release the minerals to the Afghani's who so desperately need their own freaking resources and wealth to repair what's been done to their country/societies - and step back with your greedy hands up, ready to get the hell out of the invasion business."

Ok, so I dream a lot... sometimes dreams are good and comforting things, unlike reality.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.