Democrats are now the party on the right

...at least when it comes to foreign policy.
Except for ageing progressives, Democrats have abandoned progressive foreign policies.

When a prominent Washington peace activist was asked recently to name the leading anti-interventionists in the Senate, he responded, “Rand Paul and Mike Lee,” both Republicans. Democrats are in the midst of a furious struggle over what they stand for and who is included in their coalition, yet on foreign policy questions, their silence is deafening...
The Democratic establishment’s record on foreign policy has been disastrous. Most Democratic leaders supported the war of choice in Iraq, the largest foreign policy debacle since Vietnam. They cheered the “humanitarian intervention” in Libya that has ended in the humanitarian horror of a ruined country, racked by violent conflicts, where the Islamic State is consolidating a backup caliphate. They applauded President Barack Obama’s surge in Afghanistan even as that war dragged on year after year. They touted the United States as the “indispensable nation,” demonstrating a predilection for military intervention and regime change that rivals that of Republican neoconservatives. Many considered Obama too weak and too wary of intervention, despite the fact that he left office bombing seven nations, dispatching Special Operations forces to more than 120 countries and calling for increased spending on a military that already consumes nearly 40 percent of the world’s military budget.

The latest evidence of this shift in the left-right paradigm happened Thursday.

No one was more surprised than Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) on Thursday when her language revoking the administration's war authority was unexpectedly backed by Republicans and added to a must-pass defense spending bill.
“Whoa,” Lee wrote on Twitter following a voice vote that pushed through her amendment to sunset the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF).
Lee’s measure, which prompted applause when it was adopted in the House Appropriations defense bill, would revoke the AUMF eight months after the passing of the defense act, forcing Congress to vote on a new law in the interim.

As even congressional members pointed out, kids are dying in Afghanistan that were in elementary school when the 2001 AUMF was passed.

Kay Granger (R-Texas) was the lone lawmaker to oppose the amendment.

If this was the only example then it wouldn't mean much, but it isn't the only example.
Consider the question that The Nation asks:  Why Does the US Continue to Arm Terrorists in Syria?
Tulsi Gabbard has proposed H.R.608 - Stop Arming Terrorists Act. A common sense, slam-dunk for Democrats, right?
It has only 14 cosponsors.
If you look closely, 8 of those 14 are Republicans.

What was the Democrats reaction to Gabbard's opposition to supporting terrorists in Syria?

Then there is Trump's bombing of a Syrian airfield in April, and the overwhelming liberal Democratic support.
Basically the Democrats are at least as bad as Republicans, if not worse.

Beyond their support for the Syrian airstrike, top Democrats have disappointing records on issues of war and peace. Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer is a leading supporter of Israel, despite its illegal occupation of Palestinian territory. Democratic House leader Nancy Pelosi also has a history of hawkishness in the Middle East, as documented by the Institute for Policy Studies. And Hillary Clinton, the Democratic standard bearer in the 2016 presidential election, promoted militaristic solutions to international issues as Secretary of State, as well as during her campaign for President.
Even Democrats like Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders have failed to articulate a progressive foreign policy. During his presidential campaign, Sanders’s main foreign policy talking point was his vote against the war in Iraq. While he was less hawkish overall than Clinton, Sanders didn’t rule out continuing Obama’s drone program that has killed thousands of civilians.
Medea Benjamin, co-founder of the women-led peace group CODEPINK, tells The Progressive that Democrats “have a foreign policy message that is pretty much a continuation of what George Bush had and Obama followed. It’s hard for them to challenge Donald Trump because they have a vision that’s quite similar. I think that the Democrats are really a war party, just like the Republicans are.”
...“The Democrats are never going to lead the progressive movement,” Bennis says. “The movements lead and demand of the Democratic Party that if they want support from the most mobilized, most conscious, and most committed component of their base, they damn well better include a progressive foreign policy vision.”

Obviously there are exceptions, like Lee and Gabbard, and the polls show that Dem voters are more progressive than Repub voters, but the Democratic Party doesn't represent its members anymore.

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mimi's picture

totally messed up world in USAland's parties's landscape. Just can't believe it.

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chuckvw's picture

@mimi You mean Howard "The Hack Lobbyist" Dean...

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You should only listen to both sides when one side isn't totally full of shit. -Jim Jefferies

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@chuckvw
all the worse. Have the urge to take my cowboy hat, a lasso, my horse and throw something around the Yee Haw man.
FEB. 4, 2016 AT 11:03 AM - The Dean Scream: What Really Happened
So what is a disgrace here. What is not propaganda in this video?
Sigh.

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@mimi

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Lookout's picture

Weapons are our bread and butter. Our violence (and ignorance) promotes our profit. Sadly we are as addicted to war as we are fossil fuels

There's a more important connection which is being driven by the arms industry who are very disappointed actually with the Trump administration. If you read the defense press that caters to the arms manufacturers, the arms manufacturers thought that $54 billion was not nearly enough. That he had promised ... He being Trump, had promised the arms industry a massive increase in expenditure. They're saying this $54 billion Trump proposed was only something like only 2% more than Obama was going to do anyway. Congress, already the Armed Services Committee is talking about another $10 billion, $15 billion on top of the 54.

http://therealnews.com/t2/story:19448:Real-News-Roundtable%3A-The-Russia...

And Sy Hersh had to publish his piece about T-rump's missile attack in Germany because they don't even want people to know what an evil war we created and are waging...

Some American military and intelligence officials were especially distressed by the president's determination to ignore the evidence. "None of this makes any sense," one officer told colleagues upon learning of the decision to bomb. "We KNOW that there was no chemical attack ... the Russians are furious. Claiming we have the real intel and know the truth ... I guess it didn't matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump.“

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article165905578/Trump-s-Red-Line.html

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=767&...

When will someone stand up and call out America as war mongers and profiteers....
oh yeah most people and countries around the world feel that way. We just don't hear or read it in the states.

Thanks gjohn for keeping us informed!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

earthling1's picture

@Lookout q
War is our rulers bread and butter. Our rulers violence and ignorance promotes their profit. Sadly, they are as addicted to war as we are to fossil fuels.
I'm sorry, but keep me out of this.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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@Lookout

Weapons are our bread and butter. Our violence (and ignorance) promotes our profit. Sadly we are as addicted to war as we are fossil fuels.

We? I don't think so.

The 0.1%, most of whom wouldn't recognize an honest day's work if it bit their genitals clean off, sure. But ordinary working class Americans' only relationship with forever war is to do the dying and suffer the maiming. And, of course, to pay all those profits from our hard-earned money.

And our fossil fuel addiction is now being addressed, albeit far more slowly than it should be. And that slowness and reluctance goes right back to the same people who are making all the profits from violence, weapons and war.

When will someone stand up and call out America as war mongers and profiteers....
oh yeah most people and countries around the world feel that way. .

Most Americans feel that way as well, but the micro-minority who profit from forever war are the same class of Americans who own our mainstream media; hence, "We just don't hear or read it in the states."

But "we" are not the same as those who benefit from the forever wars. The 99% only are hurt by them. We suffer, die, and pay, so they (the 1%) can profit.

Bad

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@thanatokephaloides Those young Afghani girls who won't be here, they have known nothing but war on their soil their entire lives. Thanks to us not being able to back out without loss of face.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

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@riverlover

Those young Afghani girls who won't be here, they have known nothing but war on their soil their entire lives. Thanks to us not being able to back out without loss of face.

You're "preaching to the choir" here, riverlover. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

What I want to know is this: where's the "off switch" that we, the 99%, can use to turn the forever wars off. As I noted in this Comment:

Protesting (and by this I mean Occupy, not Hillary Clinton's phoney-baloney nonsense) didn't work. Voting didn't work. Traditional channels of activism (petitions, GOTV, etc.) didn't work. "Working locally" didn't work.

And civil disobedience isn't working worth shit either -- ask those who acted against the Dakota Access Pipeline if you don't believe me!

The fact is and remains: "we" who supposedly own and control the US Government are in reality just as much a set of victims of these wars as those poor Afghan girls of whom you speak. Those Afghan girls have never known peace; unless you're over 80 years of age, neither have we. Our blood and treasure -- the 99% of Americans -- pay for wars so that our 1%er profiteers can save face.

In both cases, the latter -- the war profiteers -- are our enemies, and the enemies of all humankind.

"All your private property is target for your enemy;
And your enemy is we!"

-- Jefferson Airplane

[video:https://youtu.be/cxA3Q96a8XE]

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@thanatokephaloides in the sense that some are taking it. This "we" in this context means our government and the ass hats in control of it.

"We" people who make up this website are against most of the things "they" do.

Breathe people.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

thanatokephaloides's picture

@snoopydawg

I'm pretty sure that Lookout didn't actually mean "WE" in the sense that some are taking it. This "we" in this context means our government and the ass hats in control of it.

"We" people who make up this website are against most of the things "they" do.

In like wise, I am more than "pretty sure" -- I am certain -- that Lookout realizes we're supporting her original points.

If there ever was any doubt about that, let this settle said doubts. We are in solidarity with Lookout, both in the realizations of the evils of forever war, and in the bitter disgust thereat as well.

My apologies if I came off as some sort of "grammar Nazi". Such was the last thing on my mind! I just know that if the ordinary working-class American people had any real say or any real information about this forever war crap, there wouldn't be the forever war crap.

And that's something I'm certain Lookout, you, and I alike are fully behind!

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Pluto's Republic's picture

@thanatokephaloides

Why would they show up and vote for any US President?

By doing so, they condemn the nation and themselves to civilization based on savagery. By doing so, they confirm the legitimacy of the US war doctrine and they support its continued existence as the greatest threat to world peace. These voters breathe life into the US policy of international murder and mayhem in front of the entire world.

Anyone who votes for a US president, who is always a tool of war, is a "We."

A vote for Bernie Sanders may have yielded a few nice trinkets domestically — but would still turned a savage face onto the world it was destroying.

A positive counter would be to boycott the vote and let the world know that the US was occupied by an illegitimate government against the will of the American people. But US voters do not do that; they do not demonstrate any moral compass at all.

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chuckvw's picture

really have it out for Gabbard. I'm pretty sure they will drop someone in with plenty of $$$ to primary her.

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You should only listen to both sides when one side isn't totally full of shit. -Jim Jefferies

@chuckvw The NeoDems are waging total war on anyone, big or small, who the cosidet a threat to their continuing reign of error within the Democratic Party. All their blather against purity tests and for a big tent and the need to be practical are just lies useful to maintaining their death grip on the party.

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I've seen it happen time after time. When the Democratic candidate allows himself to be put on the defensive and starts apologizing for the New Deal and the fair Deal, and says he really doesn't believe in them, he is sure to lose. The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don't want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign.

But when a Democratic candidate goes out and explains what the New Deal and fair Deal really are--when he stands up like a man and puts the issues before the people--then Democrats can win, even in places where they have never won before. It has been proven time and again.

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War is the answer for how to be the "superpower" in the world and why not use same approach at home?

Naomi Klein wrote her book on the Shock Doctrine years ago and now has a new book out

She put up this video recently which should scare the crap out of you.

Our media and politicians and most organizations do not have a crisis management plan to respond to shocks

Naomi Klein: How to Resist Trump's Shock Doctrine

That clip was shown on democracy now which continues with an interview

MY GOODMAN: That video, produced by The Intercept. Their senior correspondent, Naomi Klein, author of the new book, released this week, No Is Not Enough: Resisting Trump’s Shock Politics and Winning the World We Need. Yes, a shock. You’re a specialist in analyzing what happens next, Naomi.

NAOMI KLEIN: Right. And, you know, the reason why I wrote this book very quickly, for me—you know, it usually takes me five years to write a book; I did this in less than five months—is because I really wanted it to come out before any kind of major crisis hits the United States. I mean, lots of people out there see Trump himself as a crisis, and, you know, I would tend to agree, but what really has me scared is what this configuration of characters in the Trump administration—Pence, Bannon, Betsy DeVos, Steve Mnuchin, all these Goldman Sachs alum who are in the Cabinet—how they would respond to a large-scale crisis that they themselves are not creating. I mean, the chaos is chaos they’re generating themselves, either deliberately or out of incompetence and avarice, but what happens if there’s a 2008-like financial crisis? What happens, you know, heaven forbid, if there is a Manchester-like attack in the United States?

The actions of this administration make these types of shocks more likely, not less, right? They’re deregulating the banks, creating the conditions for another crash. They are antagonizing the world, particularly the Muslim world. You know, ISIS apparently called Trump’s Muslim travel ban a "blessed ban," because it was so good for recruitment. They are—you know, they are making climate disasters more likely with everything they’re doing to deregulate industry, deregulate for polluters. You know, there’s a lag time between that and when the climate shocks hit, but the truth is, we’ve already warmed the planet enough that no U.S. president can get through a year, let alone a term, without some sort of major climate-related disaster.

So, how does this group of—this Cabinet of disaster capitalists, is what I call them, Amy, because there is such a track record of taking advantage of crisis, whether we’re looking at the Goldman Sachs—former Goldman Sachs executives and the way they profited from the subprime mortgage crisis to increase their own personal wealth, whether it’s Mike Pence and the central role he played when New Orleans was still underwater to come up with a corporate wish list to push through. So, you know, as disastrous as Trump’s policies have been so far, there’s actually long, toxic to-do lists, things that people around Trump and Trump himself have been—have very openly said they would like to do, but they have actually not been able either to get through without a crisis or they haven’t even tried, right? Think about Trump’s threats to bring back torture. Think about his threats to bring the feds into Chicago. Think about his threats not just to have a Muslim travel ban from specific countries, but not to let Muslims into the country, period.

So I think we do need to prepare for this. And what I tried to do with this video is create a little toolkit of, you know, what I have seen work in other countries, because I have been reporting on shocks and large-scale disasters and how societies respond now for a couple of decades, and I’ve seen some amazing acts of resistance, you know?

video and transcript at democracynow.org

https://www.democracynow.org/2017/6/30/naomi_klein_the_worst_is_yet

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@DonMidwest I intend to listen to that tonight or tomorrow.
Thanks, don.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@DonMidwest thanks here they are in a nutshell, her five step program:

step one: Know what's coming.
step two: Get out of your home and defy the bans.
step three: Know your history.
step four: Always follow the money.
step five: Advance a bold counterplan.

ta da!

peace

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earthling1's picture

Guess who the middle is.
Correct answer wins a week vacation in Washington DC.
Second place wins two weeks vacation in Washington DC.
/s

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

ZimInSeattle's picture

very much along the lines of your post: The Democratic Party’s Deadly Dead-End

I don't think I've read any essay lately that is so spot on.

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020

@ZimInSeattle I just read your link.
Thanks for it, although reading it makes me want to just hide under my bed.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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I live in Tulsi Gabbard's congressional district and can say she has lots of support across the political spectrum here. R's, D's and I's support her foreign policy from the small sample of people I associate with who are politically informed and active. Fortunately, my friends span many ideologies keeping me from falling into a mindset where I have a predetermined ideology from which to place a value judgement on a situation without knowing the context.

Peace

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and no one in the Democratic Party, save a brave few, have any problem with that, when all the the elected officials of that party stoke hatred against a weak country that just happens to still retain ICBMs, when that same party looks askance at anyone demanding we forego our wars in the ME, accusing them of treason for meeting with the head of a foreign country beset by fundamentalist jihadi terrorists who behead our own reporters and support terrorist attacks in Europe, groups that our government and the Saudi's are funding and providing arms, when they pooh pooh airstrikes that kills thousands of innocent civilians, then yes, that party is to the right of the Republican party circa 1950 in terms of its foreign policy and red-baiting.

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"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott

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@Steven D and possibly risking a war with Russia and still her supporters were voting for her anyway. I wonder how many of them voted for Obama instead of her because of her Iraq war vote, but now didn't seem to mind her warmongering. They actually accused us of spreading right wing talking points, when her history showed that she was one. Not too many people had any problem with her when she said that she relied on Kissinger for advice when she was SOS. The war criminal Kissinger got a pass on the GOS. It's mind boggling that her supporters could overlook her bloodthirst for death and destruction. Let's never forget how she reacted after watching Gaddafi's death. Her clapping her hands and cackling with glee over that should have disqualified her for president immediately.

There's a diary on the GOS about how the Trump administration is letting Russia decide what to do with Assad, and the author thinks that this is a bad idea and he places all the deaths and refugees on Assad. The US is apparently blameless for anything that is happening in Syria.

I wonder how many Syrians would be alive today and in their homes if Obama hadn't agreed with the Saudis, Qatar and Israel and decided that he had to be removed from office? As always, our crap doesn't stink.

Let Russia decide

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson told the U.N. Secretary General Antonio Guterres during a private State Department meeting last week that the fate of Syrian leader Bashar Al-Assad now lies in the hands of Russia, and that the Trump administration’s priority is limited to defeating the Islamic State, according to three diplomatic sources familiar with the exchange.

Amazingly, more than half of the comments are in favor of this action.
One comment stood out for its ignorance.

I find it regrettable that on July 4th weekend, any American would want any country other than his own to be the global superpower.

And let’s not forget that President Obama was also wise enough to refrain from increasing US military presence in Syria, to the dismay of many career bureaucrats in the State Department.

President Obama realized that fracking has enabled the US to pivot from the Middle East to Southeast Asia, through which 50% of global commerce passes.

I

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

@Steven D

I'd say 'off the wall', rather than 'to the right' - these destructive 'policies' represent pathology, not anything on a political spectrum, and my personal feeling is that we should quit essentially validating pathology as a legitimate political viewpoint by referring to it as though it is.

Actual conservatives conserve; they do not mindlessly destroy in the hope of personally gaining stolen treasure from the wreckage of the lives/governments/countries of others and that of the world itself.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

ggersh's picture

it's this simple

but the Democratic Party doesn't represent its members anymore.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

@ggersh
because it doesn't need to represent them. Its members have no choice but to vote Democratic, because if they don't, then a Republican gets elected. Essentially they're running species of extortion racket: "Y'all better elect me... or else!"

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@native  
 

via the Hollywood Reporter

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@native

It doesn't represent its members because it doesn't need to represent them. Its members have no choice but to vote Democratic, because if they don't, then a Republican gets elected. Essentially they're running species of extortion racket: "Y'all better elect me... or else!"

Interesting how oftener and oftener these days the (genuine) Republican gets elected anyway.

The racket is dying, along with the racketeers in it. Bad

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

@thanatokephaloides

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@thanatokephaloides

Nineteen Eighty-Four.

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

Many republicans did the following under Obama: support his wars but attack him as an ineffective "CIC". Democrats will do the same. Support any war and then attack Trump as an ineffective CIC. Saw this when Trump lobbed 50+ cruise missiles at Syrian air fields. Democrats including Hillary supported it but then complained not enough dead Russians and destruction--that essentially, Trump blew it.

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U.S. imperialism is actually "interventionism" and the U.S. being the "global policeman". This is the kind of garbage that while pretending to be against more war actually continues and solidifies the lies and false narratives behind U.S. imperialism. It completely ignores what those in control of our government are doing and blames it on "mistakes" and overreach, which is bullshit.

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The worse the Repigs will get.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

@The Aspie Corner Unfortunately that's nothing new, it has been happening for decades. I still maintain that it wasn't the Republicans moving right that pulled the Democrats along, but was actually the Democrats using the Schumer Gambit* that pushed the Republicans to become extreme right. That doesn't absolve the Republicans, but it makes the Democrats equally culpable for the state of American politics.

* “For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.” - Chuck Schumer, 2016

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Ray Pensador's picture

party works for the same people as the Republican establishment: Wall Street and corporate cartels, and the military industrial complex.

The policies of both parties are taking us in the same direction: corporate state fascism.

When it comes to voters, the Republican party manipulates its voter base by appealing to their "sensibilities," whether racism, xenophobia, or religions fundamentalism, in order to manipulate them in voting against their own interests.

Likewise, the Democratic party establishment tries to (superficially) appeal to the sensibilities of liberals, whether we're talking about multiculturalism, LGBTQ rights, "intelligent discourse," and social justice causes, but they stop (way) short of confronting and challenging the real power structures (financial/corporate cartels, and the military industrial complex).

In essence, this Chris Hedges quote perfectly describes this situation:

Corporations write our legislation. They control our systems of information. They manage the political theater of electoral politics and impose our educational curriculum. They have turned the judiciary into one of their wholly owned subsidiaries. They have decimated labor unions and other independent mass organizations, as well as having bought off the Democratic Party, which once defended the rights of workers. With the evisceration of piecemeal and incremental reform—the primary role of liberal, democratic institutions—we are left defenseless against corporate power.

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When you boil it all down, the number one step you can take to get out from under the fascist boot of the oligarchy is to stop subjecting yourself to the the U.S. corporate news media. It is a powerful psyops weapon.

World War I Wilson
World War II Roosevelt
Korean "Police Action" and start of our involvement in Vietnam Truman
Escalation in Vietnam and environs - everyone from Eisenhower through Nixon
Middle East Mess everyone from Eisenhower through Trump, and counting

See also
https://www.democraticunderground.com/12776532
https://caucus99percent.com/comment/277714#comment-277714
https://caucus99percent.com/content/did-obama-draw-red-line-syrian-sand-...

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