Monday Open Thread 12/28/2015
There are only 3 days left in 2015
28 is 4 x 7 (more later)
28 is the sum of the first natural numbers. 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 = 28 28 is the sum of the first primes. 2+3+5+7+11 = 28 28 is the sum of the first non-primes 1+4+6+8+9 = 28 28 is the only known number that can can be expressed as all 3 of the above sums. For example 36 is also the sum of the first natural numbers (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8), but not a sum of first primes or first non-primes. 10 is the sum of the first primes (2+3+5) and natural numbers (1+2+3+4) but not the first non-primes (1+4+6). 28 is the atomic mass of Silicon 28 is the atomic number of Nickel 28 is the number of days in the average human menstrual cycle. 28 is the number of days in February in a normal year 28 is the number of dominoes in a standard domino set 28 is the number of grams in an ounce
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Holy Shit, Batman, 28 is 4 x 7! Accordingly, x/28, whenever x =4n, is the same as n/7 which gets us back to the freaky repeating decimal (0.142857) discussed on the 7th, the 14th and the 21st. The decimal part of n/7 where n is a natural number not a multiple of 999,999 or 7 is the remainder x 0.142857 repeated on out to infinity. n/14 has similar rules, as does n/21, and n/28 which is, for example ...
1/28 = 0.0357142857142857 & repeat 142857 indefinitely 2/28 = 1/14 = 0.07142857142857 & repeat 142857 indefinitely 3/28 = 0.107142857142857 & repeat 142857 indefinitely 4/28 = 1/7 = 0.142857142857 & repeat 142857 indefinitely 5/28 = 0.17857142857 & repeat 142857 indefinitely
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28 BCE Year of the First Consulship of Octavian and Agrippa The earliest dated record of a sunspot by Chinese astronomers on May 10. 28 CE The Year of the Consulship of Augustus and Caesar
On December 28 in: 1612 -- Galileo Galilei became the first astronomer to observe the planet Neptune, but mistakenly catalogued it as a fixed star. 1835 -- Osceola led his Seminole warriors into the Second Seminole War against the United States. 1836 -- Spain recognized the independence of Mexico. 1867 -- The U. S. claimed Midway Atoll, the first territory annexed outside continental limits. 1895 -- Wilhelm Röntgen published a paper detailing his discovery of a new type of radiation, later called x-rays. 1972 -- Kim Il-sung, already Prime Minister of North Korea and First Secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea, becme the first President of North Korea. 1973 -- The Endangered Species Act was passed in the United States. 2000 -- U.S. retail giant Montgomery Ward announced it is going out of business after 128 years. 2010 -- Popular protests against the government begin in Algeria; the start of the Arab Spring. The following people were born on this day in: 1856 -- Woodrow Wilson, American historian and politician, 28th President of the United States, Nobel Prize laureate. 1882 -- Arthur Eddington, English astronomer, physicist, and mathematician. 1903 -- Earl Hines, American pianist and bandleader. 1915 -- Pops Staples, American singer-songwriter and guitarist (The Staple Singers). 1921 -- Johnny Otis, American singer-songwriter and producer. 1948 -- Mary Weiss, American singer (The Shangri-Las). 1950 -- Alex Chilton, American singer-songwriter, guitarist, and producer (The Box Tops and Big Star). 1969 -- Linus Torvalds, Finnish-American computer programmer, developed Linux kernel. The following people died on this day in: 1503 -- Piero the Unfortunate, Italian ruler. Unfortunately 1937 -- Maurice Ravel, French pianist and composer. 1947 -- Victor Emmanuel III of Italy. King during WWI, WWII, and the rise and fall of Mussolini's Fascist state. 1963 -- Paul Hindemith, German violinist, composer, and conductor. 1983 -- Dennis Wilson, American drummer, songwriter, and producer (The Beach Boys). 1992 -- Sal Maglie, American baseball player and coach. Sal "the Barber". 1993 -- William L. Shirer, American journalist and historian. 2004 -- Susan Sontag, American author and academic.
Today's musical assortment is a serious mismatch in many respects, but here we go:
Earl "Fatha" Hines:
The Shangri Las:
Maurice Ravel - Bolero
Paul Hindemith: (Modern Classical)
Pops Staples a major figure deserving his own article - The Staples Singers:
The Box Tops
The Beach Boys, who never played Surf Music. They played "The California Sound" (think Jan and Dean). Later on they replaced hot rod themed lyrics with surf themed lyrics, but still played "little Deuce Coupe" - "Be True To Your School" music, using none the the stylistic and musical attributes of real surf music (think "Walk don't Run", "Pipeline", "Agua Caliente", Wipe-Out", etc.). And that's that, so help me Rhonda. Rant mode off.
Johnny Otis deserves a huge article. Singer, songwriter, composer, arranger, bandleader, disc jockey, producer, and more.
From his website: http://www.johnnyotisworld.com/biography.html
Johnny Otis discovered many legendary Rhythm and Blues singers such as Esther Phillips, Willie Mae "Big Momma" Thornton, Etta James, and the Robins (who later evolved into the Coasters), all of whom were at one time featured vocalists in his band. He also discovered Sugar Pie DeSanto, Hank Ballard and the Midnighters, Jackie Wilson, and Little Willie John. He produced, and with his band played on the original recording of "Hound Dog" with "Big Momma" Thornton. He produced and played on Johnny Ace's "Pledging My Love", and produced some of Little Richard's earliest recordings. On his own Blues Spectrum lable, Johnny recorded and played with Rhythm & Blues pioneers such as Big Joe Turner, Gatemouth Moore, Amos Milburne, Richard Berry, Joe Liggins, Roy Milton, Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson, Charles Brown, and Louis Jordan. Johnny played the drums on Charles Brown's first major hit "Driftin' Blues" in 1946. He also recorded with Illinois Jacquet, and Lester Young. One of the many highlights of his long career was when he performed as a drummer with the great Count Basie Orchestra.
Himself, early:
And later:
Big Mama's Hound Dog (Johnny Otis arrangement)
Little Esther (and the Johnny Otis Quintet)
Little Esther (Johnny Otis Orchestra)
The Robins in the slammer
and Down at Smokey Joe's
Anybody up for Etta?
with the weather report
Sugar Pie DeSanto:
in her soulful dress.
Etta & Sugar Pie:
Comments
Good morning. Meadowlark Lemon died,
Sunday in Scottsdale, at 83. R.I.P. Here's Etta & Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson:
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
pops staples
told daughter Mavis she should go on ahead and marry Bob Dylan. But she didn't listen.
Dylan:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7V7OMw7tg8]
The Beach Boys not playing this
I understand the screed...that's a trick you see, using the word screed to minimize anyone you disagree with. It's very much like an ad hominem attack and means nothing...anyway, I really mean I understand the point about the Beach Boys' hits not being real surf music but they did do a few Dick Dale tunes.
dennis wilson
was an actual surfer, and it was he who suggested to brother Brian that he form a group and write surf songs. Thus, the Beach Boys.
Though not a surfer, and though it's not surf music, Lindsey Buckingham wrote a nice song about Dennis.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SAsNNq3piA]
Yeah, I knew that one of them did surf, but I
forgot which one. That is a very interesting piece by Buckingham.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Well I'll be damned. And they do it ok, too. I think my
favorite version of that is by, of all people, The Cornells. It was on their 1965 Beachbound Album, but I can't find it on You Tube.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Here's the title cut from Beachbound.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
very cool sound!
I'd never heard of them but I like it! Duane Eddy-ish guitar. Very nice.
They wre a bunch of Hollywood brats, star's kids.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Brian said they were
not a surf band . Dennis was the only surfing Beach Boy. As a young 'un from Southern California who's brother who was a awesome gremmie surfer, I say they did play surf music. Surf music was more then Wipe Out or Pipeline it was a strange combination of influences much like Reggae is/was. Doo Wops, folk music, Mexican guitar music, Trad jazz/ skilffle, early rock and roll a regular mish mash of California beach pop culture. The Beach Boys grew up in Hawthorne a suburb?city right next to Manhattan beach. They seem to me to be a reflection of that culture moving from hot rod/car songs to surf music as it became more popular. Brian has said he didn't even really like surf music that much, but they caught the wave of surf music.
The first real band I ever saw on my own live was Dick Dale and the Del Tones. I saved my allowance and took the ferry from Balboa Island to an amusement park on Newport Isle where he was playing in a tent. This band played many of the songs I had heard played by beach bonfires by surfers up and down the coast as I accompanied my brother and his fellow surfers on their surfing safari's. I liked the all early Beach Boy songs but when they got too creepy Americana and car concentric I dropped out of being a fan. Years later when Brian started doing his truly brilliant own music I tuned in again. When he hooked up with Van Dyke Parks that really got my attention. Good Vibrations blew me away. Smiley smile Pet sounds and Wild Honey are great albums.
Here's their version of a favorite song of surfers
early Beach Boys playing the part of being surfers...
One of my favorites from Smiley Smile
Another good one....
So I guess your right they were not a surf band but they did play surf music.
OK, I grew up in San Diego (OB to be specific), Graduated from
High School in '64. Nobody I knew considered their music to be surf music, though, when they played real surf music, like that version of Miserlou, they were clearly playing surf music. Their own stuff, however, not so much. Certain musical influences just did not make into their own compositions which were much more Jan and Dean centric or influenced. There's some Mexican undertones, some Duane Eddy, something almost middle-eastern/north african/caribbean, some echo and reverb, a lot less focus on lyrics and things I really can't define that were the crux of surf sound. In fact, things like Night Train came closer to surf than stuff like Surfin' Safari. Caravan, which was Les Paul, was covered in surf style by a lot of bands because of some of those elements and influences, like Miserlou and Malaguena, both of which got played a lot too..
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
I got into this group through Joanne Leon years ago on DK
she wrote a diary What's Happening
and Joe Shickpack in is Evening Blues would link to her final diary
What's Happenin'? On Hiatus
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/10/1261576/-What-s-Happenin-On-Hiatus
she had the usual trolls kick the crap our of her on the way out
she talked about starting another web site for the last 4 years and that effort she was part of in the beginning, along with Joe and others, morphed into this Caucus99% site
for a while I followed her on twiter but she posted too much for my taste so I stopped following her
i found her on twitter this morning and sure enough she continues at an incredible rate having posted 123K tweets
just going down a little bit I found that she posted an article on Kevin Gosztola's new web site, Shadowproof - hot off the press without one comment yet. You could go over there and say hello.
https://shadowproof.com/2015/12/28/forces-backed-by-america-and-russia-m...
with the title
Next Cold War Roundup 12/28/15
Kurds and New Syrian Democratic Forces Coalition Seize Tishrin Dam, Cross Erdogan’s Red Line (The Euphrates River), Poised to Cut ISIS Supply Lines
Does anyone here follow her on twitter?
Yes, to both
love joanne,
I follow Joanne but I don't follow Twitter very much
I think I'm too slow for Tweeting. I followed it 24/7 during the
ill-fated Iranian revolution but not much since then.
Hey Joanne, I miss you!
To thine own self be true.
ditto...
Hey Joanne, I miss you!
Me too. I miss Joanne!
Yes, I follow Joanne on Twitter
but do not spend that much time there. Generally, I go there to check news links and I retweet Liepar Destin's BNR every day for him.
I really miss Joanne too. She is one of the smartest people I have met on line and I both love and respect her greatly. I wish she would come join us here.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I got into this group through Joanne Leon years ago on DK
she wrote a diary What's Happening
and Joe Shickpack in is Evening Blues would link to her final diary
What's Happenin'? On Hiatus
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/10/1261576/-What-s-Happenin-On-Hiatus
she had the usual trolls kick the crap our of her on the way out
she talked about starting another web site for the last 4 years and that effort she was part of in the beginning, along with Joe and others, morphed into this Caucus99% site
for a while I followed her on twiter but she posted too much for my taste so I stopped following her
i found her on twitter this morning and sure enough she continues at an incredible rate having posted 123K tweets
just going down a little bit I found that she posted an article on Kevin Gosztola's new web site, Shadowproof - hot off the press without one comment yet. You could go over there and say hello.
https://shadowproof.com/2015/12/28/forces-backed-by-america-and-russia-m...
with the title
Next Cold War Roundup 12/28/15
Kurds and New Syrian Democratic Forces Coalition Seize Tishrin Dam, Cross Erdogan’s Red Line (The Euphrates River), Poised to Cut ISIS Supply Lines
Does anyone here follow her on twitter?
So, she isn't participating here? Where is she then?
You said she participated in the beginning of building a new site and it resulted in this caucus99% site. What is the reason she is not participating here then? Or is she? I guess I will follow her on twitter for a while. I am always so sad that I didn't understand enough about all of this history.
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Mimi...
"So, she isn't participating here"?
No, although she has been invited.
"Where is she then"?
AFAIK, Twitter and Shadowproof.
"You said she participated in the beginning of building a new site and it resulted in this caucus99% site."
She was building her own site and later participated in a group of folks brought together in anticipation of her site coming to fruition, many of those folks are still here, including myself. c99p was built independently of Joanne's effort with the expectation of the two sites joining into one after her site was finished. For whatever reasons her site has yet to pan out and c99p kept on keeping on. Although technically this site was not a direct result of Joanne's efforts it was brought forth as a result of the same mutual group of folks looking for an alternative venue to you know where.
Aww, thanks, JtC, I hope that all the folks who belonged
to that mutual group, find each other and gather here. It would be nice. Thank you for explaining all of it, "comrade". (Heh, I always am afraid of calling someone "friend", because who knows, if they want to be friends with me, and I can't say "brother", because, I know I am never a "brother" or "sister" to all the tribes populating the United States. So, please bare with me, calling you "comrade".)
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Comrade...
friend, brother are all fine and appropriate. To me, calling someone a brother or sister is recognizing that we all belong to the human race, not as tribes, so calling me "brother" is certainly appropriate, at least I think I'm human (although my wife would sometimes disagree). Call me what you want, just don't call me late for supper!
ok, daddy, supper is ready ... :) /nt
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This is exactly how I remember it
At the time, Joanne was having some health issues and so I thought she would eventually join us here when she became well again.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
on 28 days and the lunar calendar
13 months of 28 days each gives us 364 days plus 1 day for a big celebration makes a year.
Religions come along every so often and supplant the old one. Greek mythology is full of that sort of thing, where Cronus "overthrows" Uranus, Zeus "overthrows" Cronus. It's typical that the sacred objects and beliefs of the old religion become "evil" or "bad" or "unlucky". Serpent cults were strong in the area before Judaism came along so the Serpent became a source of misery. I think the fear of the number 13 comes from changing from a lunar calendar (and a matriarchal society) to solar (patriarchal). oooh...13 bad, 12 good!
I thought 13 was bad because of the 13 at the Last Supper
so we are never supposed to have that number at a dinner. Is that just an Irish thing?
To thine own self be true.
that's my theory, anyway!
I think the Last Supper story comes after 13 was considered bad or unlucky. But don't take my word for it! How would I know?
There's also the thing that 12 is divisible by 1, 2, 3 and 4 (6 too). It's the first number that's divisible by all of those. So it's a really hot number. But 13 isn't at all. So maybe it's bad because it's not as perfect as 12. Except 11's as much of a prime as 13 and doesn't have bad connotations. In fact it's a good thing in dice throwing.
I hope everyone had some merry moments this Xmas
It annoys the "fight the war on Xmas" people so I like to use it.
We had a lovely and quiet Xmas on Billings Spit, Sooke, BC Canada. It was on the gently flowing Sooke Basin. A neighbour alerted
us to the King Tides that were prevalent during the winter and summer solstices and the fact that there can be as much as a 12' increase
in the tides. So high tide actually went under the deck of the cottage we had rented while low tide gave us an expanded beach but low tide came after dark so we took some walks under the light of the moon. Living there on the shores of the basin we were constantly aware
of the tides. The first morning, my city slicker dog, Max ran down the stairs from the deck, thinking of a walk on the beach and he was met with ice cold sea water on the steps instead. He got sulky after that and didn't want to go for walks. Xmas Day we had friends over for almond encrusted salmon and many veggie dishes. (My son is in culinary school so he decided the menu and cooked the meals.)
To thine own self be true.
Blackballing Wikileaks
interesting
Music for a rainy day...
Thanks for the good tunes today EL; need a good Barolo to go with days like today...
Update: making the arrangements; looks like proton therapy is the best option; month of Jan. includes Bone and CT scans with consultation for the therapy following the results; then if all goes as forecast by team should begin around two months treatment at end of March.
"Medicare-for-all!"
So fortunate to be old should not be part of an American's mantra.
so anti-american ...
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