People who voted for Donald are racists. All of them.

Just like anybody who voted for Hillary is fine with escalating tensions with Russia over Syria, which can't possibly go wrong or further destabilize the country and bring yet more misery to the brown and black people there.

Just like anybody who voted for Hillary is fine with destabilizing Libya and bringing countless deaths and untold misery to the brown and black people of that country, in the name of liberation.

Just like anybody who voted for Hillary is fine with the USAPATRIOT Act and who-knows-what secret surveillance programs, for use by the FBI, CIA and NSA against American citizens (including brown and black ones).

Just like anybody who voted for Hillary is fine with the Iraq War and its aftermath of misery and incalculable brown and black human suffering.

Just like anybody who voted for Hillary is fine with sending brown children, some who aren't even teenagers, on a dangerous journey back to Central and South America, rife with the potential for kidnapping, rape, and murder, just to "send a message" to those countries.

Just like anybody who voted for Hillary is fine with building a wall on our southern border to keep brown people out.

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Raggedy Ann's picture

everyone is a racist. You may not think you are, but you have biases - we all do - it is part of the human condition. We resist those biases, but they are there. Brown people have biases against white people just as white people have biases against brown people. If this is not true, show me where I am wrong. This is not 100%, as nothing is. However, we all have our biases, right or wrong.

Read the book "Homo Sapiens." It answers lots of questions about the human race.

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

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[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM]

Couldn't resist, sorry!

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

and whites all benefit from a racist society, but that doesn't make all whites (or all of any other group) racist.

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has alienated working class white people from the left.

the word "racism" means precisely what the speakers of American English choose it to mean when they use it. left-wing intellectuals and radical activists have neither the authority nor the right nor any good fucking reason to redefine racism in such an exclusionary fashion, yet they've been argumentatively persisting for at least 30 years. it's the worst sort of intellectual faddism, because it's:
A. Epistemologically groundless
B. Rhetorically pointless
C. Politically self-defeating

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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

national boundaries not arguing over quibbles of word usage.

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

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well, honestly, such a definition makes "racism" the sole domain of white males. because, you know, everyone else is a powerless minority, ground down by teh patriarchies. this is useful for several reasons depending on your ideology.

it's especially practical when you need to, say, chop up an electorate.

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against their own race?. I have to respectfully disagree with the author. I think many Trump voters voted strictly on economic issues. Their economic condition far outweighed their disgust of his racism. I'm sure, of all the votes he received, the number of minority, black, brown and others were in the 1000s. Are these people racist against their own race. Is that possible?

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stories abound of women protesting at abortion clinics, then one day they show up as clients, and the next week they're back out there shaming the women coming to obtain the same healthcare service of which they so recently availed themselves.

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AGCC is happening.
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Of the usual racisim in the rural west specifically the area that was Oregon territory. It opened for land claim about a year after the civil war ended.

By all accounts about 15% of those settlers were black newly freed from slaverly. On the Olympic Peninsula the earliest recorded inter racial marriage was in 1880. Many many who come from here have at least one if not several ancestors that are black or American Indian or both. Our schools were never not integrated. In fact my first grade teacher was black a refugee from the city who was married to the 6th grade teacher. That was 1967 and she was close to retirement. But I suspect Marcus their grandson said it best. Marcus traveles the country as a guest preacher raising money for a charity he founded. "There is home and there is the crazy world where people judge you by stupid stuff." We had a hard time understanding the hooded dudes that graced our television in 1968 unable to comprehend the mental deficency that would care what color a persons skin was nor why that mental issue that would cause people get so upset kids had to have police escourt them to school. My father watched the whole thing with raised eyebrows and said all those shouting whites must have nothing better to do than worry about nothing. That said we often note that we have problems with outside blacks because we don't know the race relations code we are supposed to follow.

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Coming from a mixed race family with numerous mixed race friends and a, in large part, mixed race country... I would say the Everyone a little bit racist hypothesis can be proven to be untrue.

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such as my nuclear family is of mixed race and sexual orientation - One Japanese American woman, two biracial kids and one white male bisexual barbarian (that's me, btw) - the more opportunities exist to see people as themselves, and to not reflexively generalize others with outdated stereotypes. Does it eliminate all bias or prejudice? No, but in makes you more aware of your own internalized stereotypical views, and I hope, in my case, provided me with experiences that helped to resist the imprinting of my childhood, which yes, did include prejudicial and racist and sexist and homophobic bigotry.

When I first discovered that, yes, I did have an attraction to both men and women, that there were aspects of my personality that others might label feminine and not "manly" enough, it terrified me. I repressed that reality about myself for several years, because to be a "faggot" was the worst thing imaginable. This is what the culture I grew up in did to me.

But over time, I am certain I have changed. One's environment, just as one's genetic make-up, is not destiny, and it does not encompass all that I am, or might become. I am not fated to be that person I was taught to be by church, family, media and society at large. Does that old mark of Cain still arise in me at times? Yes, but I now know it for what it is - merely the initial programming that I was given, and programming can be altered and changed.

That has been my experience in any event, and I believe it has been the experience for millions of others to a greater or lesser degree. And the many people who came of age in the decades after I was born, especially the newest generation, are far less biased and bigoted than my generation, and more open to accepting people for who they are, rather than simply placing a label on them. Not everyone, but a great number. I take some measure of hope in that.

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But my experience is different. I have in-laws that are outright racists, not biased or racist lite. Puerto Ricans can be very racist. And the way they treat and talk about immigrants from the Dominican Republic (mostly black)would make you cry. Yet they have no problem with Cubans, who they see as white.

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Now don't tease us with a book recommendation and not give us a link. Smile

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this book, then I can recommend it highly.

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

then racism is meaningless and unimportant.

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that comes between the "then" and the conclusion.

consider a binary population in which everyone is either purple or green. if 100% of the purple people despise the green people, and 100% of the green people despise the purple people, it is hardly meaningless or unimportant -- it is, to the contrary, one of the defining constructs of their society.

i do not see how adding degrees of gradation to both the definition of the races and and the intensity of the prejudices changes that reality.

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AGCC is happening.
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it would be hard to find any population other than "racists" that is 100% racists.. even if we're talking about binary populations.

i get the "bias" argument, because that's most likely an evolutionary thing, but it doesn't make sense to have an entirely racist population, because that's antithetical to the evolution thing.

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Because then racism becomes like breathing - an essential part of life - and not something controversial at all.
No one would or should consider curtailing it...if everyone is racist.

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into "nuance" territory.

clearly, you're a racimisogynist.

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i think a whole lot of them discovered that normalized tribal hatred is kind of bad for children and other living things.

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AGCC is happening.
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1) you are saying that all racism is the same, thus we are undergoing racial genocide right now, and have always

2) almost half of those killed in the Rwandan genocide were moderate Hutus, who didn't want to kill

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far from it.

the only thing i'm saying is that racism is approximately ubiquitous. it's just a particular flavor of tribalism, and tribalism is a deep, deep instinct in ourselves.

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AGCC is happening.
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I had a class in college where one of the assignments was centered around a biography of a middle class white woman who wrote about her experience of moving her family to the inner city of Philadelphia in the 1970's (I'm sorry I can't remember the name of the book; it was a long time ago). The predominate message I got out of the book was the deterioration of our public school system and the impact that had on minorities as seen from a woman who became the "good hearted mom that all the kids in a predominately black neighborhood liked to visit". But when it was time to critique the book (this class was part of a degree program in Elementary Ecucation) the class split down color lines. From the white POV, it was how poverty and a broken public school system created a cycle of more poverty and more broken public schools. From the black POV there was an additional layer to the authors perception of black people in general. They commented how the author only saw her neighbors helplessness, not their strength; How the author seemed "surprised" at how clean their houses were and how resourceful they were. How the author came off as playing the role of the "white savior" and could not see her poverty stricken neighbors helping themselves.

I remember being stunned at the time because I never saw that. Not that it wasn't there. But that I never saw it. So, the takeaway I got from this was that even though you are a well meaning white person, you still have the ability to undermine POC with your ignorance. For some, that is considered being a "racist". And by that measure, it would include me for not seeing what every black student in that class saw. While I thought the author was a wonderfully perceptive woman, I suspect that sentiment was not shared by many of my fellow class mates. Including my Professor who assigned the book.

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latent racism in your black classmates' own perceptions: it doesn't occur to them that her preconceptions are based on class, rather than race. they are preconditioned to perceive a racially-based condescension from the white author, and so that is precisely what they perceive.

any white person who has spent much time in certain white socioeconomic circles has heard plenty of dismissive references to white trash and their inadequate observance of middle-class standards of cleanliness, industriousness, and so on.

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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho

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again. Loved that show. Where's this generation's Norman Lear and Bud Yorkin. That show blew everyone away back when. And it taught us all a lesson we all needed learn.

Back then television was a wonderful thing. Laugh-In, Smothers Brothers, That Was the Week That Was. Now it's all a wasteland. And cable? Well there's a waste of good, hard earned money. (Except I miss the sports channels.)

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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          That's not quite true, one-on-one it still works for the most part. I have been doing standup (I am a university professor, ret.) for a long time, but as of late I have had to be much more restrained. There seems to be no tone of voice or visual cuing that penetrates the pathological literalism that seems to be so prevalent. University administrators are particularly lacking in their understanding of the ironic, sigh.

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Satire, sarcasm, irony, hyperbole, all seem to be above the ken of today's America.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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Racism--and sexism too--aren't all or nothing propositions. It could be best to think about them on a Kinsey scale. Most people are at least a 1 or a 2, even if they believe in 0 as an ideal goal. No one is totally color blind or gender blind.

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with the other folks that have argued a certain degree of bias intrinsic to our species, and i believe it's an evolutionary construct. the 1-3% (maybe even 5%) can perhaps be explained by such an evolutionary bias.

i feel like racism begins when it starts to spread, eg. when one starts talking about it. say, when a mother gently suggests that her black daughter shouldn't be hanging out with hispanic men. that's zero-grade racism, pre-debate. demanding that your white son shouldn't be dating a black daughter is probably grade 5 or 6 racism.

this is kind of funny in a sick way, because you could probably sit around and classify all kinds of racist constructs. what is a -power movement? well, you're seeking to elevate -race instead of others, so it's got to be a 2 or 3 on it's face, and most likely broad-spectrum up to 10. is sitting with a certain race in a bar a bias? sitting with a certain race in a prison certainly is.

i'll come up with the tourniquet scale of racismisms at some point and post an essay. that should be entertaining.

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You captured my intent correctly. Sometimes I'm not the best at expressing my thoughts.

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

Anyone (cough Hillary supporters cough) smearing Trump, Stein or Johnson voters as racist because they supposedly helped elect racist Trump, is using the same logic Hillary people just spent the last 4 months arguing against.... that a Hillary voter would likewise be responsible for drone strikes, continued military excursions around the world, corporate excess, fracking, etc. etc.

No, team Hillary wanted Bernie supporters to believe, a vote for her was fine, you could work with her, she could evolve. She would listen. A vote for Hillary is not an absolute vote for all the things she says or does.

And now, I guess that absolutist logic is back en vogue. it's sad.

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Love ya, mean it

I voted in support of your essay because I understand it to be ironic. I hope everyone who reads it does too.

But I thank you especially for writing it because the backlash against people who voted for Trump is so shocking, even more shocking than the election result for me. My Bay Area family is struggling with this difficulty in perception, and I may ask close friends and family to read your essay to help calm the waters. Thanks for writing this.

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They are all true.

There has been a massive failure in the Moral Compass of Americans.

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But at the very least those things sure as hell didn't bother them.

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snippets of a convo over in Thumb's reddit

(Person A) "Denying climate change should have the same stigma as racism. What does social justice matter in a world destabilized by natural disasters, war and famine? These culture wars are misdirection."

(me, in agreement) "not to mention that hello? climate chaos will impact people of color and most certainly women w young children - globally - first and it will be fast and furious and devastating, not only for them but for all the people who live wherever these climate refugees must run to. (see Syria exhibit A)

So anyone who argues to deny or DELAY sufficient action - radical action - on CC is a racist misogynist (too).
... Im not one to run around calling people racist or sexist (I self identify as a humanist) but rather, Im pointing out the hypocrisy of *some* people.

We need a moonshot approach wrt Climate and anything less than that is Denial/Delay."

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          The moonshot analogy is perfect as in sometimes technology is the solution. The technological advances of the past coupled with bad socioeconomic thinking has created global havoc. The various components of the solution are relatively easy to identify and not very difficult to implement. What is lacking, is the political will to do what is needed.

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I voted for the black guy for president twice. I voted for the Jewish guy in 2016's primary. But I refused to vote for Hillary. Obviously, I'm racist, antisemitic and misogynistic. I blame my Polish/Finnish/Irish/Seminole mixed heritage.

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Well, that explains it ...

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On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
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i'm irish, and i voted for bernie and stein, so i'm not antisemitic.

i'm french, too, though, so i guess half of me thinks i'm better than everybody.

my GOD i'm a drunk reprehensible piece of shit. Biggrin

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Will be of small comfort to communities of color with no potable water. Social justice will also be of small comfort when epidemics of food related diseases ravage the country because the U.S. Government is using "treated" fraking waste water to water California crops.

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is an excellent ideal that we can't possibly legislate while keeping our laws constitutional.

it's an unfortunate effect of absolute freedoms, and it's also a good argument that identarianism is a ludicrous position, at least under our constitution.

it is also a pathetically weak argument against things like pollution, climate change, the US election economy, any sort of scholarship, etc. any sort of actual policy positions.

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nothing might be more dangerous (and fucking heroically stupid) than talking about war with another nuclear power for political gain. i'm not going to blame clinton personally because i wasn't a fly on the wall, but the clinton campaign crushed it's own balls with a rock when it comes to "being democrats" when they started that fucking idiotic anti-russian saber rattling.

if anything solidified my vote for a third party it was the democrats' fucking idiotic red-scare break in those hysterical final weeks of the general. protip for future campaigns of any stripe: do not invoke world war 3 as a selling point. if you do, you're fucking morons.

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The "red scare" sent me to vote for Trump over 3rd party at the last minute, to prevent Hillary having any access to power.

PS I am curious how the "red scare" meme got started? If was by Hillary's people, I think it backfired against her!!

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i heard of it was vis a vis wikileaks... wikileaks was fed the podesta emails not because podesta left his fucking cell phone in a cab but because putin hates teh clintons. of course wikileaks, who have since had a number of the most contentious emails verified by google, and who have never been shown to have fabricated anything, denies that the podesta emails are russian in origin, and also denied that the dnc leaks were russian in origin.

but no, are these emails now or have these emails ever been a member of the communist party or... any party?

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