Message Fail: Worst Meme Ever?
Submitted by k9disc on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 12:04am
Saw this today on the FB:
Here's my response:
This is potentially the worst political meme ever. Are you guys TRYING to make her lose?
You ever read any George Lakoff or get the skinny on framing? Don't Think of an Elephant?
Arrested, crime, scrutinized, lawyer, $100M, Taxpayer, Wasted money, Investigations... Shit man, Could you attach more negatives to her?
This election and American politics is totally insane.
Oh, and the close of the message, the big text at the bottom says: Not Trustworthy... smh
On a MEME. smh
Seriously. 16,000 shares, 20,000 likes... lol
You go, Democrats.
Comments
Every step of the way, they
Every step of the way, they show gross incompetence right from the candidate down... I second your emotion - you go Democrats!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
As many have noted, Hide-away Hillary is a terrible campaigner
Insult Berners--check, did that
Insult millennials--check, did that
Insult decency--check, did that
Violate promises--check, did that
Endanger national security--check, did that
Start wars--check, did that
Insult millions of voters--check, did that
Concoct so many lies her own staffers can't keep up with them--check, did that
Insult any doubters, even female, as misogynist--check, did that
And I don't think her clever campaign has cashed in all of her brilliant checks.
A bad candidate and an awful campaigner, yes.
But the meme makes it clear... "No jail can hold Her!"
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
"Concoct so many lies her own staffers can't keep up with them"
As a reminder, EVEN HER FAMILY cannot keep up with them.
Later on September 11th, a reporter asked Chelsea about her mother's pneumonia (since her mother had rested there from an event we were told was related to her pneumonia in case any have forgotten), which the first daughter said she did not know her mother had. And I believe it was on the 12th (or 13th?), Bill stumping for resting Hillary referred to his wife as having the flu.
It's a good idea to keep the famn damly in the loop, guys if you want the public to believe the talking points.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
How tight inside the circle does one need to be
to get the real story? At most levels, staffers and personnel are surely told "She has the flu." At what level are they told "We are putting it out there that she has the flu."?
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
Good question.
I think the answer is that even Hillary has probably lost track of all the lies and misinformation she and her surrogates have spewed over the last few months, let alone years. So I guess there isn't any circle to be inside of. I just hope that most voters are looking at all of this and saying to themselves that she is just a pathological liar. No reason to vote for someone like that. I have seen lots of elections but never one so corrupt and incompetent.
-Greed is not a virtue.
-Socialism: the radical idea of sharing.
-Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962
A few more checks?
Refer to someone who by all rights should be charged for war crimes as a close friend and trusted adviser -- Big Fucking Check...
Unnecessarily and willfully risked spreading a potentially fatal illness to babies and seniors for days after diagnosis for own personal gain -- Check
Take Hundreds of millions of dollars from special interests and foreign governments while in a position of public trust and then give them weapons or construction contracts in return -- Check
Our political process is truly broken... {Sigh}
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I don't thin she was likely to contaminate anyone
(even the neighbor girl forced to give her a hug) b/c she very likely does NOT have pneumonia of any kind. Pneumonia does not cause neurological symptoms, and they are not contagious.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Actually, I hear that
Actually, I hear that corruption spreads...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
...And I don't think her
...
Much more than her checks seem unbalanced...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Woo hoo! The dem nominee hasn't been arrested!
Not even charged for any of Her crimes!
What more could anyone ask for?
Translation:
" See, little people, see what I got away with. You're all losers, and you better be really afraid of Trump. He can't get away with the same stuff I do."
Agree, go democrats ( not worth a capital D anymore)
Whoops - except that a small
Whoops - except that a small-d democrat believes in democracy, so the Dems evidently don't qualify for that appellation. Why not just call them something like Republicrats for a closer, more comfortable fit?
(I personally think that she's bragging about her powerful protectors among The Powers That Shouldn't Be - seems to me that she's been buying power and the big bucks through servitude, not to mention betrayal, making her utterly dependent upon the actual Clinton Mafia heads, to which they merely form a currently useful appendage.)
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Oh yeah, one more thing
Republicans didn't convince me she is not trustworthy. She did. By being a relentless liar.
Yep, this has nothing to do with republicans
This is on her and her closest allies, nobody else.
For real
thank you for noting that. It pisses me off when people try to tell me I've let GOP talking points get the better of me. That's nonsense. Clinton has been a demonstrable liar on so many things, from the time she was FLOTUS to now. It got worse when she was a Senator and it's been all downhill from there.
And all of it her own doing.
"she was a lawyer
... yet somehow she's not trustworthy"
lmao.
GIANT ALL-CAPS SIG
No Wall Street bank executives have gone to jail either
Does that mean they are just misunderstood?
Shillary understood
and she told them to cut it out.
AND 9/11!
AND 9/11!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
No, not the republicans
The lying, cheating, war criminal did that all by herself. Well maybe she got some help from her womanizing, lying, cheating, war criminal, husband.
I got a good response to that
Bill Cosby's never been jailed for rape...
he hasn't yet, has he? It'd make my response to the meme look rather silly if he has.
Remember before Bernie dropped out
Hillary made some type of comment about after she becomes the candidate then she will work on bringing the people or party back together again.
In other words, she has to say some bad things about Bernie's supporters and that they are naive to think that Bernie could deliver on what he was campaigning on.
I found what I mean.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/06/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-de...
So she did go nuclear on his ideas and brought out her sycophants like McClaskill who hinted that he was a communist, Chelsea who said that he would destroy the ACA and leave people without any health insurance at all while he was setting up his new insurance plan and a few other people who derided his ideas.
Now after insulting his supporters she thinks that they will come crawling back to her because Trump is so scary.
Being found innocent doesn't mean that a person isn't guilty, it means that the prosecutor wasn't able to make the charges stick or in comey's and Lynch's case, they didn't try.
When Comey said that if anyone had or does in the future what Hillary did by using a private email server they would go to prison, doesn't that mean that Hillary could have been charged for mishandling classified information but he just decided not to bring charges against her? Any 'reasonable' prosecutor could bring charges against her it we will never know because he decided not to charge her and Lynch went with his decision.
Sorry Hillary, your history of being for every military intervention going back to the 80's. See all of the death and destruction she has been for.
The link I had is no longer active. Dang, it showed the military interventions she was in favor of and it was a very long list. I'll try to find another one.
This article is about her hawkishness and there are a lot of other links to great articles with more information if anyone is interested in how callous she is when it comes to making decisions about invasions and sanctions.
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/11/hillary-clintons-war-record-100-for-...
One of the articles writes about how Gaddafi was supporting us on the 'war of terror' but Hillary got Obama to give the okay to destroy Libya anyway. I don't understand why he decided to go with her advice, but he has said that he regrets invading and destroying Libya.
Hillary has never shown any remorse over the countless deaths she has caused either by putting sanctions on countries that end up hurting and killing innocent civilians because she didn't like what the leaders of their countries were doing or invading those countries. If I know that sanctions don't affect the leaders but the civilians then Hillary knows that too but she doesn't care. Why the hell not? Sociopathic personality?
Her votes and support for the wars have killed millions and caused millions more to have to flee their homes and countries.
And I keep reading that she is a great defender of women and children, yet her actions in so many countries shows the opposite. And why do people keep saying that? Sure she helped with the SCHIP program and gave a speech, but what else has she done for women and children?
Welfare reform hurt thousands of them and because of the rules written in the bill people are still suffering from it. Last June thousands of people were kicked out of the food stamps program.
The crime bill did and is still hurting countless poor families because anyone who has a felony record isn't able to get food stamps or public housing assistance.
The bills that you helped get passed when were FLOTUS, the actions that you did when you were the SOS, and especially all of the neoconservatives that you have both on your staff advising you and have endorsed you tells me exactly what I can expect from you if you become president.
My conscience won't allow me to vote for you.
I just can't understand how people can say that she isn't a warmonger unless they are just being willfully blind to her history of not hearing about a military intervention that she hasn't been for.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
I saw that one earlier today too.
Like seriously? Just because you haven't been arrested or charged with anything doesn't mean you aren't guilty. This country is so brainwashed, I fear it may be too late. Jill not Hill!
This shit is bananas.
I Don't Think It's Helping. I Think We All Know It's Wrong.
It's going to sit back in the back of our collective minds, and it will be brought up at the drop of a hat. Drumpf has lot of hats. Great Hats. The Best Hats™, Believe Me.
He's essentially inoculated from her attacks. It's like Nixon's,"I'm Not A Crook." As soon as that happened all you could think is that he's a crook.
It's not like they can reframe either:
Trustworthy Most honest pol failed, laughably, a few weeks ago.
Experience - Brings up her disastrous ME stewardship -- fighting Al Qaeda by funding Al Qaeda and whatnot. ISIS! Oops...
I Will Fight For You! -- more fake than Gore. She's a backroom deal corporate rain maker. Speech!
Not Drumpf, not racist, and the victim of misogyny. That's what is available, and that's what we're going to get. Best public debate that money can buy.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
I Mean She Can't Even Blame Him For Making Hats in China.
She's a messaging disaster. And they can't risk another makeover/reboot.
Lol... we're screwed.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
She Can't...And Yet She Does
I'm not willing to go back to her Twitter feed, but I'm pretty sure she has, in fact, attacked Trump directly about his selling products from China.
It's good to see you Daenerys
How are you and where have you been?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
Hi Snoopydawg!
I've been around. Working a lot. I don't spend a lot of time on c99 because the election is stressing me out and the state of things is so depressing, I just can't spend more than a few minutes on here at a time. I spend a lot of time playing games, watching YouTube and thinking about what delicious things to bake next; it helps to keep my sanity.
How have you been?
This shit is bananas.
Tony "Big Tuna" Accardo
lived til the ripe old age of 86, his claim to fame was never spending a night in a jail cell. For those that don't know who he was, he was the alleged crime boss of Chicago for close to 40yrs. Broke in by Al Capone himself, Al had another nickname for him Joe Batters because he was said to have beat people to death with a baseball bat. So I guess he was a good guy cuz he was never convicted of anything.
And again, FLOTUS is not an elected position
except by accident of marriage. And cynics like me can argue that carpetbagging Senator was based on FLOTUS position, nothing more (still carrying the WH weight and pomp). And SoS was due to a second-ran for POTUS, and was likely demanded and rewarded. And she did not pass the bar exam the first time, went back to Arkansas for that. Quite the cv!
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
At the DNC, Hillary announced that she broke the glass ceiling.
Sure she did. Just like "President" Imelda Marcos, "Governor" Lurleen Wallace and "Governor" Miriam "Ma" Ferguson.
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
Don't forget Maggie!
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js]
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
You're on a roll today. n/t
-Greed is not a virtue.
-Socialism: the radical idea of sharing.
-Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962
Heh. My response to that one?
"She's never been indicted!" is a pretty low fucking bar.
Is this seriously their new battle cry? 'Cause, you know, Trump’s never been indicted, either.
"When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained." - Mark Twain
Trump and Hill do make a
Trump and Hill do make a remarkable pair, don't they? Lol, all that effort and they couldn't find anyone actually scarier than Hillary in the whole freaking country!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
How many Republicans are in these videos?
Sure, Trump lies, too (duh). That is why I voted Sanders in the primary and will vote Stein in the general.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUbH7htwxR0]
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[video:[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftx7soJIaKg]
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMpqImAjel4]
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uT68riwrFI]
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQQfOIaWtmw]
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And, of course, the Inspector General, like Comey, refuted Hillary's comments about her emails.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-email-inspector-ge...
...and then declared her above the law. Not acceptable to me.
So DemExit and Stein.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Remember the two Americas Edwards campaigned on?
IMO, there are more than that. Wahlberg lives in one where you expect a pardon if you ask for one. Hillary lives in the one where you don't even get charged and, just for you, the head of the FBI, a Harvard Law grad, forgets what he learned in law school about criminal intent.
I Demexited this summer, too, for many reasons.
#BallotAccessPlease.
Too many bad decisions and messages to count at this point
Historically, after two terms Americans are wired to want "change" as Axelrod has pointed out so frequently. Hillary's challenge was to define herself as a change candidate in a time of economic weakness and stagnation in a world de-stabilized by terrorism and the rise of the corporate state replacing the nation state.
HRC and Dems thought at first "1st Woman President" would fit the bill and assumed the female vote would put her over the top based on gender alone. That was a fail.
Party Line -"She's so experienced!" is another fail. There are plenty of politicians to prove that tenure in office or number of offices held is no guarantee of competence.
Party Line -"If you don't vote for her, you're an idiot" is the subtext of her entire campaign. Again not a winning message.
Campaign tactic - "If you prefer Bernie Sanders you're a racist, sexist, misogynist" the subtext for the Bernie Bro slams which for some reason didn't bring the Berners in the fold. She doubled down on this error of judgement with the "deplorables" comment.
Campaign rhetoric -"She her own woman" except that she'll put Bill in charge of the economy and be the torchbearer for Obama's legacy and fill her cabinet with the same old retreads and sycophants she has had surrounding her for decades. Other posts will be filled by the job auction in process among Foundation donors.
Campaign Strategy -"Hey! Republicans, I'm just the person for you too!" In attempting to lure Republicans, she de-motivates Democrats who see the same old bi-partisan screwing on the horizon.
Party Line - who cares about transparency, accountability, FOIA, and Congressional oversight, anyway? This is one of the biggest shocks for old-school Dems who mistakenly thought that their party believed in all these things
Public Perception - "I don't hold press conferences because we all know I will be forced to either embellish, deny or contradict my previous misstatements on almost any topic, but in particular emails, servers, and classified information. You'll all just have to satisfied with the seven minutes I allot to some idiot talking head who has agreed to my parameters and/or time limitations in advance." (my interpretation of HRC's actions translated into words)
Party Line -"Trump is worse" might actually feed into the despair and nihilism present in the electorate who would metaphorically like to blow up the entire system. Trump is like turning to laetrile for cancer treatment when all the conventional methods have failed. Or some people are opting out of the system entirely until someone can affirmatively win their vote. Meanwhile Trump and Clinton are neck and neck in a race for the populace to determine who is actually The Greater Evil.
Party Line -"She's inevitable" - the biggest fail of all since it revealed the corruption and complicity of the entire Democratic Party in obtaining its pre-determined goal with or without the assent of its own voters.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
Excellent assessment Phoebe.
Please turn this into an essay!
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
What has she accomplished?
Still haven't heard a journalist with the guts to ask the question:
"Please name 5 of your most important accomplishments in the past 10 years. Please be specific."
Not a resume, not what she did because her husband was elected POTUS. Not what she "tried" to do, and so badly failed, her botching everything about healthcare ( which as an unelected individual, she had no business being in charge of) because she held it so tightly, no one got to influence the project, and she presented it as a fait accompli to Congress: FAIL BIG TIME ( and it was a long time ago) - chortled when Chelsea referred to it as "hillarycare."
This!
I've been trying to impress of late that Trump is the living, breathing embodiment of a None of the Above vote, the physical manifestation of a Fuck You middle finger to establishment politicians who many in both parties (and certainly in the middle) do not feel has their interests in mind.
So yeah, keep playing up all those establishment Republicans who have crossed over to support you. Tout that endorsement by Kissinger and Negroponte and the Waltons and Kochs and wonder why you spent $145 million against Trumps $4 million only to lose your lead and show failing momentum going into the final stretch.
Epic fail doesn't begin to describe it.
"Polls don't tell us how well a candidate is doing; Polls tell us how well the media is doing." ~ Me
Agreed. A "supportive" meme that points out all her flaws.
I went to FB to see if I could also leave a message, but it's not in my feed. I guess I don't know all the "right" people like you do! Maybe this isn't even from her camp, maybe someone is trolling her? Subtly clever if so.
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If they're trolling ...
Then several of my FB contacts are falling for it. LOL.
I just sit back and laugh.
Apparently all the good campaign staff
have deserted the cause.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Like the 2012 Wisconsin recall election...
Where the "brilliant" DPW (Democratic Party of Wisconsin) put up a series of billboards featuring the head of Scott Walker and one or two of his positions/claims. The DPW was reinforcing Walker's message. It was such a dumb move that Lakoff, during lectures & presentations, uses it as his prime example of how to lose.
Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.
Here's another big meme fail...
Circulated by Clinton supporters after they claimed a Bernie supporter called Hillary a bad name.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
It's honest!
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Great Slogan
I Am Not A Crook - Vote Hillary!
"Polls don't tell us how well a candidate is doing; Polls tell us how well the media is doing." ~ Me
Dear Thumb - gotta love how
Dear Thumb - gotta love how you always give the perfect finger to The Right People!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Could be either Thumbs down or third finger salute, too.
Or...
Thumbing my nose at.
"Polls don't tell us how well a candidate is doing; Polls tell us how well the media is doing." ~ Me
Why is it the Nixonian references are always most apt? n/t
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Because "she is not a crook!"