Breaking: New Info on Seth Rich - Wikileaks Connection UPDATED
Caitlin Johnstone tweets that Fox News is reporting tonight that a private investigator hired by his family that Seth was communicating with Wikileaks:
Well, well, well.https://t.co/X1U3IM8gpq
— Caitlin Johnstone (@caitoz) May 16, 2017
Rod Wheeler, a private investigator hired by the Rich family, suggests there is tangible evidence on Rich's laptop that confirms he was communicating with WikiLeaks prior to his death.
There are juicy suggestions of a coverup. Click the link to read more.
So...contact evidence of slain @DNC staffer #SethRich & @wikileaks .DNC didn't let FBI check their server & @FBI didn't subpoena DNC. Got it pic.twitter.com/Dq90jXQNu4
— Vote Trump Pics (@VoteTrumpPics) May 16, 2017
Podesta email leaker #SethRich was conscious and breathing when officers arrived and they were wearing body cams. pic.twitter.com/h9Uo3NVNfF
— Josh Cornett (@therealcornett) May 16, 2017
Fox News has a more full report this morning:
A federal investigator who reviewed an FBI forensic report -- generated within 96 hours after DNC staffer Seth Rich's murder -- detailing the contents Rich’s computer said he made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time.
The Democratic National Committee staffer who was gunned down on July 10 on a Washington, D.C., street just steps from his home had leaked thousands of internal emails to WikiLeaks, law enforcement sources told Fox News.
federal investigator who reviewed an FBI forensic report -- generated within 96 hours after DNC staffer Seth Rich's murder -- detailing the contents Rich’s computer said he made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time.
44 thousand emails with 17 thousand attachments. Worth clicking to read the rest.
The scope of this assertion from the article is a bit broad:
“My investigation shows someone within the D.C. government, Democratic National Committee or Clinton team is blocking the murder investigation from going forward,” Wheeler told Fox News. “That is unfortunate. Seth Rich’s murder is unsolved as a result of that.”
Other tantalizing tidbits include that he was alive for two hours at the hospital and that apparently nearby security footage may show two individuals following Rich.
Had to throw this in - InfoWars wants to know about the timing of Seth's evening:
Rich visited Lou’s City Bar on the evening before his death and began drinking heavily. He left at 1:45am and headed to another bar called Wonderland, which closed at 2:30am that night. No other bars are clubs were open after this time.
The one mile walk from Wonderland to Rich’s Bloomingdale home would normally have taken around 30 minutes, possibly a little longer if he was drunk.
However, police didn’t hear the gunshots that led to his death until 4:19am, leaving a gap of nearly two hours between when Rich would have left Wonderland and when he was shot dead.
What was Rich doing in the time between leaving the bar and walking home?
They don't have any answers, either...
I believe the Fox piece has evolved in the past couple hours - these two paragraphs appear to be in contradiction to one another:
But a spokesman for Rich's family on Tuesday said Wheeler was not authorized to speak for the family and called assertions Seth Rich sent emails to WikiLeaks "unsubstantiated." Brad Bauman said even if purported emails were to surface, it would not necessarily mean Rich had helped WikiLeaks.
and
The revelation is consistent with the findings of Wheeler, whose private investigation firm was hired by a third party on behalf of Rich’s family to probe the case.
This vid has old video of family and current Rod Wheeler interview:
Comments
Whoa! Thanks for posting this
Whoa! Thanks for posting this - darned unfortunate that I'll have to wait to listen to the videos, due to thin walls and sleeping roommates in adjoining rooms, though...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Earphones, Ellen. Then listen to your heart's content.
Now we know why...
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
I wonder if the DNC offered a reward.
@HenryAWallace Nice.
Nice.
Even if they didn't have him killed, he's apparently just riff raff, so not worth the trouble to solve the mystery. Murder, schmurder.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
The DNC did, after all, dedicate a bike rack to him.
That's impressive, isn't it?
The 'what' may still be on Rich's laptop.
One obvious question: If Seth Rich was truly killed in a botched robbery attempt, why would the police want to impound his laptop?
Another less obvious question: Why would the FBI be involved at all?
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
You're Not Kidding!
Elementary My dear Not Henry Kissinger.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
Here's something I'd never listened to before
It's a podcast - an interview with Donna Brazile that was broadcast sometime in February of this year right before the DNC held their convention in Atlanta where Tom Perez was chosen as new DNC chair.
Start at about the 2:30 mark.
Donna Brazile was talking about how when she was chosen as DNC Interim Chair after DWS resigned, she was having a really good time and then she got that phone call. And the phone call she was talking about was the one in which she told that Seth Rich had been murdered.
She says that Seth's death really turned things around. She also said Seth was part of her department along with two other staffers. Seth had developed a lot of the the technology that the DNC was using to help citizens register to vote.
FYI
Your essay on the fine reporting out of FL on the DNC lawsuit is one of c99s most popular on Twitter.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Wow! Thanks for letting me know.
I don't have a twitter account, but I'm glad some people who do are getting the story out.
That reporter (Brook Hines) did SUCH a fantastic job.
Facebook too....
It is also at the top of our FB reach.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Someone else on another forum told me ..
That CC99% had tweeted it to #DNCFraudLawsuit and they shared it and gave a shoutout to Brook.
@LoneStarMike I messaged you
I messaged you yesterday on about it on a social media platform when I first saw it pop up...
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Thanks I just now saw it
I only go over there about every 3-4 days.
That's a great catch, LSM. Brazile praising Seth Rich...If so,
that he was so instrumental in developing DNC voter technology, then why wouldn't they have offered a reward for his death, as Wikileaks has (and according to this RW meme, the DC Police also). Perhaps they didn't want to call any unnecessary attention to a former, crucial employee serving them with a lawsuit charging them with fraud.
Apologies for pasting an apparent Christian Conservative Drumpf dupe's tweet (had lots of praying hands and American flags, which I had to delete in order for it to post here):
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
@Mark from Queens I saw a Tweet comment
I saw a Tweet comment which suggested WikiLeaks has upped it's reward money significantly, but I haven't seen confirmation of that.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
@Mark from Queens The Fox News piece in
The Fox News piece in the above piece answers who made the larger offer about information on his death, the Twitterer I saw must have been confused:
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Assange has retweeted Fox story
Link
The plot thickens.
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
We all were
thinking that Seth was the DNC leaker. Russian hack, my backside! Now, where did the order for this hit come from? That's the only real unsolved question about this sordid affair. Really, a robbery where nothing was taken. SMH.
But something was taken,
Seth's laptop was impounded by the authorities, and now they won't return it.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
But look! A squirrel!
A Russian squirrel!
Kinda like this?
Yep. That's the squirrel I was thinking of, all right.
That arrow is to the left...
HER's arrows always point to the right.
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
Can't point in that direction. Too many bodies
No, that's a blame arrow, and the neolibs always blame left
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
@LoneStarMike
Lol, you know there's major fakery in the works when you see Hillary trying to look to our left!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
@HenryAWallace
Luckily, Russian squirrels only worry the nuts.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
people on the streets get robbed every minute of
every day. They rarely get killed in the process.
I can't imagine the lap top being impounded since it was not stolen, should not be evidence, and even if it were evidence, the victim's family could seek to get a copy of the hard drive by court order.
When I got robbed, the police most certainly did not take my computers.
I have contacted the FBI numerous times to help investigate things, such as white collar crimes, or fishy government activities. Their rule is that if the state police is investigating it, they will not. Only when the locals will not investigate will they start up.
Nothing about Rich's death is a normal, every day attempted robbery.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
But the FBI are the state police for DC
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
@The Voice In the Wilderness I am unfamiliar with
I am unfamiliar with the constabularies in DC, or how their jurisdiction overlaps. I read up in a link above that Wheeler had been told the laptop was impounded by local police and told that it was in FBI possession. I took that to mean the locals were investigating. In other states, the FBI would only investigate if invited.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
It could easily be simply by coincidence,
but the chief of the MPDC, Cathy Lynn Lanier, resigned from her position just five weeks after Rich was murdered.
native
Here's the rule of thumb for me.
Occam's Razor...
The simplest explanation that fits the facts is that there is a reason that this person was murdered that has nothing to do with a robbery, since nothing was taken.
Assuming that the perpetrator freaked out, took nothing, (and yet IN that state of panic, managed to perfectly cover up the crime) then it was essential for the police to confiscate equipment, and the fact that this person was in contact with many folks who were in position to do serious political harm to people with the ability to assassinate this person...
Too many variables. Simplest explanation is most likely. He was giving info to the political enemies of someone with the motive and ability to kill him. That person also has a proven network of people willing to lie and obfuscate on any crime, no matter how serious. Hell, these people cover up mass murder overseas. What's ONE death in the spirit of "National Security"?
And that's the part that makes me the most crazy. They actually think that by killing people, they're doing good.
Edit: added another layer of complexity which I had forgotten.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
... with a good serving of Cui Bono
@detroitmechworks Twittersphere
Twittersphere conspiracists (until it's proven) are abuzz noting that the hit happened soon after Crowdstrike determined there had been a breach. The assertion is that the cyber goons fingered Rich for running off with emails and that a hit followed this revelation.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
No longer Paranoid Conspiracy...
DNC has already stated in open court they have the right to be a conspiracy and that the people have no right to complain.
Anybody who ain't paranoid at this point about Washington Politicians...
ISN'T PAYING ATTENTION.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
But, but, Putin!
What will the GOS do if their Scary Russia meme falls apart?
They'll stick it together with spit and baling wire.
The integrity of the Russians! meme must be maintained.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Msm has plenty of spit and bailing wire,
there's no doubt about that.
native
COINTELPRO reprise? McCarthy redux?
What would it take to pry Rich's laptop
from the iron grip of the FBI and DC police? Plenty of juice, would be my guess. They've had it for ten months now, and not a word about what's on it.
native
If they ever turn it loose,
which is doubtful, be assured that it will be wiped clean, and any record of what was on it will be classified, for our protection, of course.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
I doubt they'll ever turn it loose if it was in fact a coverup
murder. It will end up in the same place they keep JFK's brain.
Heh, GTMA. The government having lost track of JFK’s brain
was one of the first things this laptop business made me think of, as well.
Yep. Us pussy-grabbers tend to think alike.
@lotlizard
If only they'd actually used it! It would work so much better than so many others despoiling public office since.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
@dervish
Do the Clinton's still have the hammer they usually use on servers/devices containing evidence they don't want anyone to find?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
And Right on Cue, Twitter Censored the Hashtag.
Or rather, their perfectly impartial algorithm decided that the trending topics were not the one that was getting hundreds of tweets a minute.
Instead, it's FAR more important that we discuss a general who made a comment discussing that Trump might be ignorant of classified info's source.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
The Deep State is running the show - Russia hysteria & DNC
Thought today that the deep state is behind the Russia hysteria.
Making people scared for a coup. Hell with rule of law. Make a big scary monster to bring back the cold war and now with the new fanged information tools, this empire can control the masses, unlike other empires where the peasants revolted.
But this time, The New Climate Regime, which has been the major political actor on the globe for the last 30 years shows without a doubt that the modernization project -- everyone having US life style -- is a lie, so time to grab and kill and run the world.
Bernie brought up issues. "No Issues No Politics"
We didn't have politics until Bernie shook the logs from the people's eyes. Easier to defeat him in an election than to take him out.
But he has not died. Doesn't know that the election is over and Trump is the worst thing that has ever happened in the history of the universe?
Captain Hillary rides to the rescue!!!
Women power!!!
Adams Morgan, Lou's Bar, Wonderland....
The missing time could be as straightforward as hooking up.
Irish history is literally the history of conspiracies, their failure and their success. All of the bizarre conspiracies you've ever read in fiction have happened in Irish history alone, I'm sure they happen everywhere else too.
So it is important to remember that once a civilian deals themselves into "the game" they make themselves eligible for targeting by any other secret group or agency. Rich may have been murdered by a non-Clinton/DNC group if they figured out he was the Wiki Leaker. It is less likely than a Dem conspiracy but this is the hall of mirrors now and rarely is anything quite what it seems. I think of John Le Carré's George Smiley in these situations.
The Seth Rich murder was suspicious from the start, the Shawn Lucas death and the delay in releasing the autopsy is also suspicious. The Chandra Levy murder is another one that reeks. The way it played out that weekend on local news, and how it was used immediately to take down Gary Condit was all odd, jarring and suspicious. They found a scapegoat to convict, conviction overturned later.
Remember House of Cards is an exaggeration. The people involved are nowhere near that clever or competent.
Isn't it already
being floated today that Russia killed him because he was their intermediary to Wikileaks?
Anything's possible, right?
No doubt some are.
Although I don't see how Putin can have a case stall in DC.....