The Agents Of Darkness, Misinformation and Lies.
Have you noticed how the US government has dealt with whistle-blowers?
Have you noticed the reasons given? They do have one thing in common.
The outrage is not over creative lies and misinformation.
It is for exposing the reality and truth.
After all misinformation and lies are the speciality of our own government when they want to carry out regime change, torture, murder, punitive sanctions and war. The evidence they have often supplied to justify these actions have been downright lies. Initially the retaliation to these lies have been overwhelmingly supported both in congress and the American people at large. Lies have been use to manipulate the majority throughout our history, then our governments pardon themselves from their actions when the lies have been exposed. We are so special.
If our torture program is exposed again it will be because we refused to punish those that decided that torture was acceptable, yet our government says torture is evil, they said the images were too damaging to our own nation to be released. However no justice was forthcoming and in the end we will protect future our state sponsored torturers by our governments own lack of action. Same goes for other War Crimes that our government has committed in our name.
Our regime change philosophy is rarely questioned by respective governments, we create whole theories to justify our actions, when we support terrorist we call them revolutionises/freedom fighters. When the turn on us they once again become terrorists.
Take some of the following recent examples where our government has attempted to interfere via attempting regime change
China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
Somalia 2007 to present
Libya 2011*
Syria 2012
I am sure you can up with our governments righteous reasons [often fabricated] for such actions, whilst at the same time ignoring the body counts. Honduras in 2009 should also be added. However we prop up some of the most brutal and repressive regimes around the world when it suits us.
Once again the Agents of Darkness, Misinformation and Lies are trying to generate global hostilities because someone chose to expose the reality of how we ourselves behave, the scheming of one of our own main political parties to be precise.
This dangerous outrage is not aimed at dirty tricks, lies and misinformation that overthrew our democratic process but the release of information leaked from one of the main two parties campaigns. i.e exposing the truth about the campaign itself.
At no time has the Democratic Party contested the veracity of the documents leaked.
So what we are being told is:
Exposing the truth has undermined our democracy.
If that is correct then we are in deep trouble.
Some partisans accept the lines of their own parties without question or at best tie themselves into knots trying to justify lies just as long it is their own party doing the misinforming.
How about an apology from the Democratic Party for undermining our democratic process if that is in fact what releasing their own documents has done?
Once again we are trying to blame someone else for our own failings by self victimization. We will wrap ourselves in a flag armed with self righteousness to once again impose our will on the world.
Who will be carrying out this new found outrage fuelled imperialism? Donald Trump.
If you really wanted to stop lies and misinformation destroying democracy then the first ports of call would be:
Our own Government.
Our own security departments notably the CIA and the DHS itself.
Our Main Stream Media.
The Military Industrial Complex
The Prison Industrial Complex.
The Oligarchs who in the end chose which policies are enacted and how their media reports on them.
Orwell's 1984 has been used as a design tool - not a warning.
Rather than screaming about external forces - look at our own Agents of Darkness, Misinformation and Lies.
When they claim that democracy is being overthrown by transparency:- then we really are in trouble.
Wake up.
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If our democracy is so fragile it is because our own government
has been undermining it for a long time now.
^^^This!^^^
This one sentence sums it up perfectly. Great muse this morning, LaFem.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Thank you, it's becoming clearer as the days go by
so much burnt hair on display
If our democracy seems so fragile
... it may be because the idea that we live in a democracy is itself the lie. Two corrupt parties offer no acceptable choices, and the corruption itself guides and constrains the government's choices so severely that the will of the people is a sick joke.
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i have often argued that that was a deceit designed to keep
the masses tranquillized at best, fighting each other for the scraps is far more profitable.
Dubya gave the secret away
The "Constitution" is only a piece of paper, Cheney the "shadow government"
Obama enabled it by all means, "look forward, not at the past"
Trump will carry the torch further, these olympic games are very profitable
for those in serve at the pleasure of the puppetmasters.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
During the Bushies
the loyal opposition The Demorat's took all the prescribed parliamentary remedies 'off the table'. Thanks Nancy and Harry. No checks or balances or separation of powers anymore as they needed our human and civil rights to use as a tool to fight 'the terrist's who are gonna kill yer family'. Neither side is willing to repeal the odious Patriots Act or restore the rule of law. both the R's and D's are complicit and all our electoral politics are nothing but theater. We now are told not to be sanctimonious as the torturer's are patriotic and have a really hard job.
In high school i was lucky enough to take a civics class from an ex-Marine who passed out sheets with list's of political tricks and propaganda , like sword rattling, gerrymandering, yellow press (Remember the Maine) and other political terminology and history from America's checkered political past. So far our government has used every trick in the book to bring us to this state. 'Fake News' and the Russian's did it when we all got to read straight from the horses mouth about the Democratic machine's intent and agenda.
Obama not only did it with his way forward he normalized and made legal the criminality and abuse of power. He also killed off the Democratic parties democratic wing as were all good disaster free market unfettered cappies who must help the 1% win their race to the top. Can't have democracy breaking out anywhere as it impedes the agenda of the rightful owners of the place. War is peace and ignorance is strength.
"Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an apperarance of of solidarity to pure wind." George Orwell
Lucky you
that's quite the learning experience, me not so lucky, but my eyes were looking elsewhere until
like you said Reid, Pelosi, both doing the good patriotic song and dance, dubya's your either with us or against us was more talking to the Dem's than to other countries, for he could give a shit what they thought.
The Dem's only exist as a foil for the R's, the whole party sold out.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
The dreaded double post gremlin is out and about.
What's fragile is the bond
of trust that US citizens have with what is supposed to be their own government. A government that more and more, represents neither citizens nor their interests, but rather the interests of an increasingly isolated and privileged elite.
native
We have to look for more and better ways to make ourselves
independent from them.
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
B-but PBS said so!
It (The Russians messed with Hillary's selection) is getting fanned into a bonfire, larger every hour. Just declare martial law and be done with it, plop Hillary on her throne and run away. What is the endgame here? smh.
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I hear it being compared to 9-11, my question is obviously
then - who is going to die for this?
It's bordering on mass hysteria.
I already have one in the Army...
If you have followed what I have written on DKos, I have a son in the Army. "We don't know where he is", other than Ft. Bragg. He was in the 82nd Airborne, came back after 2 tours to be a jump master. Then they can't find his papers. They know he is still in (the family contacts).
Thru this series of unfortunate events, most likely he would be one of the first to go in..
Damn that orange turd.
The CIA and MIC are trying to constrain Trump's actions
This is the theory I favor, today at least. Neocons and war profiteers are aghast at the idea that Trump might pursue a rapprochement with Putin's Russia. Think of the opportunity cost in profits and overseas meddling! He must be stopped, and what better way than to pretend Trump is Putin's Manchurian candidate?
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I think that they would have quickly gotten the war
they wanted out of Hillary. They appear not to be sure that Trump will give them that war, so they're pulling out plan B--make him the reason for it instead of the instigator.
Why the fuck they want a war with Russia so quickly is beyond me. They appear even to be toying with the idea of nuclear war. Which is insane.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Beyond you, is it?
Time to rewatch Dr. Strangelove, I guess.
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Hey, Nuclear War isn't so insane:
We can counteract our growing global warming with some of that nuclear winter. Very scientific, no? (I hope no one in Trump's camp reads this; they probably would believe it.)
But, seriously, the MIC shouldn't worry about old Trump. If he doesn't give them war with Russia, not to worry, he'll give them war with China.
I personally am very heartsick about this country's current & future war involvements. And all of it is just because of profit.
Makes your motto rather timely, doesn't it?
Yeah, but I kind of didn't want that short of a timeline!
Guess I'd better start writing poetry fast.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
"who is going to die for this?"
one more time.
How Biblical!
We do seem to be entering the second Dark Age. Disinformation.
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All deflection
We saw the week after the election, the throwing of shit against the wall to see what sticks... the list of excuses as to why Hillary lost is exhaustive, and Hillary Clinton is often curiously forgotten on said list... Of all the excuses, Russia has the most going for it, since it pits us vs. them, all the while creating a false impression of fighting for your country, what's right, etc...
but make no mistake, this is and always will be about deflecting blame away from the neoliberal Democratic Party and the shitty corporatist candidate they just ran who lost to Das Pumpkinfuhrer.
This is a blatant attempt to distract us while keeping the spigots of dark money flowing.
Progressive to the bone.
Likely one of the reasons
Her Highness did not make a concession speech late Tuesday night (early Wed. morning) was that she had no such speech prepared. She had to be a mess (and maybe a tad tippsy) and it would have taken time to make her presentable to make that speech, so they just blew it off to several hours later. As for the gynormous loss, Any excuse besides blaming the most qualified president Ever would do.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Just stopped by TOP
and Chris had his weekly Diary, Nuts & Bolts, posted. Here's a snip...
"... When you write about local issues, you may find you are the only person at all who does so, and those reports from those meetings can be the difference in people discovering what happened and staying in the dark.
Over the last four years, I’ve sat in legislative session in five different state houses. While several have good reporters on hand, there simply aren’t enough to effectively cover the committee meetings being held or the proposals being put forward. And in those cases, I’m talking state government. Imagine how much information comes out of your local city council!
Dr. William Barber III challenged us in North Carolina: be the messenger. He wasn’t wrong. If we want to build a more informed electorate, it is on us to inform them, and not with assertions, but with hard facts that establish the journalistic questions: Who, What, Where, When, Why, How.
If you have an hour or two once a month, go to your local city or county government meeting. Post your thoughts on what happened. Even if nothing major is discussed or decided, you may be the only person who creates a real record that can be seen by constituents. And we all deserve to know more about our local government." -end quote-
Chris Reeves - aka on Twitter as tmservo433 - is a Kansas DNC delegate who will vote for HRC Monday. Originally a Bernie supporter and self proclaimed Berniecrat, Chris appears on our radio show Tuesdays, 11:35am -Noon ET talking progressive politics.
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Some of Chris's stuff is good, most of it is naive or
worse a dangerous oversimplification of how party politics works.
His suggestion to "start local and work your way up" is just laughably naive. Party politics doesn't work that way except in very rare, exceptional circumstances.
He may have supported Bernie, but his "Nuts & Bolts" diaries definitely reek of the kind of "bootstrap yourself into leadership" thought the elites prefer folks think works, when in fact it doesn't. He takes the view that the high school student council version of how party politics works is actually meaningful, when it really isn't. It's kind of sad to see how readily he's been elevated as a "thought leader" over there.
And if he's really an Elector for Hillary, well, that doesn't lend him any credibility in my opinion.
I suspect not many
Dems will be voting for Trump on Monday. Just a guess. His Bernie cred is as solid as anyone's, having supported Bernie all the way thru Cali, then, as a DNC delegate, supporting HRC after her coronation in Philly, but always supporting Berniecrats. You may disagree with his Nuts & Bolts philosophy, but it is also Bernie's. Top Down has served us so well. [rolls eyes] No one west of the Mississippi works harder at building the party than Chris. I left my local yokel Dem party becuz they were more interested in the cocktail parties than in getting local Dems elected. We can't run (Jim), Wink. He'll get his ass handed to him! Really? So, we're not going to run anyone? Exactly, Wink, it's more prudent, face saving. Alrighty, then... bye... My local yokel party "Leadership" looks a lot like the DNC "Leadership." A shame. One Chris and others work to correct.
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Well, yes, Bernie's philosophy is naive and
dangerous, too, on this, in my opinion. He's just dead wrong: the way forward isn't with the Democratic Party.
Chris didn't exactly get where he is in New York or California, with the entrenched machine fighting him. And that's what I meant in my first comment: it's a mistake to believe his success is generalizable, and the mistake is as much out of ignorance about how the party works as anything else.
As for party building I haven't seen it. From him or any other Democrat in a position of leadership. And, by the way, he doesn't have to serve as an elector. Only 200-some folks do. It says a lot about him if he is one for Hillary. I'm of a mind to view a person's actions as having at least as much meaning as their words.
Truth was at one time . . .
· · · considered to be the definitive defense against a charge of defamation (slander or libel). If this article describes the new reality we need to change our legal definition of
They say Trump wound up China verbally, Obama is intent
on winding China up with spy drones and fleet manoeuvres.
Which truth do you want.
strong and righteous!
Just read again and put it up on FB.
I keep humming the Canadian National Anthem...
And eyeing the border.
Not to go across it, mind you, but rather to shift the sign a few yards every year, till it rests somewhere around Grant's Pass or Medford...
A cartographic revolution. I don't think we've tried one of those yet.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
I wonder if the NEK snuck into Canada would anyone
notice? We could do it at night, mid winter.....hmmm
NEK: North East Kingdom, Vermont.
Sounds good. And we can claim.
That we've ALWAYS been Canadians.
What are the PTB talking about? We've always been on this side of the border. Clearly they're delusional and just making more stuff up.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
I speak French Canadian, and modern French with a Canadian
accent.
"I don't think we've tried one of those yet."
That's because we'd never heard of it.
Now we have.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Isn't that what the US and Mexico did to the Tohono O'odham?
Two governments, run by non-indigenous people, drew a line on a piece of paper and boom! -- half the family in one "country" and the other half in a different "country." And now they have to go through checkpoints to visit and even to get buried.
One of the things some of the tribal activists are fighting right now is the erection of two dozen surveillance towers on the TO nation's land. Border Patrol drives wherever they want, shoots people across the border. It's another tribal war zone, just like in ND. The United States is an invading army on Native land.
There is no justice in America, but it is the fight for justice that sustains you.
--Amiri Baraka
Thanks, was unaware of their issues history
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
There is a very similar situation with the Sinixt people
in Washington and BC. Many do not recognize the border. Earlier this fall a Sinixt man hunted cross border but on traditional land with the express purpose of getting arrested and opening the issue up in court.
Excellent write up. Thanks. Sometimes I wish I'd never moved
home from Germany. It sucks being part of imperialism. Brings me back to this:
Bold added.
The Fake Campaign to Blame ‘the Russians’
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020
Our media has been deliberately passified, look at the
neo-liberals on Kos if you even mention journalists like Glenn Greenwald, they throw a hissy fit.
They like their news massaged and properly messaged just to sooth their needs.
Yes, you might call it
processed news -- kinda like Kraft's "cheese product", it comes pasteurized, homogenized, pre-sliced, and wrapped up in plastic.
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Obama went on during his press conference about
Russians and how unfairly the media treated Hillary. Our country sucks, and I don't think there is anything that will turn it around. Pelosi is banking that everyone will embrace whatever the Dems have to offer after 4 years of Trump.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Yes, yes, SOOO unfair...
I understand Barry... totally...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasZzenuYxI]
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
The kiddies are going to have fun watching Chuck Schumer
sell them down the river next year, I wonder what the excuses will be this time.
It will give them an idea what Hillary would have been like with an R dominated congress.
Markos already wondering
about Chucky. Maybe you're right and maybe Chucky wll be the clue that site So needs. Nah, no such luck.
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Whichever candidate "won"
would have become the target of the country's ire. It was that much of an unpopularity contest. Ultimately, that's worse for us, because making Trump the target leaves the establishment apparently with squeaky-clean hands in the public eye. The establishment will cluck at those foolish, nasty voters who are To Blame for Trump and who really shouldn't have a say in our wonderful country's direction, and re-establish itself as a credible force, using a ridiculous version of anti-racism (about 1 inch deep) as its moral alibi (see, we don't say nasty racist things on TV, so we're the good guys! Well, at least we haven't said nasty racist things on TV for a few years now--so we're the good guys!)
It's pretty awful how many good, smart people are falling for it. I wish they wouldn't.
Aside from global warming and possible nuclear war, that's the main thing that gets me down: all the smart people who fall for this shit.
That said, I'm not sure that they can serve us up Clintons or Bushes anymore. Cory Bookers, Joe Bidens, etc.--maybe.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
One little bit of comfort to
One little bit of comfort to you all, if I may.
FWIW, people I meet in meatspace are generally snorting in disbelief at the claims that Russia hacked the election. So not everyone is believing what our shit ass media is putting out. Then again, I live in WV, the Trumpiest state in the Union.
I come from Essex County Vermont the Trumpiest county in VT
Trump won there with 54% Hillary got about 20% less.
They tend not to believe anything that comes out of DC period.
That's a mighty long list
Of countries where we pursued our agendas. By force. Oh, that we could hack into our entire broadcasting system and run a series of truth bombs on the public airwaves for 24 hours. Then, I'd imagine there'd be a real reason to sound the alarms.
Rec'd and shared.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Let the Truth be heard!
Heads would explode like popcorn,"all over this land".
What is most amazing is that most Americans
don't know any of this. Certainly none of my neighbors do, and they would deny it all as leftist propaganda. But my friends in South Africa know all about it, and they are just normal people, not political analysts or academic historians.
You're right, becuz most
of them watch Fox or MSLSD or CNN, and listen to el Rusbo or Vanity. Network news these days is more about the Kardashians than the Russians. Hillary got so many popular votes becuz those plugged in to the wrong media info voted for her on name recognition (and becuz The Media was cheerleading for her). Those same Hillary voters are mostly clueless about the info distributed via the blogosphere.
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I believe everything
is going to be exposed sooner or later - or at least recordable in some manner that allows exposure.
"If our torture program is exposed again..."
There is too much technological capability to not see or hear everything that is going on. I just hope this capability won't be limited to government and can be used to force the government to be transparent.
(I don't know who possesses the technology besides governments - maybe someone here can enlighten.)
dfarrah
Well, we're now working
with Apache injuns to develop 'net television. On their reservation. Thank the gods they put up with us pale face bastids. Hopefully we'll be running over T-1 by July. I know we aren't the first - TyT - and hopefully won't be the last, but sick'n'tired of losing, we're all about building progressive media.
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"Once again ..."
"We will wrap ourselves in a flag armed with self righteousness to once again impose our will on the world."
Unfortunately, the minions of the government who are sent to impose our will upon the world won't be armed only with self-righteousness --
When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.
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The self-righteousness always seem to be fully weaponized
so as to bring peace to the world through bloodshed.
the empire will fall
They always do. But unfortunately many people will suffer in the meantime.
There is no justice in America, but it is the fight for justice that sustains you.
--Amiri Baraka
So much of this, democracy or not, starts with education
Democracy relies on an educated people. Are we educating our youth? I don't know, I don't have kids. It seems to me that the millenials that I work with know what's going on with regard to the environment and the economy. They are open and wonderful. It's the working slaves, their elders, those trying to carve out a life don't have time for democracy - they say things are f'ed up and we need a strongman to fix it.
I don't know. For what it's worth...