The invisible lawsuit, anger, revolution

A friend of mine, with a doctorate and very intelligent, was utterly surprised to learn about the DNC fraud lawsuit. She is quite knowledgeable about economics, science and 20th century world history. She also watches the TV news, winnowing her choice of viewing gradually from the usual suspects down to only Fox News. Is she reactionary? No. Is she Republican? Is she pro-Trump? No. Does she like Medusa? No. She tries to keep abreast of current affairs when she is not busy working and having a life away from politics.

I explained what I could during a brief conversation, which of course was incomplete. I then asked her about the Awan brothers' spy ring and received the answer I expected after learning of her ignorance about the DNC fraud suit. She hadn't a clue. Her husband, also a doctor had not the least bit of knowledge about the Awans; in fact, although he had heard a little about the DNC fraud suit, he had heard or read NOTHING about the Awans.

Now, when two highly educated people, with only passing interest in politics are completely in the dark about two of the most important recent political events in the US, is it any wonder than Jane or John Doe know absolutely nothing? In this progressively dumber country, where 7% of people think chocolate milk comes from brown cows, is that surprising?

People know they are getting screwed; that they are working longer for less money. They do not realize the steady erosion of our freedoms because it concerns mainly the lowest quartile of the population and those who try to maintain knowledge of what's going on. The people have been blinded by purposeful information manipulation and suckered into rampant consumerism, thus making them debt slaves.

Fortunately, some of the population is learning about the alternative media through which means they obtain some semblance of reality. Before there can be a political revolution of the type Bernie wished to start, broader information about the true state of things is essential.

But another type of revolution, which many of us here and elsewhere expect, is a violent revolution. The sparks are flying, such as the shooting of Representative Stephen Scales by an alleged Berniecrat. Anitifa rioting is slowly building and becoming more violent. Meanwhile, Trumpsters are becoming progressively hostile against the perceived Islamification of the US and political correctness in general.

Where are the brakes on this path to violence? Certainly not from Kathy Griffin's faux beheading of Trump ISIS-style. Nor from the pointedly anti-Trump staged rendering of Julius Caesar in NYC. When fatheads like Rosie O'Donnell call for martial law just after the inauguration, sets the scene for slowly growing direct confrontation due to a steep political polarization of people somewhat aware of the political situation.

If Trump is impeached, let alone convicted, you can be certain there will be blood on the streets. Then this country will be balkanized into many incompatible parts. The strains are showing. Red states trying to establish theocracy. Blue states flaunting laws, which while perhaps abhorrent, were legitimately passed by Congress.

Talk about a third major party is becoming increasingly pointless when our "elections" become "selections". The pressure cooker is building up steam.

So, what's the solution? Will it be better education? No, schools are too politicized in one direction or another?

Will it be cleaning the swamp? Too many alligators in it which are corrupt and/or blackmailed. As the saying goes: "when you're up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to concentrate on draining the swamp".

Share
up
0 users have voted.

Comments

MsGrin's picture

I get the feeling we're being revolutioned rather than we're doing it ourselves, but I'm in the sidelines these days.

up
0 users have voted.

'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

Alligator Ed's picture

@MsGrin @MsGrin so we can say we are being revolutioned. Because there are plenty of angry people from coast to coast who are furious about this dysfunctional system that they don't need our presence to start the blood flowing.

up
0 users have voted.

@MsGrin

up
0 users have voted.
lotlizard's picture

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/06/hell-happening-venezuela.html

Can anyone whose name isn’t Rothschild, Rockefeller, Eric Schmidt, Mark Zuckerberg, or Jeff Bezos do anything about it?

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/06/no-wonder-washington-post-become-...
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/06/mainstream-media-represents-views...

A revolution would almost have to arise within the military-spy complex itself.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/06/unifying-force-war-abolition.html

up
0 users have voted.
Alligator Ed's picture

@lotlizard

Those protesting do not represent Venezuela’s vast working-class majority that struggled to overcome the oppressive exclusion they were subjected to during administrations before Chavez. The youth taking to the streets today in Caracas and other cities throughout the country, hiding their faces behind masks and balaclavas, destroying public buildings, vehicles, burning garbage, violently blocking transit and throwing rocks and molotov cocktails at security forces are being driven by extremist right-wing interests from Venezuela’s wealthiest sector. Led by hardline neo-conservatives, Leopoldo Lopez, Henrique Capriles and Maria Corina Machado — who come from three of the wealthiest families in Venezuela, the 1% of the 1% — the protesters seek not to revindicate their basic fundamental rights, or gain access to free health care or education, all of which are guaranteed by the state, thanks to Chavez, but rather are attempting to spiral the country into a state of ungovernability that would justify an international intervention leading to regime change.

(emphasis mine)

This is precisely what is taking place in the US today to place Hillary Clinton on her throne.

up
0 users have voted.

@Alligator Ed Except I was thinking even farther back, like how the "Brooks Brothers riot" was kind of a test run for what could be coming down the pike now.

up
0 users have voted.

Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

@Alligator Ed like in California, the ptb blame it on liberals.

I don't believe for a minute that liberals are behind the destruction and violence here.

up
0 users have voted.

dfarrah

Alligator Ed's picture

@dfarrah I may have mistitled this essay. Perhaps it should be "The invisible lawsuit. anger, civil war".

up
0 users have voted.
Alligator Ed's picture

@lotlizard

up
0 users have voted.
Alligator Ed's picture

@lotlizard

If we don’t create credible democratic independent media, we can’t communicate. Door knocking can’t defeat television. We only know that Cindy Sheehan went to Crawford or Occupyers went to Wall Street because corporate television chose to tell us. Why have elections if we can’t tell the truth about the candidates?
up
0 users have voted.

@Alligator Ed
It's way more effective. People tune out television ads.

up
0 users have voted.

I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

Alligator Ed's picture

@The Voice In the Wilderness

up
0 users have voted.

@Alligator Ed @Alligator Ed @Alligator Ed Volunteers from across the street or at least in the local area (subdivision or neighborhood). Paid professionals aren't nearly as good as talking to your neighbors and co-workers.

The idea is to engage voters that are already somewhat in the circle of trust, evoking primitive us-them connections. But knock off the violent revolution talk! That will just hurt your cause. That was part of Bernie's subconscious appeal, not a wild-eye maniac, just a nice white-haired grandfather. Everyone likes Grandpa, right? Grandpa listens to your problems, gives you candy, intercedes with your parents. Hillary was the wicked hag, screeching at you. Subconscious appeal or subconscious distaste.

EDIT: Changed area to neighborhood as intended.

up
0 users have voted.

I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

Alligator Ed's picture

@The Voice In the Wilderness just take a look at the progressive crescendo of violence, not just verbal. I am not preaching civil war. This has plenty of impetus from elsewhere. Likewise, I will not put whipped cream and a maraschino cherry on top of the progressively malign processes already at play. The Deep State is now coming fact-to-face with Main Street. Trump is doing his best to start WW3, a task many of us thought would have not done. This country is being rent asunder by not only our foreign policy but our internal inequities as well.

up
0 users have voted.
Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@Alligator Ed Actually, I don't think that's right. I remember what the coverage was from corporate for the first 4-6 weeks. Sparse coverage filled with sneering followed by moderate coverage filled with sneering. With a handful of odd dissident voices, like a guy from Bloomberg News, who actually criticized the NY Times' coverage with a comment something like this: The Times talked about how the protesters' laundry smelled. How about the influence Wall St wields over Washington? How does that smell?

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@Alligator Ed What this comment totally misses is that word on Occupy went out over the Internet, and we practically had our own independent national media network, or at least the beginnings of it. You could flip through the encampments' channels online, and if anything serious was happening there, Global Revolution would be there covering it as well; if not, it all depended on whether anybody at the camp was livestreaming at the time. We were close to assembling the bare bones of a truly indie news service at a national level.

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Alligator Ed's picture

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal the dual-tiered internet, even without overt censorship, will diminish the chances of independent views from getting publicity. I am not technically knowledgeable but is it possible to start a parallel internet without hooking into the current one?

up
0 users have voted.
Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@Alligator Ed A long time ago, I knew somebody who I think was working on something like that.

But it's way above my paygrade. I barely understand what has to be done. I hope to gods that somebody out there with a lot of digital knowledge has thought about this, and that there is a way. But doesn't it also come down to hardware, and doesn't the establishment control the hardware?

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

riverlover's picture

wrong one. Hell, I just saw a FB post with a full refrigerator from a food stamper (doubtful) and a nearly empty one for "middle class". The division attacks continue. I hope I am beyond them.

Your example of well-read people unaware of the lawsuits shows the use of news as diversion/distraction. I see examples of that daily. Sorting wheat from the chaff.

up
0 users have voted.

Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

@riverlover Keep people punching down. Make people feel false empowerment by stepping on those worse off than they are. Play up the divisions. Otherwise, the 99% will all realize they have more in common than not and real change might happen.

And by keeping the DNC lawsuit and related issues out of the mainstream media, it goes into the realm of "fake news" for so many people. People can claim they don't trust the media, but I think there's a possibly unintentional bias among people that if they're not talking about it on the evening news or the cable shows, it's some wacko conspiracy theory. MSM still has legitimacy that I think they're long past deserving. They can't make this go away, and they can't silence the alternative media (yet) but they can try to marginalize reporting on this.

up
0 users have voted.

Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

Alligator Ed's picture

@Dr. John Carpenter media, many do not avail themselves of the fake news MSM either. Instead they are beguiled by crap shows like Pawn Stars, House Flippers, Two Fat Ladies cooking and TMZ.

up
0 users have voted.
Pricknick's picture

It was the 48% who didn't know where chocolate milk came from.
Over 200 million in this country lack the basic knowledge that should be apparent in all five year olds.
There will never be a revolution as long as you have such an ignorant populace.
Them has won.

up
0 users have voted.

Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@Pricknick Nah. It's not all down to intelligence.

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Pricknick's picture

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
you can't tell that to Goliath.

up
0 users have voted.

Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@Pricknick This is actually the beginning of a big, interesting conversation, if we both want to have it.

Of course, I started from the assumption that intelligence was incredibly important. I'm a scholar, a strong believer in critical thinking, rationality, logic. But recent political events (since about Dec) on the left have led me to thinking differently.

I think maybe we need to distinguish between many different qualities that we lump together as intelligence.

Frankly, someone who thinks that chocolate milk comes from brown cows is an idiot about that, but might also understand quite well that the CIA is not to be trusted. That person, depending on who they are, at this point could be more likely to resist the current propaganda than an intellectual liberal with a college degree, or even a liberal with a graduate-school education.

There's all kinds of different levels of understanding, and different kinds of intellectual training, and what I'm discovering is that the kind I have is no guarantee that the person in question will actually use the habits of critical thought that they were trained in, and you might be a lot better off with someone more experientially acquainted with the suffering our politics, policies, and economics have inflicted on people. Or sometimes it's something else altogether: people who have just learned, no matter how, to pick up on lies told by the powerful. The stupid belief in a brown chocolate milk cow, as seriously unfortunate as that is, exists independent of the ability to see through the establishment's shit. So, even more unfortunately, does the kind of intelligence we develop through formal education. Apparently, none of that training avails people. They descend into tribalism and irrational argument, become stooges to propaganda--or they maintain intellectual independence--based on something other than education or simple cleverness.

I don't know what that something is.

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

ggersh's picture

up
0 users have voted.

I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

lotlizard's picture

@ggersh  
Question the legitimacy of anything too loudly and authorities will think you’re part of the Reich citizens’ movement or some such.

up
0 users have voted.
Alligator Ed's picture

@lotlizard or burning embers from the third?

up
0 users have voted.
mimi's picture

@Alligator Ed

up
0 users have voted.
lotlizard's picture

@Alligator Ed  
Something about how they want to go back to the Weimar constitution where German citizenship was not a centralized unitary thing — that was supposedly an ahistorical invention of Hitler’s — but rather a status that followed from first being a recognized citizen or subject of one of the German Empire’s member states (Prussia, Bavaria, Saxony, etc.).

Oddly, the most prominent figure I’ve seen who is being accused of, and ostracized for, allegedly sympathizing with the Reich Citizens movement, is a black entertainer named Xavier Nadoo.

up
0 users have voted.
ggersh's picture

@lotlizard we can't act against them but everything else is fair game.

up
0 users have voted.

I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@ggersh This is scary because it's close to where I live, psychologically. And it's not an easy place to live.

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

ggersh's picture

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal can pick at least one thing off the list that
is causing them to suffer. The deterioration of living
standards for the mc is happening at an alarming pace.
Everyone is hurting in many ways, stress here there and
everywhere.

up
0 users have voted.

I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

Big Al's picture

and I know almost nothing about the DNC lawsuit. No idea who Awan is and don't care. I really don't care what they do and believe anything that comes out of it won't help the Serfs in any way. I think it's all a sideshow to distract us from what we really need to do, which is tear down this political system and remove those ruling us from power.

up
0 users have voted.
earthling1's picture

@Big Al
Pretty tall order Big Al.
While I agree with you completely it ain't gonna happen. We're trapped in a regime that is way out in front of us.
Their next move is practically written on the wall. Absolute control and censorship of the last remaining means of communications among the masses.
This internet.
This site will be one of the first to go.
The duopoly are now consolidating their power. On the morning "news" today they report the Democrats are performing a slowdown in response to the Trumpcare bill being done "with a lack of transparency".
They can't call it for what it is, secrecy. They have to soften the language so us plebes don't get excited and think it's not very important.
I see falsehoods and mis-directions like this every day. They have control of the conventional media and the only venue left to take control of is the internet.
I don't know how how to fight this but to dis-invest from all things corporate. It's hard. But I'm learning to sacrifice.
I don't know if I will have any effect whatsoever. But I feel good about doing it. I feel patriotic. Truly.

up
0 users have voted.

Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

Alligator Ed's picture

@earthling1 has been well underway for at least 25 years with media consolidation and CIA involvement in the media. Now Ajit Pai wants to have two internets: one high speed for the well off and the other slower one for the serfs. The slower one will be throttled down so that it becomes slow to the point of uselessness. That will accomplish censorship very efficiently.

up
0 users have voted.
Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@earthling1 Oh, this site won't be one of the first to go. We're too small.

That said, we need to establish IRL connections now. Also, hopefully, IRL connections with other communities, such as the people gathered around Sane Progressive and Cabin Talk and Jamarl Thomas and Glen Ford and even Hard Bastard and Lionel Nation. We might not be able to form a coalition with all these people, but we should at least form a network. We have common interests.

Further, we should reach out to people who are doing work that is not overtly political, but which is highly important: sustainability work, community organizing, etc.

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Creosote.'s picture

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
And the connections need to be bilateral, so Sane Progressive's grit and directness, for example, can be upheld from here and the other sites you mention.
Lessons in fighting for sanity, even just (or first) for one's personal sanity would be a good place to begin.

up
0 users have voted.
Alligator Ed's picture

@Big Al by orders of magnitude. The amount of money and the numbers of illegal connivers is vast. The plotters are prosecutable but will they be prosecuted? This does not change the magnitude of the crime. One immediately foreseeable consequence will be a huge drop in small donor contributions to the DNC and perhaps even to the RNC. However, such a decline could easily be offset by the megadonors who have never been deterred from buying elections.

As far as the Awan brothers, consider this: at least 80 out of 435 Representatives had computers and Blackberries hacked/stolen since at least 2010. This means that almost one in five members exposed their personal documents as well as state secrets to Pakistani criminals. Doubtless, many of these Congresscritters are being actively blackmailed or in danger of becoming so. If the majority of the population becomes aware not only of the greed and corruption in DC, but also the sheer incompetence of so many, it might begin a wholesale replacement. Again that effect, salutary as it could be, will be mitigated by the astounding ignorance of the majority of our population.

But this could be a spark to bring down the current mess in flames. Let us hope so.

up
0 users have voted.
Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@Alligator Ed It's important. It doesn't have to be important to Al, though. There's so much work to be done that it's not necessary that everyone agree that everything everyone is doing is necessary. If that tongue-twister makes sense!

For instance, for those who don't have any interest in these stories, or in anything to do with the establishment, including pushing back on the only war that hasn't been conclusively won by the establishment, which is control of perception, there's a ton of community-building work to be done, a ton of sustainability work to be done, an entire indie media to construct, or at least to network together. Other things that would be good to build: alternative economies, possibly alternative currencies, alternative gathering places, alternative art and music, regular food-sharing (which is trickier than it sounds). There's so much work to be done that everybody can find a place they like doing something they think is important.

Participation in the main two parties, attempts to reform them, and pleading with politicians to create good new policies, are pretty much the only three things that are, IMO, actively not in the interest of this community. I think those within-the-system movements are, at best, time sinks and labor sinks and faith sinks, that take people's resources and squander them. However, even though that's so, I still don't think I have the right to tell people not to do it. I do tend to come on and disagree when people publish essays in favor of such strategies, but I'd never take it on myself to tell them they must stop doing that. It's their choice.

So I guess what I'm saying is that everybody should work where they want to, how they want to. There's so much work to do, potentially, that everybody has the freedom to work where they most want to.

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Alligator Ed's picture

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Participation in the main two parties, attempts to reform them, and pleading with politicians to create good new policies, are pretty much the only three things that are, IMO, actively not in the interest of this community. I think those within-the-system movements are, at best, time sinks and labor sinks and faith sinks, that take people's resources and squander them.

I certainly don't have answers but almost certainly neither duopolistic megalith can be reformed from within. I have felt that way ever since Bernie was robbed. The selection was made before the race began. So much for the illusion of free choice.

As I have noted here,c99 is a university where the students obtain advanced knowledge of the world around them politically, economically, socially

What students at this university do with that education is entirely up to them. Personally, I am not good at telephone calls or door knocking, which I have learned from experience. But I am reasonably good at written communication as are many others here. No fault redounds to those who are passive, which is a common reaction. But if some of us can shed light into the surrounding political darkness perhaps some progress will be made.

up
0 users have voted.
Unabashed Liberal's picture

@Big Al

that, at least until Bernie acknowledges the primary fraud, my time is better utilized following health care and 'tax reform' legislation. (OTOH, I do read the posts, and appreciate that folks are sharing the info. I just don't go out of my way to seek additional info, other than what is presented at C99P.)

A couple times I've posted a Symone Sanders piece and a Tweet in which she denied that there was any election fraud--or, that the election was stolen. Of course, today she's comfortably ensconced on CNN as a purveyor of 'fake news.' (to be kind) So, I'm not sure how much credence I give her words.

Also, the Sane Progressive claims that Bernie's campaign staffers won't even speak to her about the primary election fraud.

So, my question is, 'Has he ever been asked on camera about these matters?' If not, why?

FWIW, I believe that the key to getting this topic into the mainstream media is to [somehow] find a way to get Bernie to acknowledge the validity of the events. Frankly, as much media exposure as he allows, it's mind-boggling that this question has not already been asked of him. Go figure.

Mollie


"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage."--Lao Tzu

"I think dogs are the most amazing creatures--they give unconditional love. For me, they are the role model for being alive."--Gilda Radner

up
0 users have voted.

Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.

Alligator Ed's picture

@Unabashed Liberal

Also, the Sane Progressive claims that Bernie's campaign staffers won't even speak to her about the primary election fraud.

So, my question is, 'Has he ever been asked on camera about these matters?' If not, why?

up
0 users have voted.
Alligator Ed's picture

up
0 users have voted.
Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

Especially writing gators. Smile

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Alligator Ed's picture

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal You probably don't appreciate how difficult it is to get my clumsy paws to use a keyboard.

up
0 users have voted.
studentofearth's picture

This caught my eye today "Seth Rich murder: Likely serial killer, not robbery" on Rawstory. As the original narrative of robbery is becoming suspicious to greater number of people. Suggestion number 2: the murder was not efficient enough to be a professional hit the conspiracy theorist keep discussing. It was a serial killer.

While previous investigations by the public into the Rich murder have cited unverified social media posts and anonymous sources, the report released Tuesday seems to be more credible, given the academic backgrounds of the volunteers.

The family's opinion

Bauman, the family representative, says, "the family hopes that the general public takes the findings at face value—valuable experience in research collection and report writing for students at George Washington University, but in no way should [it] take any findings contained within as new, credible or otherwise lending credence to conspiracy theories surrounding the circumstances of Seth's death."

up
0 users have voted.

Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@studentofearth Oh for fuck's sakes. Anybody who's even delved slightly into serial killers knows that this isn't usually what it looks like. Shooting someone and leaving him to die in the street? No other interaction? And then there's the possibility that he didn't even die in the street.

Oh, wait. They're trying to say it's this kind of serial killer:

The Disorganized Killer
These individuals rarely plan out the deaths of their victims in any way. Most often, the people they kill just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. This type of serial killer appears to strike at random whenever an opportunity arises. They take no steps to cover up any signs of their crime, and tend to move to different towns or even states regularly to avoid being captured. Disorganized killers usually have low IQ’s and are extremely antisocial. They rarely have close friends or family, and do not like to stay in one place for too long. These killers are prone to have no recollection of their deeds, or to confess that they were motivated by voices in their heads or some other imaginary source.

Wanna bet some hobo-looking homeless guy with a low IQ who claims to hear voices in his head gets turned up as the #1 suspect in this?

I would not put it past them to frame someone just so they could call us all conspiracy theorists with more credibility.

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Alligator Ed's picture

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal 1. No crime scene victim camera footage from adjacent neighborhood rife with cameras
2. No release of body cam video from police on the spot
3. DWS trying to stop the probe
4. Donna Brazile trying to stop the probe
5. DNC via Brad Bauman trying to silence the investigation

It's just another DNC ploy to deflect the blame whence it belongs.

up
0 users have voted.
Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@Alligator Ed And then there's that!

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

riverlover's picture

@studentofearth Maybe he was shot by a toddler at 4 AM. Who knows? Dots are connected. One erased line would end that, but it's been nearly a year. They think we are stupid and distractable.

up
0 users have voted.

Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

Alligator Ed's picture

@riverlover

up
0 users have voted.
Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

It's one of the two things most important to say right now: we need to establish that we have no interest in gunning down or otherwise physically assaulting ordinary people simply because they're right-wing. And we need to reach out to the right and have a discussion about how there is an attempt being made by the establishment to get us fighting. It's like being part of a horrible Punch and Judy show.

I think we should talk to the right about this sooner rather than later. Whatever we disagree on--and it's a lot--those of us who have no interest in engaging in some kind of Civil War puppeteered from above should talk to each other soon.

The other thing that's important is making in-real-life connections with each other, and with other left-wing, dissident, truth-telling communities.

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Alligator Ed's picture

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal If not, start shooting or ducking. I do not see a peaceful way out of this. If there is, let me know.

up
0 users have voted.
Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@Alligator Ed We don't HAVE to do what the elites want us to. We can't really stop them inventing violent events if their stochastic terrorism doesn't work, but we can provide a countervailing force.

I'll be damned if I fight with ordinary people when they aren't the ones fucking me over, not really.

up
0 users have voted.

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

When we fight each other the oligarchy wins. F**k that. The enemy is the swamp and the swamp is prodding us to fight each-other for their own benefit. Trump is expanding that swamp while we're busy getting riled up about other stuff, some of which is legitimate, and a lot of which does nothing but rile us up.

up
0 users have voted.

Beware the bullshit factories.