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Good morning everyone.
Is 30 degrees this morning and clear skies. Much frost over everything, including the latent onions and potatoes still growing from summer. Guess I'll have to pull them up and stash in the garage, where we are down to our last couple of onions and a bucket of 'taters we harvested in fall.
This next little harvest may get us to spring and we still have plenty of corn, beans, and peppers in the freezer.
We are slowly learning how to stretch our growing season out and store harvests for longer periods of time without resorting to canning or dehydrating, although we have all the equipment needed for both.
We've done both before with good success, but it is time consuming and the canning eats a lot of energy (boiling).
What we are badly lacking is a proper root cellar.
I can still remember my grandmothers' cellar dug into the side of the hillock her cabin was built on. It was a scary place to go into as a kid as it was filled with spiders and other creepy-crawlers and Grandma always warned us to look out for snakes. But it was filled with mason jars of food and sacks of potatoes and squash and stuff I had no clue what it was.
But she lived there all her life in the heart of Appalachia.
My cousin has owned the property for a few years now, and although the cabin burned down a couple of decades ago, I'm sure that root cellar is still there.
My dad had one at his home he retired to nearby in Branchland, West Virginia, and it too was filled with food. Although it doubled as a smoking room where he would hide from the wife and smoke.
It too was built into the ground with a steep wooden stair going down under a woodshed/toolroom above.
Any way, I'll start doing the research this winter on building a good root cellar at the farm and get er' done.
We've learned how to grow an ample supply of veggies and have plenty of family and friends who love the freshness of them.
We just need to learn how to store them longer and better.
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Do any of you guys have a root cellar?

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of watching the red team's many cheerleaders flashing their boobs and shaking their buns to the beer-sodden masses in the grandstands, we have this jewel:

https://archive.ph/2lPOD

He then delivered the core demand: “And truthfully, until somebody in a position of power, until somebody in a position in Minnesota, elected position, who was in charge of administering this or having some oversight over it, goes to jail, it’s honestly never going to stop.”

Jennings broadened the scope: “Look what’s going on in blue states across the country: 9 billion in Minnesota, 70 billion in fraud in California, cooking the crime stats in Washington, D.C.”

Driving the point home, he asked, “When is someone in a position of power going to go to jail for the rampant fraud?” and added, “You can put all the low-level people in jail you want, but until somebody in charge goes to jail, it won’t stop!”

Really? Wow. You don't say. Those blue team people are something awful, aren't they?

There's some Bible quote involving motes, beams, eyes, and hypocrisy that I've heard from time to time- but somehow I just can't quite put my finger upon it right now...

Meanwhile, on a happier note, we're just eating the last of our homegrown tomatoes for the year. The trick of putting green tomatoes in a single layer in a cardboard box, covering them with paper, and putting them in a cool, dark place to ripen after the first frost, has worked a treat. Never thought I'd be eating tomatoes from my own little container garden at New Years- but I'll be doing that again next year, for sure.

Be safe out there!

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@usefewersyllables Or is that off topic.
All of them are corrupted and owned, on both sides of the aisle.
We desperately need an "Operation Clean Slate".
The tomato trick is a good one. I try to store my potatoes and onions single layer in low cut cardboard boxes I get from the grocery store. Takes a lot of room though, but can be stacked.
There is still too much light in my garage from three windows and seepage around the garage doors. They start growing out of the boxes. By spring, the seed potatoes are a tangled mess that look like hanging gardens.
A really dark root cellar is needed.
Thanks for the post and have a great new year.

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Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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We have an old dry stone wall dirt floor basement
which stays about 50 degrees year around. The challenge
would be to critter-proof it. I suppose screened bins would work
on a shelving unit. Spiders just go wherever they want, but do
not cause much destruction. The snakes hang-out in the old hand dug
well. It's the mice and chipmunks that seem persistent. Our cats were
scared of the space for whatever reason, so wouldn't hunt there. Too many
easy pickins' above ground.

Good luck and thanks for the OT!

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@QMS @QMS
turning into a snake pit? Are they stuck down there, or can they actually slither up the sides?
Ugh, either way.
That basement sounds like the way to go. With a little improvising.
Thanks for the post and have a great new year.

PS. And I know you meant root cellar! Damned AI.

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@earthling1
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at their leisure, much to the spouse's horror.

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@earthling1
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was trying to inject some humor by rifting
on the Russian insistence of addressing the
"root causes" of the Ukie conflict. Seems the west
just doesn't get it?

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@QMS I use to store grain and other dry good edibles where mice and packrats might roam. Metal garbage bins and metal popcorn tins for decades, then added old file cabinets to the mix the past 3 years. A local thrift store started selling cabinets occasionally for $5. Buy ones with solid bottom and steam clean the drawers before using.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

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is apparently by using one of the state propaganda organs to claim a big hit on the so-called enemy. But was there a big hit at all?

Did The CIA Really Strike A Dock In Venezuela?

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@Cassiodorus
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of propaganda at this point.
Still trying in the RUS project,
but not working out so well.

You know things are faltering when the CIA
is leading the charge with the pentagoons
following. The stoopidist military in the world!

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@QMS CIA Claimed to Have Launched Strike on ‘Remote Dock’ on Venezuelan Coast

Venezuelanalysis is a leftist, but not government, Venezuelan news source. But even they can't pin anything down:

Trump elaborated on a Monday press conference, adding that the site was along the Venezuelan shore and that there was a “big explosion in the dock area where they load the boats up with drugs.”

US agencies have not confirmed the attack, with the CIA, the White House and the Pentagon refusing comment. Analysts relying on open source data tracked no signs of an explosion on the Venezuelan coast in recent days.

For its part, Venezuelan authorities have not released any statements on the matter.

So they don't know either.

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"It hasn't been okay to be smart in the United States for centuries" -- Frank Zappa

@Cassiodorus let me be he first to call it BULLSHIT.
Happy New Year, friend!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@Cassiodorus
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broadcast accurate information, which seems more
likely, given the CIA MO. Support the narrative
by not going against against the script. Truth does
not matter for them. Since the collective media is controlled by
TPTB, a story is only as true as they allow it to be.

Trumpet is handed a sheaf of papers to respond to
reporters while holding a presser. A big, beautiful strike
makes him look powerful. Think we know that is not the case.

It is a 'joke' for media consumption.
Probably no more than that.

Mooring a bunch of warships off a foreign coast does not
equate to much more than a make-believe blockade. As the
tankers continue with their business, it makes the US appear weak.
Can't have that. Therefore, contrary headlines.

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@Cassiodorus

https://archive.ph/elgFG

X users are reporting that a mysterious Russian shortwave radio signal, nicknamed "The Buzzer" and informally known as the "doomsday radio station," that has been continuously broadcasting since the late 1970s, has just transmitted the classical piece Swan Lake by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky.

UVB-76 is transmitted on 4625 kHz and is occasionally interrupted by Russian voice messages, often containing names, numbers, or coded phrases. These voice messages are rare, irregular, and often nonsensical, making the transmission of Swan Lake highly abnormal.

Western military analysts associate UVB-76 with Russia's military communications and strategic command infrastructure. It reportedly remains operational as a fail-safe in the event that satellites, fiber, or cellular networks are disrupted.

The broadcasting of Swan Lake, a four-act ballet composed by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky and premiered in 1877 in Moscow, on UVB-76 could be interpreted as a mistake or operator error, a test transmission, accidental audio bleed from equipment at the transmitter site, or even signal hijacking.

Meaningful? Meaningless? Who knows? Your guess is as good as mine. UVB-76 is an enigma.

In any case, it certainly represents an interesting change from the usual diet of buzzes, numbers, and random presumably-encoded words. Worth keeping an eye and/or ear on.

I kinda like Swan Lake. Might have to tune in.

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@usefewersyllables

happy new year

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@enhydra lutris
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who scored which?
Kinda doubt the ballerinas
where listening to the dead.
But it does blend well with Bertha.

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@usefewersyllables
Gonna have to break out shortwave tonight and check it out.
Maybe it's to broadcast surrender instructions to future American survivors.

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@usefewersyllables @usefewersyllables

a couple more decades down the road, to come out in clear on that channel and tell the entire west that's it has all been a massive prank and they hope we enjoyed it as much as they did. Heh. Wink

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

No root cellars here. The water the water table is too high. In places around my acreage, you start digging up mud in 3 ft. We all resort to canning. It is what it is.
Thanks for the OT, my friend!

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@on the cusp
Water table at the Farm is only 15 ft. last time I checked. It could go higher, but will have to check it in springtime when it should be at top level.
Dry, dark, and cool is prime conditions. Plus it should have some air circulation. I will be looking at some kind of simi-above ground, well insulated blockhouse.
Have a great new year.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

@earthling1 the block house, and I wish for you and yours a great new year.

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