Team Trump's Brilliant New Idea For Afghanistan: A Mercenary Army
Remember back in 2001, when we first invaded Afghanistan our enemy was just one terrorist group - al-Qaeda? Those were the good old days, because now there are 20 terrorist groups in Afghanistan. Twenty!
Afghan Security and Defense departments on Sunday said 20 regional and international terrorist groups are fighting against the Afghan government and warned they are trying to expand their activities by establishing big military bases in the region.
President Ashraf Ghani has repeatedly said 20 terrorist groups are in the country.
If the number of terrorist groups multiply 20 times over, then you are doing it wrong.
Fortunately, Donald Trump is president now and he's gonna win this war for us.
How will he do that, you ask?
First of all, he's going to bomb the sh*t out of Afghanistan, because no one has ever done that before.
As of June 30, U.S. and coalition aircraft had dropped or expended 1,634 munitions in Afghanistan so far this year, according to U.S. Air Force numbers. By comparison, in 2015 and 2016, that figure was 298 and 545 respectively.
This, of course, is killing a whole bunch of civilians, but if you want to break an omelette, yadda, yadda.
Gen. Dowlat Waziri, a Defense Ministry spokesman, blamed the high toll on the insurgents' use of human shields.
However, Trump and his crew are outside-the-box thinkers.
The true brilliance of the Trump Administration is on display with what can only be described as Blackwater 2.0.
The United States should hire a mercenary army to “fix” Afghanistan, a country where we’ve been at war since 2001, spending billions along the way. The big idea here is that they could extricate U.S. soldiers from this quagmire, and somehow solve it.
Not surprisingly, the private-military industry is behind this proposal. Erik D. Prince, a founder of the private military company Blackwater Worldwide, and Stephen A. Feinberg, a billionaire financier who owns the giant military contractor DynCorp International, each see a role for themselves in this future. Their proposal was offered at the request of Steve Bannon, President Donald Trump’s chief strategist, and Jared Kushner, his senior adviser and son-in-law, according to people briefed on the conversations.
I know what you are thinking, "That's the greatest idea I've ever heard!"
But wait! It gets even better.
In a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed, Prince laid out a plan whereby the fighting force would be led by an American viceroy who would report directly to Trump. Modeled after General Douglas MacArthur, who ruled Japan after World War II, the viceroy would consolidate all American power in a single person. His mission: Do whatever it takes to pacify Afghanistan. No more backseat driving of the war from pesky bureaucrats in Washington, or restrictive rules of engagement imposed on soldiers. An American viceroy with a privatized fighting force would make trains run on time in Afghanistan—if they had trains.
Who would this viceroy be? Probably Prince had himself in mind, and that should worry everyone.
OH YEAH, BABY!
How could you not love this idea!?!
Mercenary army. No rules of engagement. An effin-viceroy, just like the British Empire. What's not to like?
In his Journal op-ed, he wrote that the British East India Company should be the model for U.S. operations in Afghanistan. This private company was the instrument of British colonization of India for centuries, led by a viceroy with monarchical powers and a private army to rule the natives. Prince’s solution for Afghanistan amounts to neo-colonialism.
British East India Company as a model of neocolonialism. Brilliant! It's not like Afghanis would remember that.
This has success written all over it.
Bannon went to the Pentagon to push for it with Kushner's backing, so this is being seriously considered. Sebastian Gorka, Trump’s deputy assistant for national-security affairs, also seemed to endorse it.
Fortunately Defense Secretary Jim Mattis is against it.
Comments
The Mosul Massacre
40,000
Remind me again, who are the real terrorists?
"stupid is as stupid does"
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
How Many ISIS Fighters in Mosul? That 40,000 Civilians
seems larger than the number of Terrorists expelled.
Am I off on that?
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
No possible way this idea can fail...
Oh wait...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNb6SxXcD7g]
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
One of my favorite movies of all time
The Final Solution to Afghanistan.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
perhaps
perhaps Eric and sister Betsy have a little wager on who can privatize the biggest chunk of government in a year. that could explain a lot.
bygorry
Just think
Some of those "terrorists" are probably still using Enfield rifles great granddad took off of British soldiers at the kyber Pass.
Nope...nothing can go wrong here.
I want a Pony!
In the early days after the Soviet invasion
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
Freedom fighters, my ass.
Even the word freedom fighter sounds weird. Instead of sounding like someone who fights for freedom, it sounds like someone who fights the very concept of freedom. Ironically, many of these radical Islamist groups hate freedom because it allows people the freedom to ignore whatever batshit religious doctrine they want to pound into the populace.
Remember the training camp pictures they used to show us
Men in the desert on monkey bars training to become terrorists. LoL. I fell for it the first time I saw the pictures.
The article you linked to on Mattis being against this idea is a great read.
5 companies own most of the outsourced private intelligence agencies.
But their goals aren't to get rich,
that's just a side bonus.
I remember going to Hill air force base with my uncle who was a retired Lt. Colonel and seeing the respect from the soldier who checked his ID. The last time I was there, a private mercenary was at the check in booth and his condescension was very palpable.
Awe good ole Dick Cheney, how he served his country in the time of need, right?
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Yesser
Because historically mercenaries saved people money.
It's those libtard historians who say the opposite is true.
Since they've privatized
as much as they already have, why not go that final step? Jesus. We not only act like the Great Satan but we're arrogantly proud of that fact too, aren't "we?" Just sick.
And you just know that will require a huge "defense" spending increase, those guys aren't going to work for what we pay our troops, no way, no how.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Couldn't we save a shit ton of money
by just pulling the hell outta there and lining our coasts with carrier groups?
Hey, the sailors would get frequent shore leave. Win/win. Think of the savings on fuel. Bombs. Missiles. Caskets.
Win/win/win/win.
/s
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
This was what Smedley Butler advised
But our wars aren't fought for our protection or to spread freedom and democracy to other countries. This is why the soldiers are dying and have been for every war since the revolutionary war two centuries ago.
It's too bad that many Americans aren't aware of this. They actually tell people that members of their families fought and died so people could have the freedom to speak their minds.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Now that's just not fair.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
sailors
And just think: when on shore leave, those sailors would spend money like, well, the proverbial sailors! And they'd be spending it here! Win/win/win/win/win! /snark
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
You know what would make this even better? Pallets of cash!
Then you don't have to wait for Congress to appropriate the money you need to get stuff done. What could possibly go wrong?
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Losing track of the pallets. That is what can go wrong
How convenient for him that a
missileplane hit the area of the pentagon where those files were. I'm sure that there was no other backup files kept somewhere else. Nope,just one computer had the record about the missing money.There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
I remember, but Teh Donald probably doesn't. We just
keep making the same mistakes over and over like a modern-day Sisyphus. Welcome to hell.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Where are you getting this information?
There are many links on the $2.3 trillion loss
Here's one article about this;
Rumsfeld, 9/11 and $2.3 trillion
Pluto posted the link to the article on $6.5 trillion loss
This is only one of many videos of Rumsfeld saying that the pentagon lost track of $2.3 trillion. On the link to the video below, there are many other videos on this YouTube page as well as other issues that are about 9/11 and building 7 that many people believe shows how 9/11 was a false flag event and that this happened so that neocons could implement their plan for invading, destroying countries that Israel wants overthrown so that they are the only remaining superpower in the Middle East.
This site had a discussion about this event. This site allows people to say what they believe without people starting pie fights.
When I went back to the search page results, I found this link to an article that links to daily kos about why no one asks Rumsfeld where the $2.3 trillion is.
Why doesn't anyone ask Rumsfeld where the 2.3 TRILLION went?
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
The Pentagon announced it could not find $6.5 trillion
...last August. And yet it still refuses to do an audit. They've never done an audit. There is no oversight by the temporary elected government. They don't have that kind of power or clearance. That budget has always been under Deep State authority and control.
I remember when Rumsfeld announced that loss. First time I ever heard of it. The Pentagon has bled the American people dry. One more round of cutting taxes and raising defense spending will bring crushing cuts in social support, huge austerity, gun violence, and massive incarceration. The poors will perish. Another way to make America great again, I suppose. People should try to emigrate. A few nations are offering a right of return to the American colonists.
IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
right of return
Which ones?
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Italy, Ireland off the top of my head.
They call it different things, but it means one of your grandparents (or parents) emigrated to the US. Sometimes it must be the male line, sometimes the female. It helps if they were not naturalized. Sometimes knowing the language is required. In most cases, working with an attorney in that country is the best way to go.
IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
From his diary he posted on DK about the $2.3 trillion
There were a lot of other great comments and discussions on the missing amount money. Highly recommend that people read his diary.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
I kinda want to see this happen.
I want to watch this clusterfuck unfold.
Meanwhile, Barbara Lee wants to know why Ryan removed AUMF rules
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngA79tu4Sd0]
Beware the bullshit factories.
The only good part of this scheme...
is that there will be a lot fewer mercenaries running around after it's all said and done.
EVERYBODY will be looking to take a shot at these guys.
They'll get slaughtered.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Upon further consideration...
One way this scheme makes sense is if the mercs will be used as garrison troops at stong points to cover the withdrawl of regular Army soldiers.
In this sense if we are replacing US troops with mercs in the Afghanistan hell hole that's also probably a good thing.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Pay the Mercs in Bitcoin
They'll be ordering online anyway.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
The US military will go right back in once a couple of merc's
bodies are dragged through the streets and strung up from a bridge girder.
My SOL is an Army pilot
He doesn't think Mattis would ever go for using mercenaries. Mattis is big on training up the Afghans do do their own fighting and supporting them while they figure out how to do that. That's the only real solution, but I doubt they can attract enough real soldiers who aren't afraid of having their families killed while they fight. It's going to be a long haul, and I don't see us leaving, no matter who's in the White House, anytime soon.
It's just my opinion. It can't hurt you
Vietnamization was never successful. We finally just got
the hell out of there. I don't see Afghanistan going any better.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Looking backwards
That's what the Russians finally did. They simply packed up and left, deciding that the best view of Afghanistan was in the rear-view mirror. They were right, too.
Funny now to think we (USA) tried to sucker them into their own Vietnam. Who's the sucker now?
we just learned slower this time.
Learned?
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
you got me.
Where are some sensible
Warmongers like Rumsfeld and Cheney when you need them.
They are backing the democrats again
Even though Her didn't win, the neocons have made their roosts in the Democratic Party.
Just another song on the album Same Shit, Different Day.................
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Just more privatization ...
The Neoliberal project marches on. There's economic gain in this for profiteers, but privatization of government functions is never cheaper for the people. Worse than that, the shift to a more overtly mercenary army marks one more step towards feudalism. Neoliberal policies are fundamentally anti-government because government might lead to democracy. A society without government is a feudal society.
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
Does no one try to imagine...
what it would be like to be born in Afghanistan?
What would you do?
Your experience is likely continual invasion and violence by powers bent on taking what little you have.
And..capitalist mercenaries are going to fix all of this.
Yeah. Right.
I'll be OK with it if Viceroy Prince is on the front line.
He can wave a sword about.
And even wear a pith helmet.
Just as long as he's there.
Hell, he should bring his sister too.
Oh great, we have to depend on Mattis to stop this?
Guess he will be the next one to leave or be pushed out?
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
They'll have to push Mattis
He's not a quitter
It's just my opinion. It can't hurt you
Then we'll all have to watch
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
My comments.
1. When will the US learn the lessons of Vietnam, or, for that matter, of the American Revolution?
As we all learned in school or by watching Turn: Washington's Spies, the Redcoats, then the world's most formidable military, did great at fighting old school and in formation. However, they were at a loss when fighting on the enemy's home court against a military open to guerilla fighting in a variety of ways--and the Redcoats even spoke the same language and semi-shared a culture with the enemy. We kicked ass with traditional warring in World War I and World War II, with and against Europeans, though we certainly suffered our share of casualties and wounded. Not so much when we messed in with South Korea v. North Korea or South Vietnam v. North Vietnam. Oh, and, for some reason, we really, really stink at winning hearts and minds of the peoples we bomb and shoot. Go figure! Our only course is not to mix in to begin with or to declare victory (or defeat--I'm not fussy) at our earliest opportunity and leave, but we never seem to get that.
2. Dembots and/or Obamabots love to remember that Obama spoke against the war in Iraq in 2002, when he had no vote in the matter, but forget that he didn't want to leave Iraq and actually ran in 2008 on surging in Afghanistan. (Well, what did you think he meant when he said we had taken our eye off the ball in Afghanistan? I had no clue precisely which ball in Afghanistan he thought our eye should have remained on--still don't--but I got that he thought surging was a great idea. Of course, by 2012, it was clear we were in forever war and forever expanding war, no matter what he said.)
3. How do we always have more money for more war, but none for things like health care? (Captain Obvious told me to ask that.)
They don't call it
the graveyard of empires for nothing.
native
BTW
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_Truman%27s_relief_of_General_Dou...
Personally, I would LOVE to see
Jared Kushner become a viceroy in Afghanistan. Taking bets now, on how long he would last.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X