The bigger the outrage, the the bigger the pushback, the more likely it is to be true. Viz. Goebbels, J. Why did Podesta, the Thin, as opposed to Podesta the Fat, mention looking forward with excitement when visiting a political ally to a hot dog stand. Aren't there enough hot dog stands in D.C.? Why does Podesta the Thin have Jeffrey Dahmer like statuary in his home such as decapitated, hyperextended figures similar to the way Dahmer posed some of his victims? Has anyone seen the weird painting photographed at Comet Pizza? Somebody please explain that or the painting of child bondage at Fat Tony's home.

Does anybody wonder why the FBI snatched up evidence derived from A. Wiener's laptop (what a name!) if this was only about sexting?

And what about the owner and Brock's ex-boyfriend "James Alefantis"? His name could be rendered as J'mais l'enfants without much trouble.

Much more to come. Funny, I seem to have lost my taste for pizza and hot dogs recently.

I found my way to r/wikileaks a week or so before the Podesta e-mails that triggered all this came out. I was hanging out ALOT (if my computer was on, a window was open to r/wikileaks) and saw the whole process from "Hmm, what's this?" when the e-mails and their odd phrasing/syntax was discovered, to "Umm, guys?" to "This isn't real." to "ohhhhh shit..."

Nobody was looking for anything pedo related when the two e-mails that originally piqued interest were released. The syntax/phrasing was odd, people figured it for a code and started trying to puzzle it out. After a few days, someone found a FBI list of pedo-slang/codewords. When read as slang, the e-mails made creepy sense.

IMHO, the two e-mails didn't convince the majority of eventual pizzagaters (such as myself). Alot of eyebrows went up but... Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Enter SpiritCooking, Marina Abramovic, some pretty dark art/artists surrounding children, one reallllllly questionable photo on Instagram, and Madeleine Mccann. And all that on top of what was already common, well-proven knowledge about the Clinton's associations with Jeffrey Epstein/Lolita Express. (besides WJC's frequent flyer miles, most people don't know Epstein's madam/procurer had a front row seat at Chelsea's wedding)

People were motivated to start digging. iirc, it was mostly via Maria Abramovic, the connection to James Alefantis & Comet Ping Pong were originally made. And from there shit gets really "no-effing-way" unreal very quickly. IMHO, discovery of the SpiritCooking stuff allowed the majority of pizzagaters to entertain the possibility there's some genuine pedo/ritual abuse going on.

From there, its not a very large conceptual leap to consider the broader problem/idea of sex/child trafficking and its history, both in the US and worldwide. People started looking into "pizzagate" in that context and found Comet Ping Pong, et.al., fit a certain profile way to well and, even uglier, Clinton Foundation actions in Haiti and other 3rd world countries they operate don't always make sense unless there's some sort of questionable motive.

Pizzagate has now evolved to be as much a reference the global child-trafficking/abuse as anything at Comet Ping Pong. Most of the original pizzagaters have evolved in their beliefs as well. Most who go down the rabbit-hole and look into just recent events in the US find there's a huge dearth of convictions and arrests relative to investigations and publicly available information. There's also a pattern of investigations getting stopped and major stories stories getting held back.

Admittedly, alot most 99% of the SMOKING GUN!!!!1!! posts about pizzagate are exercises in confirmation bias. That still leaves some questionable stuff.

The Instagram photos are an excellent example. Most of the photos getting attention probably have innocent explanations. However, the chickenlover Instagram photo... There's clearly intentional symbolism in the pic.

Another example is the logo/graphics stuff. I'm an artist with graphic design/layout xp and, again, the overwhelming majority of what is getting posted is almost certainly aesthetic/style choices devoid of pedo meaning. However, for a coincidence, the original Comet Pizza logo with the triangle-spiral perfectly matched the triangle-spiral in pedo code.

There's just too many small red flags, to much stuff. Its like a doctor or a teacher who keeps seeing a patient or student come in with scrapes and bruises. How many times can a kid fall off their bicycle or someone's spouse trip down the stairs before red flags go up?

The Madeleine Mccann kidnapping is a good example of the "too much stuff" idea. Normally, most of us would consider the police sketches one of those really weird coincidences, be glad we don't look like the Podestas and quietly hope we never look like someone in a police sketch. Most of us would justifiably and reasonably give the Podestas a pass. Shit does happen. But then you find out the Podestas were probably staying at a nearby house at the same time and John P. was having an assistant answer his e-mails during that period and the Mccann's story is, at best, an exercise in negligent parenting...

Too. Much. Weird. Shit.

Personally, the phrasing/syntax of the two pizza e-mails *(handkerchief & domino/pizza/pasta)* piqued my interest but was hardly enough to convince me of anything. It was the conjunction with SpiritCooking, Abramavic and Tony's abused-kid art collection that convinced me to start looking into it on my own. Nothing I've learned since, either specific to Pizzagate or the wider pedos-among-the-powerful concept has done anything to alleviate suspicions.

Ah, speaking of innocent-ish explanations... In and of itself, TP's art collection wouldn't have raised a red flag. People groove on weird shit well past their teenage years. Not knowing the guy but putting myself in his shoes, my first impression would be a) he's trying to shock people or b) this is how he deals with messed up shit from his own childhood. However, given everything else... There's a recurring theme here. TP's art collection is a good example of "one more thing" that became a tipping point for many to seriously consider pizzagate. A consistent need for "innocent explanations" keeps popping up when the Podestas and too many of their associates.

Do your own research on the Clinton Foundation. There's no smoking gun but there's a f-ton of questionable choices/events/associations. CF activities in Haiti absolutely need to be investigated. As does the "suicide" of Monica Peterson. Before her "suicide" shortly before the US elections, Monica Peterson was in Haiti investigating human trafficking and had found links to the Clinton Foundation.

Folks want to be all in denial about this stuff b/c "that kind of thing doesn't happen" and the overwhelming majority of us are decent sorts who prefer to "assume goodwill". BUT... there's quite a few well-proven stories/cases of the powerful engaging in regular pedophilia and ritual sex abuse. Its also seriously ugly crap to wade into and most people don't want to think about it. Do your own research on Larry King/Boystown, Jimmy Saville, The Presidio and ritual child/sex abuse. One starts coming across brief splashes of news that quietly go away. Like this one from Anderson Cooper.

A pattern emerges. There's to much smoke for there not to be fire.

that the more they try to discredit a story/candidate the more credibility it receives.

Basically, if CNN says it's false, then most people think it's true.

Call it the Anderson Cooper 180 effect.

The story is being made so out-there and unbelievable that no-one will believe accusations of pedophilia against the Clintons or their associates now no matter what the evidence is.

It's sort of like salting the earth. You salt the earth so you can be sure nothing will grow there. You spread an extreme, crazy version of a story, focusing on one DC pizzeria and one story of something that might have been kinky performance art using "Satanic" imagery, to bring out all the craziest people in support of the accusations. That way, you can hide whatever actual abuse occurred in the whirlwind of shit.

Imagine if the 60 minutes of the early 70's investigated the charges of child trafficking through the Clinton Foundation. Hell, even imagine if someone decided to investigate the Podesta's based on the weird uses of "pizza" and "pasta" in his emails, rather than focusing on a DC pizza joint and its basement, rather than the religious right freaking out over the suggestion of Satanism.

I don't have any proof whatsoever whether there is a pedophile ring in the upper echelons of the DC political elite, particularly those who cluster around Bill and Hillary Clinton. As far as I'm concerned, the evil they've done in the open is quite enough to condemn them. However, I could wish that our society still had the capacity for actual rational investigation of this sort of thing, truthful reporting on it, etc., because if that is going on, there's a lot of people suffering--and their suffering will be forever hidden by a whirling shitstorm.

If what I think is happening is happening--
it's like a character assassination being done on a story instead of a person. Kind of like what political consultants do when they want to undermine the idea that global warming is happening--sowing doubt.