DK further reveals their values

I check in at DK from time to time.

It is of course just a DNC site now.

Today it was even worse.

On the rec list is a diary of Michelle Obama giving George W Bush a warm embrace. Of course there was gushing for Michelle and her gorgeous dress. But very alarmingly there was praise for GW. And total seeming amnesia for what his administrations did to this country via 9/11, the wars, then the economy. http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/9/24/1573953/-Our-First-Lady-Michel...

Once again their only focal point in their world view is.... wait for it.... Donald Trump.

BMScott zenbassoon Sep 24 · 07:31:54 PM
And he's a model of humanity and decency compared with the likes of Trump and Cruz. He was a horrible president, but there are far worse human beings.

Trump is a hot mess but to date he has not been responsible for the loss of life of millions nor presided over the largest economic crash since the depression.

GWBush is apparently forgiven by DK denizens (and Michelle?) because he held back in trashing Obama. Bush should be licking Obama's boots for not pursuing prosecution against his and Cheney many crimes. The 1% protecting the 1%. That's what stirs the passions of DK now.

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in my view. As you say, it's the have-too-much cabal recognizing a fellow member. Global capital is a dead end system, with a capital "dead."

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

If the CIA wanted to create a propaganda site, they would use DK as their model.
I said "if". lol!

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No joke. That's the reason he bans CT diaries.

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Ain't no "if" about it. I've been saying for years--whether Kos is or isn't "CIA"--that the site is an experimentation in "groupthink"...

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I believe the majority of new users are paid shills.
The old timers that remain there seem hypnotized.

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Most of us no longer visit there the site is worthless...

Although the traffic has rebounded some from the Ides of March...

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There is strong evidence that the site has almost twice the number of shills usually found on the net...

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I joined just a couple years ago. At the time, it seemed a good place to discuss politics and an array of policy issues. What were you seeing that I was not?

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…actually began in late 2006.

It was a slow transformation in the way that wine ferments. It starts out slowly and continues that way for a long time, and then, bam!, it's a complete colony collapse. (Of the yeasties, that is.)

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There were several purges over the years. 2006 wasn't particularly nasty as far as losing talent went -- it was hard and ugly, I took a break, but I think it was 2008-9 when they really went hard after the Leftists onsite, IIRC.

I lost contact with a lot of great writers at that time.

It was really ugly, and was a line in the sand by the corporate center. A bunch of us hung out and argued hard for a couple years, then 2012 it totally started to unravel.

So if you were post 2012, you don't have the same experience with the site as us low UID peeps.

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Kos was employed by the CIA. No joke. That's the reason he bans CT diaries.

A little too close to home, you say?

Wink

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W is and was a total fucking sociopath, with the death of hundreds of thousands -- possibly millions -- on his cheerfully waving hands.

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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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Just makes ya wanna give him [GW Bush] a hug.

From a 20-foot-long, hungry reticulated python!

(Apologies to honest serpents!)

Diablo

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She planted a garden, made kids responsible for their weight issues, and did little to nothing to go after big ag for the garbage they feed us.

I am turning off/deleting/blocking and otherwise dumping Bill Maher, TYT, Malloy/Hartmann, and without saying, msm TV and radio. I will not be nagged and Naderized over the candidate or my vote. They are entitled to their opinions, but I am sick of the 24/7 demonization of Trump and/or bitching at others to vote for Hillary or "your vote will destroy the world". The arrogance of their entitlement and certainty pisses me off. Maher actually said that at least Gingrich, Pence, and Bush were legitimate, mainstream leaders, while Trump was the life sucking monster from Alien. I am not listening to this bull shit from now until November.

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dumping tv. it took a little while but suddenly i realized that zappa was 100% correct about the slime. i haven't watched television outside a bar in probably 13 years, and i love the look on people's faces when they're like YOU HAVEN'T SEEN GAME OF THRONES?

no, no i haven't. lol. fuck tv.

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The correct comeback is "READ THE FUCKING BOOKS".

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give me some douglas adams, robert anton wilson, albert camus i haven't read. i've had a lot of swords-n-sorcery stuff from dragonlance when i was 15.

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Third or fourth time through the first 4 books, second or third time through Dance With Dragons. These long waits between books are killing me...

But a new Xanth book comes out in OctOgre so I have that to look forward to Smile

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on The Gulag Archipelago 3. i guess it's hard to find, but it's been a great series over the last couple of falls. a frightenig several of books by any means, if you've got a tenner.

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I'm getting pretty sick of the Michelle worship as well.
She planted a garden,

Score one for Michelle. Big woo.

made kids responsible for their weight issues,

English Translation: Re-enabled, yet again, the bitter bullying and harassment of kids who have no athletic talent, as her kids do. Children in modern Amerikkka already have enough problems with the public non-education, teach-to-the-test system; and now, when these kids really don't need yet another burden added to them, here comes the President's wife adding yet another one. As you correctly point out:

and did little to nothing to go after big ag for the garbage they feed us.

So all she ever did for those kids was to increase their burdens while offering them little or nothing in the way of help to carry those burdens. "Physical education" is still nothing else but a means of embarrassment and shame for most of the kids forced to go through it, while some of our best and brightest kids will never be able to use those brains as they should be able to because P.E. is R.I.P. for their G.P.A. Did Madame Obama mount a nationwide campaign for school courses in healthy recreations to replace the competitive sport training that benefits so few at the expense of all the rest of us? She did not.

Like it or not, competitive sport is all about what you are born with, innate talent. Yes, an athlete must then work his/her ass off to develop that talent; but the fact forever remains that the talent itself must be there to develop -- and for most of us, it isn't. Anyone with a real goal of getting a handle on the obesity issue would insist that the vast majority of resources we sink into that be devoted to programs beneficial to the majority of us. And "gym" isn't, never has been, and never will be. American-style P.E. is nothing else than war preparation. Get the kiddies accustomed to useless suffering and humiliation now, so they'll be easier to convert to unresisting cannon fodder later.

And that's before we even get to the garbage that Big Ag insists on feeding those same kids -- an essay in and of its own right.

Grrrr. You got me started. Bomb Diablo Bomb

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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5-1 and 118 lb too. Hopeless at competitive sports, but the coaches taught me refereeing, umpiring, scoring, etc. Great fun, and I loved telling a big guy Yerrrrr outtttt!
He knew that if he gave me much as a raised eyebrow I'd give him the thumb.

Sweet.

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I don't have tv, so I frequent twitter pages to see what's going on and I've found there are very few people who I'll visit anymore. Very discouraging for me.

As far as Maher, he is a strange duck. He thinks he's such a rebel, but really he is very establishment. He is pro war, at least against ISIS, he is pro-drones, and pro the prez having assassination authority. He seems to believe what he reads in mainstream press, and also what the president says.

I do still listen to the audio of his show on podcast. I can't help it. His irreverence does crack me up, and I enjoy some of his guests.

On the latest show he said he loved Autumn. He loved watching Hillary's poll numbers gently falling to the ground. The cops in Charlotte have added pumpkin spice to their tear gas. The governor called out the national guard and extra police to make sure in all the chaos that people are using the correct restrooms. Roughly quoted from memory, but when he said it, it was funny.

So, I listen, even though there is much I don't approve of.

BTW, I love your twitter page, and look at it often.

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At least people are clearly and obviously outing themselves, so we know who to avoid... Maher is funny, though.

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Alien Intervention 2016!

If you can't vote Green, vote Grey!!
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.. I am not listening to this bull shit from now until November.

I don't see how anybody could... I'm going to hate it when the internet goes, guess that's going to be soon, barring an electoral miracle.

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anywhere. It's just going to cost a small fortune to connect. Maybe they'll give us riff raff Day Passes for $15 or so.

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From the slime up.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
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…that creeped me out, big time. ::: shudder :::

The idea that people's bodies were "occupied" by these alien beings who were the epitome of barren sociopathy. Then, they spread it to family and friends....

The thing that is so disturbing to me, as I see it happening in real world in the Neolib-funded Think Tank lab in the Daily Kos incubator, is the profound personality deconstruction on display, as these people contort themselves into the stated opposite of the character and universal morality they once had. It makes my skin crawl.

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village and tore it apart, with some residents scattering, some staying but cowering in fear, and yes, some taken over by the pod people. While a few still try to walk that fine line of acceptance while hugging their pets.

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I mentioned that exact movie, way back when I first came here about DK. It's so much like that too. The pointing and shrill, high-pitched alarm they'd sound in the movie is what I thought of when the possessed, for lack of a better word, or the shills would pile on someone there.

It's also like the Borg with the expectation for Bernie supporters to be assimilated.

Creepy, indeed!

Of course, if Shills drops like a wet bag of cement, I foresee A Weekend at Bernie's.

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and it's also a key component of the current Clinton campaign's spiritual Shock and Awe strategy.
Sending people like John Lewis and Dolores Huerta to lie for her.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

a news event or maybe to get a weather report, and that is only once or twice a year, at most.
The last tv series I watched was "House". I have never watched GOT. I did tour the castle/fortress where it is filmed, and was the only person in the group who didn't get excited about the connection.
The last cable pundit I stopped watching was Chris Hayes, and he lost me over a year ago.
I am sorry TYT has gone Nader Raider.
Fuck them all for trying to scare me.

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I know about climate.

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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and knowing the role the mainstream corporate press has chosen to take in regard to reporting on it, I am even less impressed by any attempts they make to scare me about, well, anything.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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I wanted to see what they had said, if anything, about the Wilding v. DNC motion to dismiss. So I searched for "wilding" and a funny thing happened. It returned a voluminous amount of pages that contain the word "wild." Just a glitch? A coding error? Or was it a software subterfuge?

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There can be only two explanations that I can think of. Either they're trolls, purposely spreading propaganda for the Dem.party, or they're supremely ignorant people totally conditioned by the government/educational/media propaganda system.
Seriously, anyone that has anything to say about Bush other than he should be behind bars because he's a cold blooded murderer, is off in the head.

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Either they're trolls, purposely spreading propaganda for the Dem. party,

We're talking about Daily Kos.

Democratic party propagandists aren't considered trolls there; the proprietor, Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, is cultivating that crop there.

Once upon a time, there was still some hope that the Democratic Party would act as advertised, and be an advocate for the American working class and the 99%. That hope died on Daily Kos once and for all on the 15th of March of this year, when the proprietor demanded that all further attempts to reform the Party via that website cease, and all its resources devoted to the Coronation of Her Heinous Majesty.

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Righteous rant, and spot on!

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

or they're supremely ignorant people totally conditioned by the government/educational/media propaganda system.

You would think that someone who would volunteer for a Tim Kaine rally was really into politics.

I went to protest the TPP. I was shut down. A volunteer asked me what the TPP was... SMH.

They all listen to NPR, read NYT, listen to MSNBC and lap up the corporate schlock.

They do not want their worldview challenged.

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to rec their (ever fewer) essays that are actually about something important. Just takes a minute of scrolling to find them. And to be ready to go back after the discrediting of democracy, er, election to pressure against the Eternal War machine, and the Banker/Corp Borg, both sure to be officially enhanced.

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

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and how they are rationalizing that Bush wasn't all that bad because they are comparing him to Trump. Trump didn't slaughter hundreds of thousands or more people on false pretenses , so there's no way to compare the two men.
Or that he is basically a good man, it was just his policies that stunk or that it was Cheney's, Rove's and other people's faults that made him make those decisions.
Look at how they rationalize Hillary's, Kerry's and Biden's vote for the Iraq war!

That Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and John Kerry backed one of his actions doesn’t remotely mean they are the same as Bush, though I know Hillary Clinton’s critics have tried to claim as such. Bush was not interested in the truth when it came to Iraq. He had an objective—to invade—and he pushed it. He presented selective information to the

Bush wasn't interested in the truth, but these 3 were? He didn't present 'selective information', he lied and most of us knew it, but this person is saying that Bush somehow fooled or tricked them into voting for it? And this person believes that these 3 only voted for the war because they didn't know all of the facts? Hell, Hillary repeated his lies about WMDs, his meeting with Al Quada, but according to the commenter her vote was for a different reason than Bush' was?
Now that is exceptional pretzlelized rational thinking.
One person is trying to push back, but is still giving Hillary a pass on her vote.
Just the fact that they refuse to see that Hillary isn't a warmonger is one thing, but to read all these people defending Bush shows that the people in this diary have lost all sense of credibility.
Unfuckingbelievable!

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Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?

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over the place.

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Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

the parameters of discussion that have been set by Markos. And these parameters define politics strictly as a contest between the two major US Parties. Any other interpretation of, or way of looking at our national and global situation is either discouraged or forbidden.

This results in a generalized pattern of binary thinking to which all community members must subscribe, under penalty of group censure and/or expulsion. According to Kos there is a Team Blue and a Team Red, and never the twain shall meet, since the nature of game is seen to be solely concerned with which Side of the contest will gain the upper hand. There can be no objective analysis or discussion allowed, about the nature and validity of the game itself, as this might tend to weaken the case for Team Blue.

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According to Kos there is a Team Blue and a Team Red, and never the twain shall meet

And none outside the twain, either.

One would last longer outright advocating for Rethug policies, or even the GOP itself, over there, than advocating for a third party. The former is a "venial" class misdemeanor at worst; the latter is an instant banhammer execution offense.

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Can't have small-d democratic thinking or arguments there - it makes the Army of Trolls look even more brainwashed and ignorant than they do without the stark contrast of humanity, sense and sustainability.

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Called what Kos is doing, Topping from the Bottom.

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"Polls don't tell us how well a candidate is doing; Polls tell us how well the media is doing." ~ Me

Did paid and unpaid Hillary shills somehow get directed to dailykos as a key site to overwhelm and infest? If so, they certainly seemed to have the tact approval of management. Later, the front pagers, who I assumed are paid a regular salary got involved with distortions and McCarthyism attacks that defied any standard of intellectual and moral honesty--seemed like fairly coordinated attacks. Even after Hillary usurped the nomination, dailykos posters continued to attack Sander supporters. I figured it was an effort to marginalize Sanders as a leader of any anti-Hillary coalition after the election.

Is it not a surprise that dailykos would embrace Bush if it made Obama, Michelle, Hillary look good in anyway. Nope. All it requires is a diary or two to re-invent anybody, as in the re-invention of Hillary and Kaine into progressives. Now Bush, the friendly dufus.

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I'd love to ask that question there.

Here's a bit of my response to a friend on FB who said he thought it was nice:

I think this is supposed to show forgiveness, community and the shared responsibility for the rights of minorities even though they have political differences.

Political comity... so refreshing.

Except the Obama admin has not tacked away from Bush. We're still droning people. We've allied ourselves with Al Qaeda in the Syrian Civil War. We're selling arms to the State that perpetrated 9-11, Saudi Arabia. The banks still run the place. IIRC, the Bush Tax Cuts are still in place. Most whistleblower prosecutions in history.

The point, to me, is not that there is political comity across the aisle for the benefit of minorities, which is a nice idea. It doesn't strike me as forgiveness because Obama, obviously, agrees with Bush.

It makes me think they really don't give a shit about politics or the ramifications of their actions. It's like Carville being married to Mary Matalin. This lack of conviction makes politics out to be a game or a business.

The same is true of the mass of Republican rats jumping off the SS Sabotage onto Hillary's bandwagon. It is not a political benefit. It makes politics look like a game.

The next comment was this:

I wonder if it would be as nice if she were with Slobodan Milošević...

It definitely harshed his mellow.

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http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1573953/63595608#comment_63595608

"This moron of a president lied to take us into a disastrous war in Iraq and thousands of our soldiers died for his war for oil and profit. Now we give him hugs and act like one big happy family."

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Love is my religion.

Thanks for taking us to your separate comment - being half-asleep, I unthinkingly clicked on the link... I really didn't want to see the excuses. Especially since the personal insults used to prove their pointy little heads would be all-too familiar from them and other right-wing sites.

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That site is so toxic and full of hate and anger. (If I ever post a link to that site again, I will make sure to state it more clearly where it leads to.)

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Love is my religion.

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I got resentful at word parsing necessary to avoid damning. I am still NR there, can't recall what I said in April.
It's so much more pleasant over here, to be "allowed"to discuss beliefs like adults, not high school students. Who are C-students and cheat on tests.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

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to see what they are saying about us here. Enter c99 in the search box, then click comments and search. Always some fun reading there! As much as MargaretPOS writes about us, I'm thinking she spends more time here than at TOP!

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As much as MargaretPOS writes about us, I'm thinking she spends more time here than at TOP!

What a loser he/she must be, to be thought of in print as an Official Tattletale. OMG, how fucking grade school can these people be?

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She's honing for a position on a Nuclear Board or something?

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Typically, having just been (again) unsubscribed from Hillary Clinton emails and having everything sent by her removed from my inbox, today I had something new in there from Hillary Clinton (Wisconsin), promptly unsubscribed from that and from something from Nancy Pelosi - and found some clickbait from DK as well, I suspected in order to bring in, ban and clean out those interested in actual truth and democracy in America still remaining from their rosters and ability to comment.

As could be expected, the promoted-at-top of the DK diary list 'Hillary Flawed' consisted of the announcement that we were all flawed, without mentioning the fact that we all haven't ripped off, mangled the lives of countless people or killed them, while pushing starvation wages, environmental destruction and a global hostile corporate takeover all over the freaking world for our own personal profit and power, en route to installing ourselves, via cheating a propagandizing, as corporate management as a(n ironically) Democratic President.

This during the course of my first coffee... I had to back off, gagging slightly. I do know better than to go there, when I'm awake enough...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Kurt from CMH's picture

Trump is a hot mess but to date he has not been responsible for the loss of life of millions nor presided over the largest economic crash since the depression.

You want him to have a shot at war and economic ruin?

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For at least another hundred years we must pretend to ourselves and to everyone that fair is foul and foul is fair; for foul is useful and fair is not. Avarice and usury and precaution must be our gods for a little longer still.
John Maynard Keynes, 1930

lunachickie's picture

she's had plenty of practice at both:

war and economic ruin

Too bad she's going to lose to Trump. It sucks, but there it is. If Florida is any indicator, she's going to get mightily, embarrassingly trounced.

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That pic of Michele embracing war criminal GWBush has NOTHING to do with Trump.

The fact that Trump was brought in is just laughably reflective of the paucity of thought of DK-ers. EVERYTHING seems to be only relatable to TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP. Your minds are coated in TrumpAversion such that NOTHING else gets in, or out.

DK denizens have total amnesia of the war crimes that GW committed, of his illegal war of aggression that killed millions and destroyed a country. He crashed our economy and seriously hurt millions of Americans.

You guys are infatuated with the 1%. Michele hugging Bush is just what goes on in that world that rules: You ignore my crimes, and I'll ignore yours".

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld should be behind bars and not feted or given respect. There should be no reconciliation until truth and justice have been served. Not holding my breath.

In 2011 a Malaysian tribunal has found former US President George W Bush and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair guilty of committing crimes against humanity during the Iraq war, Press TV reported. Do you think Malaysia did this just to get chummy with the US?

But your Masters appreciate your servile amnesia.

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