Be happy for coal miners losing their health insurance. - Kos

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I haven't read this book, but the image is too perfect...

I know, I know, who gives a shit what happens at TOP, but sometimes, just sometimes, things happen over there like Dallasdoc's wonderful diary, and I love to read the comments to see what is on people's minds... for better or worse.

Personally, I am currently on a 1 year timeout for various reasons it would seem, primarily being I couldn't stop going into the "StrongerWithHer" diaries and telling people to get over their feefees and stop this bullshit (paraphrasing of course). I might have thrown in a Hillary sucks or two, but hey, she does.

Today, however, we have the Great Orange Leader coming with this utter and total piece-of-shit: Be happy for coal miners losing their health insurance. They're getting exactly what they voted for. I had so much to say about this, and how it reflects the current mindframe of the modern Democratic Party, and how with this thinking, will lead us to yet more electoral loses in 2018 and beyond... but in the end, all I really want to say is the following:

GO FUCK YOURSELF KOS, YOU UNFEELING ASSHOLE. YOU ARE NOT A DEMOCRAT, YOU ARE NOT A PROGRESSIVE, AND YOU ARE AN AMORAL BASTARD. A FUCKING LIMOUSINE LIBERAL IF I'VE EVER FUCKING SEEN ONE. TAKE THE CLINTONS AND GO THE FUCK AWAY PLEASE.

There. My apologies for the French, but it needed to be said.

Peace.

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Markos Moulitsas at work.

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Progressive to the bone.

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it's too weird over there.

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That guy's such a phony, bloviating braggart asshole who flaunts the blood money he's made from his fealty to Wall St. No wonder the douchebag RW owner hired him.

I've challenged him plenty of times in different ways, that his Neoliberal bullshit would get his ass kicked in less than 5 minutes, were he to try the 1% apologist crap he writes on TOP on any street corner from which he derives his dopey moniker from. There are a few who I've relished reaming the asses of, including dhoning, Tuffie, Trix, etc. but none more than the tough-talking phony.

I went back to TOP last night for the first time since I left in April, just to see the reception DD's essay had gotten, and regretted it. More to the point, the willful ignorance and blind partisanship made me appreciate the warmth and generosity of spirit here more than ever.

Here's a few of selections from my greatest BBB hits:

The first was a response to his chronic mockery of Bernie's use of the word "revolution," which was the gist of a speech MLK made about economic inequality, another issue he cluelessly disparaged, just as his Dead Leader did when he remarked, "blah blah oligarchy." (I edited out the long passages of King's speech for some brevity).

The second was a response to his farcical "diary" taking Bernie to task for "not looking presidential" when he gave his economic speech at Georgetown (to a fascist Neoliberal that means covered in red, white and blue, like at the DNC, where we heard prescribed chants of "USA!USA!USA!). Guess he wouldn't have a clue then, to why Bernie and Nelson Mandela were the only two invited guests to a White House black tie function who showed up separately without wearing tuxedos. This gesture of solidarity with the working man and rejection of the self importance of elected officials I'm sure flies right over the heads of Economic Terrorists of Wall St fanboys like BBB and his lame crew at TOP.

Every time I read your garbage I get an image of a Neoliberal water boy coming off the sidelines eagerly, to refresh the big boys who play games with our lives. One clearly wonders if your greatest ambition in life is just to join the Big Club yourself?

Seems like nothing would please you more than to rub elbows in the cigar bar and talk about your portfolio with the assembled Get-Rich-Quick disciples of the “free market” and other bootstrap-pulling up Worshipers of the Rich.

You’re just one, but a ringleader though, of the Somnambulant Neoliberal Cabal here, verifying that yes indeed, there will be no chance of the pitiful careerists in your brethren of Remaining Awake Through a Great Revolution.

On his birthday maybe you should get a little more familiar with MLK’s post-I Have A Dream, sanitized, Santa Claus-ed legacy and his radical revolutionary vision. Smirk all you want, but Economic Inequality was one of the main thrusts of his last few years.

Consider this a “gift,” from a fellow NYC resident:

"And this reveals to us that the most striking thing about the story of Rip Van Winkle is not merely that Rip slept twenty years, but that he slept through a revolution. While he was peacefully snoring up in the mountain a revolution was taking place that at points would change the course of history—and Rip knew nothing about it. He was asleep. Yes, he slept through a revolution. And one of the great liabilities of life is that all too many people find themselves living amid a great period of social change, and yet they fail to develop the new attitudes, the new mental responses, that the new situation demands. They end up sleeping through a revolution…

First, we are challenged to develop a world perspective. No individual can live alone, no nation can live alone, and anyone who feels that he can live alone is sleeping through a revolution. The world in which we live is geographically one. The challenge that we face today is to make it one in terms of brotherhood…

....And to this day thousands of these very persons are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies every years not to farm. And these are so often the very people who tell Negroes that they must lift themselves by their own bootstraps. It’s all right to tell a man to lift himself by his own bootstraps, but it is a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps…

Poor people are forced to pay more for less. Living in conditions day in and day out where the whole area is constantly drained without being replenished. It becomes a kind of domestic colony. And the tragedy is, so often these forty million people are invisible because America is so affluent, so rich. Because our expressways carry us from the ghetto, we don’t see the poor....

And this can happen to America, the richest nation in the world—and nothing’s wrong with that—this is America’s opportunity to help bridge the gulf between the haves and the have-nots. The question is whether America will do it. There is nothing new about poverty. What is new is that we now have the techniques and the resources to get rid of poverty. The real question is whether we have the will.

In a few weeks some of us are coming to Washington to see if the will is still alive or if it is alive in this nation. We are coming to Washington in a Poor People’s Campaign. Yes, we are going to bring the tired, the poor, the huddled masses. We are going to bring those who have known long years of hurt and neglect. We are going to bring those who have come to feel that life is a long and desolate corridor with no exit signs. We are going to bring children and adults and old people, people who have never seen a doctor or a dentist in their lives.

We are not coming to engage in any histrionic gesture. We are not coming to tear up Washington. We are coming to demand that the government address itself to the problem of poverty. We read one day, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." But if a man doesn’t have a job or an income, he has neither life nor liberty nor the possibility for the pursuit of happiness. He merely exists.

We are coming to ask America to be true to the huge promissory note that it signed years ago. And we are coming to engage in dramatic nonviolent action, to call attention to the gulf between promise and fulfillment; to make the invisible visible…
On some positions, cowardice asks the question, is it expedient? And then expedience comes along and asks the question, is it politic? Vanity asks the question, is it popular? Conscience asks the question, is it right?

There comes a time when one must take the position that is neither safe nor politic nor popular, but he must do it because conscience tells him it is right. I believe today that there is a need for all people of goodwill to come with a massive act of conscience and say in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "We ain’t goin’ study war no more." This is the challenge facing modern man.

Let me close by saying that we have difficult days ahead in the struggle for justice and peace, but I will not yield to a politic of despair. I’m going to maintain hope as we come to Washington in this campaign. The cards are stacked against us. This time we will really confront a Goliath. God grant that we will be that David of truth set out against the Goliath of injustice, the Goliath of neglect, the Goliath of refusing to deal with the problems, and go on with the determination to make America the truly great America that it is called to be.

I say to you that our goal is freedom, and I believe we are going to get there because however much she strays away from it, the goal of America is freedom. Abused and scorned though we may be as a people, our destiny is tied up in the destiny of America."

Political Revolution.

On poverty, corruption in politics, police brutality, a broken criminal justice system, the bank's strangehold over our lives, monopoly corporate control over all our resources, failing education system. The triple evils of racism, militarism and capitalism. Martin Luther King Jr vowed to take them all on.

Socialism is the only humane and dignified answer. Only through compassion and empathy will we be able to survive together, in a brotherhood of man.

We. Not me.

It’s not all about you. Or me.

Wake up brother.

thirty three and a third brooklynbadboy
Nov 20 · 09:29:06 PM

Clinton vs. Trump will be the political equivalent of Dancing With The Stars meets Survivor celebrity spectacle, with the two well-known figures enmeshed in a fight to the death of trying to out-tough talk each other into the White House (caveat: I’ve never seen more than a minute of these shows and may be mixing them up).

By the end of October 2016 Hillary will be promising major battalions of Army, Air Force and Marines to be lined up throughout the Mexican border, simultaneous bombing campaigns on four different continents, stripping away all welfare programs to make way for austerity, promising a return to her husband’s Three Strikes policy in order to appease fear-laden white voters with tough-on-crime/law and order promises and of course, more cabinet positions for the savvy Economic Terrorists who have cut $30 million worth of checks to the family.

The possibilities for ugliness, venality, crassness, dystopia and mind-numbing pandering in that scenario are endless.

At least they had a good time together at Trump’s daughter’s wedding though. And there’s sure to be lots of American flags every time she’s on stage. So you should feel more assured than having had to suffer yesterday through Bernie’s grumpiness at Georgetown where he dared not to be swimming in red, white and blue, forced to explain over and over how the system has been hijacked by wealthy interests.

When the Neoliberal ringleader running interference for the oligarchs BBB wasn’t predicting with full confidence his wet dream of Monarchy in America resulting in the 2016 race of Bush vs. Clinton Redux, he was defending our own Uber-Capitalist/Cold War Warior against their World Wrestling version when it seemed his prognostication would be way off. 

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

"We don't want you and we will win without you."

That he still shows up and has any credibility over there is reason enough for me to never return to TOP, even if I am curious to see the pants-shitting Dallasdoc has inspired.

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I was the target of at least one of his condescending lectures about why Bernie lost the primary because he didn't pander to POC enough and his rubbing in on the "BernieBros" epithet even as women and people of color decried the implicit racism and sexism in that phrase.

He's just an ass, like his master, Markos.

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Love ya, mean it

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I so love being made invisible and inaudible.

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Condescending, the likes of BBB walk among this earth like they were anointed by God himself when the reality is that a serious illness, the loss of income, and the bitter lessons of humility would kick his ass so hard, he'd be reduced to flotsam in the sea of wounded humanity. Another raw beating heart, curled up in a fetal position praying for a merciful end. Although I suspect if we were to give him statistics on suicide rates among the desperate souls who have lost everything, he'd suggest they wouldn't be missed.

Gold standard prick if there ever was one.

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I didn't know what a Neoliberal was...

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This was in a thread about Angela Merkel accusing Russia of trying to destabilize Germany and attack the 2017 elections...

In the end I told him to stick his condescending attitude up his ass, but the Republicans were already going to stick a big Red, White, and Blue dick up his ass for him...

He had one of those Star Wars Bernie Sanders memes as his cover pic. (Return of the Jedi 2020 with a pic of Bernie). I told him Yoda dies in RoTJ Lol

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that your bird photography is of far more general interest than that poster's dribblings.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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Gut wrenching agitation for me during this election. Dozens of Real Life friends have displayed just what political tools they are for the Masters of the Universe that I have nothing left to say to them. Last time I was on FB they were blaming Comey, entrenched racism, lazy voters, misogyny, and all the other excuses on TOP rec list, so I imagine they are sounding the alarm and outrage over the Russians right about now. Maybe I'll be able to salvage some of the goodwill I had with them previous to the election when things calm down. Then again, maybe not.

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His definition of neoliberalism sounds about right, if one looks past the attitude. What would you have said differently?

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is a nasty piece of work, but DOV may be worse.

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Coal mining (if there is any reason to have it at all) should be done by T-800 terminators and no humans. Terminators don't get black lung.
Of course, all Hillary had to offer was jobs at Wall-Mart for the grandmothers of ex miners, that was the Democrats' losing strategy in coal country. Bernie would have offered construction jobs rebuilding roads and bridges and laying new railroad tracks, "but the construction companies would just import mexican laborers like the railroad companies imported Chinese in the 1870s" - so Kentucky, Tennessee, and W. Virginia were pretty likely lost anyway, at least in 2016.

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On to Biden since 1973

I reckon a couple of fairly simple algorithms could replace BBB in his entirety.

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They're hosed unless the Trumpster spends that $Trllion and hires those miners. And, sadly, not just miners.

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or at least jobs paid by the government; thus all we have to do is specify in the contracts that they must use American materials and workers.

Bernie also offered jobs in renewable energy, IIRC. Bernie won West Virginia and coal-mining Kentucky (they tied in the whole state) in the primaries. Hill won Tennessee, but I couldn't find how she fared in the coal-mining parts.

Hill came to KY (where I am) and shrugged off the loss of coal jobs. Bern was empathetic. It made all the difference in the world.

KY went for Clinton the Bill in a big way. That they went for Trump so bigly tells me they never forgave Clinton the Hill for that shrug.

I've been saying for years, the woman is tone deaf. Among many other things, of course.

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He's a piece of work from is icon on up.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

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It is all he talks about.

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Be happy for coal miners losing their health insurance. They're getting exactly what they voted for.

Coal miners would rather lose their health insurance than vote for a Democrat.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

would rather not have to pay fo some damn "bronze plan" - they'd rather have food.
I know, there's always Medicaid, but that's "charity".

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The Byrd family dynasty of WV comes to mind.

And they hated Hillary - but were good with Bernie Sanders, who trounced her in ALL the coal counties of WV and KY, and even edged her out in the PA coalfields.

Which just goes to show - yet again - that the Dems could have won this election if they really wanted to.

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he - Gore - spent one day touring WV with Byrd, Byrd would guarantee WV would vote for Gore. Gore couldn't be stirred to accept the help from the most powerful man in the Senate, and had he gotten those 4 or 5 votes, Florida would not have mattered.

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Coal miners would rather lose their health insurance than vote for

.... Hillary Clinton, who snubbed them and their jobs repeatedly during the campaign.

A surprising number of them and their family members would have been happy to vote for Bernie Sanders. Of course, Bernie didn't shun, minimize, or snub them. He recognized their griefs and made it clear that he really did feel their pain. Her Heinous brushed them and their concerns aside. And she reaped a bumper crop of what she so sowed. That "TRUMP" graffito with which Markos opened his disgusting little diary may as well have been painted by her own two hands. Its existence is entirely her doing.

Bad

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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are making Dan Aykroyd look articulate.

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The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.

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As it happens he lives in my neck of the woods, about 15 miles from my house as the crow flies. But I haven't seen him in years. Operates in stealth mode apparently. Or, hell, maybe he's moved.

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Damn, had to sign in to rec that!

And it is hard to believe that anyone not paid to say so/utterly brainwashed could object to the notion of anyone holding a non-upper-management job ever having had a decent life, although I have no idea which applies in either of the examples Bob Johnson provided.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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On my twitter who don't know better sending me links from Dailykos with the idea that I might agree with them because I hate Trump.

Brand salvaging time, it seems. When in doubt, punch some hippies and all the pundits will agree that you're legit.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

intended to dance on Hillary's political grave. So the other day I visited BBB to do just that.

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I would imagine.

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who are down and out is not a true liberal value. Markos is once again showing his elitist arrogance for those who did not make it and refuse to continue down the same voting path that has ignored them for too long.

The underlying ethos behind all neoliberals is the myth of meritocracy. It allows them to look down on those they believe to be inferior without any guilt. Markos is a perfect example of that meritocratic hubris.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Half of Americans hold none of the nation's wealth: 50% are have-nots.

In the past 40 years, American families have had to work an increase of one-third hours to offset the decline in hourly wages for male workers and stagnant earnings for families.

Americans have been working harder since the Carter administration and have nothing but debt and stagnant incomes to show for the effort.

There is little or no upward class mobility. The American Dream is now the American Lie.

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

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OMG Jazzenterprises! I wish I'd had the nerve to say all you said to Markos. When I GBCW'd yesterday, I only called him a prick. I'm such a wimp!

I wanted to be banned from that goddamned place. I do not want to be associated with it in any positive way, as I am ashamed of what it became.

As a West Virginian, I wish I could tell Markos and any other dickwad "liberal" to fuck off, eat shit, and die right to their goddamned faces.

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become the "Party For Only Some Of The People.......Not Those Nasty Mean Ones"?

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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a nasty, mean entity these days. Mark Selfa argues that it's always been that way. Here's my nuanced review:

https://cassiodorusblog.wordpress.com/2016/03/23/book-review-selfas-the-...

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The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.

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the Democratic Party has “provided the bulk of political space where certain ‘out’ groups in society — such as Blacks or labor unions — have been accepted into the political mainstream” (p. 34) without really doing much in the way of power-sharing with the elites who make the decisions.

This comes from your review of Selfa's book, which book I have not read. I wonder if you or anyone could enlighten me as to what benefit there is to be allowed into the "political mainstream" when the elites allow such persons neither oars or a tiller?

I do not believe change will come in the Democratic Party from within, despite Sanders, Warren et. al. The Democratic Party must and will die on the vine like the Whigs, to which I say, good riddance.

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there was any benefit at all to being part of the Democratic Party, and that the so-called "Left" ought to create or join another party right away. IMHO his main point, that the Democratic Party is a graveyard for movements, stands -- though it's still hard to tell at this point if the masses as a whole are going to jettison the Democratic Party.

(At any rate, explaining Selfa's position was the fun of writing that book review -- and first posting it to Daily Kos, a site for partisan Democrats. (Of course I've deleted all my diaries over there, and I no longer even comment...))

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The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.

to hear a bit about what goes on there. I'll get too pissed off, and I really noticed the difference once I left that place for good in April I believe. I went back a few times after the edict but would just get mad every time. I got the good from that place by following the good to this place, so I'm glad for that but just won't give them any clicks at all. I do remember BBB and I may have tangled a bit with him once or twice but gave that up quickly. An asshole who enjoys being one, smug, arrogant, certain. Good metaphor for that whole place from what I see of their comments. It is good to know what the dark side is up to though, never hurts to keep your eye on their latest bullshit to know what to rebut. Just like the MSM, I rely on what I hear here and a few headlines so I can rebut what my friends might hear and try to counter it.

Edit to add: As for celebrating anyone losing medical insurance, particularly coal miners? I'm sorry but no. I get pissed at Repugnants and their voting habits too, but to be smugly happy about that is sickening. And the height of arrogance, they apparently believe they're immune under a Democrat. Jeez, there's really no point in arguing with that level of stupid.

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both on the Rec List for an extended time yesterday, Bob Johnson's still on the Rec List even now.

There's not much else I agree with Bob Johnson about, but these diaries were works of beauty.

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If anyone ever reads the "raised by narcissists" subreddit you will recognise the red flags he throws off.

A nasty, spiteful, bitter little man.

Now one thing I WILL be happy about is watching DK pin wheel slowly into the ground.

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Kos is the Trot turd that swings fascist in later years.

If anyone ever reads the "raised by narcissists" subreddit you will recognise the red flags he throws off.

Do please allow me to support your excellent point while providing our fellow c99ers an alternative to plunging headlong into the reddit wilderness. The characteristics of Kos (and those who resemble him in these respects such as Denise Oliver Velez and Brooklyn Bad Boy) we agree are so vile and repugnant are listed rather nicely in an anonymous comment posted to Lisa E. Scott's blog, and which I quote below:

Characteristics of Injustice Collectors

1. Injustice collectors are never wrong. How is it possible that they are never wrong? It's simple: They are always right.

2. Injustice collectors never apologize. Ever. For anything.

3. Injustice collectors truly believe they are morally and ethically superior to others and that others seem incapable of holding themselves to the same high standards as the injustice collector does.

4. Injustice collectors make the rules, break the rules and enforce the rules of the [community]. They are a combination of legislator, police, judge and jury to those they consider their subjects. They forever banish from their kingdom any subject they deem disloyal, and only grant clemency if there is sufficient (in their eyes) contrition.

5. Injustice collectors never worry about what is wrong with them as their "bad" list grows. Their focus is always on the failings of others.

6. Injustice collectors are never troubled by the disparity between their rules for others and their own expectations of themselves. Injustice collectors rationalize their own behavior with great ease and comfort.

7. Injustice collectors have an external orientation; the problem always exists in the world, outside of themselves, and in their view, the world would be an acceptable place if their rules and standards were followed at all times.

8. Injustice collectors do not have a capacity for remorse, empathy or guilt.

9. Injustice collectors scoff at the idea of therapy, therapists, self-help books, and other tools used by people who struggle to live with them.

10. The phrase "walking on eggshells" describes life with an injustice collector.

11. The IC (injustice Collector) will prey upon your weaknesses to frame all issues in their terms.

12. IC's will always cry foul when you are 'mean' to them and accuse you of being nasty when you are confronting them with their negative behavior.

13. They are titanically insecure and cannot trust anyone. All relationships they have, even with their own parents and children and trustless and must be reinforced by subordination over and over.

14. They can only strengthen relationships through imprisoning their mates and banning behaviors and other relationships. Friends and family are a huge threat to the IC.

15. They must repetitively revisit situations where you service them, give in to them and agree with them. They will over time shrink your world to a small plot of empty activities that only they like. They are terrified of travel, meeting new people, understanding new concepts and paroling you from any punishment they have previously 'convicted' you of.

16. They do not care about you at all, they care about aggrandizing themselves with you as an assistant producer.

17. They will occasionally do something for you, but if you are not completely brainwashed, it will be a negative experience for you in the end. Example is throwing you a birthday party. I guarantee you will not have fun at your own party.

18. They will force you to choose between them and other things you like or love. The more you choose them, the more they will make you choose them over and over. They do not understand the concept of loyalty at all.

19. Hypocrisy is their modus operandi for debating and arguing with you. Everything they say about you is true about them. (aka Projection) It makes it so you try to 'win' fights by getting them to agree with you, which they never can because their whole position is false.

20. Your life will disappear into their lives. Your hopes and dreams will fade, even in your own mind. You will eat what they want, you will watch what they want on TV, you will vacation where they want, or not at all.

I think I might register at Lisa's blog just to keep this comment alive -- as it needs to be, eternally.

Wink

A nasty, spiteful, bitter little man.

In very deed. A fact which took me by surprise at first, but no more. You don't work as hard as Kos has and spend the cash that Kos has spent establishing yourself as a limousine "liberal" asshole by accident. Yet that's exactly what he has done, "in spades", as the saying goes.

Now one thing I WILL be happy about is watching DK pin wheel slowly into the ground.

From your keyboard straight to Cat's eyes! Yet, I fear not so. There are enough limousiners out there to keep DK in business indefinitely, I fear. And enough of BBB/DOV's ilk alone, alas.

Sad

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More than half of the traits of injustice collectors apply to Borderline Personality types, who, in large part see themselves as victims and have no qualms on discomfiting others to build their own self-esteem--an impossible task.

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I must confess I'm not feeling too proud of my insults or glee at DK's hoped for failure right now.

MMZ's glee at the misfortune of coal miners was literally jaw dropping for me. If only from a site/personal brand perspective. Watching who rec'd it was also interesting - last I looked most of the DK team bar MB had.

If this is how the Dem party or activist base is going to proceed then that 3rd party opening on the left is a vacuum howling to be filled.

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But I get your point.

And as for "you got what you voted for", the candidate Kos preferred told coal miners in both Ohio and WV that their jobs were gone. What exactly did Kos think would happen to their health insurance under the other candidate's scenario? Because "jobs gone" equal coal companies shut down & bankrupt.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markos_Moulitsas

Here's the interesting passage:

Moulitsas was born in Chicago, Illinois, to a Salvadoran mother and a Greek father. He moved with his family to El Salvador in 1976, but later returned to the Chicago area in 1980 after his family fled when threats were placed on their lives by communist insurgents during the Salvadoran Civil War.[2]

And here's the reference:

"About Daily Kos". Daily Kos. Retrieved August 27, 2009.

Those commies. Anyone want to guess what Markos Moulitsas was doing in El Salvador between 1976 and 1980? I guess he's "ex-CIA" too...

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The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.

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Markos has actually admitted to working for the CIA in the past.

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Did exactly the same thing when he pulled the rug out from under the economy of the rural Northwest. They voted for him and in fact had voted heavily democrat for over 70 years. They certainly learned their lesson they now vote republican well except for Bernie.

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in Kos's petulant remarks and BBB's more extravagant display of pure stoopid amorality is an underlying accusation: How dare you poor, ignorant people not accept the bits and scraps we may happen to throw your way? How dare you not accept us as your morally superior and maybe probably but not really benevolent overlords! HOW DARE YOU! Well, you'll get what's coming to you now!

As though the "screw 'em" attitude liberal Democrats are now feeling comfortable expressing hasn't already been crystal clear to the large swaths of the country totally abandoned by the neoliberal consensus. There's a total failure of thoughtfulness here. Total.

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NO! I WILL NEVER BE HAPPY AT ANOTHER PERSON’S SUFFERING. I WILL NEVER BE HAPPY THAT SOME CHILD IS SICK AND CAN’T SEE A DOCTOR, THAT AN EXPECTANT MOTHER CAN’T RECEIVE PROPER PRENATAL CARE. WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES AND THAT DESPERATELY POOR AND ILL EDUCATED PEOPLE ARE EASILY DUPED AND OTHERWISE MAKE POOR CHOICES BUT WE DO NOT CELEBRATE THAT.

I'm not easily shocked but the total and complete compassion or consideration of the implications made me physically sick at my stomach. It is pure primitive Calvinism and the antithesis of everything I stand for.

I did post last week that I didn't believe it was an issue that merited a government shout down. Yes I think it's reasonable that people accept some degree of consequences for their actions. Shutdowns are very unpopular and if you care going to use the ultimate option it must be saved to defend something that vastly has the public on your side. The obvious one is that the Democrats can only gain by going the last mile to save it. Miners go somewhat to the back of the bus but it isn't something to crow about and we still need to stand ready to ameliorate their suffering

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You may have given a few people food for thought.

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Seems some posters had the right spirit and condemned whats-his-face. If TOP represents the liberal vanguard of the democrat party, then it is a fun house at closing time.

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