News Dump Thursday: Vietnamization of Afghanistan Edition

When in doubt, surge!

The Trump administration is weighing a drastic change when it comes to Afghanistan: Whether to send as many 5,000 more troops in the fight, a military official told NBC News.

deja vu all over again

Like Afghanistan, the withdrawal of U.S. troops from South Vietnam was predicated on a single proposition:

The American ground forces in Vietnam would be reduced through the policy of Vietnamization and the war turned over to an improved ARVN [Army of the Republic of Vietnam] and government capable of defending its territory and its people.

As we know, that never happened.
We have been trying to do the same thing in Afghanistan for over 15 years, longer than we failed to do in Vietnam. As recently as Autumn 2009, the U.S. government announced that after eight years and $27 billion, the results of the Afghan Army and Police training program were so bad that it was declared a failure.
The website despair.com defines “incompetence” as “When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there’s no end to what you can’t do.”

Yemen gets more complicated

Senior tribal, military and political leaders have formed a new council seeking the secession of southern Yemen, the former governor of the area's main city Aden said on Thursday, threatening to bring more turmoil to a two-year-old civil war.
Aidaroos al-Zubaidi made his announcement in a televised address in front of the flag of the former nation of South Yemen, whose forces were defeated by the north in 1994 and brought into a reunified country.

DAPL already leaking

The Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) has already sprung a leak in South Dakota, according to the state’s Department of Environment and Natural Resources. The pipeline spilled 84 gallons of oil even though it is not yet operational.

So NOT shooting is a bad thing?

Mader says he was let go by the Weirton Police Department for not shooting the emotionally disturbed Williams during a domestic disturbance call on May 6, 2016. The incident began when a female caller said Williams was threatening to hurt himself. Another officer ended up fatally shooting Williams, 21, just minutes later and within seconds of arriving at the scene. On Wednesday, Mader filed a lawsuit against the city of Weirton claiming that he was wrongfully terminated, that his constitutional rights were violated and that the city thereafter "engaged in a pattern of retaliation designed to destroy Mr. Mader's reputation."
The suit was filed on Mader's behalf by the ACLU of West Virginia and attorney Timothy P. O'Brien.
"The City of Weirton's decision to fire officer Mader because he chose not to shoot and kill a fellow citizen, when he believed that he should not use such force, not only violates the Constitution, common sense and public policy, but incredibly punishes restraint," O'Brien said.

Where have all the insects gone?

Over that time the group, the Krefeld Entomological Society, has seen the yearly insect catches fluctuate, as expected. But in 2013 they spotted something alarming. When they returned to one of their earliest trapping sites from 1989, the total mass of their catch had fallen by nearly 80%. Perhaps it was a particularly bad year, they thought, so they set up the traps again in 2014. The numbers were just as low. Through more direct comparisons, the group—which had preserved thousands of samples over 3 decades—found dramatic declines across more than a dozen other sites.
Such losses reverberate up the food chain. "If you're an insect-eating bird living in that area, four-fifths of your food is gone in the last quarter-century, which is staggering," says Dave Goulson, an ecologist at the University of Sussex in the United Kingdom, who is working with the Krefeld group to analyze and publish some of the data. "One almost hopes that it's not representative—that it's some strange artifact."
...Beyond the striking drop in overall insect biomass, the data point to losses in overlooked groups for which almost no one has kept records. In the Krefeld data, hover flies—important pollinators often mistaken for bees—show a particularly steep decline. In 1989, the group's traps in one reserve collected 17,291 hover flies from 143 species. In 2014, at the same locations, they found only 2737 individuals from 104 species.

hedge funds facing criminal probe

U.S. prosecutors are investigating one of Wall Street’s darkest markets, focusing on hedge funds suspected of inflating the value of debt securities in their portfolios to juice the fees they collect.
Having prosecuted traders who lied to customers about bond prices, the government is now scrutinizing hedge funds that allegedly solicited bogus price quotes from brokers, according to three people familiar with the matter who asked not to be identified. Such a practice would have enabled the funds to pump up the value of illiquid securities on their books.

usually this isn't a good thing

The current slump in expectations of market volatility is not just a stock market phenomenon -- it is the lowest it's been for years across fixed income, currency and commodity markets around the world.
It shows little sign of reversing, which means market players are essentially not expecting much in the way of shocks or sharp movements any time soon. It's an environment in which asset prices can continue rising and bond spreads narrow further...
It is most notably seen in the VIX index of implied volatility on the U.S. S&P 500 stock index, the so-called "fear index".
But implied volatility across the G10 major currencies is its lowest in three years, and U.S. Treasury market volatility its lowest in 18 months and close to record lows.
The VIX, meanwhile, has dipped to lows not seen since December 2006, is posting its lowest closing levels since 1993, and is on a record run of closes below 11. By comparison, it was at almost 90 at the height of the financial crisis.
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detroitmechworks's picture

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Sl5CF-qPY]

Of course, when it comes to forking over millions in public funds to corporations that vaguely promise to improve our ability to kill helpless civilians... we seem to be quite good at that.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

It's a first

According to the Burlington Free Press, Vermont became the first state to pass legislation legalizing the recreational use of marijuana through its legislature today. Colorado and eight other states have similarly moved to decriminalize the drug, but always through state referenda or other maneuvers. This marks the first true legislative victory for marijuana advocates in the U.S.

The bill, which passed through the Vermont House of Representatives with a 79-to-66 vote, would legalize small amounts of cannabis possession starting in 2018 and establish a taxed and regulated market for the illicit drug. Having already passed the state’s Senate, the bill is now headed for the desk of Republican Governor Phil Scott, a marijuana skeptic.

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Can we finally say that we cannot successfully install a government anywhere in the world? Afghanistan is a mess, both the US and The Soviet Union failed, South Vietnam, Libya, even Iraq is a mess, hard to figure if Iran is dominant there, Kurdistan??, endless terrorism. The one place that we seemed to have succeeded, South Korea, spawned off a nuclear rogue state, North Korea. Some younger Koreans question the war, was it necessary, was the cost too high and would they be much better off today as a single country having emerged many decades ago as a reasonable player on the international scene, as is Vietnam today. Which reminds me, our only long term success in creating a stable government was Vietnam because ... we lost.

In theory I really don't see how nation building can ever be successful. People allow themselves to be ruled when they decide that the current government is acceptable, based on stability, economy, and other things. The counties that we destroyed were stable precisely because whatever scheme was in place was overall better than the alternative revolution, that is, acceptable. How would it ever be possible to create that stability? If Nazi Germany had won WWII and installed a government here, would that be stable?

What makes nation building so very horrible is that we do it at the enormous cost of lives while there is no hope of creating a stable government in the aftermath.

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Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.

thanatokephaloides's picture

@The Wizard

Can we finally say that we cannot successfully install a government anywhere in the world?

Yes. We can indeed say that, as it is true.

The entirety of the above goes double for the case of The United States Of America, which currently rates as our largest and greatest failure at nation building. It is this failure, above all else, which is why we fail at nation building everywhere else. Nobody wants the clusterfuck we now have. Nobody. And they act accordingly, for which I can't blame them.

Bad Bomb Diablo

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

reflectionsv37's picture

@thanatokephaloides when some idiot reiterates those infamous words of GW Bush, "They hate us for our freedoms"

Nothing could be further from the truth. Citizens in the US are some of the most oppressed people in the world. We are governed by more laws, rules and regulations than people just about anywhere. We have so many police and law enforcement officers that we look like an occupied country. And although we make up only 5% of the worlds population, we incarcerate 25% of the worlds prisoners.

Why would anyone in their right mind want to allow the United States to march into their country and impose our ideas of "freedom" on them. There is a reason people all over the world don't want anything to do with democracy, US style. Our so called "freedoms" are what they fear most!

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“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush

@reflectionsv37

In addition to your excellent points, we can add that U.S. flavor of democracy grants a person hated by more than 1/2 the nation's population, gets fewer overall votes than their opponent, and is still the elected winner. And this scenario holds true in various, lesser/local elections as well.

You would have to be a special kind of stupid to want U.S. 'freedom' and 'democracy'.

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@reflectionsv37

Couldn't agree more! But would like to point out that The Psychopath Class always project, and that it's they who hate the non-billionaire Poors having any freedom, comforts or property, in the belief that anything possessed by anyone else is somehow taken from themselves, as the only rightful owners of any such things.

I recall reading that an official in the Koch-sucking Canadian Harper government complained of Canadians having 'too many rights', this evidently making it difficult to achieve the level of serfdom desired by the various US and other Psychopaths That Be, expecting more a rapid subjugation of the population since the infliction of NAFTA. The Bush Admin, even though not billionaires, was made up of those coming directly from polluting industry, and Bush was oiled in there, so to speak, to enact the same agenda which Harper emulated some time later, what with the destruction of science libraries/evidence and so many other atrocities.

Clearly, the US Constitutionally-required legitimate government of, by and for the people would have enabled a far more prosperous and sustainable world...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Bollox Ref's picture

not some Russian guy called Serge.

War bonds anybody?

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

CB's picture

We're going to use bigger and better bombs. These bombs are really, really BIG. Nobody in the world has got big bombs like we got. Just you wait and see what happens when we start dropping our really big bombs on top of them. They're going to drop their guns and run like hell for the nearest exit out of the country. It'll be over in a few weeks.

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detroitmechworks's picture

@CB But I believe your turn playing with the Middle East Distraction Machine is over.

/snark (Couldn't resist...)

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

CB's picture

and 60,000 contractors in Afghanistan.

Maybe we should just outsource the whole damn war and get the fuck out?

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snoopydawg's picture

@CB
The article I recently read says that it costs a million a year for just one soldier, so imagine how much a highly paid contractor costs.

From the peak of about 100,000 boots on the ground during the Obama-era surge, there are still almost 10,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, plus up to 26,000 highly paid contractors for the Department of Defense and other agencies. Each soldier costs about a million dollars a year. Economists estimate the Afghan war has already cost U.S. taxpayers around a trillion dollars. For the 2017 fiscal year, U.S. military and State Department operations in Afghanistan are costing about $50 billion—almost a billion dollars a week.

So the generals overseeing the Afghanistan war thinks that if this country sends 5,000 more troops to Afghanistan they will then win the war? They couldn't win when there were 100,000, so I don't think that another 5,000 is going to make a difference. Does anyone think that they will make a difference, or is the war just going to continue until the troops start treating their leaders like they were treated during the Vietnam war?
Even the troops don't understand why they are still there. After all the reason we were told that we needed to invade Afghanistan in the first place was to get OBL and he's been dead for how many years?
The troops are guarding the poppy fields so that the CIA can use the money from them to fund their black ops.

U.S. soldiers on the ground in Afghanistan are increasingly frustrated with a lousy mission in a benighted country riven with tribal feuds and opium wars. In Hopeless but Optimistic, my second book on the Afghan conflict, I tell tale after tale of American soldiers out on dangerous missions with no overall strategy; no end game in sight; just endless, life-crushing war. One grizzled sergeant said to me, “You ask probably any of these infantry guys, and they’ll say let’s get the fuck out of here. This is a fucked place. What the fuck are we doing here?
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The troops guarding the poppy fields.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/06/trump-wants-a-new-afgh...

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Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?

Not Henry Kissinger's picture

didn't work.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

lotlizard's picture

this vanishing of species that used to be common has been noticeable for a long, long time.

The gifted chansonnier Reinhard Mey was already singing about it in his 1974 ballad Es gibt keine Maikäfer mehr (“There are no May beetles anymore”).

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Bisbonian's picture

@lotlizard I wonder if pesticides might have anything to do with it?

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

TheOtherMaven's picture

in Afghanistan, and learned 10,000% of NOTHING from that.

What's the use of history, if nobody pays any attention to history?

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

lotlizard's picture

@TheOtherMaven @TheOtherMaven https://www.umass.edu/umpress/title/history-bunk

In an era of mass communication and industrialized marketing, messaging, and PR, “history” is whatever government and media elites can put over on the people. History is propaganda (see Edward Bernays), or hasbara.

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@TheOtherMaven
So even they didn't learn.

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CB's picture

@gjohnsit

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lotlizard's picture

@gjohnsit

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
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