U.S. Special Forces in Syria flee for lives from our allies
In an example of just how messed up our War on Some Terror strategy has become, our ability to tell friend from foe has become pretty much impossible.
US special forces soldiers were reportedly forced to flee a town in northern Syria after Free Syrian Army fighters threatened to "slaughter" them for their "invasion", according to videos and reports posted on social media on Friday.
The US soldiers were working with Turkish forces as they advanced on al-Rai, Aleppo, in preparation for an offensive against nearby al-Bab, which is controlled by the Islamic State group.
The FSA is allied with Turkish forces and ostensibly supported by the US as a "moderate" rebel group fighting against the government of Bashar al-Assad.
However, Friday's confrontation highlights the complex nature of the war in Syria.
In the video, fighters from the FSA chant that US forces are "pigs", "crusaders" and "infidels".
"Dogs, agents of America," one man can be heard to say in Arabic, while others chant "They are crusaders and infidels", "Down with America", "'Get out you pigs" and "They are coming to Syria to occupy it"...
One US official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters that initial reports appeared to confirm the incident.
Pigs, crusaders, and infidels. Maybe it's a catchy tune in Syria, like Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves.
Let's pause and consider for a moment that these are our allies, working directly alongside our NATO ally Turkey and supposedly are "moderates".
The real kicker is that the Turkish/FSA Operation Euphrates Shield isn't so much aimed at ISIS as it is the SDF, our Syrian Kurdish allies.
The operation, labeled Euphrates Shield, is also aimed at pushing back U.S.-allied Kurdish forces. The fighting pits a NATO ally against a U.S.-backed proxy that is the most effective ground force battling IS in Syria....
Turkey is part of the U.S.-led coalition fighting IS, but the airstrikes that began Saturday marked the first time it has targeted Kurdish-led forces in Syria.
Therefore there is a real, distinct possibility that U.S. forces could be on both sides of this war in the near future.
Another thing to keep in mind is that our "moderate" allies in the FSA were drawn directly from Idlib province, which is controlled by Fateh al-Sham (i.e. al-Qaeda) and its allies.
Well, there is a conditional cease-fire in Syria right now. That condition is that these "moderates" cut their ties with al-Qaeda.
This new truce, while again excluding Nusra, is supposed to be different, with the US demanding all of its rebel allies to totally cut ties with Nusra immediately. Sources within the Syrian military, however, say that so far there is no sign of that happening.
To be fair, these aren't the only allies threatening to shoot us. The Iraqi Shia militias want us to leave too.
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Show me something that this administration HASN'T screwed up.
Intentionally or otherwise.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
well, I would have to say...
the bank bailouts were a master piece, no? Not a single CEO went to jail for the obvious fraud they committed, not to mention the bonuses ta boot! (snark)
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You know, you're absolutely 100% on target,
From the time he jumped off the campaign trail to support the bailout (OOOOH I was angry) to ensuring that Jamie and Lloyd still got their bonuses, he did everything possible to make certain that the transfer of wealth from the lower/middle/upper middle classes to the 1% came off without a hitch.
I really cannot stand the sight of the man or the sound of his voice. How lucky was he that the Pritzker family saw his amazing potential for lies and dissembling.
This is a bizarre thing I've had two of my son's friends, one black, one black/Hispanic BOTH tell me that because of Obama, a black man will never get elected to the White House again. They said he's done nothing for black people or anyone who wasn't rich. Well actually, Nick practically had a list but I was so stunned that he would say that the only other thing I can remember is that there is anger over his refusal to decriminalize pot.
These guys are in their early 20s. I wonder if this is true?
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
I've got tons of
book marks, all lead to one thing, the case for impeachment. But that's a non-starter, heck Pelosi had a perfect opportunity, and cover (bailouts) to go after GWB and his blatant violations of our constitution, which by my untrained calculations, amount to crimes against humanity for launching an illegal war in Iraq.
Obama was like, hey, why look back, when we can skirt this under the rug right quick, and I'll get to do more damage (Kill list Tuesdays) and be assured I won't get prosecuted either.
Obama's like...
RR
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We're seeing the lawful outcome
of policy pursued by 'crackpot realists'; moral imbeciles like Kissenger, Kagen, neocons and neolibs alike.
The phrase was coined about 60 years ago by C. Wright Mills, who stated:
"For the first time in American history, men in authority are talking about an 'emergency' without a foreseeable end,...Such men as these are crackpot realists: in the name of realism they have constructed a paranoid reality all their own."
This madness was a-borning then, it's fully grown today, and nobody in politics or media even mentions it, with very rare exceptions.
Pity policy in there hands of paranoid crackpots and you get regards were have in Syria and the world over.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
S/b 'put policy'
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
I regret that the Special Forces group didn't have a...
cameraman with them to record what happened. Then we should make a documentary of it and require everyone who's about to join the military to watch it. Sure, a few would dig the adrenaline rush, but I'd hope many would say, "No, thanks. Looks way too complicated for me."
Our foreign/military policy has reached a point where it's become a parody of an already bloody historical past.
Becoming a parody?
You mean like this one?
I have posted this same clip on occasion
It was funny back in 1971 (when I was in college ROTC). Now, not so much.
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
Wait A Bit
Wikileaks or Anonymous just might run across some GoPro or phone cam videos these "Special" Forces will take of their "victories" to demonstrate what manly men they are.
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we're so exceptional...
they love us everywhere we go.
Well except for Iraq as linked to in the essay
I'm sure that ISIL is quaking in their boots at the thought of the US degrading them. What does that even mean?
Making them form a naked human pyramid
and siccing dogs on them?
wow, thanks
So Obama decided to use American troops as mercenaries
for the oil companies after all.
Has Obama ever stood up to anyone during his almost 8 years in office?
The GOP and the MICC treat him like their puppet.
Joe provided this link in last nights EBs and hopefully people read it. It is written by RFK Jr and describes what the Syrian conflict is about, who is going to profit from it and the reason that Assad must go.
He also details how the CIA has overthrown so many governments and installed brutal dictators who can do whatever they like as long as they do the US' bidding. But once they slip up, bye bye dictator and off to The Hague with you.
http://www.politico.eu/article/why-the-arabs-dont-want-us-in-syria-midea...
He Stood Up to the "Retarded" Professional Left. nt
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
Let Russia have the Middle East.
Let them become Israel's bitch. Let them waste money, equipment and manpower in the anal wart of the world. Let them become the target of Islamic extremists.
$38 Billion recently promised to Israel.
I don't think Russia wants to match that.
I can think of some water systems; school districts; bridges; lowered tuition; action against climate change, etc where $8 Billion would be better spent.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
Russia Smarter Than USA
The US didn't learn the lesson of Vietnam unlike the Russians who did learn from the quagmire of Afghanistan. The Russian tenure in Afghanistan is already much shorter than the duration the US continues to extend to "occupy" that sorry excuse for a nation.
Want to know why Uncle Scam can't leave AFghanistan?
http://reliefweb.int/report/afghanistan/un-chief-says-discovery-vast-min...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-pentagon-s-map-of-afghanistan-an-eldora...
https://www.newsecuritybeat.org/2012/07/new-usgs-report-and-maps-highlig...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?_r=0
'Nuff Said?
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Strip mining Afghanistan.
Not gonna lie, it's probably the way to make the place useful, and it would probably be an improvement of the place. Middle East: exploit or ignore. I prefer the latter since it's probably cheaper, less labor-intensive, pisses off fewer Islamic radicals, and just better for everyone else, but I'm just saying that if the place were strip mined, nothing of value would be lost.
Heard About The Chinese Mine?
China is mining copper there
Guess whose troops are defending operations there from the Taliban. You pay for them.
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Wow, China sucks, but I'm not very surprised.
This seems to be China's MO—they're exploiting foreign countries for their natural resources, big time in Africa, and African countries are okay w/ this b/c at least it's not Europe that's exploiting them.
Not okay with American Forces being used for guarding China's extraction concerns there. It would be best if we pulled out and let China bring their own goddamn army in there.
And don't forget the opium that funds the CIA's black ops
Before the US invaded Afghanistan , the Taliban had almost wiped out the poppy fields.
Now they are bigger than ever and the troops are defending them.
This article shows pictures of the troops guarding the fields and getting the opium ready to ship.
At the end of this article, an oil CEO is testifying before congress and telling them what needs to be done to make it safe so that he can get his company working in Afghanistan. Here is proof that congress take its orders from the businesses who own our government.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/dyinginafghanistan.php
A US soldier guarding the poppy fields.
Same script, different region
this is a well, tried and true true strategy of the US Foreign policy.
From NYT:
You see, there's a pattern here if you look closely. William Bloom does a fine job (imho) in his work, Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since WWII, chronicling intervention, after intervention, and even providing this golden nugget of info about 13,000 American troops fighting the Russians during the Bolshevik revolution in the introduction,
Snip
A tried and true geopolitical strategy. It's a 3 step process of Problem, Reaction, Solution.
From StormCloudsGathering.com:
[video:https://youtu.be/oMjXbuj7BPI align:center]
With US foreign Policy, it's either cluster bombs, like Saudi Arabia is doing with US made cluster bombs in Yemen...
From
ABCNews.Com:
Or it's cluster fuck, like the entire ME region (Ukraine, China...), and to a larger extent, the world, is today.
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Remarkable comment, RR. Thanks for the links too
I don't know what it is going to take to get the American people to quit believing that the US goes around the world spreading peace and democracy or that it's policing the world.
It has been interfering in countries in the Middle East for over a century or longer.
Here's another excellent article about the CIA's history in the Middle East and how it has been instrumental in overthrowing governments and installing the dictators you wrote about.
http://www.politico.eu/article/why-the-arabs-dont-want-us-in-syria-midea...
Truman had told the CIA not to take part in overthrowing Iran's government, but Eisenhower let them off the leash and they helped install the Shah to f Iran in 1953 until the Iranians finally overthrew him in 1979.
And the CIA has been interfering in the Middle East since then.
The Arab Springs weren't people all of a sudden deciding to remove their government, the CIA helped them along.
Of course if this country is attacked again, people will ask why?
Just like they did when Paris and Brussels were attacked. Even after the people who committed the attacks told them that it was because of the attacks that had killed innocent civilians.
this, for some reason
just does not sink in
It's almost like we can't, or just plan refuse, to acknowledge reality. When one goes around the world bombing the shit out of people, they will get pissed and sooner or later will bomb your back. (Blowback)
We should have learned that lesson years ago, but I reckon there's not much profit in it. Who would our arms manufacturers sell all their weapons too?
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Looking forward, I think Hillary wants to invade Syria
So will she align with Turkey, and screw over the Kurds. Or align with the Kurds and screw over Turkey. Invading Syria will give her some excuse to say Iranian troops and Hezbollah are shooting American soldiers, and thus she is compelled to bomb Iran and parts of Lebanon. Not sure what Russians will do--maybe leave and just watch Hillary send troops to fight in Syira, Iraq, and Iran. Maybe send in troops to Ukraine also. I go by what Gates said about bombing Libay to Hillary to the effect of "let's finish one war before starting another". She has no judgement, nor restraint.
"She Lost Turkey!"
Erdoğan wants to convert Turkey to an Islamic "Republic" which follows Sharia Law.
And the GOP thought Benghazi was big. Wait until all Christians, foeign and domestic, are openly persecuted in Turkey. It would make any Syrian investigation pale in comparison. And if these Islamists manage to steal a US nuke from Incirlik?
Oh, the Humanity!
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