Thursday Open Thread 5-18-2017
Give a man a fish, he can eat for the day.
Teach a man to fish and he can eat forever. Unless the water he fishes has only seasonal runs, the area becomes over-fished the water, polluted or global warming destroys the fishes living environment. Does he live near the water or are there transportation problems?
Give a man 200 lbs of fish, how many days can he eat? It depends without preserving the fish it will spoil in 3 days. Does he dry, pickle, can, salt or freeze the fish? Does he take 1/2 the fish or all the waste and fertilize the soil to start a cycle of growing crops for several years.
Farm Report
What are you growing and harvesting this week? I have fresh onion greens to add to an omelet. Have had frost 4 out 7 days this week. The garden is still not planted, ground is to cold. Not sure if the cherries survived.
These guys will not be bribed into the corral. They have too much fun as I chase them around and around. Insect control team is on the job of keeping fly population down.
Taking a time out from rodent patrol.
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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.
Well since we just moved we're getting our
house in order. Mr. Loosinhouse is weeding and turning over the abandoned garden space which has been fallow about ten years. We discovered a huge resident ground hog, since I guess we disrupted his burrow and now we'll have to deal with that. Suggestions? Aside from that, I got an amazing standing garden box with loads of potting soil as a gift which I'm going to use for an herb garden on the back deck.
It's a joke between Mr. L and me how much I love gardening in the abstract, basically reading about gardening while he does the actual labor. So I'm trying to change up that act and went out and bought a great gardening hat, gloves and some shears. I put them on the table and he said "Oh, it's "Barbie Goes Organic" which made me laugh.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
Goundhog
If you do not get rid of it. Your garden is kaput. A dog may help, but there is really only one sure fire solution.
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -
Re: groundhog
the original use of whirligigs was to get rid of gophers. May work on groundhogs? How long would you hang around with someone tapping on your walls night and day?
There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.
I've read up on groundhogs and discovered
they're extremely destructive. A friend told me how years ago farmers paid bounties for groundhog tails. I'm reading how to repel them on the Havahart site.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
WI is considering adding a
Hedgehog hunting season because of the garden and yard damage. I believe Hedgehog and Groundhogs are the same thing! The problem with an open season on them is they are in the Cities damaging gardens how many are in the woods and would it make a difference? Any reason to pull the guns out and kill animals I guess.
O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.
Perhaps the same in North America? In Europe, though, a hedgehog
is a different animal entirely (has spines, rolls itself into a ball, eats slugs and insects).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog
In one of Rudyard Kipling’s Just So Stories, a hedgehog named Stickly-Prickly and a turtle named Slow-and-Solid outwit an easily bamboozled Painted Jaguar and end up acquiring each other’s abilities, turning them both into armadillos.
Not the same critter unless it is a wierd WI
colloquialism. If actually hedgehogs, it is probably targeting released or escaped pets, which would probably lack natural predators and constitute a risk of becoming a runaway invasive.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Yes, hedgehog not the same
Groundhogs are also known as woodchucks. Hedgehogs are cute though!
O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.
I have heard that dry ice works on moles and other burrowing
creatures. Drop good sized chunks in each hole entrance you can find. As it sublimates, the CO2, which is heavier than air, sinks into the burrow, displacing the air sufficiently to cause asphyxiation.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Trap then dispose
I don't want to kill one of my rodent patrol team. They will catch baby woodchucks, but the full size adults are too big.
Relocating only shifts the problem else where or provides a few scary hours before the predators catch it.
Do have a field the rock chucks (marmots) have naturalized. But once they cross the irrigation ditch they are too near buildings, orchard and garden.
Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.
Thanks, SOE: Breaking news: MSNBC reporting that
Roger Ailes (formerly of Fox News) has died. Joe Scarborough just announced it.
Aha! Someone else who watches Morning Joe
I'm sort of addicted to it, because it's Party Line central and I get up early everyday and I enjoy watching the talking heads bloviate to each other.
I think it's pretty interesting that Joe and Mika are now engaged and attribute it to propinquity. But I was getting the vibe quite a while ago, basically when Joe kept kidding her about her pets and I thought I detected more than a professional intimacy. He'll have Zbiggy as a father-in-law, the guy who called him "stunningly superficial" to his face in one of the all-time great moments of Morning Joe. To his credit, Joe started making self-deprecating comments about that jibe later.
Now I'm hoping that the entire show will change and become like a 1950's radio couples talk show - taped from their house on the veranda with Joe in a bathrobe and Mika in a feather trimmed peignoir with a pitcher of mimosas on the table. And all their guest should be in morning wear as well - wouldn't that be great?
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
I listen more than watch. I have no idea how either of them
tolerates the other. Joe is obnoxious and calculated as they come and Mika is, well, Mika.
Heh
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -
I may have to make you stand in the naughty corner
with ghotiphaze.
Was Roger found
in Scarborough's office, too?
There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.
Behave!
Third harvest of my oak leaf lettuce
it is about spent now, might bolt with the coming heat. I got about six servings of fresh leaves to top off some beans and rice. Best thing ever for me, fresh food, peace and quiet.
Love the calves they sure are cute and funny. I lived with 'em getting taken to market every year for a while, that was hard, their moms do cry for days after they're gone, still searching.
Jesse Amaral, ran the cattle on Bottarini Ranch when I live/worked the fish farm there. He taught my partner and I a lot about raising our pig, was highly respected in the community. That's how I remember him, not the other way.
Good day.
doj appoints special counsel for russiagate
in case folks hadn't heard yet, here's the press release from doj:
And
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/paul-ryan-keeps-it-family-kevin-...
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -
In their own words they do not care about
US citizens. They are playing a board game and do not think about human lives only how can "I" benefit. Thanks for the link to the article.
Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.
DOJ appoints Bush retread to cover up another flub
thanks, Mueller replaces Comey now Mueller investigates Comey. Good one.
Wiki: Federal Bureau of Investigation
But the interesting thing about this is
How is he going to handle the DNC "hacking" when "inside leak" is just as, if not a more viable theory?
IF the whole Trump thing is about Russians Colluding with Trump to swing the election, the DNC piece of the puzzle has to be looked at closely. Will Mueller subpoena their computers (assuming there's anything left to look at, which is doubtful), which raises yet another question - why wouldn't the DNC and the Dems assist in an investigation to bring down Russian interference as much as they possibly could?
I think this whole thing could go into some unpredictable places. I read something the other day which suggested that Comey gave HRC a pass because he knew there was no way in hell an Obama or HRC Justice Department would really prosecute the case and what he did essentially "preserved the case" in case different PTBs chose to follow up on it later. I have to admit this scenario never occurred to me - I have no idea how plausible a theory this is.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
I have heard that he was once competent counsel.
This means that he knows what evidence is. That means that the oppo research "dossier" and the CIA hand-waving blather go directly into the toilet, and what's left? Whatever the feebs turn up.
For decades now, the feebs primary investigative prowess, in no particular order, consists of:
1) Frame-ups, pseudo-science, lying and misrepresentation, concealment of evidence, and the like
2) use of (usually suborned) snitches
3) busting those entrapped or otherwise set-up by undercover provocateurs
So, where does that leave this "investigation"?
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
$0.02
Does he live near the water or are there
transportationimmigration problems?Borders are artificial constructs. Why are prevented from seek a better living environment? Same logic as ending SNAP? The hardship makes them stronger? I think it is time for some politicians to experience hard
shiptimes.The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -
Understand the sentiment, Tim.
I dream of air dropping our politicians onto Alcatraz with a monthly food drop and let them fend for themselves.
There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.
good morning SoE and all
My internet is still intermittent, but while it is happening this AM thought I would drop in and say "Hey."
We've been eating lettuce out of the garden for about a month. Onions are about ready to harvest. Snow peas are coming in too. Everything but sweet potatoes and okra are planted and we hope to get them in this week. Off to the Florida Folk festival next week.
Hope your gardens are all fruitful and fertile. All the best....
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Long growing season
probably spring (my summer), hot summer (I get 7 to 21 days)and fall (my normal summer warm weather). You do have me thinking about installing in a couple of cold frames to extend the season on either end.
Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.
Chives, bay leaves, parsley, green onions, chard, thyme.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Good morning, SOE ~
Our garlic is ahead of schedule due to our warm winter. We've been getting unseasonable rain, too. It's cold today, though, and will be most of the week. Been eating greens - spinach, kale and the like - for a couple months now. Nothing in the ground yet - still too cool. We'll be planting at the end of May/beginning of June.
Have a beautiful day, folks!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11