OT 11-12-15: On Minimum Wage

The first real job I had was in 1976. I had been looking for work that summer for a couple of months with no luck. Then, finally, I was hired as a short order cook in an Orange Julius kiosk on Los Feliz Blvd., near Hollywood. It happened to be 106 degrees that day and I spent it over the grill. I was pretty excited after work because I'd made money! But as the night progressed I just couldn't face doing that ever again.

So I took a walk down Hollywood Boulevard, noting that the movie theaters had signs that said "Air Conditioned". I went to the door of one of them and, being a weisenheimer, said "What does a guy have to do to get a job around here?" I got shown in to see the manager and was hired right away. Two months of looking and nothing. Then one day of heat, heat, heat and necessity had made me find a job that worked for me. This was at the Egyptian Theater. I stayed there for quite awhile, rising from the lowly position of Candy/Popcorn/Food seller to the much respected rank of Usher Who Closes the Place Down at Night. This worked well for me since I was definitely keeping "musician's hours". I could sleep until noon, roll into work at 6 pm, close up at 2 am.

But let me get to my point. I still have a pay stub from those days. Employee Number 67200. Total hours, 71.5, Gross pay (including some unspecified "other earnings") $158.40. The mimimum wage then was $2.10 an hour so I was getting a full 6 or 7 cents an hour above that. Nice, eh?

That was equivalent to about $9 in today's money which, I believe, is more than $7.25. Since 1950, when the minimum wage went up to 75 cts an hour, the purchasing power for the lowest wage earners has fluctuated from a high of $10.34 in 1968 (in terms of what it would buy today) to a low of $5.91 in 2006. So yeah, people making the minimum in 1968 could buy almost twice as much as those in 2006. With no change since 2009 we're going backwards again. Interestingly, the longest stretch of time with an unchanged minimum was pretty recently, 1997-2006. Here's a link to a chart that goes through 2012.

https://www.dol.gov/minwage/chart1.htm

In the course of preparing this little essay I came across an article in Forbes that's mind-blowing. It says minimum wage is a bad idea that keeps people unemployed. Dig this weirdness!

The minimum wage violates the principle of freedom by limiting the range of choices open to workers, preventing them from accepting jobs at less than the legal minimum. It also prohibits employers from hiring those workers, even if both parties would be better off. Thus, contrary to the claims of minimum-wage proponents, the government does not increase opportunities for low-skilled workers by increasing the minimum wage.

Here's a link

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesdorn/2013/05/07/the-minimum-wage-delusi...

The Republicans don't want to increase the minimum and the Democrats will talk about it but then express regret that they're powerless. Eventually it will get done, at least on a state level, but we know it's not a living wage. Hillary Clinton, a former Spaghetti Secretary of State, who's a candidate for President on the Democratic side, has proposed raising it to $12 an hour. That's a little shy of $25,000 a year. Those who advise on financial matters suggest 1/3 of one's income should go to housing. That's a little less than $700 a month. Checking the Portland Craigslist I see that would get you a room. There is nothing if you want an actual apartment. But let's say you get a room with some compatible housemates. Never mind that you're in your 60s and everyone else is 23 years old. Then you've got to spend money on transportation to your minimum wage job, on clothes to wear at work, on your share of the bills and food. It's not a good life.

I found an interesting Jonathan Swift quote:

In all well-instituted commonwealths, care has been taken to limit men's possessions; which is done for many reasons, and, among the rest, for one which, perhaps, is not considered: that when bounds are set to men's desires, after they have acquired as much as the laws will permit them, their private interest is at an end, and they have nothing to do but to take care of the public.

That seems to me to be as important as a minimum wage. Create a maximum wage as well as a minimum. Let the difference be obvious but still something we can understand. Right now most of us can't take in the difference between $18,000 a year and $156 million a year. That high figure is what some guy named David Zaslav, who's the CEO of Discovery Communications, received last year. His salary was "only" $3 million but he got some perks (!). The average worker in the United States will earn the same amount if he or she works, at current salary, until the year 6445. If, on the other hand, the maximum wage were $5 million a year then Zaslav's extra $151 million could have been distributed among the employees. And he still would have had plenty!

there's a thin line between being in prison and working for a dollar a day

Sometimes you feel there's a better life for you and me

it's got to get better

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he has a new book out
Rewriting the Rules of the American Economy: An Agenda for Growth and Shared Prosperity

A huge issue is income inequality. The first country that is going to trash the middle class.

This could be a road map for the Bernie movement and Stiglitz could find his way into Bernie's cabinet

Expect in the next few weeks there will be a lot of reviews of the books and he will be on other media shows.

Last night Thom Hartmann spent the entire hour of his evening show with the economist Richard Wolf. It is available on this link on top this morning. Sometime it will no longer be on top and not sure how to find it then. Wolf has a lot to say about minimum wage and his prescriptions are to raise the tax rate and have worker co ops - capitalism has failed.

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBigPictureRT

Full Show 11/11/15: How Reaganomics Killed America’s Middle Class
1,096 views 10 hours ago
Thom discusses what Ronald Reagan’s economic policies have done to America’s middle class with economist Richard Wolff, author of the book “Democracy at Work: A Cure for Capitalism.”

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reading the transcript.

Thanks for the links.

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This commnter who rarely watches
videos because they eat up bandwidth
and who prefers transcripts because I
learn better through reading than
watching really appreciates links to
transcripts.

Thanks!

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to slap you in the face, knock you out, burn your skin and freeze your mind, in other words indoctrinate you. I like slow moving, low voiced, close-up, fact based and vox populi sound bite-based pieces. But then often I don't get the meaning of some words, when I just listen. I like transcripts and lyric texts to read while watching and listening. Call me a spoiled girl. I want it all.

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The minimum wage is not a living wage as a recent study has shown.

In 35 states and in Washington, D.C., the living wage for a single adult is greater than $15 per hour. No state has a living wage for a single adult that is less than $14 an hour. Nationally, the living wage for a single adult is closer to $16.87 an hour. For working families with children, though, the cost to make ends meet is even higher.

I find it rather laughable that many people think we cannot afford a living wage. Well, in effect, we are paying a living wage by having to supplement the incomes of minimum wage workers. Or perhaps a better way to state it is that we the taxpayers are supplementing the profits of many low wage corporations who refuse to pay a living wage and refuse to provide full time hours and benefits to their employees. With many middle income jobs having been shipped overseas due to our disastrous trade policies, people are increasingly being forced into low wage jobs with no career ladders available for them to rise.

What has happened here in the United States is criminal and our government policies encourage the impoverishment of the people.

Great diary. Thank you for raising this issue.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Minimum wage of $15 should be the bottom. All jobs that pay a lower wage because tips should be illegal. You get a guaranteed $15.00. If somebody wants to tip, great. Tips should never be compensation for doing the job.

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I left ~$20 tip, for the waitress, and left to walk back to the hotel. I was about two blocks from the restaurant when she caught up to me and tried to give the money back. I tried to explain it was for her, I don't know if she understood, but a managed to get her to keep the money.

Did you ever notice that the people who have the most are the stingiest. Waitresses can tell you whether someone tips by the kind of car they drive. I drive a Ford Focus and was had lunch about once a week at a tavern. I would sit at the bar a talk with whomever was there. One day, a good old boy type with one of those tricked out trucks was sitting there and tried to talk to me about Hannity.

After he left, the bar tender came over to complain. BTW, the bar tender was a lovely young lady. Anyway, she says, "That prick left a $0.45 tip on a $25 tab". At least he had a phallus substitute.

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can it get any higher? Then they drive down our street blaring the worst music, going too fast. One more symbol of our wrong direction.

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thanks for the great OT, shah.

Are there any members here that belong to the DailyKos facebook group? I don't do facebook. Now would be an excellent time to post a comment advertising caucus99percent there, with the intent of possibly pulling in some disgruntled DK users. Advertise c99p as an "easy to use blogging platform".

Now would be a great time to copy/paste a link to c99p at the bottom of the comments at DK also. Something like "Visit us at caucus99percent.com--An easy to use traditional blogging platform". Blitz the place with comments and I'll bet we will get lots of new members.

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It is a public site, so anyone can go look at and read it.

https://www.facebook.com/dailykos/?fref=ts&rf=108140145887006

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

I've never seen that before, once is enough though.

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it contains graphic photos and bland content.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

and there's not enough white and the font is too dark.

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won't happen again. Not my kind of way to read stuff.

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like to trade playing cards to be "liked"
or *very briefly* commented upon. I
followed FDL's LN crowd there for a
couple of weeks. No one posts original
content or comments of more than a
line or two, because the format isn't
simply isn't designed for it.

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the low number of comments there, they are way down, Kos may have hurt his branding, badly.

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i don't do facebook except in a few cases that they force me to use it

have never been to DK facebook page

but occasionally look at twitter numbers

well remember when Glenn Greenwald was just starting and I used to announce each change in 10K followers. Don't know when I started but do recall a 60K number for Glenn. DK started much earlier and in my foggy memory it was at something like 120K

today DK is at 196K. It was static for some time and my sense of 120K is a couple of years old. it may have been more 2 years ago ..

but Glenn is up to 592K today and really important people are following him

I follow Jesselyn Radack and Thomas Drake on twitter and they are fairly active in their postings. Jesselyn has only 25K followers, but expect they are important people.

And Edward Snowden has 1.6M followers

We well recall that Markos didn't give a shit about Snowden. And many comments on Greenwald that he was all ego.

As long as personality politics and the democratic party were enough, DK could lurch along

But now, it has been taken over by the Bernie movement

people like me have stayed around because of our commitment to education of citizens

and BNR has been a godsend. I put most of my comments there to keep the debate focused on issues

and the HUGE shift to smart phones and tablets - which I am not doing at all, makes me unaware of what is going on in that domain

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I find the place totally less interesting. It may have always been that way, but is was very interactive. Now, it's just a lot of space and scrolling. Because everything is opened up, it is also more apparent how boring most of the information really is. I almost never read the front page. That is a sad, sad commentary.

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in my sig line over at the main site, but they did away with sig lines.

I do Facebook for friends and family, but I will not join that group.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

anyone here would be a member of the facebook group, but thought I'd ask anyway.

The siglines are still there but you have to hover over the username, making them pretty obscure.

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has become so frustrating over there, I do not comment much, but I can try to put a link at the end of every comment. I am now suggesting that we say Join Us @http://www.caucus99percent.com.

We have a number of members here who have not participated. Perhaps a reminder via the link may bring them here to actually participate.

Again, I believe that what Markos has done over there is on purpose. I think he is trying to steer the site away of community and commentary and toward being a news source. I am beginning to wonder if he is planning on spinning it off (selling it) like HuffPost. It would not surprise me in the least.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

The Evening Blues closed up shop I hardly go there and now even less. The reason I recommended to put a link on the bottom of comments is to make them noticeable since the rollover profiles are so obscure.

I think there are several reasons that some new folks aren't participating here, although i think that is normal for most websites. We'll try to address those reasons in the near future.

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you see for people from over there not participating here...

I have my thoughts, but "as thoughts are free" and I am more and more greedy due to living on less than minimum wage income, you would to have to pay me to post them... Smile

(that's supposed to be a joke).

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is intentional and driven by TPTB, in
particular the biggest Tech Dawg in the
pack - Google, which now ranks sites
that are "mobile friendly" higher in its
search results than those that aren't.

Need I say that Google with its spy-in-
your-pocket Android system (now the
number 1 mobile OS) has a pecuniary
interest in promoting this? And, yes, of
course, selling Android phones makes
Google a lot of money, but their real
cash cow is in collecting and selling
data - lots and lots of it stuff people
never even think about, like location
data and whatever "OK, Google" collects
and stores in perpetuity via its always
on, by default, microphone. (Try to
figure out how to turn off that default
setting, and, if you succeed, "trust"
Google to have really turned off such
a lucrative function - for them.)

Something more diabolical is a-foot,
though, IMHO. I've watched Guardian
revamp its site, ostensibly for mobile
users, and completely blow up its
commenting community in the process.
Then FDL did the same thing. Now it's
apparently DKos' turn. A very odd turn
of events for sites that were not so
long ago touting their vibrant BTL
commenting communities as one of
their most valuable assets.

I'm now seeing former Guardian, FDL,
and now DKos commenters across the
web, looking for new homes.

Which brings up the $64 million
question: Who would want to destroy
long-established online communities
and why? Think about that.

(BTW, each of these sites have made
themselves far less usuable for this
Android user. They were way more
easy to navigate for mobile users
before they made themselves "mobile
friendly" - and the site owners, PTB
paid not one whit of attention to all
the mobile users complaining they
had made their sites *less* mobile
friendly as well as loads of often very
geeky suggestions for improving
mobile functionality, which were
ignored. So, so much for the "official"
reason for the changes....)

dr

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

What I usually think whenever I go to
the Intercept - What in Hell is
this white screen that looks like a
menu over-writing a copyright notice
that I can't close or get around? Until,
that is, I remember to turn off JavaScript
at which point I can see the article,
but lose all click-able functionality, like
Read more until I turn JavaScript back
on.

Moble ease-of-use FAIL, the number 1
reason I never go to the site and rarely
follow links to it. Just too big a hassle
for this mobile user. I figure I'll hear
about it elsewhere on the web on the
rare occasions they publish something
newsworthy, and, even then, the articles
are rarely worth the hassle of getting
to them.

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dkos5 design wise. Found the comment section and it seemed easy to follow the thread. The design is better then dkos 5 even though it's not a style I like. At least it holds together and doesn't float off the page. I also like it better then Vox which sucks too. The Intercept has never seemed to be to be a online community with chat. It's more like a news aggregator and opinion site. It has actual content and is edgy so the form at least follows it's function. . The thing about dkos is it's not a news site it really has no hard news on the FP other then look at this ugly Republican or Obamacare is teh best and wallowing around in white privilege trumps all issues. It's like Red State for hard core Democratic partisans. The world could be in flames and the front page would be carrying on about Ben Carson's idiocy and the culture war.

They can deck it out anyway they think is modern and will get them the desirable youthful? demographics they want but it's putting inappropriate lipstick on a pig. Good luck with that. Killing off the right dairy side which is where the actual action is not going to draw young hipsters to this machine Democratic propaganda site. Of course what do I know I don't use mobile devises and am an old coot. I just think that the demographic he's going for won't be interested in the content regardless of the design. He better hire some decent writers and get some content that isn't propaganda for the establishment Democratic machine. Most young'uns are not conservative and if they are they sure aren't interested in supporting the staus quo corrupt Dems. Bernie would be a draw but fat chance they will feature his candidacy on the FP. Kos may think 'issues' don't matter but they do.

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There is a huge difference between The Intercept and dkos content wise. To me, The Intercept is about hard news and opinion. The writers and their writing carry the site. Not so at dkos. User generated content is usually far superior to that of the front page and the commentary in the user generated content can often be some of the best found anywhere.

For Markos, this is a business and his model is not quality but quantity of clicks, links, etc. But IMO, he is killing the goose that laid the golden egg if he is going to continue to own the site. That is why I really think he is preparing to spin it off by using those numbers as a way to make the site more marketable.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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the intercept has original reporting. they have reporters who gather facts, sometimes doing deep dives into sometimes opaque documentation and distilling meaning from it in a form that makes the information accessible to regular folks.

while daily kos has a team of liveried writers, their reporting is in a different league.

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that the huge photo images punch you in the face and make the text content of the actual piece less important. And I don't like the white space to the left and right, but I guess that's for the mobile phone users, right? As I have no mobile phone with which I would read online websites, I have no idea what people are talking about, when they say to make a site mobile phone user friendly.

I am an a crusade against mobile phone internet usage. ... in my dreams ... I want to die without a phone in my hands, please and don't want to have it put in my coffin. /s

The VICE site has also this overwhelming top image all the time. I don't like it much.

I like the truthdig site's design. I find everything easily and nothing distracts from the stories. I have never commented there at all, but the comment threads look easy to follow.

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this is the type of design dkos is copying.... huge pictures, huge font - why? Who needs font that big?

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or HuffPo, some outlet for advertising.

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HuffPo, there you go.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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as a graphic designer and a lover of typography. There is no harmony between the elements. The body type, where the content is diminished when you put it next to the oversized headline type and the giant overwhelming photos. The logo on dkos is a really cheesy type face and too small to carry the big airy subheads, photos and tiny text and bizarre spacing and line length. Proportion counts big in good graphic design. So does continuity of style, and leading the eye into the content and then making it flow so you do not lose the reader. Anyway I'm learning a lot as I'm doing online graphics and research and besides being a avid reader of news and politics, I'm checking out websites daily.

The flash ones not only bombard your eyes but they do not work very well, load slowly and aren't even very functional, too tricky and comples by half . They used to say in my advertising design classes you have about 15 seconds to suck the viewer in and regardless of your style you need to keep them interested visually. The thing is geek programmers are really not into aesthetics or design. I hate Adobe as it was not designed by graphic artist's or illustrators and it's like your fighting the programmers of your expensive tool to get results that while technical are intuitive and creative. They don't call it an art for nothing.

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for an excellent explanation of the basics
of graphic design and what so many
sites have begun doing wrong and why.
I couldn't agree more.

I was a beta-tester for both Aldus (later
Adobe) Pagemaker and Microsoft
Word when I worked for a very large
financial corp (~125,000 employees)
back in the mid-'80s. While at first,
everything seemed so cool and
promising, by the late '80s, I was
thoroughly fed up with having to learn
"new, improved" versions of these
products, which often changed much of
how they worked just to add silly "bells
and whistles" that no one was.ever likely
to use, put there, apparently, just because
the software developers could.

I have found a new site, however -
off-guardian.org - that actually seems to
have not only consulted but listened to
a good graphic designer in setting up
their site. It's not only intuitively easy
for me to use on my cell, it also looks
damn good to me - in almost countless
ways.

I would love to hear your thoughts about
the design of the OffGuardian site if you
have the time and inclination to check it
out.

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at DK the other day in a dairy that was one of the many about what a hot mess the comment section at dkos5 has become. You can't have a sig line anymore cause kos doesn't think they look good. They would ruin the 'aesthetic's' of the new design. It could some ruination that humanized it a little. Very sterile looks like the gentrification plans for Portland. What's with the silicon valley type techies wanting everything dehumanized? If they want to sterilize the cities why flock to the places that were funky, livable, and had character. Same with online communities why make them all look like Forbes?

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I worked for a roofing company. We had a job to put a roof on a cinder block plant. The existing roof was concrete and the company did not want us to take off the old roof while workers were inside or machinery was running. Cinder block is cured using steam and it was a particularly hot stretch of summer. We arrived before sunrise Saturday, put scaffolding and plywood over the machinery, sledge hammered the old roof away, put down corrugated decking, laid insulation board and laid the first layer of hot roof finishing as the sun set. We were back for Sunday sunrise, laid two more layers of hot roof, took down the scaffolding and plywood and were in the process of sweeping and shoveling up the demolition from Saturday. The owner had spent the weekend at his lake house, but swung by Sunday evening to see how things went. When he arrived, I was leaning on a shovel drinking iced tea from my thermos. He came over and yelled at me. I said, "Fuck you, I quit". The other workers just laughed. I went and sat in one of the trucks and about fifteen minutes later, asshole owner came over and apologized. I should have stayed quit. Roofing for minimum wage is unjust.

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I was a controls engineer for a startup that did closed loop motion control. I was working on a project for a machine tool that produced the exhaust nozzles for the space shuttle booster rockets. We had a controller that used Intel's 486 processor. At the time, the 486 was several thousand dollars. I was commissioning one of the systems and the motion control module was the last item ready for the control system. When it arrived, I plugged in the power supply and turned it on. The technical term for what happened is I let the smoke out. During assembly, the electronics tech had flipped the connector for the computer bus, so chips received the wrong voltages and the 486 was fried. One of the "entrepreneurs" came over and yelled at me, " Do you know what that processor is worth?". " Why didn't you put in a bus extender card and check the bus voltages!".

The entrepreneur's son-in-law was the QC manager and an asshole. So I said, "You should talk to the QC manager, the sticker isn't even dry yet". "Would you expect a customer to check the bus voltages before turning on a controller?". The entrepreneur stormed off and the guys had a good laugh.

BTW, the entrepreneur received $33M and a Mercedes when the company was bought out. I was making $24K per year and worked on the road, some factory or manufacturing facility, 280 days one year. Working hard at entry level wages while an "entrepreneur" bullies people and gets rich is unjust.

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in their own companies' field as an entry level wage earner themselves, especially "young entrepreneurs" are the biggest bullies and the least socially inclined people. I have never experienced it myself, but learned through the jobs my son had. It sometimes blows my mind away what is allowed here.

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some of the hardest and most dangerous work around, especially hot roofing. An old co-worker from many years ago was carrying two buckets of tar and was walking a little too fast (almost running) and he tripped, one hand went into one of the buckets of hot tar, his last three fingers were burned so badly they had to be amputated.

Fortunately hot roofing is becoming a thing of the past with the advent of rubber roofing for flat applications.

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I was working kettle and we raised tar, in buckets, with a rope and pulley. Owner's nephew dropped a bucket. I saw it coming and turned. It got my shoulder and one arm. Luckily, I had long hair which saved my ear and the side of my face. Remember not to drink beer and take codeine.

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work the kettle too, funky ass job. Caught the kettle on fire a couple of times, hah! I used to think the guys swinging the mop were slackers until I had to do it, holy shit, talk about exhausting!

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But when they did the roof on our house, there was no tar involved. The shingles are coated with an adhesive that melts in the sun. The guys worked hard early in the day and usually left between one and two. They did not take breaks and one guy told my husband that they avoid anything with sugar in it while on the roof because it makes them nauseated.

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is for flat roofs, where shingles wont work because the water will back up under the joints and leak. Anything under about a 3/12 pitch should have roll, rubber or hot roofing.

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reputation is dependent on doing a quality job (ie no leakage through the roof after the panels are installed) and the workers go through "work safety training".

Then, when they take safety measures serious and work a little slower than the sloppy guys, because they follow the companies' rules, you get in trouble because you work too slow.

Jerks come a dime a dozen.

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1979--I worked in a shoe factory, minimum wage was 3.10, but we made piece rate, I averaged between 5-7 dollars an hour depending on what job I was doing, because on second shift I got bounced around, and soon learned how to make rate on half a dozen different machines. We also got a 7% bonus for clocking in and out on time all week. Can you imagine that kind of folding money in the hands of a 17 year old? It didn't last. Thanks President Reagan, you dick.

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Jimmy was still President in 1979. But F' zombie Reagan anyway.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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Historic collapse

If you imagine the commodity markets as a giant control panel, all the big dials would be pointing down right now. That is unusual -- so unusual, investors of all stripes should be paying attention....
The second reading is more troublesome for everyone, though. Maybe commodity prices are telling us something that official numbers and stock-market valuations aren’t.

For example, two weeks ago, Bloomberg Intelligence economists Tom Orlik and Fielding Chen published an article examining different estimates of China’s GDP growth, where official numbers are treated with a healthy degree of skepticism by many. They surveyed six proxies calculated by analysts -- including Bloomberg’s own -- and found that all suggest growth is running lower this year than Beijing’s own numbers say. The range, from 2.8 percent to 6.4 percent, is very wide.

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The debt market is sending a signal last seen in 2009, and it’s one that shouldn’t be ignored.

Investors are largely shunning the riskiest U.S. corporate bonds, and those brave enough to tiptoe into the stuff are demanding the biggest premium relative to safer notes since the last financial crisis. The lowest-rated junk bonds are now yielding 14.7 percent on average, 8.9 percentage points more than the highest-rated speculative-grade debt.

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A traffic jam of oil tankers, with more than 20 million barrels of crude, has emerged along the Texas coast this month, a snarl that some traders see as the latest sign of an unyielding global supply glut.

More than 50 commercial vessels were anchored outside ports in the Houston area at the end of last week, of which 41 were tankers, according to Houston Pilots, an organization that assists in navigation of larger vessels. Normally, there are 30 to 40 vessels, of which two-thirds are tankers, according to the group.
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“It appears that the glut of supply in the global market is only getting worse,” said Matt Smith, director of commodity research at ClipperData. Several traders said some ships might have arrived without a buyer, which can be hard to find as ample supply and end-of-year taxes push refiners to draw down inventories.

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Oil stockpiles have swollen to a record of almost 3 billion barrels because of strong production in OPEC and elsewhere, potentially deepening the rout in prices, according to the International Energy Agency.

This “massive cushion has inflated” on record supplies from Iraq, Russia and Saudi Arabia, even as world fuel demand grows at the fastest pace in five years, the agency said. Still, the IEA predicts that supplies outside the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries will decline next year by the most since 1992 as low crude prices take their toll on the U.S. shale oil industry.
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Total oil inventories in developed nations increased by 13.8 million barrels to about 3 billion in September, a month when they typically decline, according to the agency. The pace of gains slowed to 1.6 million barrels a day in the third quarter, from 2.3 million a day in the second, although growth remained “significantly above the historical average.” There are signs the some fuel-storage depots in the eastern hemisphere have been filled to capacity, it said.

“The stock buffer is bearish and will probably set a lid on how much higher prices can go in 2016,” Torbjoern Kjus, an analyst at DNB ASA in Oslo, said by phone. “There’s a sizeable risk that we could run totally full,” in terms of storage capacity, he said.

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the greatly diminished 'buying power' of today's minimum wage, compared to the late 1960's.

I'm going to attempt to address Reid's and Pelosi's attempt to end the "Cadillac Tax." It's a bit late, since almost six years from its enactment, it has already served the purpose of slashing group health plan benefits.

Guess what? That will not be undone.

Bad

This is simply another example of doing the bidding of 'big business.'

More on this later.

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"The standard of living of the average American has to decline. I don't think you can escape that."--Paul Volcker, The New York Times, October 18, 1979, Page 1.

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Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.

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With the Iowa caucuses less than three months away, the Republican presidential candidates have suddenly begun discussing income inequality a whole lot more.

During the first two debates, GOP candidates used words like “inequality,” “disparity,” “rich,” “poor,” and “middle class” just 0.06 percent of the time, according to an analysis by the communications and consulting firm Logos Consulting Group. That rate tripled in the Oct. 28 debate, the first one after the Democratic debate that featured more discussion of inequality. It rose again to 0.20 percent in Tuesday night's GOP debate.
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The tax plans of major Republicans feature large tax breaks that would provide disproportionate gains to the affluent, according to the conservative-leaning Tax Foundation. Bush’s proposal would raise after-tax incomes for the highest earners by 16.4 percent; more than any other group. Senator Marco Rubio’s plan would give the top 1 percent a 27.9 percent break, higher than an average 17.8 percent cut for all taxpayers. Senator Ted Cruz’s 10 percent individual flat tax would give the top 1 percent a 34.2 percent tax cut, compared to an average 21.3 percent across all groups.

Although Republican front-runner Donald Trump has raised hackles in calling for closing the “carried interest” tax loophole that benefits private equity and hedge fund managers, the billionaire's overall tax plan also disproportionately benefits the top 1 percent.

“I think it’s a real advance that they’re talking about our historically high levels of economic inequality,” said former Obama White House economist Jared Bernstein. “But when you look at the astounding regressivity of their tax plans, which would further drive up after-tax inequality, it’s clear that they’re lip syncing, not singing.”

Along with Trump and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, Bush, Rubio, and Cruz also oppose Democratic-backed proposals to combat inequality such as lifting the federal minimum wage. Republicans unanimously want to repeal Obamacare, the 2010 law that has slowed the rise of inequality by extending health-care coverage to nearly 17 million middle- and low-income Americans, funded in large part by taxes on the affluent. Many Republican candidates are also campaigning on cutting Social Security, which has dramatically reduced poverty among seniors.

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Total shareholder payouts in 2014 were more than $1.2 trillion, but money moving from investors to businesses in the form of IPOs and venture capital is less than $200 billion.

That's J.W. Mason, an economics professor at City University of New York's John Jay College, writing in a recent report from the Roosevelt Institute titled "Understanding Short-Termism." Mason also shows that overall capital investment has been growing more slowly than in any other post-World War II recovery :

Instead of being invested, Mason figures, much of the cash being handed to investors is going into increased consumption by the wealthy. "Stock ownership is significantly concentrated," he reports, "with just 4 percent of households owning a majority of all shares." Meanwhile, recent research from Barry Z. Cynamon of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis and Steven M. Fazzari of Washington University in St. Louis, shows that households in the top 5 percent of the income distribution went from spending just over 80 percent of their incomes in 1989 to 88 percent in 2012 (for the rest of households, the consumption-to-income ratio actually declined slightly during those years). Obviously, that consumption spending still flows into the economy, but it is likely to go to less productive use than if it were being directed into investment.

On the corporate side, one explanation for what's going on could be that perverse incentives are leading chief executive officers to give money back to shareholders even when they stand a good chance of earning high returns by investing it internally. There have been many examples over the decades of corporations that turned out to be good at more than one thing, after all. Still, those returns on internal investment are likely to be years off, while activist investors are clamoring for buybacks. Even more important, those buybacks can boost CEO pay right now. In a companion report to Mason's, the Roosevelt Institute recommends buyback limits and CEO pay reforms as a way to counteract this.

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the oligarchs in the US, UK, all of the
"austerity" West, are driving their
countries' workers into a life-shortening
Depression as they buy up as much as
they can as they jockey for Top Dog
positions among themselves.

Most Americans have valued $ over all
other considerations for decades. Now
we get to live through just where such
an American value system has taken
us.

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makes it so tangibly understandable. My first job as a waitress in Germany I barely remember, just that I got upset, because people stole the bread sticks, which were available in a little container on each table, and they didn't tell me that I had to pay for those, if they got stolen by the customers.

My first minimum wage job in the US was as a "runner" in a hospital to dispense and deliver the medication from the hospital pharmacy to the patients' rooms. I was mocked over that job by an African immigrant young girl, who herself had absolutely nothing, but could legally live with us. It was not clear to her that white people also work odd jobs and are not always rich or privileged.

You can't live on your own on a minimum wage job. I learned it watching my son struggling with it. It's easy to destroy people's lives. Enough said.

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