Trump Takes Big Step towards Impeachment
By taking the office of U.S. president Friday, Donald Trump has also taken a big step towards impeachment. That fact has crossed the mind of at least one member of the House. Jamie Raskin (D-MD), who is a constitutional law professor at American University in Washington, D.C., and the director of the university’s Program on Law and Government Leadership, said:
"Right now (January 18) it looks pretty obvious that [Trump]'s on a collision course with the Emoluments Clause" ... "He has refused to divest himself of tens or hundreds of millions of dollars of business interests he has around the world doing business with foreign governments."
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"[The Emoluments Clause] says that no elected official, either member of Congress or the president of the United States, can accept a gift, an emolument or any payment at all from a foreign government." ... "He [Trump] just simply refuses to accept that reality. So if he goes into office and he refuses to divest himself, the moment that the first conflict comes up, that's going to look like an impeachable offense."
emolument: Payment for an office or employment; compensation.
The Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution:
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
It seems that the flow of money from foreign government payments into the Trump Organization will often test that law. According to Richard Painter, a University of Minnesota law professor who had served as chief ethics counsel to President George W. Bush, any such payments "in excess of fair market value" would be judged a gift -- and a violation of the Emoluments Clause.
Jeff Stein at Vox writes:
There’s almost no way to imagine that this won’t happen under the current arrangement. Trump’s wide-ranging business will involve thousands of interactions across multiple countries, and in countries whose foreign governments’ will have clear incentives to curry favor with the president. We’d have to believe that not a single one of them will ever do something that disproportionately helps Trump’s private business — an idea which doesn’t pass the laugh test.
In an interview on December 28, Pointer said:
[I]f he’s going to hold onto these business enterprises, ... to satisfy the Constitution, at a bare minimum, what he’s going to have to do is get the foreign government money and money from foreign government-controlled corporations out of his business enterprise. And this includes foreign diplomats staying at the hotels at government expense, foreign governments having big parties in his hotels and canceling reservations at the Four Seasons, going over to the Trump Hotel, to curry favor. All of that is unconstitutional. Also, he has bank loans outstanding, I believe, from the Bank of China, which is controlled by the government of China. And some foreign government-owned banks are leasing space in Trump office buildings. All that has to be dealt with before January 20, or we could have a violation of the Constitution.
But, just as he chose to break protocol and not release his tax returns, Trump chose to break protocol and not divest from his businesses. Instead, at a press conference on January 11, he announced that he will turn over management of the company to his sons, Don and Eric. Trump then called on one of his lawyers, Sheri Dillon, to give his excuses for not divesting. What it boils down to is a plea that the Trump Organization is too wonderful, and that divestment is too hard:
Some have asked questions. Why not divest? Why not just sell everything? ...
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[W]hatever price was paid would be subject to criticism and scrutiny. Was it too high, is there pay for play, was it too much pay to curry favor with the president-elect. And selling his assets without the rights to the brand would greatly diminish the value of the assets and create a fire sale.
President-elect Trump should not be expected to destroy the company he built. ... [S]elling the entire Trump Organization isn’t even feasible.
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The approach that he is taking allows Don and Eric to preserve this great company and its iconic assets.
Walter M. Shaub, Jr., Director, U.S. Office of Government Ethics, called Trump's plan "meaningless from a conflict of interest perspective." He said:
I appreciate that divestiture can be costly. But the President-elect would not be alone in making that sacrifice. I’ve been involved in just about every Presidential nomination in the past 10 years. I also have been involved in the ethics review of Presidents, Vice Presidents, and most top White House officials. I’ve seen the sacrifices that these individuals have had to make. It’s important to understand that the President is now entering the world of public service. He’s going to be asking his own appointees to make sacrifices. He’s going to be asking our men and women in uniform to risk their lives in conflicts around the world. So, no, I don’t think divestiture is too high a price to pay to be the President of the United States of America.
After the news conference, Representative Elijah Cummings (D-MD), who serves on the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said in a statement:
“In nine days, President-Elect Trump risks violating the United States Constitution and threatening the credibility of our democracy by refusing to follow in the footsteps of every modern American president.” ... “Trump has chosen not to divest his ownership interests, not to liquidate all of his business assets, and not to place the proceeds in a truly blind trust run by an independent entity, which is the opposite of what was recommended by Republican and Democratic ethics experts.”
With Trump's willingness to ignore protocol and the Constitution, along with his disregard for facts and common human civility, we can expect more impeachable offenses from him. But for now, it looks like violation of the Emoluments Clause stands to be article one.
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At a rally, Raskin said that he may well be voting to impeach Trump in a year or two. It was just an aside comment, but it drew a long bout of cheers from the crowd.
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Image: U.S. Constitution, Page 2, Emoluments Clause (The Paragraph/National Archives)
Comments
Nonsense. n/t
Impeachment has nothing to do with criminal acts
Trump will be impeached when he's no longer useful to the GOP agenda, so he can be used as the fall guy for their unavoidable failure.
Trump may do something
to get himself impeached but I seriously doubt this will be one of them. The clause also has the part (without consent of congress accept)So that should have him covered. Anyway I'll believe it when I see it.
i sincerely believe it will be his own party...
I think Congress will use the
I think Congress will use the threat of impeachment and removal from office if Trump starts refusing to sign too many bills they put in front of him. The definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors" seems to be whatever Congress says it is.
In some ways Pence might be more difficult to control than Trump because Trump does not seem very interested in the details of policy. Pence might want to impose his religious beliefs on the Powers That Be.
If Trump annoys enough powerful people they will have no difficulty finding reasons for impeachment. The emolument clause would be work for the purpose. As long as they want to let Trump get away with it though we may conclude he has the tacit consent of Congress.
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/11/17/would-trumps-foreign-bus...
It would be difficult to put income from licenses for the use of the Trump name in a blind trust. It would be interesting to know if existing contracts operate on something like a royalty basis or on a flat fee for the use of the name. This is also complicated if there are demands that the Trump offspring not license their own name because they share it with their father.
Don't know about impeachment,
but heard earlier this evening that both Dem and Repub Leaders are meeting with DT tomorrow.
As I type, I'm hearing (on C-Span) a Dem (Mitch Landrieu) and a Repub (Mick Cornett)--both Mayors--drool over the plans that DT has for infrastructure projects. They head the U.S. Conference Of Mayors, and have already met with him.
Also, heard a Maryland professor (Johns Hopkins) speak of this Administration's intentions to rewrite the rules for the entire federal Civil Service system. I haven't (yet) had a chance to hear the entire interview; but, I expect to cut a clip of this video, soon.
I have a real uneasy feeling that DT may be able to work with Chuckie and his corporatist minions. And, if he does, I expect impeachment may be the last thing on the minds of neoliberal lawmakers. Don't forget--DT is not ideological, like Pence.
Mollie
"Every time I lose a dog, he takes a piece of my heart. Every new dog gifts me with a piece of his. Someday, my heart will be total dog, and maybe then I will be just as generous, loving, and forgiving."
____Author Unknown
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
@Unabashed Liberal I think you summed it up.
There might be some realignment of coalitions if some of the Bush buddies decide not to support Trump. I think you are right that Chuck and enough of his pals will be willing to step in and provide the necessary votes.
More people are paying attention now, though, and this might backfire on them. A lot of people are going to remember Corey Booker's view on the dangers of inexpensive Canadian medicine. I know I will.
Mollie, a lot of the democrats have said that they are
willing to work with Trump. That right there tells us that they have no plans to go against anything he or the republicans are going to try to pass.
And why would they start now?
Remember how they betrayed us in 2006 when they ran on their platform of rolling back the Bush abuses?
I'm sure that I don't have to remind anyone what Pelosi told us the minute she got her hand on the gavel.
And then they continued to let him and the republicans pass any legislation that they wanted to.
And it's only the republicans who can place holds and use the filibuster for some damned reason.
I agree with those who are saying that he will be impeached when he no longer plays ball with their agendas.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
The reason only Republicans can place holds and
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Hey, thanks, asterisk--appreciate the validation. ;-D EOM
Mollie
"Every time I lose a dog, he takes a piece of my heart. Every new dog gifts me with a piece of his. Someday, my heart will be total dog, and maybe then I will be just as generous, loving, and forgiving."
____Author Unknown
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
LOL! Impeachment isn't happening
not now anyway, and not for that reason.
The folks over at the Great Orange Satan might be interested in that essay, I'm not certain that many here are.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Hi, SD! You're right, it's possible that Dems
would dump DT, once he serves his usefulness--I have mixed feelings on that point.
He's a manipulative dude, no doubt. And, partly for that reason, I tend not to underestimate him. After all, he took an inheritance of several million dollars, and according to Forbes, turned it into a fortune of just under 4 billion dollars--6 billion less than he claims to have--but, who really knows?
Hey, we'll know in time. I agree with everything you just stated. As we both know, corporatist Dems, including 'O', are looking to keep their power. Heard the other day that only one other President stayed in D.C. after completing his last term--and he did so, only because he suffered a stroke, and needed to stay in D.C. to receive specialized medical care.
For sure, it's going to be a wild, and probably very stressful few years. I don't look forward to it.
Mollie
"Every time I lose a dog, he takes a piece of my heart. Every new dog gifts me with a piece of his. Someday, my heart will be total dog, and maybe then I will be just as generous, loving, and forgiving."
____Author Unknown
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
President Pence? Dude (or dudette), have you read
"The Handmaid's Tale"? Yikes!
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Gonna have to Netflix that one day
There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.
You're gonna have to read Margaret Atwood's book.
THT is a dystopian novel about the fictional nation of Gilead where scarce fertile women are forced into service of the power elite to bear them children. Women in general were forced into narrow roles enforced by stoning. Scary stuff.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Question is, how long will it take?
It seems to me that the republican congress wants Drumpf in there to do their dirty work. Expand the military budget, destroy all of our important social institutions, eliminate the Dreamers, etc. Then, they can find any number of things to impeach him, leaving the nice, white bread Pence to take the reigns, his own hands unsullied; placing all blame for the damage done upon Trump and crew.
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
wouldn't that have applied to Clinton and....
...their foundation, too? impeachable offense for Trump but not for Clinton? seems to be a double standard here.
so as SOS, Clinton was not an elected official, a member of Congress or the president so those rules didn't apply or does impeachment only apply to elected officials?
@blue drop The law applies to any
The difference is that money going into the Trump businesses, from which he has not divested, goes into Trump's pocket. Money going into the Clinton Foundation, which is a charity, does not go into Clinton's pocket.
"We dance round in a ring and suppose, But the Secret sits in the middle and knows." - Robert Frost