Stop Trump!

Submitted by Cassiodorus on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 10:58am

My phone company calls itself CREDO, which I keep because they're nice folks. But CREDO persists in imagining itself to be "political," so in my email they send me this:

Stop Trump from starting a nuclear war

The substance of it is as follows:

Fortunately, Sen. Ed Markey and Rep. Ted Lieu have now introduced legislation – the Restricting the First Use of Nuclear Weapons Act – that would limit Trump’s ability to launch nuclear weapons without an act of Congress.

Now isn't that special! Two Democrats, in a House full of Republicans (oh and don't forget what a great party they are in the state legislatures!), are going to save us from immediate threats of nuclear war. With legislative proposals!

Meanwhile on Facebook Jeffrey St. Clair reminds us:

Let's not forget that it was the Peace Prize Prez who armed Trump with a new generation of "Fire and Fury" nuclear weapons...

And just after the election last year we were reminded:

They Always Wanted Trump

The piece is about, well...

Team Clinton’s year-long struggle to find a strategy against the opponent they were most eager to face.

What's the old saying: beware what you want, you might get it? Edward Luttwak predicted:

the Trump dynasty will last sixteen years

But the Democrats have a plan! They're going to support "moderate" Republicans.

Can you see at this point why I'm uninterested in electoral politics? I've been posting all of these links for your amusement, really, because here's the scoop: it's not as if the Democrats are "cowardly" or "money-hungry" or "centrist" or "crazy" or whatever else they've been called here at C99%. Rather, it's that there is an opposition in American politics at the Federal level in the most fake, public-relations sense. The Democrats are in fact Republicans with different stylistic programming. If they "stop Trump," they'll do so because they want President Pence or something a bit more relaxed.

Wake me up when there's a viable party I can support.

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Submitted by boriscleto on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 11:55am

They are"moderate" Republicans

But the Democrats have a plan! They're going to support "moderate" Republicans.

What is it going to take to get the majority of Americans to realize the "two" parties only exist to give them the illusion of choice?

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" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "

Submitted by chuckvw on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 12:17pm

I fear that

only some huge (probably horrific) event, or series of events can give rise to real change now. It's impossible to predict how that change will look.

August 1914 comes more and more to mind. We are being governed by fools of that magnitude.

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You should only listen to both sides when one side isn't totally full of shit. -Jim Jefferies

Submitted by Ellen North on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 5:09pm

@chuckvw

@chuckvw

If nothing so far qualifies, I hate to imagine what would be horrific enough to get Joe Average to act...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by Cassiodorus on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 6:13pm

I want to know --

@Ellen North what sort of non-Demopublican, non-Republicrat political party would be sufficient to get Joe Average to act.

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The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.

Submitted by Ellen North on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 6:50pm

@Cassiodorus

@Cassiodorus

If there was one such party, I feel fairly certain that we could be assured that votes for it would not be counted... but I do think that Bernie could do it, or at least, despite everything, win a fair election (should one be possible) in order to help from there in informing and mobilizing the population, which, as Bernie has always said, is where the impetus for change must come. In a united groundswell for democracy and survival, within a civilized community.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by ggersh on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 12:49pm

we now live under a

government of the MIC/CIA/DOD, by the CORPS
for the OLIGARCHS.

But maybe Lincoln got it wrong in that it does
perish from this Earth

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

Submitted by detroitmechworks on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 1:15pm

Time to burn my SIN

And pray the awakening happens soon, because I sure as hell ain't getting chromed. (Shadowrun joke)

Watch out for extraterritoriality laws, which exist already in actuality. (Dapl proved that)

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

Submitted by HenryAWallace on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 1:44pm

And here I thought stopping Trump was the job of the DNC.

Democrats also said running more Blue Dogs will help them take back the House.

Quick, what's the difference between an anti-choice Blue Dog and a "moderate" Republican?

Submitted by native on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 2:05pm

Different colored bumper stickers?

@HenryAWallace
No, wait. One drives a Prius and the other drives a Suburban?

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native

Submitted by HenryAWallace on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 3:32pm

Lipstick? No, that was a pit bull and a hockey mom.

@native

I think the blues are always feeling guilty and being careful to choose exactly the right words so as not to give offense, while the reds are more in your face and seem incapable of feeling guilt. At least that seems to be the case on message boards.

Submitted by Dr. John Carpenter on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 5:42pm

Her bumper stickers accounted for that.

@native A big old letter H and a right pointing arrow, originally in red. Because when I think Democratic Party, I think red and right...well, I do anymore.

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

Submitted by Meteor Man on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 2:00pm

Stop Pelosi!

And Schumer and Feinstein (84 years young) and Rahm and ditto and ditto and ditto!

Because "Blue Dog Centrism" is Trump Lite. Fuk em all.

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"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn

Submitted by dkmich on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 2:30pm

Blow it up/burn it down

If we can survive Trump for 4, we can survive 8.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

Submitted by native on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 4:25pm

Andrew Bacevich

writes up a keenly perceptive analysis of the post Cold War era, in relation to Trump and the three Presidents just prior to Trump. Excerpts from his lengthy essay:

The three presidents of the post-Cold-War era — Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama — put these several propositions to the test. Politics-as-theater requires us to pretend that our 42nd, 43rd, and 44th presidents differed in fundamental ways. In practice, however, their similarities greatly outweighed any of those differences. Taken together, the administrations over which they presided collaborated in pursuing a common agenda, each intent on proving that the post-Cold-War consensus could work in the face of mounting evidence to the contrary....

...The emphasis on diversity and multiculturalism improved the status of groups long subjected to discrimination. Yet these advances have done remarkably little to reduce the alienation and despair pervading a society suffering from epidemics of chronic substance abuse, morbid obesity, teen suicide, and similar afflictions. Throw in the world’s highest incarceration rate, a seemingly endless appetite for porn, urban school systems mired in permanent crisis, and mass shootings that occur with metronomic regularity, and what you have is something other than the profile of a healthy society.

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native

Submitted by native on Thu, 08/10/2017 - 4:29pm